Guild Wars 2

TheFatness.5072:

muthax.4720:

Algreg.3629:

diabluz.2860:

Tirien.1326:

See what you are doing OP it’s fairly obvious.

If gw1 worked, gw2 will work aswell. No worries, i usually don’t care what other people say, i’m afterall strong not weak Cough.

It’s very rare that a game dies, look around you so many games that have been “dead” since release and yet are still here. Why bother to speculate, you have no idea what will happen next week let alone a few years from now. But gw1 has been with us for 7 years, and gw2 with its hype and amazing gameplay/PvP it will be with us for atleast 10 years, why not you know.. just go with it.

Speculate all you want, but if gw1 managed gw2 will manage… Since most people like this game i see nothing to be worried about.

That is where you are so totally wrong. Most people don’t like this game. Most people actually find this game boring and have left. Hence the title of the thread, Welcome to the Minority.

when you look around here, apparently the people who think this game sucks haven´t left at all, but seem rather addicted to this forum.

That’s the single biggest failure of the B2P model. Wowtards quit but keep on trolling for free…

You actually cannot forum post anymore without a paid subscription. I’ve tried multiple times.

yes but anyone who bought a copy of the game and stopped playing STILL counts as paid subscription

Taihaku.8412:

diabluz.2860:

Taihaku.8412:

This thread isn’t constructive to the game and all it is doing is asking for flamebait. The OP is obviously a troll and this thread should be deleted.

Any discussion relating to Guild Wars 2 is “constructive to the game”. This is the Guild Wars 2 discussion forum and that is what we are doing, discussing Guild Wars 2. This is not the suggestions forum.

Stop trying to be a forum Nazi. What you say is not golden here and no more important than anyone else.

How is “This game has low viewers on twitchtv and some guys in another mmo said GW2 sucks!” constructive?

It is shocking. I think he has convinced himself that he is contributing to the game with this badly hidden rant/whine/doomsaying.

Angelus.1042:

I am still playing. I am trying my best to ignore the Bugs and Issues that have been Plauging it for months.

Hasn’t the game been out just a month and a half?? Or were you talking about another game?

Another person who bought a game that doesn’t play the way he likes and so everybody is leaving?

Ok….

How do you know if a name has been reserved and not simply used already?

You shouldn’t have problems, my GF used my PC till the new parts for her PC arrived.

A suggestion: create a new windows user for her, so when she wants to play she just logs as herself to your PC and so you don’t need to untick the remember password and user, as every windows user has its own profile and settings (even for most games)

UnderdogSMO.9428:

Soulwatcher.2604:

The game is 5 weeks out why are not the all servers full? Why are they not making new servers? Ohhhh……… I know the game peaked and its all down hill from here!

You do know how there overflow servers work right??? if you dont than you have not been playing this game.

Why do you have this acount if not to play the game???

Well, astroturfing? Or simply to come here and try rile people up?

When Rift came out, WoW ‘lost’ about one million players, that never went back. WoW logs started an anti Rift campaign (one blogger even went on to make a banner saying “NO RIFT ALLOWED” for his/her blog. All guilds were destroyed

Imagine what must have happened when GW2 came out… I can understand the wowkiddies anger but still, time to start suspending accounts that bring no constructive criticism to the discussion

There is a suggestion subforum you can use, General is so swamped in trolls and kids that most stuff posted here ends up closed or ignored for excessive flaming

Gehenna.3625:

Or in other words: I don’t like this, so I will quit if you do not do what I want. But since I am just one small person and feel Anet would never pay attention to little old me I will exaggerate and stamp my feet….but wait, I feel so strongly about this, that I simply must be right. So therefore I know that I am representative of the majority of players.

And thus:

Anet, your game sucks and everybody knows you don’t listen to the community and because we all know this, we will all leave until you change it. But since you don’t listen, I predict this game will fail….and I will even twist the facts and make loose interpretations if it helps you change the game for me, I mean us. And any player that doesn’t feel the same as I do, is a white knight, fanboi, idiot, traitor and needs to be convinced of my opinion.

uh huh.

You beat me to it… Essentially all you said. I am really disappointed Anet hasn’t taken serious measures to prevent this. The only good thing about GW1 (for me at least, I never was a fan of the game) was it didn’t have forums…

DusK.3849:

Zale.9645:

You know he won’t accept it though.

