Guild Wars 2

Vapula.8210:

I can’t get behind this idea, stacking 3+ of the same professions is a symptom of poor balance, not a cause. Bringing professions more in line with one another and promoting build diversity (fixing crap traits) will fix this issue. Like it was mentioned above, tpvp groups run different builds of the same professions. Why should they be unable to do so?

one ele is bare-able
two eles are OP and any team that uses them shouldn’t be in top 100 leader boards
3 eles are kitten and any team that run them shouldn’t should be permanently banned, not sitting in top 10

Bas.7406:

That’s ridiculous. Some of us do tournaments and structured for fun, and have no desire to be pigeonholed into specific class or Meta setups. I run an all-necro team setup to help other Necro’s learn some tips. Your idea is simply not feasible and would destroy any sort of fun or gimmicky build designed to counter the really strong classes. Double Engi wrecks eles and necros ;p.

Custom Tournaments for that. Problem?

Apolo.5942:

I think it would actually be more useful if Anet acknowledged the dreadful state of pvp in general and why it failed so hard. Then made a compromise and moved from there. I dont think this kind of reactions are of much use. In my opinion they need to scrap the current model (as far as pvp is concerned) and move back to the GW1 model with the standard trinity. Just because it is a different idea, it does not mean it is a good idea, and i think the spvp numbers speak for them selves about this.

It amazes me how Arenanet Ignored GW1 and tried to copy WoW.

If they released GW1 PVP Area with updated graphics at 100 EUR. I would buy it instantly. Just updated graphics nothing more. No combat system changes, no profession changes, no skill changes nothing.

What happened to GVG, Arena and HA? Why did you ignore them and give us a kittenty Conquest Game mode?

Apolo.5942:

Honestly think that is simply not feasible, if 90% of the spvp player base, play the same 3 classes over and over again aka Thief, Mesmer, Ele, consider how long you would be waiting in line to get a spot on a 5 different classes team.

It would be the final nail in the coffin of spvp.

SPVP wont be dead more then it already is. Limiting to ONE Ele per team will get old PVPs (which were proper PVPers not poser clowns) back…maybe.

The current game balance is horrible. Stacking multiple classes is one of the main cause.

People already quit due to this unbalanced and leader-boards did not make them come back.

Actually leader-boards show horrible bad players/team that used to lose to PUGS in top 50, because they abuse 3 Ele team.

If you limit one class per team, it fixes this ele abuse and promotes diversity.

Dancing Face.4695:

Remove stalth from mesmer and ALL be ok, i hope. There are too many mechanics op in mesmer all togheter.
Copies: a “meat” wall, a way to damage, to heal more, to confuse and get target a bit harder compared other classes. Yee you are right, can be easly targeted, but n pvp it’s a matter of second, a good player who can have 2 second advantage can win the fight. when you have targeted the right one….bam! stealth other advantage. Uh let’s target again is so easy…..pls seroiusly. All this while he dps and you try to understand what and where. Matter of second? ok but seconds are years in pvp. Don’t want to remove copies, ok let’s remove stealth so when you found the right one you don’t have to do all the job again. I could go forward lilsting all other op mechanics but i got the point.
Pls do something.

MUST HAVE for Shatter Mesmer:
Staff for Survivability
Sword and Focus for Burst/CC/Swiftness

Mirror Images for Burst
Portal for defending other cap points
Blink to stay alive against rooting and stuns. No decoy wont work due to IMMOBILZE

Time Warp as Elite

Where is all this stealth?

jportell.2197:

^Jumper knows what’s up as well… Look at leader boards… I will say if they nerf thief stealth in some way… I hope they make the agility thief more promising… hot joined on it earlier… It was fun… but I died a lot lol… Increase the healing on with draw and it may be cool… Also he is very much right when it comes to mesmers… Everyone else thinks their burst is “amazing” but honestly a properly specced guardian can do just as much and still survive like a boss.

Leaderboards mean nothing. Some of the worst players I seen are in top 10. Its awesome tanking 4 people in top 10 leader boards as Bunker BM Ranger for whole match and they never got me below 80% HP

OH LOOK I GOT X QP AFTER I LOSE X^9999 MATCHES!

