stop using herald/shiro…switch to herald/mallyxn and u will do just fine. Although its a been harder to master but it have potential. If you so much condi resistance and boons remove. Definitely a valuable asset to team fight.
The issue with war now is there 0 to none counter but war counter almost all build….if its not a issue why there’s so many war nowadays..3 war on average on each team and while we are discussing here more and more are re-rolling to this OP class.
Although DH is powerful but there’s counter and they can be outplay with smart strategy. And if you play war and still lose 1v1 you might as well delete gw2
The Warrior is not OP he is easy countered by necro. Only time Warrior can usually beat necro is when necro starts because he starts with no life force. I honestly think warrior is a little weak in DPS so is necro in their own ways.
“Class x is not OP because it has one counter.” Lol, okay.
agree thts amazing funny….counter only by 1 class and all warrior player say is L2 dodge. sounds familiar….back when d/d ele is OP its also been counter by 1 class nerco and d/d player say its not op learn to dodge
DH is ok its warrior that is not ok
yes it can…i think i’m one of the few that use it with success =). Its a bit hard to use cause u need to move and position your tablet the range it cover is very small. Its a very difficult build to use
do understand all the nerf…i personally feel it as well…lots of bug instead of fixing they focus on nerfing rev. I play a warrior and nerco main and recently just switch to rev omfg to my horror its so tough to play. I follow the meta battles shiro/herald build which I got slaughter within 20s in a teamfight. Condi and ventri healing is quite good in spvp although its harder to play. Forget about the old shiro/herald build it does not exist anymore.
seriously ppl are 2 use to power build shiro / herald….i’m seriously having great success with condi rev and especially rev tank/healer spec (i could bunk a pt all day long and provide imba amount of heal to my team)
Condi revenant is indeed not optimal, yet it works not so bad overall, especially in WvW when you meet enemies with high mobility and lots of boon to strip.
Still I agree with most of what you said.
like all argue condi rev does not do the most condi damage but the amount of benefit it bring to team play is sufficient. But however its tough to play compare to power rev because you need to switch stance a lot.
Benefits:
1. Banish Enchantment- Deal damage, apply confusion, and remove boons from your
foe
2. Pain Absorption – Grant resistance to yourself and nearby allies. Absorb conditions
from those allies. Its very good for team play and keeping your team alive
3. condi rev eat power rev for breakfast
Cons:
1. no range condi wep. Not a lot of ppl like the melee playstyle of condi rev and its much harder to play compare to other condi class like ranger, nerco or warrior
2. need to switch between Herald and demon a lot
3. its hard to fight with build that have a lot of cc
4. need to manage your energy bar…
5. people are 2 use of power rev to a point when its been nerf ppl do not know how to pay other spec. I have not lose to a power rev 1 on 1 ever since power rev is nerf
so far i had good result with condi rev….i had reach the higher rank last season. The only class/build i had is with warrior. Warrior currently counter all condi build. Condi rev ability to AOE remove boons and apply confusion is very valuable in team play
to all thief and warrior main:
if you really want anet to buff thief first you must admit thief and war is currently weak and do not play a role in any team but well if you insist to think that thief is ok then good luck to you guys anet will never buff thief. Good luck believing that thief and war is great its op and able to fit a role in spvp
Guys, please, for the love of all that is holy, you have /one/ job in the current meta. That job is not “Jump into the teamfight and get AoE’ed down within seconds.” Like 4 separate thieves on my team today believed.
No you guys are the gods of Decap and Gank. Your job is to go to their home point and make sure it /stops/ giving the enemy team points. When they send someone back to recap it you obliterate them in a 1v1 on the road.
Now I know there are some classes, that even in a 1v1 you guys will have trouble with. So you know what you do? Let them run back far, recap it and when they go to rejoin the teamfight you decap it again. You guys have the potential to single handedly turn a game around or secure a victory, please use it. >.<
This frustrated post brought to you by a necro who went through four seperate losses today were the four seperate thieves he ran with easily fed 30+ points to the enemy team, gave free rezes to their downed and denied us a +1 anywhere for the 15 second respawn.
This is how I get to legendary with ~15 matches of winstreak through diamond division. Playing Shadow Trap s/d build and focusing on super fast decapper and being untouchable in fights. Shadow Trap is buggy, yes, but by the time you’ll learn how and where it works and for me, that did result very sick decaps and baits. Sometime theres an enemy player who gets what you doing, but its not that common and usually mesmer with portal is too slow to notice.