We’ll wait and see. Consider it his test of reasonableness. He’ll either recognize that his viewpoint was based more on ignorance than anything else and change it, or he’ll continue his belief despite strong evidence that it’s wrong.

Either way, the point’s been made, and anyone with any lack of bias will accept the fact that all this doom-and-gloom “the game is dead” crap is completely false.

Don’t waste your breath, these kind of ‘people’ pop up in any MMO, they declare the game is dying/dead/going F2P. They never really add anything vaguely constructive to their posts. They are a mix of concern trolls, passive/aggressive trolls and wowkiddies.

Pointless arguing with them, they never listen or use logic. They just want to create distress on the forum in the hope of ‘killing’ the game (considering how badly MoP flopped I can see where they come from…). Only thing we can do is ignore them and report them as trolls/flamers hoping they get banned

BTW astroturfing is a reality, but I think we are just facing the effects of lose wowkiddies, nothing more

This is gotta be one of the lamest troll attempt ever.Can’t even be arsed to dress it up as a concern troll, it’s OH MY GOD WE ALL GONNA DIE

GG really

I am levelling an engineer, asura, lvl 13. met plenty of people, not all asura actually. Move to another server? What hours are you playing? Timezone?

What server are you playing and what hours?

BTW you could have chosen a better title, if you don’t want to be considered ‘trolling’
not saying you are, just the title is a bit …ugly

I just checked the servers (by choosing “world selection” at character select, if you want to try some real data instead of dooming n glooming):

NA Mostly Full and heavy with 3 medium
EU Some Full, mostly High and some medium

Yep, everyone has left

Ronin.8095:

muthax.4720:

guys it’s supposed to be a funny/joke thread (sorry about the slash..), let’s try to chill out

I’m totally cool man. Like, totally, like, +1 and stuff. I’m like too nonchalant to actually, like, care about it, because, I’m like so chill, so like take the +1 or don’t. Like, consider it a +1/-1, like, if that’s more cool with you.

Yo bro I am totally like with you man wusn’t referring to you

guys it’s supposed to be a funny/joke thread (sorry about the slash..), let’s try to chill out

THEY ALL WENT TO TAKE A NAP!
now I can play, at last

Ronin.8095:

muthax.4720:

Ronin.8095:

muthax.4720:

Ronin.8095:

muthax.4720:

I thought it was pretty clear myself

Ah right.

“My old lady has to work.” Is one sentence.

“Time to get into relax mode and play without wife aggro interference.” is another

If you say “my old lady has to work-time to get into relax mode and play without wife aggro interference.” without puntuating it and putting a random hyphen in there, it reads as one complete sentence of garbled nonsense.

Now I can understand it, it’s just nonsense.

yes it is and yest it could have done with a bit more commas… though he did use a ‘-’

and no, that’s not some weird smiley

People know what a “-” is.

It’s not punctuation either as used in the OP, it’s just a random hyphen. It makes the words work and time one word “work-time” which is what I read.

A hyphen is a hyphen and cannot be used in the same way as a comma, definitely not to break up a sentence.

If you’re takling about parenthesis sure, but that really doesn’t apply in that sentence at all. There’s nothing in it to be put in parentheses.

It’s two sentences. It should have been a period or a full stop.

LEARN ALL THE ENGLISH!

give him some slack, he was REALLY excited, I can understand him

Lol, you know I’m joking and just contributing to this thread like you as it’s one of those quirks of the internet.

I don’t care how people talk, but if it makes someone unintelligible, like it really did when I read it through, I think they should be told.

It’ll help them be understood in the future.

VIVA LA GRAMMAR THREAD!

ah while we here, let’s talk about DR out of the inflaming aura of those threads

I like to farm as much as you, old habits. I get around the DR because I zip a lot on the map, I go looking for hidden places (there is a lot) and kill a bunch of different stuff and never get hit with DR
Use the downleveling to your advantage and the fact that it’s a wonderful and dynamic (well mostly) world!

wollie.9751:

I still don’t understand what work-time means, and why his wife has it.

Put a comma instead of the hyphen

Budg.3064:

The power of the internet compels me to make no contribution to this.

AS YOU SHOULD!

Ronin.8095:

muthax.4720:

Ronin.8095:

muthax.4720:

I thought it was pretty clear myself

Ah right.

“My old lady has to work.” Is one sentence.

“Time to get into relax mode and play without wife aggro interference.” is another

If you say “my old lady has to work-time to get into relax mode and play without wife aggro interference.” without puntuating it and putting a random hyphen in there, it reads as one complete sentence of garbled nonsense.