PS. I love Pistol-Whip thief with 30 in acrobatics, too bad it was nerfed to doing less damage then auto attack and thief can only run backstab now

Verdelet Arconia.6987:

juno.1840:

These two class mechanics require skill to counter — more so than any other class in the game (go ahead and pick one — no other mechanics compare)

unfortunately the amount of dmg they deal is just too high for using simple skills especially thieves . below is an example on my ranger with 3.2k toughness,1.1k healing power,i used up all my utility in a previous skirmish so this thief killed me under 5 seconds flat.

4k steal,7k backstab,2 times HS for 9k,3k cloak n dagger.

he pressed around 5 buttons only

Ranger counters thieves. L2P

Mesmers that use Greatsword and/or Pistol Offhand are baddies. If you lose to them, shame on you.

If you are an ele and you lose to any mesmer, shame on you. A fart from any ele kills clones before the mesmer can shatter.

Also LOL at people who complain about Mesmer Stealth. Please tell me how I can have so many utility slots! Mesmer NEEDS: Mirror Images, Portal and Blink. Yes mesmer does have stealth skills even elite stealth skills but no one uses them, and torch sucks, focus is a must.

Mesmer is also weak in 1v1 since phantasm nerfs. Its great in TEAM FIGHTS but 1v1 he is free fodder for anyone. No condition removal and clones die instantly.

Mesmer is even free fodder for any thief and warrior in 1v1. Thief can just troll with shortbow instantly killing anything that spawns and warrior kills any clone or phantasm in 1 auto attack due to big frontal cone area and damage.

I changed 3 teams till now. The previous one always dissolved due to bad direction the game is taken.

I tried making my own team, but people have no motivation and with all these disappointing patches the future look bleak. I don’t have a team since before the change to 1 map per tourney.

This patch is the final straw. I ended up playing TERA waiting for this patch. Not even Bunker Ele nerf, which is now gamebreaking on the new map due to RtL. No class has been tweaked to have new builds they can use. Technically BM Bunker Ranger was nerf. Ranger can now only play trapper. Mesmer can only play Shatter. Thief can only play Backstab.

How about buffing Phantasm, other weapons on thieves and bows on ranger?

Amazing how the best players I seen are are below 100 QP because they have no team and do not want to PUG, while baddies who whine while running glasscannon with no stunbreakers are in QP Rankings due to having a team of exploiters.

Even making a team is nearly impossible now. Everyone attitude is “meh why bother”. QP needs to be reset and give us a proper ladder and rating. I’m tried of baddies bragging at their rank and QP when you never lose any QP when you lose.

I can count the number of people worth being in QP rating on 1 hand, and they are only 2.

Imma let you you finish, but BM Ranger > Trap Ranger.

Also Trap Ranger existed since launch of game. Nothing has change in the build. No one used to invite my trap ranger until last month.

Oni.5429:

I think he is talking about the fact that you need a target for mirror images to work, clever one.

You had a target to react. You saw him coming head on with burst. The thief was bad who didnt even burst fast. You had even more time to use use other stun breakers to get out.

Like I said, you run without Staff or Blink then whine about burst. L2p baddie.

Med.6150:

ilJumperMT.4871:

Nothing to see move along, L2P Issue. He doesnt even know that Mirror Images is a Stun Breaker

Not that I think he played it well (he admitted to that already) or that he’s a good player, as it’s hard to tell in GW2 (nor is it required), but you should learn how skills work before you flame somebody. He couldn’t have used Mirror Images to break the stun.

You can use MI to break Basilisk Venom

Mrbig.8019:

jportell.2197:

Whether or not YOU think it is working as intended is irrelevant. If it was such a HUGE gamebreaking issue then it would have been addressed when they addressed the shattered strength bug. This is one of the few things that has not been nerfed on mesmers and also one of the few things that actually works for us 100% of the time. So just because you think it is gamebreaking (everyone else is concerned with timewarp/portal/ etc) does not mean that it is. And also on the whole burst classes thing. Boo freaking hoo. So mesmers make you work a little bit to land your burst. Too bad. Illusionary persona requires us to go all the way into the grand master tree to get so its effects should be available even with no illusions considering that we only have one or two oh*kitten* buttons available via weapon sets to begin with.

You’re SUPPOSING, and whining.

“boo hoo i spent 30 trait points into illusions, it needs to AT LEAST trigger without illusions”.

No. The description says otherwise.

