Guild Wars 2

Friend, Vabbi is a magnificent, friendly, cozy and memeful server where the largest collaboration of players have amalgamated.

You will make friends, you will find personalities you clash with and so on.

jk vabbi players are mean rude and we’re stacked dont come here get out reeeeeeeeeeee

CrimsonNeonite.1048:

yanoch.7051:

I really do miss the old BL

Honestly, the map was pretty bland overall and gave an advantage to map hopping k-trainers (with Golems at spawn) usually, it was good for smaller groups too, but the whole upgrade system since HoT, totally ruins that side of WvW.

If only they could just make the map bigger and use up space better, rather than add verticality.

“pretty bland”

compared to what? The current clown fiesta?

Old map was perfect, dont fool yourself

Never had as much fun as then
This game was so so so so so good
all the friends i made, all the people i played with
And Grotesk being possibly one of the greatest leaders i’ve ever played with.

kitten . No other game will give me this ever ^^

More like “Coalescence OF RUINED GW2 DELETE THIS”

This proves my point that nobody likes aussies.

move on mates

there are lonely sheep

Team Deathmatch Alliance when

rdb.9258:

Thanks for a great example of your “every opinion but mine is invalid and everyone who doesn’t agree is stupid” attitude.
If you can’t respect the opinion of someone of whom you think is a noname: This “dude with 0 knowledge” plays WvW almost since release, has 240k kills and played ~1,5 years in one of the most hardcore EU WvW/GvG guilds.

I played at least as much in EU kitten as you did, so I know exactly what I’m talking about. I made 700 kills this reset, 800 the reset before in t4/t3. There was pretty good action during prime time the whole last week. I constantly see players coming back to WvW from PvE over the last two weeks. WvW being dead might be your personal opinion and point of view and even if many posts on a forum might agree with you, it is not the opinion that everyone has.

Matchups with Augury Rock always had a lack of action on some day. There won’t be 1000 people per server appear out of nowhere if you bring back some old maps, that we already played for three years.
Stop dreaming of the “good old days” and don’t wait for miracles.

No?

The amount of activity pre-HoT in WvW was not nearly as empty to what it currently is.
Meanwhile servers are flagged as full for no apparent reason whatsoever, only according to their “calculations”.

Stop being an Anet apologist when you know they give absolutely no attention to the gamemode, contrary to what was stated before. Have you seen any dev responses on this forum? Have you seen the same amount of healthy activity on borders in and out of primetime? No you obviously haven’t. You said that you played on Prime and got 700-800 kills. How many of those were the same players? I’d put money on it being the same people entire night, because they knew that if they went to another border they’d be met with lag and PvE.

Also the design of the new map is completely alien. Previously taking towers had tactical advantages, because you could pressure major objectives from them.

Auto-upgrade just encourages people to leave the objectives and log off. Knowing they’d be upgraded anyway. The entirety of the map was casualised.

Face it.

It’s a minigame to them. And the only reason to play Gw2 for us.

#GHsoShinyIcantSeeyourredrings

Why do we bother coming to this cesspool of a forum. It’s not like anybody ever listens to reasonable queries.

Hammerguard.9834:

Get over it.

/thread

It’s ok to finally be hyped about HoT now?

R-r-r-right guys?

You can let other people into your own GH right?

Create both a EU/NA GvG Guild with all of the active population of GvG’ers in it.

Together all 500 (max) of them go do the kitten as fast as possible together to fund a Arena for that region. While your own little 30-roster does your own hall at a slower pace.

Pretty sure we can pull it off?

yeah no

people will approach it as a karma train until they find enemies

rip pug raiding

A e t h e r b l a d e J P gave me cancer.

Undergoing chemo as we speak.

TorsoReaper.8530:

Dr Patrik.3642:

As for the might stacking I think DD elementalist has to many blast finisher making it very easy to get 25 might.

LOL what kind of scrub team is letting you just sit there and stack might?

Well how do you stop them from blasting might? Do you kill them?

Oh wait, you can’t kill them because they outsustain everything.

You’ll probably even die in the process

Junkpile.7439:

Thank god we won’t get any f2p players. We actually might get in map during prime time after HoT launch. Treb cows will fly 24/7. Meh i probably just raid and decorate guild hall.

What do you mean get in map

F2p players can get into EoTM easy. Only need lvl 60!

