Guild Wars 2

it is not simple (on paper), but very boring. Possible interesting combinations (mostly of utility skills) are useless because of the very short duration of any special effects and the ridiculously long cooldowns.

1. I agree with you.

2. The lack of customization makes me sad.

3. New skills are on the way soonish I think…?

4. People are gonna chew you out for this thread because
—-A.) You criticized GW2, and B.) It’s been discussed a ton already.

Hi

Perhaps this has been discussed here before, as I don’t read these forums so much I have no idea. But I did search a bit and couldn’t find anything….

Am I the only one finding the games skill system to be too boring and too shallow?

I used to play Guild Wars 1 for a long time. My first one was Factions, around its release.
I found it really fun to level up to level 20 and be able to explore new areas of the game. Very quickly I noticed as a novice player I couldn’t beat all the monsters in the game even though I am maximum level.

From then on the game was about combining your skills, finding new skills and combining skills of other professions. Finding new and interesting ways to use them, a lot of skills seemed just to be odd or not really good, but if you combined them with another skill they could be an incredible combo.

And whenever you found a good build you would continue to explore the world, see you are weak in some aspects and figure out new ways to improve you. Also when you had Heroes, you learned other professions as well and spent a lot of time to make their skills proper. In the end after many years, I could master most of the PvE areas. And in PvP, people found a whole new slew of crazy combinations.

The game was great, level or equipment didn’t really matter so much, it was about your tactics. Even though 2 players were both level 20, the one who had thought before battle could outmatch the other by far.

But when I started to play Guild Wars 2 at launch I found myself getting bored relatively quickly. The game world is pure awesome, WvW is great too, everything is just as I want it too be, except for one thing, the skills.

I play as mesmer. Untill level 30 I experimented with different weapons and some skills. At level 30 I decided to go with one handed swords and a staff, illusion skills for my right hand side skills and I knew which branches I should focus my traits on….

The problem is, I am now level 80, and I am still using almost the same skills I did at level 30. And all the battles are the same, and there is really nothing I can improve or do with my character since level 30. I have no problems defeating monsters. But what I quickly realised is that there is not really any big difference between 2 players of the same class. Most mesmers play the same way, for the most players the game is alike.

While in Guild Wars 1 2 players of the same class could be miles away from eachothers playstyles and skills. Customization was key. Now the game feels mostly like any other action adventure game of some kind that is just pick up and play for anyone without any major depth to it.

My point is not that the game should be hard, or hard to pick up, but that there is no reall character evolution after a while. That after a while, all you do is just run around in the game, really not improving except your level increasing and a few traits making you stronger.

What are your thoughts about this?
And I just noticed this got quite lengthy…

I’d prefer if they concentrated on updating Zhaitan first. He needs a serious redo on how you kill him, or at least add a part after the airship cannons that forces your entire party into the “Mists” to kill his soul and banish him once and for all.

I think the new Tequatl fight is probably the best update I’ve ever seen in the game. Nothing instilled pure excitement in it like for over a week. I was checking the forums practically every hour to see who held the new record, what new server had succeeded, and everything. For once in my life, I cared about server identity beyond just WvW.

I’ve got my Sunbringer now, and killed teq quite a few times. I plan trying to go kill him every day, mostly just because I love the fight. But now that I’ve had a taste of what these dragons can be, I wan’t more.

Looking forward to what you do with The Shatterer and Claw of Jormag. Let’s make it so it takes over a day this time though, yeah?

I was actually pondering getting this for my Necromancer, it sounded like it might be pretty cool. Then I saw that the “pick” looks more like a sickle and I don’t see as much of it as “bone” as it looks like a wing or something. And then I saw the animation, ye gods the animation. It’s just black rocks and sludge, I mean, really? For a bone pick I expected the rocks to be skulls and for either a fountain of blood to erupt or for undead arms to pick apart the node for me, hell, wouldn’t even need the normal mining animation for the second one.

I’m also seeing a problem in the eventual future with things like this. If you had gotten the Molten Pick in the past and later found that for SOME reason you preferred this one? You are screwed, you have to wonder if spending 800 gems is worth the new aesthetics for any content down the line or if you want to bite the bullet and get what you can now. My Ele is not only my main, he was also a perfect fit for the 3 initial gathering tools, including the oddity of the Chop-It-All Axe, since it calls down lightning. But that’s not the case with everyone, I like the idea of having infinite tools which are also aesthetically pleasing to my characters’ designs, and would greatly appreciate it if ANet would put some kind of item in the gem store that can change a single piece of equipment from being soulbound to being account bound instead. That would give players the ability to get the new tools and still send the old ones to another character that fits the old tool, and ANet would actually be making more income from gems, it’s a win/win.