Every class has tons of bugs, a bouncing projectile makes the thief to be destealthed when he’s hit within shadow refuge area, and this is happening from culling changes in december ( 2 months ago).

This is gamebreaking for a thief, yet it still haven’t been fixed.

Shattered might was TEN TIMES more gambreaking than this, since you could not only macro shatter for double damage, you could also do it with 25 stacks of might on, for quadruple double damage ( 14k shatter every 10 secs ?).

And LOL, are you really saying you have few escaping abilities ?

Do you know you have the cheapest stunbreaker CD ( blink) and are the class with the greatest number of low CD stunbreakers in the whole game ?

Do you know you are THE ONLY class with a stunbreaker INCORPORATED into you weapon skills ( along with the thief, on a not-pvp viable-weapon), and it’s on a 8 secs CD with a mere 5 trait point investment ( aka phase retreat) ?

inb4 “phase retreat is not a stunbreaker, it doesn’t break stun”.

It actually works even better. If you decoy after basilisk ( or any other stun-before-burst) you’ll still be hit: phase retreat teleports you away, basically nullifying the whole burst; it’s A LOT BETTER than a stunbreak.

And it also, after SIX MONTHS, still makes my pets to lose aggro, when it really shouldn’t.

Should i go on ?

thanks god the staff is subpar in teamfights so mesmers prefer to roll with GS for max team utility.

Amazing how people take GS over a Staff as mesmer. Yes greatsword has more damage, way more, however staff gives way more surviblity.
Being a shatter mesmer, a fart kills you. You NEED Phase Retreat, which breaks stun and works better then stun breakers even on knockdowns. Chaos Armor is a plus for more defense.

Ideally you would switch between staff and gs depends on need, however they blocked that so now just run staff all time due to the danger that you will be bursted.

Amazing how people QQ when going glass cannon builds with no escape skills. Of course a thief or warrior is gonna kill you if you have no escape as glass cannon. You except to sit inside a full burst and staying alive? Due to this reason Blink > Decoy. You can still get bursted while in stealth, on the other hand you can just blink away.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but you’re a horrible mesmer.
I seen rank 20 mesmers who play better then you. Miku Lawrence in this thread alone is a better mesmer then you can ever be.

Nothing to see move along, L2P Issue. He doesnt even know that Mirror Images is a Stun Breaker

Ayraswag.3761:

Play tera tbh it’s how most people expected GW2 to turn out. 3s/Ranked BGs + proper ability avoidance and spell/attack targeting with a crosshair + No downed state (after playing WoW/Tera again for awhile i finally realized how stupid downstate in MMO PvP is, it has 0 place in a game like GW2 or any MMO for that matter. Kind of pointless even logging on GW2 at this point unless for idk super casual play with the state it’s in and i doubt some “magic” feb patch will change anything tbh.

TERA is gear over skill. The best player in T13 cannot even hope to beat a T14 person.

PS. Nice exploiting on Temple of Silent Storm map on meditation bro. Typical cheater team. Pity great players like Lowell joined you over Chieftain Ninjas

jim.5380:

u said “funny how you judge people on QP.”
this thread is not for you its for people asking for more people to join their team.
The game is already losing most of its teams are u trying to make a new team not able to get members, due to w/e reason? also have u been commenting every recruitment thread u see with requirements u dont find fitting? This is for a new team LF people not for you or me or whoever else has whatever random to say.
Over and Out.

If a team really want to recruit people they will find them in team by playing with or against them and judging their skill, not spamming on forums

jim.5380:

to purie: this psycho is not psyco dont jump into other people topics when they try to recruit and badmouth them its not your right.
to pharexys: the guardian u talk about did this on his own without psycho knowing to explain to him he is wrong
and to jumper: dont jump on other ppl recruitment threads u have no right

how am i jumping on other people threads?

I’m stating a fact. Best mesmer i seen are all below 100 qp. I seen mesmer with 500+ qp which have no idea how to play.

So funny how people think some noobs are pro players due to QP when they need to cheat and exploit to win. Most of them suck so much they cannot even use portal until you neutralized the point.

Godlike.8376:

Jim Haters will be haters so let them hate… PhD on strats here btw…

phd quit game I was on htis team now i have no team

Cattish.2610:

i would like to occupy thief’s spot

You never invite me for paids =.=

Ranger counter?
1) Kill Pet
2) Dont run Dual Ele
3) Immoblize Spam (no pet = no condition removal). Ranger tanks via dodging.