Stop implying you play REAL WvW when you only karma train in EoTM

MokoToko.6890:

Like literally the night and day comparison between the two arguments is “Am I good enough to fight people as a single person and can I understand the importance of a balanced fight in a dying gamemode”. I’m sorry PPTers, except I’m not, but your game mode was boring 2 years ago. If you’re still getting worked up over SMC getting capped by the enemy then you need to go back to special ed.

kek
+1
/15chars

Conditions are easy.

Why?

Don’t need 2 offensive stats to make it super powerful.

Eg. Dire.

Power requires precision and ferocity to hit hard, while condi dmg requires 1 stat only.

Literally 0 skill required to play condition based builds, because you get 2 free stat choices which you can use to make yourself harder to kill or tick even more.

The way the game is turning it seems like PvP is getting super boring.

No power builds because power cannot do anything vs condi unless they spec for condition removals.

Literally snoozefest.

S E P A R A T E P V E BALANCE FROM P V P B A L A N C E

Tyler Bearce.3427:

A few points on anti-griefing measures for guild claiming:

• Guilds without Guild Halls will not be able to claim objectives.

AHAHHAAHAHAHAAH

Why don’t you just say “If you don’t buy HoT we’ll remove most if not all of your advantages making Gw2 WvW semi-P2W”

kittening disgusting

d i s g u s t i n g

dancingmonkey.4902:

funassistant.6589:

ArchonWing.9480:

funassistant.6589:

Zephyra.4709:

This thread is utterly appalling, in a hilarious way.

WvW vets prior to F2P: “EOTM is just a k-train and isn’t real big boy WvW, it’s a joke.”
WvW vets after F2P introduced: “Restrict F2P accounts to EOTM so they can get a feel for what WvW is like and entice them to buy the game, else we’ll get more trolls in WvW.”

How toxic, misleading, vile and wrong. What a bunch of salty children these people are; laughing off how EOTM is basically PvE with little pvp interaction (which it mostly is, given the k-trains) and yet wanting to dump fresh blood into the game by restricting them THERE stating it’ll entice players to buy the full game.

Yes, dump all the would-be new guildies, players, server buddies, friends etc into a joke of a game mode.

This community. Seriously.

/thread?

Considering there’s not a single argument that isn’t tainted by a logical fallacy in this entire block of text I quoted (yea, let’s generalize the whole community into one thread), a one word seal of approval doesn’t really help much. Though I guess the initial block at least tried to have a thought. Thanks for sharing and better luck next time.

But he’s 100% right though. Any player who actually plays WvW and not just afk’s in Home garri posting on this forum has the same opinion.

You lost all of your credibility as far as I am concerned, the second you dishonestly claimed to not only speak for others, but stretched it, to claim you speak for any player.

When you have to be disingenuous to make it appear your opinion has more value, you clearly do not believe your argument is strong enough to stand on its own.

You speak for yourself. You certainly do not speak for me.

Implying you don’t AFK more in Citadel and typing out posts than actually being active in WvW. Please remove that title from your name. It’s entirely misleading. You know absolutely NOTHING of WvW.

Back on topic.

Why should f2p users be limited to the worst rendition of our preferred game mode when any person who ACTUALLY plays the godkitten game shuns the place as a PvE zone where players get corrupted by easy rewards.

We get stripped of potential friends and players and they lose the chance to experience the same wonder and fun we had.

Literally the worst kind of people to want to rip away and deny a certain group of people the privilege of equality.

Reminds me of Apartheid in South Africa.

ArchonWing.9480:

funassistant.6589:

Zephyra.4709:

This thread is utterly appalling, in a hilarious way.

WvW vets prior to F2P: “EOTM is just a k-train and isn’t real big boy WvW, it’s a joke.”
WvW vets after F2P introduced: “Restrict F2P accounts to EOTM so they can get a feel for what WvW is like and entice them to buy the game, else we’ll get more trolls in WvW.”

How toxic, misleading, vile and wrong. What a bunch of salty children these people are; laughing off how EOTM is basically PvE with little pvp interaction (which it mostly is, given the k-trains) and yet wanting to dump fresh blood into the game by restricting them THERE stating it’ll entice players to buy the full game.

Yes, dump all the would-be new guildies, players, server buddies, friends etc into a joke of a game mode.

This community. Seriously.

/thread?

Considering there’s not a single argument that isn’t tainted by a logical fallacy in this entire block of text I quoted (yea, let’s generalize the whole community into one thread), a one word seal of approval doesn’t really help much. Though I guess the initial block at least tried to have a thought. Thanks for sharing and better luck next time.

But he’s 100% right though. Any player who actually plays WvW and not just afk’s in Home garri posting on this forum has the same opinion.

