Guild Wars 2

Would recommend you look for PST guilds vs server.

god save the queen!

If you want fights, pick a server not BG/DB/SOS (think this more ocx than sea though) for sea.

god bless blackgate. making wvw great again.

What are the top 2 classes you guys play? Are you willing to use TS, do you have a mic?

Must be an Anet kitten that moved it, cuz we didn’t list their guilds on it. in our defense we were gonna list [BG]Beastgate as one guild for honorable mentions to appease the anet gods. perhaps next list then.

Weird, why would this be moved to LFG? This is strictly pertaining to wvw. not to mention LFG is for guilds to post what they are looking for. This list provides no reference or recruitment for own guild. but to shed light on others that we’ve come across.

Siege humping is an art form of wvw to itself.

Have you seen them glide in formation from one mortar to another? majestic.

Also the list is only 10, but there were about ~30 guilds to choose from a pool, and everyone was allowed to add to the pool. But each member was only allowed 2 votes and couldn’t vote for same one twice.

Our list was formed through a voting system. So it wasn’t a single player’s personal opinion. It was around 35+ guild members voting. There are obviously 1/2 troll votes in there that made the rankings. But we will let the reader figure that out.

Map queue, omniblobbing, ajam, driver sniping, siege humping, siege creeping, small team roaming that encountered during off raid, (basically any dirty aspect that we hate in wvw) were allowed to be factors.

basing a guild on their tier was a joke in 2017. Bless Anet for linkings to shatter the misconception of top tier skill.

after last week with YB, I believe there will be some votes for [FoW] in the future. That is a very very effective defensive and ninja guild.

BG is anet’s posterboy for what WvW should be. Anet can’t let them lose, how would they make their wvw promotional videos without BG’s constant coverage? Just beat the game and retire on BG.

Druids can provide support, not many guilds use them. not to mention good support druids in wvw are a rarity.

The buffs are based on 5 person caps. parties get priority, but limited in range. not the whole squad. so if that 5 person party isn’t near the guardian for stability (probably the biggest complaint in any fight), the stab gets moved to someone in the squad.

currently standard parties consist of 2 guardians as their core to maintain stability. the other 3 spots are used for core classes to give them most effective ways of pushing.

Pensadora.9478:

So much context missing here. Size guild runs, whether also holding hands with zerg and calling themselves ‘fight’ , or will fight alone, timezone, whether they will work with new and returning players, server, server status, contact information.

For new and returning players, please visit the Recruitment/LFG section of these forums and peruse the postings there. You’ll find actively recruiting guilds have taken the time to post information you’ll need there.

Ask in Map chat what decent guilds are on your current server, or link. The players know which they’d recommend as standup fight squads that have a good reputation on your server.

Check them all out. Run in their comms and evaluate both their community and their claims.

Good luck and welcome to WvW!

That was brought up in our inclusion/exclusion criteria. Which we will reserve and refine over time.

But we said, regardless of group size, ajam, siege humping, omniblob, driver sniping, etc. As all of these are viable tactics in wvw.

Who were the toughest guilds we fought that made an impact on the field? At the end of every week, our guild usually looks at skirmish scores, KDR, PPK, t3 structures flipped or held.

Would like to thank anet for adding the skirmish system and server links. Which allowed us to fight guilds up and down tiers. This would’ve been a much better system pre 2017 when we were in our prime, but wvw is still enjoyable nonetheless.

We had a sea contingent for most of 2017, hence why some of the sea guilds made it in there. Our members were each given 2 votes each regardless of timezone played.

Respectfully, [BOO] was one that I personally felt should’ve made it on the list. They were only a few votes shy.

Secondly, there are deserving guilds but this wasn’t a participation vote for fan favorites and based on guilds we’ve faced, so of course it’s biased.

Lastly, This is a tribute to all the guilds we’ve fought in 2017, that we’ve hunted or have been hunted.

Most importantly, hopefully this sheds light for POF and future wvwers looking to fight with or against some of the best.

GvG is not a supported form of pvp so it was based on WvW engagements. Not to mention, GvG has it’s own clique and unique playstyle to itself.

they could be dead, but they were among the best small teams out there. they made guilds they supported 10x harder via driver snipe and ganking. To the point that we had to dedicate 3-5 guys from our main comp to counter gank.

can we get an update on the diagrams regarding population change every relink? it would be in wvw’s best interest to stay informed.

when in doubt, join blackgate. that’s how you beat the game.

Find a mediocre friendly guild on your server to join for wvw. one that raids maybe 5-10hrs/week. Progress up to the more hardcore guilds that run group comps and in groups of 15-25 ish. Shouldn’t be too hard to identify your A guilds from your C guilds on each server. WvW becomes alot more enjoyable when you find a good crew to run with.

every war has downed state, that’s why we have medics and disabled vets. thank you for enlightening us with your failed understanding of history.

Guild growth and progession:

PvX guild—>roaming guild—>WvW Fight guild—>GvG guild—>Dead Guild—>Snowflake forum guild.