Best part is people whining about trap ranger, and the same people said ranger sucks despite the build has been there since launch. Lets not mention BM Tank Ranger > Trap Ranger

funny how you judge people on QP.

I can count the people who deserve QP rankings in 1 Hand. Worse people I seen have 600+ QP

Rangers need buff.

You wanna counter ranger? Kill their pet.

No damage, No condition Removal, No CC.

ZING!

lets try triple ele

1 Class per team need to happen. It will promote class versatility and no trolol broken meta like triple ele

I got 360k Glory with nothing to buy….

nerva.7940:

Bunker rangers use 2 ravens just sayin

1 Raven is a must but the 2nd pet is optional.

Personally I dont like White raven due to lower HP. I find Jaguar good to use stealth when helping 1v1s with pet so the enemy has no idea where is my pet

BM Ranger > Trap Ranger

NaturalPortman.9562:

I don’t even know why Java was invited to the state of the game, clearly he’s looking out for his own kitten and his “not op” ranger trap spec lol.

I dont know why Java was even invited to the state of game. He clearly has no idea how to play the game. A random PUG from EU could had done a better job.

His Ranger Trap builds are BAD.

http://www.teampz.com/threads/tanky-trap-ranger.22/

I wish he could come to EU to teach his team how to play Ranger.

1) Trolls Urgent over Healing Spring (See Point 3)

2) Sharpen Edges is not worth the trait point. Its 1 stack of bleed for 1 second only.

3) Shared Anguish over Vigorous Renewal (Pair it with Healing Spring for nearly 100% Vigor uptime)

3) Hide In Plain Sight over Off-Hand Training. Hide In Plain Sight is quite a useless skill, and torch is useless without Off-Hand Training. With Off-Hand Training trait, torch becomes one of the most powerful ranger weapons.

4) Trap Rangers are useless against current meta. Most teams run at least 2 eles. 3 eles are most common. You think that a trap ranger can do any condition damage against 3 eles?

5) Rabid Amulet over Shaman. Using Healing Spring with Vigorous Renewal and Shaman Amulet = OP Tank

6) Beastmaster Bunker Ranger is better build. It gives you better burst, more sustained damage, more tankablity while you are able to support other points by sending pet (Example send pet mid from side point to change Guardain VS Guardain to Guardain + Jaguar VS 1 Guardain)

http://www.intothemists.com/calc/index.php?build=-FF3FkBFxE-v-d2JEV-0;9V83;3T9T;436A2;059BUVk6aZk6jwmAjwmA9cG

Lighting Reflexes is changable to anything you like
Vigorous Training in BM Traits is changable to anything you like

Facepalm

And someone tell Java that Bunker BM Ranger > Trap Rangers

Shamless dump.

I tried with 30 tokens and still no crit.

I’m loving my scroll though <_<

Miko.5726:

ilJumperMT.4871:

Warrior has a good selection of weapons, the problem is traits.

Traits, conditions AND positioning. (no blink, no stealth, no real defense)

Traits can fix conditions, like someone suggested immoblize strike removes chill and cripple also. I like that idea

Agadar.4931:

Durzlla.6295:

Only the ranger forums are so stupid they think their prof is broken, despite the sPvP forum saying good rangers are completely unbeatable in 1v1 when they’re using a trapper build…

Keep trying to make everyone else believe it’s the profs fault bad rangers, but it’s not working.

Only idiots who don’t know how to play can’t defeat a trap ranger, or any ranger for that matter.

Actually trap rangers is a hard counter to mesmer. Shatter mesmers have no condition removal and you can put traps on their portal.

Watch mesmer blow himself up after he ports

daydream.2938:

dimentox.6019:

Yup exactly, the point of the roles is being able to match up your class with the roles that mix together with a build and thats what that builds for…

When i first started i was like wtf is a bunker…
so i thought this would help

The essentials for a team seem to be a bunker, and a power dps. (usually mesme, thief, warrior). AFter that u can fool around.

some of the good paid tourny teams run.
Ele/ele, guardian, mesmer, ranger.
Ele, guardian, thief, mesmer, ranger.
Ele, ele, ele, guaridan thief (origin online sometimes does this-though eu meta is a little different).
ele,guardian, mes, mes , engy.
ele, guardian, mes , thief , warrior.

