Guild Wars 2

Why is your playtime worth more than someone else that isn’t in you time zone?

Svarty.8019:

blade eyes.2034:

3. (Guild castles and decoration) Guild halls are cool, but I would love if we can claim our own castle in WvW and be able to decorate it for as long as we hold it + add more awesome castles similar to “Stonemist Castle <3”.

I really like this one. If I were to implement it, I would give player decorations a set number of hit points, so they could perhaps build huge barricades of junk behind doors or whatever.

That one has been mentioned a few times over the years. They could do it the minimal way and have pre-made decorated structures, you pick a theme and when you claim something it changes over to that theme. Themes like having a haunted halloween tower, a more medieval looking keep, north pole looking castle with ice block walls, even the eotm keeps have their own themes you could use, etc.

They could sell those themes on the gem store if they wanted like the finishers, and would give guilds a more personal and fun touch to their claims. Speaking of which they could have done a better job with the flags and banners that fly the guild crest on claims, showing the abbreviated guild names which I would think would provide a lil extra pride to the guilds.

For a game that’s about looks they sure don’t bother to explore that much, here’s another outfit and wings.

Players go to EBG because you can get into the action faster, since everything is closer and there’s that big castle in the middle which attracts fights like flies to honey.

Making the borderlands worth more points isn’t going to bring back small scale havoc groups because ppt isn’t the problem there, it’s the junk the expansion forced into the game is what holds back those groups, stuff like emergency waypoints, watch tower, guild cata increased cost etc are things that made small groups useless.

Besides as others have mentioned, if the blobs are already on EBG, that leaves more room to get small stuff done on the borderlands, trying to take their keeps is what gets their attention.

Lastly, there aren’t that many that want to command, hence why most times you only see one tag around on a map and why you see one blob running around, unless it’s prime time and multiple guilds are running.

If you feel the need to change the best wvw map (voted on by the players that choose it over the other maps almost every kitten night with queues), in order to make other maps look attractive to play on, then there’s problems on those maps you should be making suggestions on and not trying to break EBG.

kefro.9312:

If you arent on the server whos winning and you are thinking of giving up ppt to let them go to tier 1, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A BAD TIME.

If you think your current situation is bad imagine if a real tier 1 server drops to your tier, if i was you i would 1vs2 them and push hard because if you let a tier 1 server drops its gg!

Not sure what the point is with your post.

1. Everyone knows it’s going to be bad that’s why 15+ guilds have already left the tier.
2. FA and SoS have had a long rivalry that wouldn’t allow an alliance for very long, they tried multiple times.
3. YB is over stacked, the T1 guilds moved there to break the T1 barrier whether it was going to take 3 weeks or 3 months.
4. Don’t worry eventually FA and SoS will drop to T3 and two unlucky T3 servers will take their place and the blob cycle will continue.
5. YB destroyed T2 finally, congratulations, you won the game.

Well, I can see what they intended with these changes now, to keep first time players playing for a longer period of time they wanted to speed up levels 1-15 (Should have mentioned this in the blog). To compensate for that they also moved skill unlocks to later levels, in order to spread it out and not overload the first time player with information, yet keep them engaged with leveling.

The problem is they moved some needed skills and even traits too high up in levels, there are still dead zones and now some of the early levels are tedious with skills missing until later. If this was all intended for just the first created character on an account and then you wouldn’t have to worry about it on alts, then that’s fine. If you intended this for every single newly created alts, then it’s a terrible system.

As for retention, I think Anet choose the wrong area to focus all their efforts into. WoW didn’t get 12 million accounts because they redid their leveling experience, which was worse than gw2, they got it by the word of mouth of their existing customers. Who by 1.5 years after release had an expansion with two new races, new zones, new dungeons, new raids, new pvp content. They provided a lot for both new and veteran players, which further reinforced the veterans to encourage their friends to play.

The gw2 starter experience could have used tweaks for sure, but not the complete overhaul it got. The end game of gw2 suffered because development time went into the new player experience and china release, and now not even veterans can recommend the game because of that, we all lose in the end. There’s a huge lake of mmo players waiting to be hooked into gw2, it’s too bad Anet decided to go fish in the nearby pond instead.

drcraig.9403:

Everyone one who isn’t on BG claims BG is too stacked. I play on BG and have to say more often than not the odds are very close. Stop the excuses and play better. Nobody was complaining when YB pvd’d their way into 1st place month after month. It isn’t BG / ET fault they have the best commanders and the best soldiers.