=) I already say thief is OP they dun need buff but a nerf
=) since all the thief thinks that their class is ok and OP…guys just fulfill their wish and say THIEF IS FREAKING OP THEY NEED A NERF. Thanks thief for never admitting your class is weak so anet will never buff thief and I hope thief will forever stay at the bottom opps sorry its stay on top
Accept it thief is already out of meta
maybe pro thief can tell me what role does thief fit into a team:
1. decap ? memser can do better then thief because of portal
2. going far and winning 1v1. No most of the time they lose but memser can win almost any 1v1 with double moa
3. Team fight thief just melt 2 fast
or what else can they do maybe farm downstate and go around saying I got the higher score ya i’m OP =). Well at least your useless counterpart war do better in 1v1 then a thief
That post is way too long to read, but I’ve had more issue with the worthless elementalists. They run a build that does next to no damage, the go try to 1v1 someone on a point they for have, or follow an enemy player around the map.
I rather had a ele that can bunker and heal on point. Current meta bunker ele is needed to win. Maybe I ask you what can warrior does other class cant is there a niche they can fill in a team
nothing new and interesting…its the old burn guard which is pretty useless in high rank spvp…it might be good low rank. Meta DH build will be much much better
hate to say that but thief had been totally replace by a memser heres why?
1.thief use to be very good at 1v1. lets be honest here a good thief verus any good
player playing other class the chance of thief winning is pretty low and even if the
thief win it will take very long
2.Memser will double moa can take down any class almost instantly. hell ya they could
even take down a bunker druid or ele which is impossible for thief
3. Thief is very good with decap its already a yesterday myth. Mesmer portal totally
replace thief decap role
4. Thief bring nothing to group fight whereas memser can condi spam and double
moa a target for the team to focus him down
5. Maybe the only class can take down without a issue is warrior
There’s a reason 70% of player queuing up is reaper…reaper must be tone down
first of all I would say thief is decent and not as bad as war but given a choice I would take a ele, nerco or rev in my team rather then a thief. Like what the previous post had say
if you got a bad nero —-— at least it contribute
If you got a bad ele——- at least it give you decent healing
if you got a bad rec——-at least they are boons bot
if you got a bad druid——at lest they heal and provide some range
if you got a bad thief—— its more or less RIP
memser——it basically replace thief—-what thief can do a memser can do much better and if that memser is running mao its a 80% win 1v1.
The only class I think is worst is war
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seriously cant believe any1 complaining about gold seller in gw2.
If u want to know what is gold seller try blade and soul
1.gold seller pm you every1 min
2. group of 30 botter farming world bosses
3. all chat fill with gold seller promoting their service
4. 80% botter in pvp arena
You dont know what you are talking about if you believe that BnS is better, regardless how slightly.
BnS is as bad, unpolished and over-hyped as ESO was.
It may have been fine game if it was released in ~2008 not 2012… but funny enough not a lot has been fixed nor improved upon its release in EU/NA (2016)
1. PvE is a complete bore-fest questing.
2. Everything looks cheesy (animations, player models).
3. PvP is extremely clunky and imbalanced:
a. Bots, bots and bots.
b. Nearly half of the abilities locks you in place…all tho it promotes itself as ‘’true action combat’’
c. Zero balance between classes, which make little room for ’’skill’’ based PvP.There are several other problems, but
All in all, I ended up regretting wasting time on BnS.
yes totally agree with you I waste quite a lot of money on this game hoping they can fix it.
what i’m ok with
1. i’m ok with bot in open world, ok with bot spamming chat, ok with bot sending my friend request
what i’m not ok with
1. but when bot start to invade dungeon…on a average of 2 dungeon there are around 1 bot in your group
2. bot in pvp arena (i’m playing arena for pvp not pve) arena now is like mushin tower version 2
What cause me to quit Bot and soulless
1. finally manage to get to diamond rank..told myself YES NO BOT but in diamond rank on a average of 5 games I came across 1 hacker….infinite stealth, 0 CD skill, flying hack
2. Best part is I manage to record them send a ticket to support…after 2 weeks they are still there.
3. Brand manager answer in livestream “bot is not our main focus” omfg
its normal to have bot in f2p BUT Bot in arena is A BIG NO for a game that promote base on esport pvp its a ult game breaker. It put a RIP seal on BnS and not only bot the amount of cheat and hacker is worst then archage. They openly hack and cheat in arena and developer just ignore it
I’m also diamond on NA….all you face is player using cheat and hack diamond…maybe EU is a bit better but NA is fill with cheater.
