i just played this build in spvp. i wish there is some function that i can see other people’s builds in game if i click their names. people in tournament are too strong.
i want to see replay that i played in spvp. because i saw some team that seems impossible to win. i couldnt deal damage to some ranger. he never took damage even if i attacked him many times. and he interrupted me and killed me very quickly. and they ran very fast. they just took all the points. and the final team score was 591. this is just ridiculous. how is it even possible? and i want to see their build. there must be some function that i can see gears and builds of other people if i click their names.
Forced Crit + Bonus Damage + Bonus Crit Damage adds up to a lot when you glass cannon a thief.
Is it crazy damage? Yes. But a thief built for that melts like butter. It’s not too much so much as it’s a crapshot by the thief.
Thieves built like this are starting to get stomped hard in PvP. Occasionally, they catch you off guard, but beyond that they’re starting to hurt their team above more team-centric Thief Builds.
they use stealth most of times. and run very fast. he runs away and come back to me and he uses skills again. stealth+high damage. isnt it cheat?
once test with golem in spvp. you will see flesh wurm is strongest and Shadow Fiend second strongest if you don’t use any other skills. bone fiend doesn’t do 500 damage x2. he repeats this cycle. 500 damage x2 – 150 damage x2 – 150 damage x2 – 150 damage x2 – 500 damage x2….
Well if you’re looking for feedback you should link the actual build rather then say its on a website. Sure stacks a good number of vulnerabilities. It’s also hard to judge how well it works when you are attacking npc’s. Have any spvp footage?
it is very laggy when i record game with fraps. i can’t do very well in spvp. sometimese i t takes 3~5 second to use skill. so i didnt make many videos. but i kill anyone easily now than the past. i will make a video on it soon.. http://en.gw2codex.com/build/18763-minion-melee-dmg-burst-necro-1-3
it is the build.
i have 80 mesmer. daze/stun(mantra daze and signet stun). i didn’t complain a thing when i play mesmer in pve, wvw, spvp. i thought this game is very balanced without many bugs.(but some traits didnt work at all). and i was very strong. i could kill anyone in spvp. i did 2 secs daze 3 times and stun 1 time. people couldnt even deal enough damage to me. and i got bored because my mesmer build was too simple but i didn’t want to try other build because i played mesmer in wvw, pve, pvp everywhere. so i made necromancer. i complained too much in forum and game. even people kicked me for being necromancer before playing tournament.
it is my normal damage burst build. have you ever tried it? what do you think about my build? i use spinal shivers and dark pact – well of suffering. i kill anyone very quickly in spvp.
I play necro, and I haven’t had people tell me off for it. Quite the opposite actually, if I pick up something else, I’m usually asked to play necro.
In my opinion, you’re being kicked for the way you play necro, not the class. Your build is…wrong. Lol. Alright well it’s not wrong (people will hound me and say there is no right or wrong way to play a class, even though for necro there is due to its complete limited gamestyle right now), but it’s not the most effective. If I had you on my team, I too would ask you to switch to something else. No offence.
they say necromancer sucks before even playing it. why is my build wrong?
there must be more stronger sparring npc or special sparring npc in spvp zone. i really don’t think it is too hard to make more strong sparring npc. please make more. they just die in 10 seconds.
all my necromancer builds are too hard to be viable in spvp.
but thief stealth seems cheat skill.
backstab 1 hit 11k damage.
and steal 1 hit 4.5k damage.
Pray.9751
most people play with their friends. there are only few people in spvp zone. i can’t find tournament group anymore. i didn’t buy this game to be insulted for being necromancer.
i have screenshots that people kick me for being necromancer. everyone just forces me to play mesmer in spvp. and everyone in voice chat said necromancer sucks and conditions are useless in spvp. even they said i am selfish for being necromancer.
i knew it. over time, people will start complaining about necromancer as compare to mesmer. it is not only moa. most mesmer skills are instant. and those hit multiple targets. and many skills are 2 seconds duration and you can interrupt foes many times instantly.
i expected this necromancer will be as good as diablo 2 necromancer. but no skeletons and zombies. and he steals life like coward vampire… i am playing necromancer because i like necromancer but i dont like those skills.