An older standard set up might have looked like.
Ele, gaurdian, mesmer, necro, thief.

Youll notice the common denominator is ele and guardian. Eles can roam super fast, are strong 1on1, decent in team fights and hold side nodes well. Guardians are pretty much the best main bunkers.
Mesmers are probably the third most popular due to timewarp and portal.

But the core youll find is a roamer who can hold a point (almost always ele) a power dps, and a guardian bunker. The rest caters to choice/match up.

Eles are a joke that needs to be nerfed. They have no counter. Amazing how bad guilds win due to abusing triple ele, despite the fact that they lose 500-0 if they run dual ele or anything else

Zodian.6597:

daydream.2938:

dimentox.6019:

I actually think that there’s some meta / combos we have missed… Just waiting to be the next omfg rotfolstomping

Almost certainly. I only object to theoretical ideas ppl throw around on the forum. The official meta isnt easy to counter, thats why the top teams run something close to it. But, meta is always vunerable to clever counter play.

In competitive play it kind of works like this; run a mirror comp or run a counter comp. Most of the top NA teams have 1 or 2 comps they can use (because most people refuse to learn new classes). Team PZ for instance, likes to run 2 trap rangers (one on each side point) and 2 eles (defensive roaming between home/far/objectives), and something with decent survivability and aoe dmg such as kaypud guard or 100 nade engi (to destroy mesmer).
JBUO on the other hand, runs s/d bunker ele far push + mesmer/condi necro/bs thief, which is rely hard to deal with as double trap ranger double ele because the bunker ele counters your trap ranger on home and the thief can burst down your eles while retal guard gets dunked by condis.
Team cute runs power necro 100b war cleave comp and just lights up people in mid with lich form + time warp + 100b aoe burst, then ports back to home with Mesmer to blow up whoever went far (strong against bunker ele far push), or pressures far/objectives.

Truth is, there is no “best” comp, or even rely a set meta. There’s just like 5 strong comps/strats that everyone uses to counter one or two of the others. This is why a lot of people on NA were kitten about the skill bar lock in December.

Best Comp at the moment is more eles the better! Even best teams have problems against pugs running 2-3 eles. I even met 4 eles 1 guardain team. Good thing 3 of the eles sucked and blew up.

The nerf on bunker eles cannot come fast enough. They are too tanky that can avoid everything. At least conditions/boon removal could counter guardains, but eles are immune to conditions or physical damage.

I’m going to quote lowell

“anyone who runs dual ele or more should go…….ok I better stop at that”

Casey.9687:

They will continue to neglect the ranger just like they did in gw1….they will leave it sitting in the corner and not worry about it.

GW1 Ranger was the best Ranger/Hunter I ever played.

Granted I only care about PVP, but Magebane Ranger was THE BOSS

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=VGo-V-BF0FFu-e2gDV-0;9F5L;1TJ-J-27A39;245;25-F7-F04Ewk2Ewk26Bf

Here you go. Its a horrible spec though, there is no such thing as power ranger. You may change Signet of Renewal with whatever you want. You might want to drop 5 points from nature magic to pick 5 in beastmastery for quickness on pet swap.

If you wanna be effect Ranger go trapper or beastmaster tank.

Mosharn.8357:

Gw2 doesnt have a warrior class. Someone might have accidnelty gave that name to us. Besides from being a 1 trick pony frenzy HB, 1 trick pony rifle KS build, Axe/shield 1 trick pony Evi build. Rest of the weapons are aweful. Hammer is slow as kitten and does little dmg and can be easily avoided. Mace is weak there are no real words i mean its single target CC with like barley any real dmg? lolwut? Then we got these swords to give some wars a glimmer of hope that we too have bleed builds.. until they make a full set and do S/S and see it does nothing at all. Swords are so crappy i dont know where to begin… Its dps is terrible and bleeds are at snail speed. Rifle has a random bleed on it and the only usable skill is KS and even when you use that its like ‘’OK EVERYONE IMA KNEEL AND POINT AT YOU… dont move or anything’’ Volley is easily dodged and made useless. Bow… well most of us wars get togeather and make fun of the longbow as it does little to nothing besides 1 area denial and a slow as kitten semi hard hitting 3 skill. 2 skill on bow is barley good melee range and 4/5 are utility.