Now I can understand it, it’s just nonsense.

yes it is and yest it could have done with a bit more commas… though he did use a ‘-’

and no, that’s not some weird smiley

People know what a “-” is.

It’s not punctuation either as used in the OP, it’s just a random hyphen. It makes the words work and time one word “work-time” which is what I read.

A hyphen is a hyphen and cannot be used in the same way as a comma, definitely not to break up a sentence.

If you’re takling about parenthesis sure, but that really doesn’t apply in that sentence at all. There’s nothing in it to be put in parentheses.

It’s two sentences. It should have been a period or a full stop.

LEARN ALL THE ENGLISH!

give him some slack, he was REALLY excited, I can understand him

Ronin.8095:

Really not trying to be a grammar nazi, I genuinely read that as one sentence.

You know like when someone has something really exciting to say to you and they just say everything at once. That’s what I read!

At first me too, don’t feel too bad about it. And to OP, I envy you.

It’s raining here and I am stuck home with an overactive 2 years old and a 6 monther…
And thank god my wife..

guys let’s make this thread get over 100 posts.. it would be amazing

Ronin.8095:

muthax.4720:

I thought it was pretty clear myself

Ah right.

“My old lady has to work.” Is one sentence.

“Time to get into relax mode and play without wife aggro interference.” is another

If you say “my old lady has to work-time to get into relax mode and play without wife aggro interference.” without puntuating it and putting a random hyphen in there, it reads as one complete sentence of garbled nonsense.

Now I can understand it, it’s just nonsense.

yes it is and yest it could have done with a bit more commas… though he did use a ‘-’

and no, that’s not some weird smiley

I am off for 3 days and my old lady has to work
I don’t have to work for 3 days while my wife has to

-time to get into relax mode and play without wife aggro interference.
well really if you need this translated.. cmon.. is this a personal thing?

I thought it was pretty clear myself

Aphix.9846:

sainguine.2870:

so dont play? noone is forcing you to.see ya

I don’t play…Thought it was pretty clear.
In this current state my character is finished for me. Not any other game has failed endgame like this. I’ve always been unhappy in other games with my character, meaning I always wanted more and advance further etc. Made me play the games for ages.

Just annoyed at the kids who post here about grinding and endgame when they’re most probably level 12 and obviously don’t have a clue.

ANd if you don’t play anymore, why are you posting this? Because it doesn’t have any constructive value anyways

Evil.9061:

@Muthax. Where are those games now?

Rift floating around a 200k sub base

Swtor- F2P Considered a failure, Founders of Bioware resign more than 75% of staff cut. Server Merged then Merged again.

Tera 50% of staff cut, going F2P servers went from 35 to 3.

The Secret World Lead 2/3 co-creators gone. staff cut 50% going F2P

Rift is hanging in there barely the other 3 have failed in and or around 6 months.

Yup its defiantly me.

I meant, maybe if you played all those games in what? 8 months? Maybe you are a bit burnt out? Change of genre?

sainguine.2870:

exactly muthax-maybe they need to text each otehr about it 400 times and listen to some mainstream pop

Between wowkiddies and the ADD generation, MMOs have no future….

Thanks warcraft, thanks indeed

“My new endgame is to try to find a game that lasts longer than 45 days. Though the MMO market hasn’t exactly been spitting out winners. Rift, Swtor, Tera The Secret World..all i,ve played in the last year and will now have to add this game to that list.”

You ever thought that maybe it’s not them, it’s you?
Just thought

So you supposedly are an adult, a father of three, and still can’t grasp the concept that anet has put some anti bot measures in the game and that these might need tweaking over time? Are you sure you aren’t 16 years old? Because only a kid would kitten like this in a thread A MONTH AFTER THE GAME CAME OUT. Instead of farming like a bot, do like the other people do: go round having fun and stop farming the same mobs over and over

And stop telling people lies about your personal life, for one they contrast direly with what you write, not mentioning no one cares or give any weight to it nor cares. Anet has given various answers to this ‘issue’, but still you can see these ridiculous threads all over the forum

So now that this festering pool of nonsense and whine has turned into a “no, I am right, you are wrong” and “wow is teh best”, I suppose it can be closed or moved to a offtopic subforum… sen the level of ‘dialog’ the wowtards are capable of

Ah how I didn’t miss all the whiney kids coming over totry to make this game like they want though their small blackmail attempts, whining and menacing, talking about dead MMOs (??).
You people never change. Please do feel to go somewhere else and gloat about the ‘death’ of GW2, like you do with every game you buy.
Unfortunately for you, this time (like many others) your tantrums are pointless.
If by dead MMO you mean without wowtards spazzing all day on teh forums, yeah let’s hope GW2 ‘dies’ soon

btw YOU are in no place to dictate what other players want to play either. Especially when these are the vast majority. Stop dreaming kid

Apos.5184:

DusK.3849:

Apos.5184:

the original Guild Wars never became big

Four million copies sold and a higher population than WoW just before the release of MoP apparently means it “never became big” now.