WildmanUK.8531
there is no necromancer skill that you can interrupt many targets. and fear is only 1 second. but mesmer has even instant stun skill. and even there is a trait that causes stun when you daze foes. just try both classes. you dont need to read those threads. who says mesmer are good for single target? even there is a trait you can use shatter skills twice instantly.
i think if they make a trait increasing channel skills duration by 50 or 100%, it will make necromancer more viable.(axe build, siphoning life build, life transfer build etc.). especially axe skills damage are very weak in pvp. i saw people laugh or type “zzzz”(sleeping?) many times when i use necromancer weapon skills.
once play mesmer. you can cause 2 seconds daze 3 times instantly. and imbued diversion traits “daze multiple targets”. there should be cause fear multiple targets or cause fear longer than 3 seconds.
i said “very long conditions are useless in PvP because most people do 10~20k damage in seconds. and they can remove conditions easily. there must be trait that reduces condition duration or make necromancer skills be cast instantly” in this forum. but people called me troll. it is true necromancer is playable and not too weak. but also it is true those traits like 0.5 second longer fear duration are useless. i am talking about useless traits not your strong necromancer. everyone can be strong and top score even if this class has many bugs than other class. but we can’t stop complaining about those bugs and useless traits. most things i said are almost same like what op said.
the description about necromancer in this gw2 homepage doesn’t say necromancer is weak with bunch of long duration conditions. most people never think necromancer is weak with bunch of long duration conditions before they buy gw2. and when you create a character, the descriptions never tell you “necromancer has weak damage than other classes”. if you say necromancer is for the people who like “hard to play and long duration conditions”, the description must say “this class has weak damages than other class with longest condition duration and it is hard to play than other class”. and what do you feel when you read it? do you even want to play this class?
http://i45.tinypic.com/smqff5.jpg
it is the picture what people think about necromancer. when i said i want to play necromancer, he said “get off necro”. and they said “mesmer is very good in pvp. get off necro unless you are a hardcore pro gamer” in voice chat
when you see it in game, you will be very frustrated as a necromancer. anyways it happened to me. i really don’t think it is caused by rune of nightmare. it was 5 seconds fear.
did you see mesmer Diversion with Imbued Diversion trait? mesmer is best CC class. necromancer doesn’t have as many CC skills and traits as mesmer. necromancer does many damage but those are the longest duration. necromancer is the class about condition damages and life steal than CC. and i tried blind+chill build. but it was very weak. not viable in pvp. i died too much while i try to blind and chill. and people don’t even care blind and chill. blind and chill are not stronger than interrupt skills.
once be interrupted when you use life transfer in 0.5 second before you deal damage. it goes 40 seconds full recharge. and you become a sandbag. only doom is instant but single target with 1 second shortest duration(plus 0.5 second with trait.). it should not go full recharge unless i channel 50% or 30%.
i was playing in pvp. and someone caused fear on me for about 5 seconds. i remember i couldn’t move for a while. i couldn’t take a screenshot. but i am sure there was no necromancer. it was 4 seconds fear. but i saw it after 1 second. so it is about 5 second. but necromancer can cause fear for only 1 + 0.5 seconds. isn’t this very unfair? and i see gw2wiki. other classes cause fear for over 2 seconds. thief stolen skill causes fear for 3 second. but there were not many enemies around me. and the closest one was thief. i felt very unfair in this fight.
i hope they make different looking gears not overpowered gears. personally i really don’t like grinding. i never played a grinding game in my life. and i will never playing grind and farming game like diablo 3 and WoW and other cheap poor graphics online games. it makes me just give up the game. i never waste my life on a game. i play various high graphics games and watch movie or TV and study for myself etc. this game is short. but this game has many freedoms and high graphics than other online games. and leveling in pvp is very slower than leveling in pve and wvw. if you like slow leveling, do pvp.
some traits don’t work. you must be careful about them. and if you go supportive/healing style necromancer, you will be very weak. i think some heal traits bugged. it does increase only life siphon and downed skill. the only build i can think up about supportive necro is that life transfer+plague signet+signet of undeath+well of power+well of blood build. if you go to this site, you will see traits. http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/List_of_necromancer_traits
but once i want to try it in PvE. because current necromancer is so weak with too many bugs.
plague signet, signet of undeath, life transfer, well of blood, well of power are the only support skills.
fortunately, you can select all of them. http://en.gw2codex.com/build/18468-supportive-necromancer
i made a build. tell me your opinion about this build.