Finally, the Bone Pick is Rare quality while the Molten Pick is Masterwork? It doesn’t actually affect anything, but it really seems like an odd choice, I see no reason why all the infinite tools shouldn’t be considered Exotic quality. Just my 2 copper.

Luckily my Sylvari Necro is more about plants and less about dead things. XD I’ll be keeping my Molten pick for now.

Nilkemia.8507:

Interesting. So it seems they will be making different unlimited gathering tools every once in a while.

Which is what I expected. It wouldn’t be fair to simply have them for one point and then never offer them again. It also wouldn’t be a good business decision since they can easily make profits on such items.

I’ll hate myself slightly for it, but I might actually buy a bone pick even though I have a molten pick already…

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fEAQJArYhImObyx5gjDIkCog4RF4AcY5xMkD2AA-ToAg0CnIqRVjrGTNyas1MKYGC

Currently playing this.
might aswel go full burst. No point going for 20 in water when a necro can 100-0 you anyway. And since almost everyone is running a condi spec now the vitality you get from berserker is better than the toughness from valkyrie.

Edit. Incase you’re looking for a dagger dagger build. You can try CMC his build. He’s a pretty known streamer on guildwars2pvptv. You can pick up some skills by looking at the stream

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-k33;2BJ-U0v4-N-Z0;9;5JJ-T;159-57;245A5w0;3CoF2CoF26BW

Personally I don’t really like it that much since most skills are easily dodgeable, and with this heavy cc/condi meta atm I rather have some skills that are instant aswel. I definitely like the run choice though if you are planning to go for more of a sustain build. but then again that’s just my own opinion. This might suit you.

Sigh, I like the whole living story concept, don’t get me wrong, but whatever happened to the Elder Dragons? I mean… really? It’s been a year since we down Zhaitan and we haven’t heard hide nor hair of the others same some vague rumours. I for one would love some story content that actually led to us defeating one of these, or maybe learning something about them. It feels like all the living story stuff is just base fluff content with a bit of lore heaped on top. I mean, don’t get me wrong as it’s fun, but it’s getting tiresome. If it’s leading somewhere I would like to see where… Otherwise I would love more to do with the Elder Dragons. It doesn’t need to be a dragon that we haven’t heard about. I would even take Jormag getting feisty and we have to beat off a new champion or something. Just something to further the base story rather than side quests.

I dunno, maybe Scarlet has to do with the nature dragon and I’ll end up eating my words. shrugs

+1

Jormag and Shatterer are so boring now after you have try a real dragon fight withTequatl.

Doromir.9765:

I think that this kind of fight as it is against Tequatl would better fit to guild mission (perhaps part of bounty, challenge or introduce new kind of guild mission), which would contains some difficult bosses require some difficult tactics, not like those bounties as Tessa, Poodaboo etc. but something similar to raids as we know from others mmos. World bosses should be a little easier in compare to this new Tequatl. I would enjoy fight against the Tequatl more with my guild personally. After all, isn’t this game called Guild Wars? Just my opinion.

I agree, world bosses shouldn’t be so hard but they should be more complex fights than they are now. On other hand, dragons and temples should be as tequatl is now.

Nretep.2564:

It’s user error to rotate your camera without turning your character. Be sure to use the right mouse and movement key before trying to dodge. Dodging without direction let’s you dodge backwards from where the character is technically looking, regardless of the position of the camera.

You’re right, but it’s happened to me even while I have the right-mouse button held down. For instance:

1. Be attacking an enemy
2. Press RMB, Swing around, start holding W and run away from said enemy while still holding RMB
3. Dodge

Expected behaviour: My character dodges away from the enemy
Actual behaviour: My character dodges towards the enemy

The reason I suspect it’s related is because at the time I attempted to dodge, my character was in the middle of an attack animation directed at aforementioned enemy. It appears to be considering the character instead of the camera, as in the occasion described in my earlier post.