A game that focus on esport actually have bot in arena pvp I call it FAIL
also look at the link on the amount of complain. Please dun play that game I had regretted
Blade and soul:
I would say its fun despite its super grindy gameplay but whats break the game is the developer itself
1.Optimization
worst optimization in the mmorpg history
(a) game dun support window 8 and above (if you are playing on window u get weird FPS drop)
(b) game only support direct x9
2. Bots
(a). Bot in dungeons (on a average u get 2 bot in your team every 2 blue dungeons
you do)
(b)Bot in pvp arena ( from bronze ranking to pla ranking u will fight 90% bot—-from
bronze to pla that’s around 30games if you win almost every match)
© You will see 20-30 bot farming open world boss from early game to end game open
world boss
Cheat and hack
(a) pla rank ans above in pvp arena is 60% cheater to name a few 0 CD skill hack,
infinite stealth hack, flying hack
(b) ncsoft dun even bother to ban them
Gameguard
(a) this anticheat program doesn’t do its job of banning botter or hacker
(b) this programs instead ban player from using mouse marco, player using VPN ping booster program, create log in issue and FPS drop issue
Developer
(a) When u report lag or ping issue they always say its the player fault nothing to do with them
(b) livestream—-player ask why no action is taken on bot issue brand manager say its not serious enough to be the top priority -.-
if you still want to try go ahead
From my experience power reaper isn’t really viable in WvW zergs because as a necro, you gotta sacrifice a lot of defensive stats in order to deal good damage. Going squishy doesn’t really work in the frontline, especially because necro’s lack the blocks and invulns warriors and guards have. Also, the loss of Blood Magic (assuming you’re running Spite/SR/Reaper) will hurt your sustain a bit, not to mention the loss of the reduced well cooldowns.
Condi reaper on the other hand, allows you to go very tanky (Dire/Rabid/Trailblazer) while still dealing sufficient condi pressure. I personally run a variety of the infamous condi signet reaper build used in PvP. Plague Signet is a real life saver, since it can both remove immobs and stun at an instant.
As far a power builds go; base necro allows you to go full zerker and still deal good damage at range, with positioning being your main tool to survival. Keep in mind that post-HoT, you’ll have a hard time vs hammer heralds spamming 2 and chronomancers though, so it’s more risky to play than it used to be.
Agree condi reaper is actually very good the amount of condi reaper can provide is very good and not to forget the constant aoe chill damage that is exclusive only to reaper which none other class have access to
a lot of ppl still have that shallow mindset of how nerco work in wvw. Condi chill reaper work wonder in wvw. Been running that recently with my guild and it definitly destory. You can easily maintain a 100% constant aoe chill. Alot of narrow minded guild so call pro guild don’t even want to put the build to test and outright say its not good. Current backline well-bomber Necro can be easily counter reason is their attacking pattern is very easy to regonize and counter maybe its good verus PUG wvw group but with a well communicated wvw TS group it can easily render it uselss.
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warrior does not bring anything to teamplay what they are good at is stealing kill. At least they are good at phew phew from range. Please stop bringing warrior to rank pvp until anet had buff warrior u guys are making the team lose.
Rev hammer2, druid and bunker tempest is causing the balance issue not dh. I main rev I could destroy dh without effort.
I use to complain DH but to be fair they are not OP…..its actually quite easy to counter. Tempest , druid, rev, etc is more OP
sad but to agree warrior is not vaild in spvp and If you see a warrior its a -1 person. Most warrior i met in spvp say see i top the score board “see i’m quite OP” . For long time pvper we all know that scoreboard dun represent how good u are most of them didnt even know they are been carry. I really hope that anet buff warrior
To be frank actually DD is freaking powerful…I have a guild member that is undefeated in guild…he rekt half of my guild member and most of us had been playing pvp for years. DD is extremely hard to master therefore most DD perform badly in pvp. DD is 1 of the class that is the harder to learn but once master it can be very rewarding, Most good DD don’t really show off their build they are quite low profile.
You mean build that doing 9k dmg with Vault. And spamming 5,5,5,5? Thats really hard to master IMO.
=) tht’s why I say there’s a lot of below average DD. This reply is a good example of a below average DD. Figure out yourself i’m not suppose to share my guild mate build
maybe if ever they want to make it buy elite specs as a la carte maybe make 1 Elite spec 800G.i think that’s fair for those who had already bought HOT
To be frank actually DD is freaking powerful…I have a guild member that is undefeated in guild…he rekt half of my guild member and most of us had been playing pvp for years. DD is extremely hard to master therefore most DD perform badly in pvp. DD is 1 of the class that is the harder to learn but once master it can be very rewarding, Most good DD don’t really show off their build they are quite low profile.
thief DD is actually very strong in pvp…I had seen quite a fair number of DD killing ppl in less then 6s….hell I even see a lot of DD able to kill a reaper or DH really fast. Thief currently is ok It just that those good thief/DD is keeping their meta build to themselves =) and not wanting to share it with ppl. Warrior however is in need of a serious buff =(
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Its funny when tempest just release ppl complain how useless it is and after a while people finally manage to figure out a meta build.