Almost choked on my drink while reading this. Obviously someone hasn’t played anywhere but on BG lol.

Vayne.8563:

Okay I’m making it up. Go on reddit, ask some Chinese players if the compass works fine in China. Then you can get that information.

Went searching for the hell of it… This is kinda funny.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/20f1gk/ongoing_riots_in_chinese_gw2_community/

Firelysm.4967:

DanteZero.9736:

It could be much, much worse than what is going on right now. At least there’s an option to pay for gems with gold, some mmo devs don’t even allow that option.

I dont want to pay it with GEMS or GOLD, they deserve neither, i want to earn it in game.

But then how would they make any money so you can play for free?

The game is already free to download and play. There are some restrictions with those accounts, but you get full content access to the core game. You’re asking them to sort through millions of accounts to give 10 people a free game? Then turn around 9 hours later and berate them for not complying with your request?

Alsopleasefortheloveofgod, usespaceafterpunctuationmarks. Happyholidays!

Pfft dunno why people complaining, game looks balanced.
Also thief needs a buff please, stealth skill should be hitting harder.
Thank you.

Aeolus.3615:

They wont fix class balance, can you imagine how most of the bad players being carried by the gimmick build on their class crying “omg now i have to learn how to play cant win with this build, i should win with this build” ????

Haven’t you guys noticed that any class balance changes happen only because of spvp? The pve side which wvw falls under does not matter, cause you know esports.

They changed the trait system multiple times because they figured a lot of players didn’t know any better and were using terrible builds, that’s why they streamlined it so you make less mistakes in creating your build.

I’m thinking we should be asking why servers were disabled, but I know we won’t get an answer to that. Were they downsizing the server farms or something like switch hardware, but why do that on a friday.

reddie.5861:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z91H8Sdk7I

there u go 1 error/lucky interupt and thief is done.
thats what u never see, cus who cares if a thief dies he didnt harm u and what doesnt harm u doesnt need a nerf.

So many things wrong with that short clip. Obviously if you run away from a zerg on foot without using skills you’re going to get run over, you had more than enough time to chain port away and use stealth. Instead you ported once and turned around to face the zerg again while your commander was still running. You don’t have to turn your character around to look behind you, the camera is separate from your movement. Getting interrupted once and then dead to a zerg is not something unique to thieves.

Now you think that’s bad for a thief imagine the other classes getting left behind and don’t have port or stealth to get away, you have both those tools and didn’t bother to use them.

Maybe instead of working on more siege stuff they should switch to QoL changes if possible.

Justine.6351:

People want wvw ascended vendors for some reason beyond me.

People want spvp ascended vendors for some reason beyond me.

SkyShroud.2865:

Corrections, off hours guilds do ditch server but way less frequent compare to NA’s due to the stingy nature (of not wanting to “waste” gems). However, off hours do fair weathered a lot (though they call that looking for “better” fight but in reality just looking for easy fights) thus off hours individuals tend to stack on servers.

Of course they do, but not to the magnitude that NA guilds do it, basically emptying out the entire time zone. DB, SoS, JQ have all maintained strong off hours since release.

Pfft people weren’t moving to your servers when you were open, they were leaving, so not a big deal anyways.

Justine.6351:

Xenesis.6389:

Justine.6351:

Soooo…
Why do we need vendors that require crafting when we can already just craft the gear?

Soooo…
Why do we need vendors in fractals, raids, spvp when we can already just craft the gear?

I don’t know, I’m not the one who begged anet to add in these stupid vendors for top tier gear that was originally added in because exotic gear was stupid easy to get. After spvp season 5 screw up now everyone is all in a frenzy to have ascended gear become the new exotic gear in their game mode because of it. Two wrongs doesn’t make a right.

NO MORE!
WE DRAW THE LAST LINE HERE!
YOU SHALL NOT HAVE A VENDOR!

And there we have it. 3 out of 4 end game modes have access to ascended drops and vendors but now you’re concerned for ease of access, so you want to screw over wvw because of that. Even though the cost for them are still pretty high, with the exception of one spvp season which they fixed.