DeWolfe.2174:

Euryon.9248:

The fundamental conflict here is between people who value different things in wvw: “server identity” vs competitiveness/balance.

How does one truly have a competition when the Dev’s set who wins and loses by manipulating populations? Mostly by linking and locking Worlds. And, when they start showing us not just queues but, actual active map populations, then I’ll think they may care about competition.

The devs aren’t manipulating population. The players faux sense of balance competition is the cause of population imbalance since day 1. The links have been nothing but a blessing and prove that higher tier =/= higher skill. It just shows that higher tier = more fair weathers, plays the game as intended better (siege humping t3 structures and map hopping), or more poop sock commandos.

All “fight guilds” do these days is stack on a server so they can give each other reach arounds and pat each other on the back for ajamming pug tags on NA. Or goto guild base to gvg because pugs humped that t3 smc and they can’t remember how to fight in anything but a giant circle.

StrawHat.2639:

Would people stop with this discussion…linked servers are pretty much a roaming population servers except on resets and they wouldn’t be able to revert to being alone again.

Am in one of them and except for NA prime it would be pretty much dead. Linking killed a lot of the population and guilds of said linked servers but its to late to revert back again.

I don’t want to find myself alone during off hours since I don’t want to just roam in WvW but a balance of all aspects.

The queues have pretty much died out even in ebg except NA prime weekends for the link am in. Our link feels on life support these days if not for Kasumi’s rallies and stuff.

In the end for the one reason, I’d like to revert back to single servers so I can recruit more easily peps and geps but the above just makes it impossible to revert.

our link needs a hero and i think it could be you strawhat! I seen you stab 1 and 2. Get those rangers on your shoulders and carry them to t1! The pop is there for all links. The primary issue to get that pop back out (CD in particular).

1) Fresh Tags willing to learn, grind it out, and not get emo out after 1 wipe. Lots of tags spam join TS. let’s be honest here, there’s probably only 1 guild per server that you need TS. most of the time, the tags just try to run from one end of the map to another on a push screaming bomb or water for 30s and not realizing there are cooldowns on those. Then you get the fresh tags, that won’t run a commander zerg busting class (guard, necro, warrior, or even rev).

2) Whatever vet tags left to train. Tedious process, most of us have been playing this for 3+ years and it’s just not worth it.

3) Poopsock commander solves all the problems too. don’t even have to be good, just play all day and get back up.

Chaba.5410:

shiri.4257:

The GUILD is your identity. focus on that, you will have fun. server pride? there’s probably only 5 people on each server with server pride and 3 of them don’t login when you’re losing. Exception is Magswag, they have about 7.

Pugging is dead. Long live pugging!

I am pug, hear me RAWWRRRR!!

The GUILD is your identity. focus on that, you will have fun. server pride? there’s probably only 5 people on each server with server pride and 3 of them don’t login when you’re losing. Exception is Magswag, they have about 7.

There’s probably about 5 players on each server with server pride. 3 of them don’t login when they are losing the matchup.

They could just make the resources be wvw related ie: memories of battle, heavy loot bags, badges of honor/tribute, etc. Shoot they could even make it per color. I bet alot of guilds be out their farming wvw to get it too.

500 memories of battle
500 badges of tribute
500 heavy loot bags

be like 1-2week work for a 15-25 piece guild. for each color.

everytime a gvg happens, another player quits. that’s why they call them scrims now! so everyone is a winner!

Perhaps check out [FoC]. Some guilds also use a server discord. you can check it out on www.crystal-desert.com

is this the special snowflakes thread?

End game WvW is insulting pve snow flakes. Get your 2k rank and embrace the light with us.

TS is relative to who the commander and who they are fighting. I don’t think TS is mandatory for half the fights these days. Outside of trying to siege a t3 keep with 50 + nerds humping it.

I’m kinda with the OP, TS has its advantages if used correctly and overall can be a terrible exerpience. It’s also not limited to just a server (CD) in this case and I’m on CD playing on and off.

When I want to raid seriously with my guys, I expect them on TS and the squad is invite only to pugs we’ve known and trust that can move with us. Alot of us use mini maps to re position. So having wrong people in squad that are squirrelling throws things off. Then on the other hand, we haven’t even had to use serious coms or any coms when I just tag up for giggles since wvw revival 2k17 patch.

Seen too many people cry to get on TS and it’s just a a bunch of virgin emo kids looking for a social hour. Or you go the other end of the spectrum buncha grumpy old retirees talking about what kind of the latest adult pampers was just released. Listened in on a bunch of new commanders on TS the past couple weeks. I would say 80% of them are only good before a fight and stutter in silence once the first bomb goes off. And that goes for their own players too.

TLDR: TS coms aren’t what they used to be when guilds and players actually took WvW fights seriously.

find a zerg busting guild, find the enemy karma train, zerg bust with outmanned buff. beat the game, praise anet.

you get more wxp if you can farm the enemy zerg vs trying to ktrain. Bring a guardian lootstick, rev hammer, or necro. ez game ez life git gud.