Then we got horn which is never to be used in combat as it offers nothing really unless you spend 20 to go into vit so you can get its trait that will pwn your dps.

GS the overrated weapon with a useless burst that you wont see anyone use unless they noobin or goofin. Axe off hand is a messed up joke. Mace off hand aint bad.

If anyone thinks they dont suck are obiviously high. I mean we gotta go out of our way for a kill where other person is like… mhhhmm 1 oh oh hes movin let me insta kill him and then the 5 others by him.

Where as a war i like: 5 ppl this should challenge my skills..Pow got 1 guy down yeah! yeah! ah man wasted all my utility trying to stomp him…“runs” and suddenly on the ground like, ‘’Almost got em bullocks!’’

One single mishappen as a war and you will be laying on the ground wishing you hadnt missed that hit where as your enemy probably messed his/her combo like 5 times and still keep doin it to you.

I have 1.4k hours of gameplay on warrior so said above is all of experience.

If they want to improve stuff i ask they remove the silly bleed off the rifle auto and increase the dmg a bit and do something with 2 and 4.

For swords either faster bleeds or give it more dps as of now its stuck in the mid of dps and bleed and sucks at both.

Bow 2/4/5 could use a bit of dmg increase.
Hammer could have the 2/4/5 skills sped up a tiny bit.
Mace could use a dmg increase overall.
GS burst needs to be usefull remove this crappy fury giving no dmg slow as hell move and replace with somethin that would fit its theme.
Axe off hand: axe 4 needs a dif animation and a bit faster and more dmg i think it does less dmg then part 1 of auto not sure tho havent used em for a long while since axe off hand is horrible. Axe 5 could use a dmg booster as it does less dmg then auto as everyone knows and sure its an aoe and axe auto hits 3 ppl at once leaving axe 5 useless.

Warrior whining about weapon selection?

Try Ranger. Longbow is a joke, Rangers would love to change longbow to warrior version yet you want to buff warrior Longbow?

Axe 5 does less damage then auto attack? Too bad even Pistol Whip does less damage then auto attack. Its not worth using it unless for mini .5 second stun (which I find using headshot is better)

Greatsword is slow? It has the most mobility of Warrior weapons.

Complaining about bleeds on Sword? Look at ranger shortbow. It only bleeds when attacking from behind, yet all other range or melee can bleed no matter where the hit from (Starting with Warrior Rifle bleeds and continuing with Pistol Thief)

Also there are tanky builds that uses Hammer and Dual Mace that can stun lock to oblivion

Warrior has a good selection of weapons, the problem is traits.

jportell.2197:

Chukree.1756:

jportell.2197:

The fact that nearly all of your weapon skills and profession skills do WAY more damage and you still have WAY more health then I do when I try to achieve max dmg.

In what situations, if you blur frenzy and i 100b you, lets see who dies the fastes. It’s not PvE. Try play a decent mesmer and be r40+ and have experience with paids (not temple week), I think it will change your mind. Suggestions please. Don’t compare your lack of experience on a mesmer with another class.

Lack of experience on a mesmer? Lol. And if you 100B me I wouldn’t do BF I would do a COF which when traited gives me retaliation and I would watch as you kill yourself because I am not the cookie cutter shatter glass cannon mesmer. I am a tank and I can out tank most guardians with my build. So please don’t resort to calling me inexperienced at a class that I have many hours on as well as being the person that people go to in my guild when they want mesmer advice. Just no.

Why bother going Tanky Mesmer? If you played against any good Mesmer you would see how he pulls all enemy team inside his shatter spike. You know something called Focus which most people seem to think Pistol is better.

Chukree can confirm that “Cookie Glass Cannon Mesmer” is a beast in tPVP especially in Mid fights. If you co-ordinate spike with AoE Pull/Shatter you can down whole enemy team.

I do admit that Confusion Mesmer is strong against Time Warp though

Arheundel.6451:

Chukree.1756:

jportell.2197:

Chukree… I’m gonna have to say that that is good proof of warriors being viable. You don’t know if that team they were fighting against was bad or not. You don’t know if they were all using communication. What was presented was a set of viable warriors absolutely owning in PvP showing that you guys are doing okay. And honestly I get happy and jump for joy when my Mesmer MindWrack hits for a total of 8k crit…

I’m in the top pvp invironment atm. I know all the teams. You can’t post nonames. I play a “viable” warrior as well, would some say, but that doesn’t make me viable. and Gz on your mesmer, what has he to do with anything. l2p.