God Of Fissures.8627:

How come you don’t use double-tap? No Unreal Tournament fans here??? =)

Walking forward a small distance in short bursts is important for positioning/precision jumps in Jumping Puzzles/SAB. Pressing a single button is half as many actions to dodge, and it doesn’t force me to let go of the direction I want to go while I dodge.

It’s just inherently more efficient and allows for more options.

eremos.8142:

I suspect it’s related to the fact that when you double-click on something, causing your character to turn towards that thing, subsequent movement will be relative to the direction your character is facing, instead of the camera.

In the first attached screenshot, I have walked up to my current position using the right-mouse button to rotate my camera. Pressing W moves me towards the logs.

The second screenshot is after I double-click on the Citizen NPC. The camera is the same, but pressing W moves me towards the Citizen now.

I’ve found that the odd dodging happens if my character is in the midst of using a skill, which also causes character rotation, which is why I suspect it’s related.

… or if you just have the camera rotated for whatever reason.
An option to always dodge based on the camera direction would be nice. That way the dodge is based on what the player sees rather than what the character sees which is not all that useful.

Today, I finally got around to doing the third path for Crucible of Eternity (CoE) (third for me that is) and being able to observe the dungeon in its full. As such, I’d like to present my full view on the matter of the Sixth Elder Dragon’s identity and means of corruption (which is more or less in half-agreement half-disagreement with the general public’s view). I’d post this in one of the pre-existing threads, but I fear they’re either all too focused on a single particular aspect of the general public’s view.

Subject Alpha
As some may or may not know, the main enemy in is an Inquest-created multi-Elder Dragon minion known as “Subject Alpha” – this creature uses abilities reminiscent/named after four Elder Dragons and a “Mordremoth” – specifically, it’s skills are as follows:

*Imprisonment Crystal (Branded crystal)
*Summoning Undead Tendril (Risen Tendril)
*Summoning Risen Asura (self-explanatory)
*Teeth of Primordus (Dragon’s Tooth-esque skill – a fiery rock spike from the sky)
*Teeth of Jormag (a mixture of ice and rock spikes from the ground)
*Teeth of Mordremoth (a row of earth spikes)

The first three are used in every path, while the first three are used only in 2 paths each in a very specific manner (more on this later).

Now, of the three paths, you fight a major legendary boss before the third time fighting Subject Alpha – these foes are Evolved Destroyer, Evolved Husk, and Bjarl the Rampager (an icebrood).

The Evolved Destroyer uses a skill “Tooth of Primordus” – and in the path that leads to it, Subject Alpha does not use Teeth of Primordus.
Bjarl the Rampager uses the Teeth of Jormag skill – and in that path, Subject Alpha does not use it.
The Evolved Husk, as far as I know (I didn’t think of checking) does not use a Mordremoth skill, however during that path Subject Alpha does not use Teeth of Mordremoth.

Seeing the connection yet? Let’s continue.

Nightmare Court’s influence (and not)
The Evolved Husk is, to put it simply, a powerful Summoned Husk – giant plant creatures seen only with the Nightmare Court outside CoE. Along with the Evolved Husk, there are Summoned Husks, Burning Husks, Nightmare Hounds, and Volatile Blossoms in this portion of CoE (similarly, outside CoE in same corner of the Infinity Coil Reactor, at the PoI Zone Green, there are Volatile Blossoms again) – all of which are found in relation to the Nightmare Court outside CoE. This fact has led quite a few folks to further their thoughts of “Pale Tree=Elder Dragon/dragon champion” – I’d like to state here and now, I do not believe this is so, and I feel I can almost disprove this notion. Here is why:

Firstly, on the Husks:
During the meta event in Wychmire Swamp, aptly named The Battle for Wychmire Swamp, the meta event begins with a Warden, Gamarien, who states “I’m scouting Wychmire Swamp for Nightmare Court activity, though I fear an even darker force is at work. I worry these summoned husks are harbingers of a greater foe.” And while there are two Nightmare Courtiers met during the first event of the chain, they indeed hold no other influence over the meta. This meta focuses on fighting “Blighted Husks” and “Blighted Grubs” ending with a battle with a giant jungle wurm (fun fact: jungle wurms are also called Nightmare Vines in Twilight Arbor, this combined with their appears implies they’re plants, not wurms).

This indicates that there’s a second source of these Husks other than Nightmare Court.