Junkpile.7439:

funassistant.6589:

Server List
EU bois hype

Aurora Glade, Gandara, Gunnar’s Hold, Seafarer’s Rest, Desolation, Piken Square, Far Shiverpeaks and Kodash[De] (Riverside[De] for 1 night only lol)

Aurora Glade: Original server, probably nicest people you’ll find as long as you don’t disagree with them. They’re basically like the Children of the Corn, be a child with them or get sacrifice to some Corn God called Guildzebub.

Gandara: Great people, relaxed atmosphere 9/10 times. Got a bit toxic towards new commanders.

Seafarer’s Rest: Never again. Never in my life have I experience such a toxic pathetic group of people. Most of the time mapchat was vile towards people playing the actual game. There’s even currently a player called “Deso Fkers” that came from SFR on Desolation. He’s building Alpha Golems with Keep supplies and suiciding them off cliffs. epic community rite?

Gunnar’s Hold: Nice people. Still oldschool though.

Desolation: Current server. Turning into a cesspool due to the nice people leaving and the PPT-only players taking control. (PPT-only as in, if you aren’t facerubbing a door for the tick you should exit WvW immediately)

Piken Square: Eh, I enjoyed my time there. Nice people.

Far Shiverpeaks: Current EU big boss. Stacked to the brim with the best players in EU. If you dispute it you’re wrong. Nice relaxed people, would go to again 10/10

Kodash[De]: Very friendly germans! Have to say, I enjoyed my time there more than the other 7 servers I’ve been to. Can’t even speak german myself.

More liek a rant than a description of the communities.

I always trust bandwagoners word. You are reason why our old salty players did go force their community kitten in FSP. Those dudes really hate bandwagoners.

Nobody hates bandwagoners because it’s new faces in WvW You should ask your Zerg Queen to tell you when she bandwagoned to FSP too

Josh Davis.6015:

So, I can’t go into much detail on things quite yet, but I just wanted to reassure you folks that we’re actively discussing a number of issues that are affecting balance in PvP – including, but not limited to elementalist sustain/damage. Per the usual, we’ll be talking to you folks about the changes once we’ve finalized them.

Sorry I haven’t been that active on the forums lately – we’ve been pretty busy around the office.

“Thanks, Grouch. You’re the worst!”

Edit: Also, just because this is an elementalist thread doesn’t mean we’re only looking at elementalist, and it also doesn’t mean we’re only looking at doing nerfs.

You are the worst. Thanks buddy.

Server List
EU bois hype

Aurora Glade, Gandara, Gunnar’s Hold, Seafarer’s Rest, Desolation, Piken Square, Far Shiverpeaks and Kodash[De] (Riverside[De] for 1 night only lol)

Aurora Glade: Original server, probably nicest people you’ll find as long as you don’t disagree with them. They’re basically like the Children of the Corn, be a child with them or get sacrifice to some Corn God called Guildzebub.

Gandara: Great people, relaxed atmosphere 9/10 times. Got a bit toxic towards new commanders.

Seafarer’s Rest: Never again. Never in my life have I experience such a toxic pathetic group of people. Most of the time mapchat was vile towards people playing the actual game. There’s even currently a player called “Deso Fkers” that came from SFR on Desolation. He’s building Alpha Golems with Keep supplies and suiciding them off cliffs. epic community rite?

Gunnar’s Hold: Nice people. Still oldschool though.

Desolation: Current server. Turning into a cesspool due to the nice people leaving and the PPT-only players taking control. (PPT-only as in, if you aren’t facerubbing a door for the tick you should exit WvW immediately)

Piken Square: Eh, I enjoyed my time there. Nice people.

Far Shiverpeaks: Current EU big boss. Stacked to the brim with the best players in EU. If you dispute it you’re wrong. Nice relaxed people, would go to again 10/10

Kodash[De]: Very friendly germans! Have to say, I enjoyed my time there more than the other 7 servers I’ve been to. Can’t even speak german myself.

More liek a rant than a description of the communities.

Good lord, the Funny Sunny Bunny K-Train arrived in the thread.

1k badges. Wtb Tomes of Knowledge.

Zephyra.4709:

This thread is utterly appalling, in a hilarious way.

WvW vets prior to F2P: “EOTM is just a k-train and isn’t real big boy WvW, it’s a joke.”
WvW vets after F2P introduced: “Restrict F2P accounts to EOTM so they can get a feel for what WvW is like and entice them to buy the game, else we’ll get more trolls in WvW.”