Anet could just do a random week here and there for Double the Weekly Ticket Cap. Then pass it as wvw support and events. No need to lower it, work with it. Pretty sure if you just announce random events like this it will cause some wvw population pulses. it’s just a matter of timing for such events. Or even something as Double WXP week. just not do it all at once so you can spread it out and call it wvw support.

I got yo back anet, now send me precursors.

Anet WvW devs that developed this deserve a raise. or at least buy them a pint. A few minor tweaks and we’re heading in the right direction. Just don’t tweak the 2k rank. If anything add a double xp event for rank gainings or something for a week or sell wvw rank boosters.

Dunno about that 50man problem. We were able to get 6 guardians on map and 20in squad. with staff 1 and autorun through zergs. game is just as easy at it was in 2013! well done anet!

SkyShroud.2865:

Bouffle.5719:

The scary part is CD (CD!) had queues of 80/8/12/14 in the middle of EU time, from the smallest server on NA. (Also, thanks for the bags JINX)

CD is never small and since I was from CD, I always known CD has a big dormant population so I am always annoyed when some CDers like to tell others they are smaller when occasionally, it field map blobs outside NA.

HOD is actually the smallest server out of all host servers, this update patch only give us at best 2 map queues.

HOD just has commanders that are ktrain commandos. Don’t get mad, please revert.

tell Anet you’re a top tier pveer. Proceed to complain how it’s unfair and too difficult to get ranks in wvw. they will dumb down wvw even more with this method in a couple weeks.

SgtOVERKILL.4701:

I am with a guild that hops servers looking for fights against other servers every new pairing. Rewards are now more of an incentive to play than ever, which may give us permanent residence some where. Will this start when the patch drops or will this start from the last time you moved?

Guilds still transferring around under the premise of finding fights? No worries, Anet added a wvw LFG function. Just specify— “Fight guild—Looking For another Guild to Nuthug”

jamesdolla.3954:

Duke – Maguuma

Bannok – SBI

Nacho – Maguuma

What a traitor. Where’s your Xushin statue?

Anet doesn’t cause matchup problems. EU allowed this to happen due to poor immigration policies. you let NA players into your server, your homes, and your kittens. Should’ve built that wall now you will live with them among your ranks. OUI OUI!

10/10 protips, good post.

#magswag, long live wvw.

i got you jamesdolla

WvW died because nerds like you think ranking on the ladder actually means something. The Tier 1 ranking doesn’t differentiate a guild or individual’s skill level. but rather it’s been a coverage game for 4years and continues to be. unless anet cuts down wvw times to like 4hrs on and 2 hrs off to minimize the amount of off hour ktrain available. or they just focus into like 2 major time zones for wvw 6hrs of NA and 6 hours of sea.

Linkings have only confirmed alot of guilds and players in the t1/t2 bracket were just as crap as their own in wood league. Only big whoopee about t1/2 guilds were that there were more of them to nuthug and give each other reach arounds. The only difference of why they were in higher tiers was due to if you had sea/ocx population vs your enemy.

I can only imagine the QQ for unlink is to have more dead hours to ktrain and chest thump not so much competitive play. The only saving grace wvw has for the few guilds that stand alone are api websites that track wvw stats for the time frame that your guild raids and do a self measurement. Other than that, have fun trying to stack more tiers.

dunno why you’re looking for gvg style guilds. Most of them get rolled by pug blobs now a days and scream for ajams to support them. they eventually just reform in 2-3months and reform anyways, different tag, with new swag.

Anet doesn’t control fairweathers. The T1 culture of hibernating and coming out to ktrain is the players fault. One week BG is crying it has no pop. Another week they got 24/7 map queues. lulz

no worries mate! T1 still has the largest pop of hibernating fairweathers that think they’re actually good at the game! You just gotto get that ktrain hat on! or label it as a “Fight Guild” like all the other cool rejects have been doing for the past 4 years!

RIP T0 dreams, RIP xushin, RIP Hunk

Sea fights getting intense. Join the fight with any of these guilds on their relative servers! Welcome [AHMA] to CD sea and [TFV] back to DB.

CD/gom: [VII][AHMA][MGR]
DB: [TFV][NNK][RF][AZ][Asia]
HOD/SF: [TIME][WOR][ASIA][BANA]
SBI: [AOD?][SUPR]]LC] come back and rotate baby.

[VII] Late NA recruitment:
-Guardians
-Elementalists

[VII] Sea recruitment:
-Guardians
-Necros
-Revs

This is a good start Mckenna. The metrics are not perfect but makes sense, a few other variables to tweak will be good. Also keeping us blind on the actual algorithm is good too, prevents manipulation as has been in the past.

Ask anet for a raise, would give you a 9/10 recommendation

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Its pretty much the complete opposite of the original intent of WvW tiers. Anet are treating us like babies that cant handle defeat.

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This is true though. that’s why people transfer.