Currently tempest is the new DD….deal higher then average damage yet can bunker against 2-3 player it counter all condi heavy build.
i seriously hate the F2P player….come to think of it there’s no f2p out there. In fact GW2 is the best F2P game out there.
You want to know whats pay2win
1. Archage
2.hearthstone
3. sfgame
4. APB reloaded
That really depend on the build…a bunker druid can face tank a druid easily
before f2p its a p2play game and so if they want to make it buyable for free player they should charge a high amount of gold to purchase a single elite spec of 800gold
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a lot had try but still it wont work..trap bug out always
the only 2 class that’s op rev hammer 2 and DH trap damage…been running into 4 rev and 4 DH premade a lot recently
Let me answer on behalf of all dh player….ther will say l2 dodge. Standard answer by dh I wonder can they give a better ans
Please refer to my previous post and stop saying learn to dodge. 1v1 DH its extemerly easy to win the fight its the bug graphic and extremely annoying skill graphic that is causing the issue
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dear DH player the issue is not learn to dodge or 1v1. In fact DH is not very strong in 1v1. the issue here is team fight, graphic issue
1. in team fight its impossible to dodge here’s why
(a) when 2 team have at least 1 DH when fighting on point you will not know which
trap is friendly or which trap is from the other team
(b) which lead to everyone fighting off point no one dare to enter the cap area cause
cap point is a instant dead zone
2. Skill Graphic
(a) u only need 2 DH in a match to create screen confusion. When 2 DH cast their
trap its impossible to see anything you become instant blind. Best condition in
gw2 it impact the player directly =)
(b) bug graphic…most of the time graphic is bug out we cant see anything
3. Duration of the trap and damage
(a) why? lets say player A DH had cap a pt. He left 1 trap on point and when another
ppl recap the point it will trigger and cause a 1 shot
(b) Tone down the damage by a little maybe a small 5% damage nerf to prevent 1
shot
U serious choro is op. If they are op howwl come I only see on average 2 choro every 3 games but u nv fail to see dh 3 per game.
Revert back the dh to what it is during the final beta weekend it’s pretty balance. Currently its 2 overpower In term of damage, utility and of cause broken graphic making it impossible to dodge
LOL it shud be DH tournament
Agree we should officially name gw2 to DH2
You cant dodge what you cannot see…most of the time the animation is bug out. If you dodge 1, 2 or 3 times but they only need to land 1 trap on you and tht’s it and how is this not OP. Before the final release the last beta DH is actually quite good and competitive in pvp but developer give DH unnecessary buff to trap and graphic and make it overpower. Now not only they had broke the balance of pvp but they also broke the graphic. if you have 1 DH on each team you wont be able to see anything on your screen when fighting on point all u see is a pile of white kitten on pt. All the class is quite equally balance only for DH and maybe a slight balance to druid healing thts about it
I dun think there’s a lot of ppl playing. currently you see quite a decent amount of ppl playing is because they restrict new player to conquest. From rank 1 to 10 you have to play stronghold they have no choice. I already had new player in my guild hating stronghold they cant wait to get to rank 10 and forever dun play stronghold its that bad. Can Anet come out with something decent
1. spirit watch = fail
2. Sky hammer = fail again
3. Stronghold = another fail project
4. WVW = never decent before its even worst now
Summary= can they understand we want pvp not pve. Stop trying to follow dota style of pvp this is gw2 not dota
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Seriously, I just started up with sPvP, and already I’m sick of it. As I understand it, we’re stuck in the same map until rank 10, and every single map there’s at least one guy who just can’t shut up about how we’re all noobs and how he’s doing everything. Meanwhile, I’m playing defense, because apparently nobody else wants to do it, and someones gotta keep the gates up. We’ve got guys running supply and fighting in the center to keep the other team from getting it, and Mr. Toxic is always, ALWAYS running face first into the enemy base and flopping over.
Maybe I’m just an idiot for trying to explain all that to them, but I can only be called a [Bundle of Sticks] so many times before I give up altogether, and I have to wonder, how many other newbies are experiencing this and saying screw it?
Apparantly the rest of the ppl tht post here did not read your thread. In general the pvp I gw2 there’s a lot of player tht think they are the best and when the team is losing it’s not his fault but his team fault. Quickly get to rank 10 get into conquest its better there stronghold is a fail map they are forcing new player to play this map by and hoping u all will like it
TRy doesn’t work…still the same