Which part of original guild wars didn’t you get?

Any by the way, with 4 million copies sold, then it obviously didn’t have a higher population that WoW. Unless each copy is shared by 2-3 players.

WoW never had at its peak more than 3-4 millions in the West, the rest was asian (mostly chinese) ands they pay in a completely different way. Anyway, if you want to grind and farm there are plenty games out there that cater to those inclinations, GW2, like GW before, doesn’t. So… go play with the other kids? Just leave this game in peace.

Valhingen.4957:

Communicating on Facebook and Twitter is good, but should not be the priority. There are a lot of people who don’t like those social platforms (aka companies that sell your personal info for profit). I expect updates in the launcher of the game, not on a third person site.

That’s why it’s a good idea checking the News and Announcements or Dev Tracker.
Or you meant they haven’t sent you a PM to tell you their future plans?

WH didn’t fail for lack of communication, it failed because the PVE was horrible and RvR was badly thought out and went through fixes tha twere worse than what they tried to fix.

Just saying…

Some wow fanboi is angry because MoP didn’t empty GW2 servers and is out to cry? Why is this still not locked?? It serves no other purpose other than create flames, that is OP’s intention from the start. And OP? You DO like to call people fanbois, you done it all over this thread…

It’s a bit OT but worth noting that today MoP is out but the servers are either FULL, HIGH and a few medium

On related note, this is the first WoW expac (that I am aware) that doesn’t have queues on launch day…

After some events, involving more phases and a champ, often you get a loot chest near where the champ fell.

Tosha Daydreamer.9251:

Caselia.6451:

Tosha Daydreamer.9251:

Caselia.6451:

So basically a mass majority of you are saying to not reward players for being skilled and knowing what to do to beat a dungeon quicker than “expected” and to punish them?

I assume most of you are incapable of speed running a dungeon efficiently so you’re happy that Anet is punishing everyone else for being able too.

Good job.

Really? The “you’re just jealous” argument? I thought that was only used by blonde cheerleaders in teenage movies, since they are most of the times too dumb to come up with actual smart comments.

Intelligent or not it’s actually true so it’s relevant.

/facepalm

And now the “you are too!” argument to top it? That’s it, I’m going to leave you with the rest of the trolls here and start looking for some decent discussions again. You have fun making a fool of yourself ^^ throws a cookie

Please don’t forget that the average age of people posting this kind of nonsense is around 14 years old.

Once you accepted that, it’s a lot easier dealing with the rubbish that fills MMO forums

prodigy.1023:

Ceallach.8740:

I read about the game before buying it and got exactly what I was expecting.

Either you bought the game today or places where you read about the game have people who can see the future. Diminishing returns on drops, broken economy and grindy, unrewarding gameplay – pray tell me where I could read about all this crap before launch?

Please, this is a forum to discuss GW2, not WoW, so try to stay on the subject

Thanks

Ulyssiah.8397:

OP i think you should unsub….oh wait……guess ill just have to spend more money in the cash shop to make up for yours oh well so be it. all the money my wife and i save from not playing wow anymore we can spend here…. oh we are. OP i am sure you will be missed. and my wife and i are very happy playing this game so….not everyone is unhappy. Besides I was just wondering how the people who threaten to unsub will post considering there is no sub in this game. Let me know how much real money you were going to spend a month in the shop and we will spend it for you. Have fun at whatever you do peace!!!

yeah, I am still waiting for some genius to start the “F2P in 2 months” thread…….

And peeps, if you don’t want to, you don’t have to spend a dime in the cash shop. really. I bought various gems but my GF has been playing fine without even knowing that there is a cash shop

Wolfgrey.2049:

Crucifer.2831:

Sin.8174:

Sannou.8632:

This http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBddZ1uwtsk

Thank you I miss this video.