How toxic, misleading, vile and wrong. What a bunch of salty children these people are; laughing off how EOTM is basically PvE with little pvp interaction (which it mostly is, given the k-trains) and yet wanting to dump fresh blood into the game by restricting them THERE stating it’ll entice players to buy the full game.

Yes, dump all the would-be new guildies, players, server buddies, friends etc into a joke of a game mode.

This community. Seriously.

/thread?

Why do you even care about winning matchups. You’re playing a game not a spreadsheet.

/thread

Junkpile.7439:

It’s kind of wrong that EotM doesn’t have dolyaks, camps or stonermist. Anet should fix this.

But that would be breaking game lore

EotM has lore-appropriate objectives

As for WvW achievements, we should just resign ourselves to the bleakness of the situation.

We’re never getting attention. We should just strive to improve the gamemode for ourselves and our community. Played organised events and such.

It’ll numb the pain while we grind stonemist captures.

You’re actually wrong

Everybody is equally lame

Luvpie.8350:

Hi Anet,

Please limit free accounts to EOTM. It is one of the easiest ways to control them trolling WvW. Otherwise you will need to restrict supply carry, commander tags, upgrades etc for them in WvW which will be more complicated. Restriction to EOTM only will entice them to purchase the game more if they like WvW and want to help their server ‘win’. Level to 60 before WvW is not a restriction at all for serious trollers.

Restrictions listed here : https://help.guildwars2.com/entries/95982157
Free accounts need to be limited to EOTM only.

No. I want my f2p friends to join me in actual WvW.

Hi Junkpile.

Why are you posting in the WvW subforum when you only play EotM where you spend 99% of your time killing NPC’s. That counts as PvE right?

If I only played a certain gamemode I would never frequent other subforums out of mutual respect and to avoid kittenposting.

Players in FSP play lame specced warriors, guardians, staff eles and power necros. So do players in SFR. And Desolation. And Piken Square. And Jade Sea. And Gandara. And Kodash. And Aurora Glade. And Vizunah Square. And Vabbi, Blacktide, Fissure of Woe, Ruins of Surmia, Ring of Fire, Gunnar’s Hold, Underworld, Whiteside Ridge, Augury Rock, Fort Ranik, Abbadon’s Mouth, Drakkar Lake, Dzagonur, Elona Reach, Miller’s Sound, Riverside and Baruch Bay.

So FSP players win because they’re better. And to every respective server that has won FSP in fights, you’re good too.

WvW is glorified PvE with Roleplay elements added in.

Best game mode.

PvP is flooded with builds that gave me e-cancer. And Celestial Elementalists are pathetically useless in high numbers. kek.

Feels Good Man.

Dayra.7405:

bardaan.9215:

I am a SEA player that is currently loving in England

Haha, cool

bardaan.9215:

right now but i play at night time on my free days for WvW and guilds which server would you guys recommend doesn’t have to win all the time.

For EU-Night (with is NA-prime, not SEA-prime) play: the lower in the tier you go, the more lonely you are. Auora will have around 10, FSP probably around 20-40, SFR and Deso the only ones with more.

Not true. It’s entirely relative on which and if a commander is tagged.

Listen, if you wanna have fun in a social environment where players are extremely competitive, the competition in fights are tough and so on? Go to FSP. (FSP is the EU fight server, the best players are stacked there. Only real fight competition for them pugwise seems to be Desolation.)

If you want a casual environment where the people are exorbitantly friendly and funny? Go to AG. (Many players started off in AG and the community really is friendly and REALLY casual.)

After last nights Rom stream where he chanted U C K F E L E S :^)

You’d think that the balancing team gets the idea.
Or don’t they even play PvP?

Inb4 my topic gets locked or deleted. Inb4 ele apologists.

Celestial Elementalist is k i t t e n B R O K E N

N E R F

C E L E S T I A L IS B R O K E N

N E R F

pls no banhammerino

What’s WvW like? Dead unless your side has a Blue Dorito up.

Speaking from the (current) 1st ranked server on EU, there’s nothing going on unless someone decides to lead.

Guilds are dying left right and center.

Delete? It’s a viable team composition!

The topic itself is completely truthful!

Krysard.1364:

I agree with all except for class stacking

I’d rather not have the Team Overskill composition anywhere in my life.

It’s a player driven mode where we:

1. Stack servers and destroy matchup variety by locking ourselves in glicko hell
2. Just generally be unpleasant towards each other even if we’re just playing the same videogame.
3. Create divisions and cliques associated with player created gamemodes and other people’s “True” gamemode (In EU there was a massive kittenthrowing contest between players who prefer to PPT and those that prefer to kill each others for funsies (Raiding Guilds/GvG* guilds)).