People are not in a “frenzy” over it, wvw is the only game mode left that doesn’t have it and one thread in here about it isn’t a frenzy, frenzied talk right now is ghost thieves. I’m not one who begged for them either, I don’t think they should have it, but I don’t think it’s too much asking for equal consideration for wvw now.

Your personal opinion of how easy it is to get, is no reason why wvw shouldn’t get ascended vendors, sorry it isn’t, especially when one other game mode that has absolutely no use for it, gets it, and is being used as a prize to draw pve players in there, which btw wvw could also use.

You may think it’s wrong to have those vendors, but it doesn’t matter, Anet has put them in, they think it’s fine and went in that direction for access. They have the power to change the cost and time needed to get them, which they’ve already shown to do. Thinking that the cost is going to be a problem because “badges” is not a legitimate concern unless it does actually happen, but we see how they operate, how much they love to add another currency to earn something, crafting will now also been included I’m sure.

People put in the time to play their favorite game mode from fractal, raids, spvp, they get the chance to earn the top gear in the game, one mode has a higher drop rate, one other has no use for them but gets a vendor, so why should wvw not get one?

I’m asking for all game modes to be treated fairly, wvw is always last in consideration for everything. You’re going to into elitist territory in wanting to hold it back from wvw now.

Hadn’t been following the thread, interesting discussions.
But kitten it Mal time to bust out the flow charts up in here!

TW doesn’t gvg, they don’t have the right comp on… at any time.
Dods will do pugblob vs pugblob if you want tho.
Also if you want gvg probably should look at GS instead.

Can you guys imagine if this current wvw team was working on wvw for the past 3 years?
Anyways… Time slice scoring! YAY!

Time Slice Scoring.
I’m in favor of this method of scoring to keep it fair for everyone in every time zone. Not sure if maybe 2 hours is a bit short as I was always thinking of maybe 6 hour slices, but the 2 hour window will definitely make everyone’s playing time worthwhile and matter to scoring.

Action Level – Victory Point Multiplier.
I’m not in favor of this and don’t really think it is needed with the time slices scoring in place, which that alone should be able to mitigate runaway overall scores. Not even the NA populations on every server have the same length of prime time so again this might favor servers like BG who have bigger and better coverage than everyone else. If people really feel the need to add this in then I would only look at 2x multiplier during prime hours, and 1x for the rest of the time. But again I don’t feel it’s needed.

Last Stand
I agree with this mechanic to keep matches interesting at the end of the week.

Reduced the Score Tick Timer from 15 minutes to 5 minutes.
I’m in agreement with this, it would help smaller populations and quick strike captures with small teams would be much more meaningful.

Upgraded Objectives Score Higher.
I don’t really agree with this point as higher population servers have a better chance to hold their structures over lower population servers. This could help create runaway scores in a time slice.

Points for Capture.
I agree in giving higher points for capturing an upgraded structure. I know this point and the one above go hand in hand, but my thinking is higher population servers already have the advantage, and there’s no point in handing over bonus points to them every 5 mins. But higher points for something that would normally take 3 hours to upgrade? that would be ok, they would basically only get bonus points once in that time slice for it.

Points for Kill.
I agree with these changes.

Thank you Tyler B and the Wvw team!

It’s been suggested already, but doubt they would change it.

The +5 aura being placed at the end of the aura lines is ridiculous, but they did it because they knew how important it is. Now they force players to work through the guildhall upgrades to get it at level 37, otherwise most guilds would just get the +5 and whatever else needed to upgrade to claim keeps(level 22) and be done with upgrading.

WvW upgrades really should have heavily relied on wvw materials for upgrading, like add wvw only materials to upgrade in heavy loot bags or sentries and camp npcs (not wall structured npcs that would turn into a ktrain). Why such a heavy emphasis on pve to upgrade wvw only upgrades? when they admit they want to keep wvw rewards as measly as they are. Don’t even get me started on scribing being a ridiculously expensive part of upgrades now.

They do whatever they can to keep spvp players playing spvp, yet they don’t seem to want to do the same for wvw.