LMAO at “top pvp environment”, to collect 100 QP+ by losing 1000 times surely looks good lol, pls do come back with your “top player” status once they implement ranking and matchmaking…in the meantime I laugh at you and your claims.
Way back in GW1 a top player was a top 50 GvG player pre-ladder reset , pls do not compare this glorified alliance battle mode to real PvP rofl

Top PVP Enviroment means famous Squads like Super Squad (Too bad they disbanded )

Qualifier Points mean jack kitten. Just yesterday I was able to bunker as a blood Ranger against a Trapper Ranger, 2 Eles and a Thief for 8 minutes without ever being downed. Best part is they kept raging and stating how they are best players because they are in qualifier list!

Never mind the fact that I downed and stomped them all 3 vs 1 solo haha

possante.8310:

off-hand training is a joke?? is just one of MUST HAVE traits for any trap ranger build. lot of trap rangers even use 2 off-hand weapons, but this trait is especially for torch, witout it your torch is pretty much useless to defend/atach a point ( and that is the only reason to use a trap ranger build, as point defender or atacker)

i can just smile to mesmer guys saying can kill a trap ranger easy, yes they can if are fight them on open area (this only happen on hot join because i never saw a trap ranger on tournaments that isnt on near point or far capture point), if you need to defend/atack a point you are useless against them.

i know because i was a mesmer point defender and after sometime lot of teams were using rangers as point atacker to counter meta.
those fights were a nightmare, couldnt do any serious damage( they just need avoid iLeap and even a full burt combo take 50% health only) and as soon i have burn on me i was dead, dont forget i already loose my point because i cant stand on point otherwise i will die in 5-10s.

Still currently BM Bunkers are better. So many dodges and healing with nearly permanent Vigor up time while pets kitten people.

Best part I can send my pet to mid point while I’m not busy

the meditation exploiting needs to be fixed. I rage so much after losing a match we were winning due to exploiters

SeanPoez.8407:

ilJumperMT.4871:

Powerr.3649:

http://teampz.com/threads/tanky-trap-ranger.22/

this build ^^^ … it’s a beast

Sorry that build has so many wrong stuff.

1) Sharpen Edges is not worth it. Take Primal Reflexes for even more dodges.

2) Hide in Plain sight is a joke. Take off-hand training to make torch one of the best weapons in game.

3) Sigil of Smoldering on Torch

4) Shaman Amulet

One may argue that Rampage As One is better elite. It was definitely better but the new patch which made Entangle damage scales make it a beast.

1) The vigor you get from Primal Reflexes doesn’t stack with natural vigor so it’s not that great. It’s only 50% more endurance regeneration for 5 seconds every 15 seconds (or 16% more endurance generation). The only real use for this trait is the vigor boon can help protect some of your other boons from getting dispelled. However, it’s just one more boon for a necro to corrupt too. Sharpened Edges might suck, but it’s much better than Primal Reflexes.

2) Hide in Plain Sight is not totally amazing (especially against better players that know how to use skills on stealthed targets) but it’s certainly not a ‘joke’. Off-Hand Training is definitely more of a joke. Extra torch range is pretty much worthless especially when combined with a sword in the mainhand. The reduction of the cooldowns on offhands is decent, but it’s certainly not better than a 3 second stealth on a 30 second cooldown.

3) Smoldering (and +burn duration in general) is terrible both in PvE and PvP. Since burn stacks in duration anyways, and trap rangers have three sources of burn, you can keep it up indefinitely (especially if you use projectile finishers through the two fire combo fields). Also, conditions get removed so quickly and frequently in PvP, extending their duration by such a small amount (only 10% on only burn) has an almost negligible impact.

4) The point of the spec (as mentioned in Powerr’s link) is to be a “Treb User, Farpoint Assaulter.” That means he needs to do enough pressure to prevent people from easily destroying the treb and enough damage to kill someone on the farpoint before they can get assistance. Rabid is much better for those purposes over Shaman. Shaman might be better for some 1v1’s, but the damage output is pitiful. The precision from Rabid also has good synergy with the +30% critical damage from 30 points in Skirmishing and the Bleed on crit sigil/trait.