On Nightmare Hounds specifically, there is mention in the Town of Cathal in Caledon Forest (marked by a waypoint) that “It’s more than just their heart that is tainted by nightmare. Their very bodies shift into something darker and more malevolent.” when asked about trying to heal the Nightmare Court’s Thorn Hounds.

As things stand, this is all evidence that would state the Nightmare Court at the very least is tied to this Mordremoth. And I’d agree, but not go so far as to say the Pale Tree. Because there are things unrelated to the sylvari who are corrupted by what I’ll dub the “Blighted” (as that’s the naming system given in the Wychmire Swamp meta).

In Ogham Wilds of Caledon Forest, there is an event where Nightmare Courtiers are attempting to corrupt some Mosshearts – and they may succeed, if so we’re tasked in killing them. The thing to note is that these Mosshearts hold the same appearance as the Nightmare Tree fought in Twilight Arbor explorable, though much smaller and mobile. One thing to note is that while sylvan hounds (aka thorn/nightmare hounds) coincide with sylvari, the treants (mosshearts, oakhearts, pinesouls, and willowhearts) do not – they predate sylvari. Yet they can be corrupted in the same manner.

(more in next post)

Very interesting research; reading about the ED theories is my favorite part of Lore.

10/10!

Another bug: you can see the white daytime clouds glitching in and out at night in the stormy ones. Honestly given what the nighttime stowed glow looks like, it looks like the daytime stowed glow is occurring at night at the same time as well, instead of the day.

I’ve just recently got my Meteorlogicus and I’ve noticed a visual bug.

When sheathed the weapon looses it’s glow effect ALMOST always, on the rare occasion that it doesn’t it get an awesome glowy trail that was a feature of the original look of the Meteorlogicus that everyone liked and wishes was still part of the new look.

The only times i was able to get the glow working while sheathed was when i equip it from the inventory while my other weapon (a dagger) was sheathed. This doesn’t work all the time however.

Was the removal of the awesome glowy trail a bug or did you mean to remove good visual features from legendaries when updating them? The effect is still obviously tied to the weapon since I can occasionally get it to work and look good.

I’d like to update this bug with some screen shots of what i mean with the glowing trail. I actually wasn’t able to reproduce the weapon glow disappearing when i was going to make screen shots.

The first screen shot shows Meteorlogicus with the blue/purple trail that everyone wants back from the original look before the update. This appears when you equip the weapon sheathed or first log in with the weapon equipped and goes away if you take the weapon out. The second screenshot shows how the weapon will look after you take it out and re sheath it.

I haven’t seen a topic on this subject in the 4 pages. And because Forum search is broken I’ll leave this just here.

In Citadel of Flame on path 1 the flame balls which you have to run through are often invisible.
This makes it very hard to run through, because the only way to see some of it is to hover over your cursor.

Please DO NOT move this topic to the Dungeon forums, no developer ever looks at that(except Colin a few days ago).

If anyone knows a temp fix for this issue, share it please. I heard alt tabbing, but that doesn’t seem to work, not in Windowed Fullscreen or Fullscreen.

I love it, you get champ bags, rares, blues and greens, and you still complain, lol.

You PvErs are some piece of work, gimme, gimme, gimme.

By that I mean please give us storylines to Krakklatorrik and Jormag. No more side stories that mean little to nothing to do with the rest of the world; granted the idea is nice but it dragging on is a bit of a bore.

Enough of the constant content and trying to keep people on their toes, many players have lives and they have no chance at getting their achievements or experiencing the content, at all.

Also, I feel as though the copious amount of content is a bit of a distraction from the major issues spilling around the game, that needs some serious attention.

Yes Anet, currently the Logicus is bugged. When in the day-time transformation, its effect is only existent when out but not while stowed unlike the night-time transformation, it still keeps the effects while stowed. Also, during the transition period between day and night the Logicus’s old trail of light that we all loved returns but eventually disappears after full transition.
Hopefully you can go back and fix the effects staying during daylight and keeping the blue trail at day and purple by night (and of course maintaining that blue-ish/purple at transition period). Other than these occurrences, the updated Meteorlogicus is gorgeous. The footsteps are splendid and the night-time version is stunning. An absolute superb job guys.
Cheers.
-Lyxr

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

In Guild Wars 2, the monsters raid you.

Haha, very funny -_-