I feel like… this should be in the pve section… for some reason… hmm…

Anyways, the change that needs to happen to OS in general..
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/QoL-Request-for-Obsidian-Sanctum/first#post6515888

All game related stuff from official Anet staff should be posted on your official forums or website, period. Obviously game promotions get posted anywhere.

If you want to spread the word on multiple fronts in different languages, then fine do so, but post the information on your own official forums/website first.

Does Anet really not understand the damage that is being done to community relations when you ignore your forums and go post on outside forums? It’s ridiculous that players have to go scavenger hunt for information on other sites.

They had a date for the CDI, maybe they realized it would have been insulting to have a CDI about future tournaments while we still haven’t been given our rewards for this past one (fixed today).

In any case, I think most wvw’er view CDI’s as useless as it seems nothing much has come from them at this point.

Jski.6180:

And you leave to nothingness there are simply no good rvr games out there and will not be for some time. That because RvR is not easy to get right its very hard to add new things with out creating major balancing problems. You must play for the fights or your going to burn out for rvr and pvp over all not just for gw2 but all games.

Meh sometimes you just have to change it up and take a break from rvr too. Combat and balance is too messed up in the game to even enjoy fights anymore. Stealth will always be broken, condition vs power damage separation, the imbalance and separate ways to have to deal with them is showing major flaws to me.

My small guild also got hit, having to grind out upgrades we already had, grind out the other upgrades all in pve, plus all the wvw changes that affected small guilds gameplay, a year later the guild is fully upgraded but drop dead.

Yeah their isn’t much in choices for rvr games at the moment, but there are choices in other competitive areas, would imagine a chunk of wvw players moved to games like overwatch and eso.

There isn’t even anything major to look forward to for wvw, nothing, nada.

T1 servers will hammer the T2 servers because of population differences, moreso when players get their 10 meta achieve for the season reward and then move to teso.

The only chance the bottom 3 servers have is if there’s some sort of double team with another T2 when matched with a T1 server, but that will never happen lol, too much hate for SoS from FA, TC, MAGS.

DeWolfe.2174:

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Map still isn’t going away.

funkyazn.9062:

Edit: just had a thought, I don’t know why we didn’t see it before. They did almost the exact same thing during beta of GW2. BUY THE GAME…but we just don’t know when it will be done. kitten , this community (myself included) just loves being slap in the face.

But the difference was we knew it was a new game that would have a lot of content, so forking up $60-150 wasn’t a problem.

We don’t even know how much content will be in HoT, I highly doubt even as much as 1/4 as the original release, and yet we will have to pay almost as much?

I really would not have had a problem paying $40 for the expansion alone, I mean really why should I get screwed on a $10 account just bought a couple months ago? and I only even did that as a reward to them for announcing the expansion, I should have just waited for the full package instead. If I buy the package now I might as well just open a new account with it.

I paid for the latest wow expansion at $60, got a ton of content, garrison, new zones, new dungeons, new raids, new pvp map, a free character boost. That was worth the cost. Existing based game accounts were also upgraded with all the previous expansions for free, that’s how you reward veteran accounts and encourage them to get the latest expansion.

Stop overlooking your current customers in another grab for new customers Anet, get a clue already, you can make both parties happy.

Keviin Snow.5760:

BTW ANET , taking waypoint from Keep
totally Dislike
I though this patch was gona be more FUN , EASY ???
had to wait to get waypoint ? what the hck

That’s how it was for 3 years….. and people were fine with it. It’s actually more meaningful as you now have to work on getting that way point and when you do, that keeps become even more important to defend and hold… if you don’t want to run from spawn every time that is.

I personally hated the new hot system for it.

Couple things could be added.

Dec 2014:
PPK and removal of white swords tested for a month, afterwards no word on PPK until a year later.

July 2015:
Golem-Rush Event, filled will bugs and exploits.
Blueprints could be duplicated, the golem supercharge buff which gave 100% more damage to golems and players would sometimes bug out and remain on players outside of golems, leading to a lot of “easy” killing. Not one word was said by Anet during this time, nor were any fixes implemented, the event was allowed to run it’s course despite many calls in the forums to shut it down early.

Aug 2015:
Changed server population status to only count active wvw players.