Shows exactly what type of person the OP is.

No that video shows what happens when you only listen to casuals.

The OP is an IT Technician who knows and understands the operational procedures for proper maintenance and change. First there’s creation of a resolution, then there is documentation of the resolution, a presentation / offer to apply the resolution, acceptance and then hours of testing of resolution for bugs / kinks / issues, then many sleepless hours of live implementation where you monitor and maintain any and all issues.

In the documentation process the last part of any documentation in the field is a revert strategy if a code 1 issue arises that compromises the service.

Pretty much every single step of proper procedure was voided by ArenaNet with this past patch.

Then the response to the service speaking back about it being majorly screwed up is “Deal with it.” instead of having a revert strategy.

That is not professional, it is not proper business practice. And it is something that will hurt them in the immediate future.

They have already made their profit, never mind all the glowing reviews everywhere. They are still making money quite nicely and all they need is initial purchase.For an IT Technician you sure are a bloody idiot.

An IT Technician is likely to be an helpdesk guy, someone who changes keyboards and mice….

A serious IT person would define himself IT Analist or sysadmin or anything that doesn’t sound like a … keyboard and mice replacer

Crucifer.2831:

Dysaniac.9734:

Your loss in the end…bit of an over reaction imo. It’s people like this that just make me cringe. lol The money lost on players leaving because they don’t agree with the change is probably outweighed by the majority of players who end up staying and increase game time. Small loss, bigger gain. Bye

Again I’d consult SWTOR, TERA, RIFT and all the other companies who didn’t listen to their customers on how well that plan works out.

You start to sound like a troll. And by the way, Rift is doing fine (putting out an expansion next month), TERA was well known it was going to fail (it has been doing terribly in the East) and this game not having a monthly fee is the biggest fail-safe against little chicken-kitten blackmail attempts like this.

BEGONE!

Honestly, people like you don’t spend a dime on a game if they don’t have to pay a monthly fee, so well good riddance. And yes, I know it’s a generalization and an hyperbole, I was just trying to make you feel more at home

The amount of nonsense and rage in this forum is getting out of hand. A lot of people who has no idea what they talking about and just angry because this isn’t another crappy hamster wheel, doesn’t understand how the game works and just keeps on whining. If anet doesn’t start a cleanup operation all this is going to have a very negative impact, because the loudest voices are always the most heard.

Bloody.8769:

You are bad in reading Muthax, that 12 million, was not the Chinese players ,Blizzard never included them in their official numbers as they pid their subscription model differently so there goes your argument ( and are you racist, what do you ahve against the Asian players playing it the way they want to?? ) . this is my last response as clearly you are one of those fanbois who resorts to ad hominem attacks to defend your latest love.

and btw Tusuri, you are the one who played the numbers card by suggesting your have the Legion to support the game with your playstyle… don’t use the card if you are gonna tuck tail and call it childish when it goes against you.

You are really, really confused.
http://www.wowwiki.com/Statistics

already in 2007 almost half of the player base was in Asia, that is the only market were they have grown. Today they are at around 2 millions between EU and NA. And about your stupid comment on Asians, if they don’t buy boxes NOR pay a monthly fee, how do you ‘count’ them??

To the rest of your post, really give up posting in forums because it makes you sound a lot more childish than you probably are

Psilocin.1435:

Alice.8694:

How about rats in a box?

WoW’s mechanics are so brutally dependant on skinner’s box. That it is borderline disturbing.

GW2’s PvP is so poorly implemented that there is no element of true player skill or tactics involved.

See, a horrible generalization that is false. Just because you believe something doesn’t make it true.

That’s it for me though. If you want to reply with another worthless post without any structural or logical arguement to back it up, it’s simply pointless for anyone to continue this discussion. And here people are complaining about the “WoW-fanboys’” idiotic generalizations that aren’t even based on reality. Oh, the irony. I guess people are right. There’s no middle-ground on official forums. You either get stupid fanboys who make no attempt to keep a civilized discussion going, or you get idiotic haters who believe that anything that doesn’t cater to them is wrong.

I don’t understand why you get so angry if people complain about wowkiddies: that term indicates wow players from wrath on that tend to want everything and NOW! and that will go to new games and start complaining that the game isn’t like wow and trying to force the devs to turn it into a wowclone (and then generally leave).

No one is saying nothing about wow players PER SE. By the way, I agree 100% on the last part of your post but that same sentence seems to apply more to the so called ’wowkiddies"