Vampiric Rituals is very low and slow. not worthy. and Bloodthirst doesn’t work on well with vempiric rituals. and other people said it doesn’t work. and i don’t know they are going to fix this bug or not.
i felt 1~40 is the hardest part of this game. and 40~80 is easiest. i have 80 mesmer. i feel more easier than when i was low level. everything is just easy. because i am very strong and i know every dungeons traps or secrets with exotic gears. and i got bored at mesmer and made a necromancer.
i can’t move often when i play necromancer. and i am killed by warrior or thief. it is so stressful. i never seen it when i play mesmer.
once watch this video. i can’t move. and you can see my character becomes very big in this video. i never seen that i become very big for 260 hours in gw2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zb77vhTY7f0
many latest games have voice channel in game. and i can hear people’s talking while fighting in PvP even if i have no mic. it is too inconvenient that i must use 5 programs(skype, ventrilo, raidcall, teamspeak, mumble) to hear other people’s talking. but if i join their voice chat, there are always only few people. and they go to play world vs world or dungeon often or play other game. those programs are just useless if don’t have real life friends. but i don’t have real life. the game is so silent and lame. i don’t feel i am playing an online game. i feel like i am playing with bunch of random trolls.
http://en.gw2codex.com/build/18459-slowing-foes-necromancer
i think it is most easy and viable build. i have many cripple, immobilize skills than any class. and it worked in pvp. i killed many foes who do hit and run. they come alone. and do damage. and they try to run. and if i cripple or immobilize him, everyone kills him. LOL.
Mindx.9610
there are only 15 pages. and most people don’t even see this forum. they complain in real life or other forum. and they just quitted this game in a month. and tell everyone gw2 is lame. they don’t even say their opinion here. and most live streams are diablo 3 or borderlands 2 than gw2. you don’t need to insult me. if you have something to say about necromancer, just post a thread here. i see only few people post thread in this forum. i saw too many more threads than here when i play closed beta archeage.
and someone may replay “this skill is so weak and not useful” like me
i really hate ground targeting skills. 1 or 2 is enough. when i play mesmer, i used only 1 or 2 ground targeting skills. especially chaos storm. there must be a trait that i can change ground targeting skills to single target skills for the everyone who hates ground targeting skills. it will make more various viable nercomancer builds. i am very stressed whenever i fight against fast running enemies. but the staff has the bleeding skill. i must use staff for bleed. i really hate it. you developers must remove bunch of useless traits. and make a trait that i can change ground targeting skills to single targeting skills. and also make a trait that i can use most skills instantly. almost every skills are not instant. i am very stressed whenever i use a skill. i like necromancer but i hate ground targeting skills and the skills that are not instant. it is very inconvenient for me. i don’t care damage is reduced by 20% or 50% because my skills are instant. i just hate ground targeting skills. 1 or 2 is enough. it is crazy every skills are ground targeting. also there are two ground targeting skills in scepter+dagger. this is madness of ground targeting.
Must i be a ground targeting maniac to play a necromancer? and i want to summon many things as necromancer. it is more easier and simple and stronger than those current necromancer skills. those weapon skills must be summoning skills like mesmer phantasm skills. it is not necromancer. it is ground targeting maniac. he just uses many radius skills not summoning things. there are only 5 summoning skills. but i really don’t like those 5 minions. those 5 minions can’t be the main damage dealer. and it is only 5 and one is healer and another one is too small and weak and another one is just too weak with just blind. weapons skills should be as strong summoning skills as mesmer.
i will change my bleed build to other build because of those ground targeting skills. it is annoying and lame. 4 skills are just same ground targeting skills. it is lame. it is not creative and it is not various. single target or no target. the skill will be cast on the position of my character instantly.
Guy says epidemic sucks and signet of spite is good…
i killed many people with signet of spite than epidemic. because it has cripple and a lot of condition damage. i never think everything i experienced in game is fake. people who use epidemic were not strong like your theory.
Sjach Darasv.3729
ok. you are strong with with epidemic. but i am weak with epidemic. even if it has short recharge and it attacks many people, it is weak. once play PVP. i saw epidemic only 1~2 times in PVE and PVP for 260 hours.