Balancing and glitch fixes are currently scheduled for the 10 year anniversary date of August 28th 2022, although with the power outage they had on Monday, it will now be pushed back to August 29th 2023.

In the meantime please enjoy the tonic balancing.

Diku man, no offense, but I find your post hard to read with the over use of line breaks and bolding and capitalization. You gotta clean up the format to present your ideas, use the bullet list or something.

How would you guys solve stacking and population problems? Again seeing people screaming about it but not offering any solutions. Many servers only queue up one map a night (other than BG oh boohoo), so it’s not like anyone feels like they need to move for those reasons.

The top 12 servers are currently locked, if someone wants to stack a server they have to transfer to the lower servers linked to them.

They’ve left it to players and players obviously don’t care enough to help balance this situation, despite people coming in here to complain about it. Fact of the matter is most players want action, they also want an easier time getting it, so they will stack dominating servers.

So what would you have them do? Lower map populations and force queues on them so people consider moving? Offer free transfer to funnel players from the locked servers to lower servers? Actually merge servers and forever destroying 12 NA servers?

Free transfers in the beginning helped unbalance the situation, but even if the free transfers weren’t around there were servers that were already stacked coming out of beta. The tournaments helped unbalanced this situation as well, free transfers and players wanting to stack winning servers, those won’t be back, and the servers who benefited the most with those free transfers aren’t exactly top tier servers right now either.

You know what, at this point I don’t even know why they bother having this as a competition of 12 servers and glicko for ratings, it’s time to break the tiers apart for more specialized play.

Unlink the T8 servers from T1.
Make the old T8 a tier by itself which will be a good home for roamers and small teams, for players who want to be a part of a smaller community.

Make a new tier for gvg’s, the old T2/3.
3 servers where the glicko doesn’t matter, offer free transfers to these servers, but a transfer fee to move. Gvg guilds get a place to play without needing points, without needed glicko, get alpines, ebg, OS for open areas to do random/planned fights.

The remaining 12 servers, merge the bottom 9 with their links. Rename all servers, reset glicko or remove it and do one up one down.

Terrible idea? then stop complaining and come up with your own.

Getting the first revamped Tequalt kill and winning the first tournament didn’t help the bandwagon to the server? They were probably even the first ones to create a council to buy guilds over for the server. Even my small havoc guild was invited to move there.

BG has no doubt been very organized and they have many players loyal to the server which has kept them intact, but yeah I’m sure a great many went there to be on the “winning” server too. Where even if they were losing it wouldn’t be a bad week.

They don’t even have enough staff to work on the current game and the next expansion, where are they going to get the staff to work on another game? Don’t expect gw3 unless the next expansion bombs in sales.

Sarika.3756:

The sad part is that there is a specific set of forum posters who are most likely to derail a thread from something constructive into match-up. They often add jabs at whichever server they don’t particularly like, and that stirs the pot. Maybe it’s not just the threads that need a time out, but some of the posters most likely to derail things down the match-up rabbit hole?

Admittedly I’m one of those trolls. Although my post tend to post facts with side jabs. Frankly I’m tired of seeing the same threads about certain servers show up here, or the weekly thread on tournaments which every single time ends up with like 20 replies of why not. The ones who need a break are the ones posting exactly what Gaile came here to post about, we see it every week, enough already.

VladR.9827:

Ara.4569:

Can’t you, pro players, protest ? Like both teams of each match refusing to fight ?

You could still have a winner by running internal matches to determine the team that will cap a point on stream. That would require trust, while there’s money to win, so I don’t expect much…

But I expect absolutely nothing from Anet for the next 2 months, and that’s just infuriating.

this! +1

CANT YOU PRO PLAYERS JUST GO ON STRIKE?! – all of you make an agreement and just demand a fix?

Anet is clearly ALL about the money so this will hit them the most – the kittening wake up call ANET !

What I would find funny and would make a statement is if all teams ran 5 bunker mesmers or 5 condition revenants, would be embarrassing to Anet for slacking on balance patches.

But that won’t ever happen cause…
Money.

Jski.6180:

The nerf to meteor shower for non player targets is huge because siege counts as non player targets. I hope this is an over sight on there end or there simply no way to counter siege unless you use siege (still waiting on my dam deployable mortar for a real counter tool.)

This is the END of dmg ele in wvw.