Off-Hand training is a joke? Shows how much you know!

Liewec.2896:

i LIKE how every now and AGAIN you turn your CAPSLOCK on,
it makes it LOOK like you have TOURETTES.

but yeah warriors are’nt even a shadow of the fearsome class they were in GW1
for bunkering this plate wearing class is the worst bunker in the game ,
(the dam generic mage-style class is the best bunker LOL)
for burst there are far better classes,
for pressure there are far better classes,
for mobility there are far better classes,
seriously warrior is the master of nothing, outdone at everything.

Best Bunker? Ele
Best Mobility? Ele
Best Condition Removal? Ele
Best Pressure? Ele
Best AoE Healing? Ele
Best Burst? Thief

At least Ele are not best burst too!

Now you keep comparing to GW1.

I loved GW1, I loved Playing Ranger and Mesmer in GW1, but I HATE these classes now.

Why did they ruin one of the best concepts in game (GW1 Mesmer) for a clone spamming class?

I want my control back. I want my ranger to be interrupter with pressure again. I want to power block people again. Ranger and Mesmer were my favorite classes in GW1, yet in GW2 they are nothing similar to what they where.

Now for comparison. GW1 Mesmer you controlled your enemies. You were a puppet master!

https://sapphocentric.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/puppetmaster1.gif

Now in GW2, Mesmers are a wannabe Naruto!

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120227171259/narutofanon/images/1/18/Naruto_shadow_clone.jpg

Powerr.3649:

http://teampz.com/threads/tanky-trap-ranger.22/

this build ^^^ … it’s a beast

Sorry that build has so many wrong stuff.

1) Sharpen Edges is not worth it. Take Primal Reflexes for even more dodges.

2) Hide in Plain sight is a joke. Take off-hand training to make torch one of the best weapons in game.

3) Sigil of Smoldering on Torch

4) Shaman Amulet

One may argue that Rampage As One is better elite. It was definitely better but the new patch which made Entangle damage scales make it a beast.

Noctis Assassin.4035:

I’ve been trying to get the sword but it comes down to rng. Although, this is pretty much the same situation i was in when I heard about dwyana’s shortbow.

Well I can confirm Staff Axe and Focus myself

Rumor is that critical forge of a sword using Paid Token + Arcane Powder + Arcane Sliver + Sword Token = Crystalline Blade.

This is equivalent to craft of Ancient Scroll, Dwyana’s Bow, Jade Staff, Mammoth Axe and more.

Does anyone ever did this Sword?

Lordrosicky.5813:

Random map 1v1 = win. And disable character switching ofc.

Just disable Temple of Silent Storm :P

Even 1 Ticket is too much to ask for that horrible map

Who’s idea was it to even create Temple of Silent Storm? Its a horrible map that promotes the current meta even more.

No matter how good you are, teams that are running Warrior/Ranger/Engineer are gimped on this map due to lack of blinks. Temple of Silent Storm is a huge map with multiple levels, thus it promotes classes with blink.

One may argue that using a thief with shadowtrap on home point is better then mesmer in this map due to the fact portal doesnt last long enough for mesmer to be of any use with the distance cover needed.

Current meta is at least 2 Eles. Most meta teams run 1 Guardain 2 Eles 1 Mesmer 1 Thief.
Instead of fixing the current meta, which is quite horrible in my opinion, they promote the use of this meta by shoving this horrible map down our throat.

Who created Temple of Silent Storm should be fired. Its a waste of resources of Arenanet and even the Clients. You would be better off porting GW1 Maps without even a graphic update then using a map that promotes Eles and Thieves due to blink.

While I agree that 1V1 Tourney is better, the map is not.

Team Curse uses macro exploiting players. Nothing to see move along.

Jumper.9482:

possante.8310:

for me 0,25s is fine. dont see why people are complain a lot about it

Because .25s is enough time to be reacted to. Puts it on par with Thief/Warrior.

Lets add .25s between all thief skills shall we?

Mr Glasscannon useless thief with Balisik Venom whining about mesmers, when thieves counter mesmer easy.

Sprawl.3891:

SAtaarcoeny.8476:

i am fine with the change.

1. mesmer NA is fine with change, sounds like L2P issue jumper.

Thats because he’s a macro user.