WvW has never been so dead as it is now. Dunno if lull between HoT overpopulation. Doubt it.

Is it us? Or have we put up with Anets blatant disregard for anything considered WvW for too long? Is our rage justified?

Zephyra.4709:

Junkpile.7439:

Jay.7546:

Killing uplevels in a KTrain map? Not WvW but glorified PVE which is just as easy. But nice to know how the Platinum, Mithril and Diamond ranks are achieved.

Why guilds can win against blobs in wvw, but in EotM they wipe?

Yeah some [TORK] guild got embarrassingly obliterated by our disorganized, clutzy up-level infested PUG Zerg (in the red lands area) the other night.

I really so wonder how/why full 80 guilds can wreck in real wvw but in EOTM… Nope?

I also remember constantly farming and disrupting both enemy sides with my guild while vastly outnumbered and under siegefire ^.^

I constantly got pm’s that “eotm isn’t pvp go back to wvw” “stop destryo karmatrain” and varied insults. But hey, it’s your game so who am I to criticize how any of us play it!

P.S. Calling out guild names in a negative fashion is considered rude in many circles.

Why change it? It promotes teamplay.

If you know your 1 buddy is going to rally about 50 or so people maybe you should expend your HP to revive him. Not just selfishly 11111 further.

All of the titles are ridiculous and unreachable.
Except UD.

But nowadays even that has gotten harder. So there’s no real reason to believe that any casual player will get any of the titles within 3 or so years.

gitflap.9031:

Any server bar Gandara…unless you GvG on an enemy bl. In which case, knock yourself out. Speaking of which…GvG should always occur on an enemy bl. It should be a rule. Guild 1 from server A fights guld 2 from server B at the windmill on server C’s home border. Make it so!

No.

As for GvG, there’s not much going on in EU.

We’re basically dead in the water until HoT.

I turned to PvE, because it’s not like I play this game for the game anymore. I just want money to fuel my skin addiction

Also raiding is super frustrating right now as the side with the most necros ALWAYS wins the fight. b-b-b-b-balance

ArchonWing.9480:

Silverkey.2078:

I’m fairly ignorant in terms of zerg fights, but if the meta is now more ranged than ever, isn’t reflection a bigger thing than before? Sure, many AOEs are not reflectable (wells, marks, meteor shower…) but many ranged AA are.
I am just a mesmer who has mostly roamed but is interested in zerg fights if only my server had a larger population…

Shhhhhh… nobody’s supposed to know that.

It’s not even the hard CC or even the massive “1200 ranged dps” that ends up killing people, but we’ll leave that for another day.

That being said, I do believe stability stacks could use adjustments and them not stacking in duration is another issue (though it can be worked around). For example, I think the warrior’s balanced stance which only gives 5 stacks of stab on a 40s cooldown is a bit too weak.

It’s the unblockable 2*(x amount of necros) wells being dropped, in conjunction with the unblockable elementalist chill fields, that kill you. Added to that is the fact that every necro and his mother runs spinal shivers so if you get caught you die, and just about every elemelon has lightning rod. Every ranged class just happily drops his circles ontop of the red names not bothering in the slightest to dodge, heal, rotate skills or communicate. Maybe the slightest giggle when you see the unskilled melee players crash and burn in spectacular fireworks to the accompaniment of cold cold spinal shiver sounds.

Melee requires infinitely more skill to play than a ranged class in equal circumstances.

Contest my argument as much as you want, but you know I’m right.

I don’t even care, this is glorious.

GW2 is best gaem evar.

Just add worthwhile rewards. The PvE’ers will flock into easy matchups where the Hardcore players can farm them to their hearts contents.

Why even bother with NA! Just come over the pond to EU, we’ll show you a good time.

We’ll teach you how to be a pirate! We’ll show you how many Ultimax Denominators we have! We’ll even show you how organised and extremely effective our night trains are!

Our national servers are the true kings of PPT over here in EU. Germans have siege warfare downpat. The french are the best PPT’ers in the world. And the international servers are filled to the brim with the most hardcore kitten PK overlords!

We trump NA anyday. If I say so myself.

:^)

zengara.8301:

I cant stealth with my thief at all in wvw, since the patch, you get revealed when out of combat.

Truely glorious BALANCE update. Don’t think this is a bug at all. :^)

Anet probably finally done ressing their dead balance team.

THIS IS BEAUTIFUL.

Matchup threads is where I live yo.