They did it because of raid bosses, so you can finally blame pve and their raids for that nerf.

NA Gold league cuts off at the top 6…
So no SoR won’t be in gold.

lil devils x.6071:

That isn’t all of what actually happened.

I didn’t exactly want to write a novel of everything that has happened, just skimmed the time from a stable to an unstable T1.

P.S I was in that YB hell in T2 while I was on SoS, when it came to a point where no guild wanted to bother with YB, even holding our hills on our bl for days, hell we had to rely on friends from FA to help us break YB stuff.

Edit: apparently T 1 together is a kitten word here.

You guys sure you weren’t dropping supply traps instead. XD

Also should have blast light fields, it can save a life.

We’ve been asking that question since the beginning of the game, you won’t get an answer for it. Best guestimates could put it around 75-100 per side.

Unless they changed it lately… yes they do, pretty funny to see someone go into stealth and their mini is still running around, well shucks I wonder where he went.

Sophie.6098:

LOL Xenesis, you have jokes too, you must work for Anet.

Lol XD
I would get fired within the hour of being hired by them for complaining about wvw.

They have to keep some randomness to it, otherwise you’ll get people complaining they don’t get to play the other colors, why are we stuck on red for 6 weeks now!.
Well… use to mostly get those complaints when world completion had to be done in wvw, but not anymore.

Cephas.4293:

And now we aren’t bored, what we did worked better than expected. We have a force actively pushing against us and the fighting is amazing. We are having more fun in the game than we have in a long long time.

And all it took was splitting a server community to achieve it!

Sommazzatore.8367:

All these kitten morons ‘Your q spot is not more important than mine" wahwahwah. Like, come on. That’s not what this is about and if you didn’t have the reading comprehension of a 7 year old you’d know you are just being asked to go to OS so that your play style doesn’t hamper MANY other people. OS dueling means no one interrupting your dueling, no long runs back to your dueling spot, and no mistaking a solo person or duo passing by as duelers. Stop being so sensitive and closed off to such a simple suggestion that assists everyone in playing more efficiently. You are seriously children if this is too difficult.

Oh yeah I’m sure they’ll follow up on your suggestion after throwing out so many insults.

Know what this all sounds like? Those achievement hunters our HoT maps seriously screw up our meta events, they need to leave and go into another instance!

Play your own game and stop worrying about others, your way of playing is not the only way wvw. I also paid for the game so I will kitten well will play where I want, whenever I want, and if that means going into ebg primetime with a 75 man queue so I can go roleplay make out with my girlfriend in dredge tunnel ain’t nothing you can do about it!

The Gates Assassin.9827:

Soulstar.7812:

What are the reward drops for bosses?

Blues and greens? I need to know if I am wasting time with this.

If you are playing this for rewards, don’t, and go do dungeons. If you are here for hardcore content, welcome to the party.

How about if you’re only playing for fun then go back to playing chess or checkers or monopoly or whatever board game that’s fun. Nothing wrong in wanting rewards to upgrade or showoff on your character, especially if you expect people to continue doing content multiple times. Since the beginning of mmo’s people have been doing elite group content not just for fun but rewards as well, some gw2 players got it in their heads anet can be lazy and only give you content with little rewards.

If you’re happy with the scraps of loot anet provides you, then happy for you, move along and keep enjoying your content. Meanwhile the people who want loot will continue to ask for it and until anet does a better job of delivering it, you can thank the loothogs later for getting that for you too.

P.S I don’t care about gw2 pve content, it’s disappointing/waste of time compared to other games. Where’s my wvw content anet?

Allison The Strange.4519:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

…before we can run different Borderlands at the same time…

This will make the game mode less competitive imo & I hope this doesn’t happen but it seems like it is…

Hate to break this to you…. but wvw was never competitive due to the population and coverage gaps of every server involved. Points are only there to determine how much glicko you gain or lose from week to week, which then determines which matchups you will have the next week. Glicko, which they now have to manually fiddle with to give a t4 server a chance at t3.

Even the tournaments showed it wasn’t a competitive mode. At the end of the day it’s all meaningless, unless you really want 3 extra chests with green and blue salvage items.

Hopefully with the desert taking a while to return, that means some work will be put into it.