Guild Wars 2

Acarius.3052:

There should be no level requirement for the skins, but getting one is based on RNG so … Just open the Black Lion Chests and hope for the best.
The skins are called “Fused” there are pictures of them online already so you can check them out or preview them in the refugee camp in lion’s arch(I may be wrong about where to preview them fyi)

wat is RNG?

umm i bought 100black lion chests that were locked. i bought 52 keys and i havent gotten a single skin…..im lvl32. r tere certain requirements i am suppose to meet to get this ticket? or skin? wat r these skins they r talking about on the homepage i cant seem to access the page wen i lick on read more. PLEASE HELP

its separated enough, so lol no.

Ryuujin.8236:

Adry.7512:

yes ik, IDK WHY THEY TOOK IT OFF! the OP didnt seem to kno this by the way he/she commented. i wana have a lot of tats on my char T_____T!

They took it off because it was the healer class – squishy and weak, but with powerful defensive buffs and heals. The guardian is the spiritual successor to GW1’s monk to all intents and purposes; trading off raw healing power for heavy armour and decent damage output to bring it in line with the GW2 design ethos.

they coulda switched it up mannn….its all about those tats :<. yes guardians should stay that way, but they shoulda changed the monks and kept tats.

Fernling.1729:

Adry.7512:

the fact that u lvl up with crafting, beautiful. WvW its amazing. the mists pvp….needs more variety, seriously, but i love it too. the storyline, epic. everything is just really really good. i dont even understand how people can complain, dont get me wrong i read the threads and comments, but their all senseless to me =/. the game is nr1 without a doubt, this isnt even a biased comments cause i PLAYED a LOT of mmorpgs, and GW2’s nr1 status is no lie.

If this is the best game you have ever played, you should pm me. I will provide you with a large list of games that will surely blow you away.

lol mmorpg…..i didnt add that to the title, but when it comes to games in general that i would play lets say for over 1-2years, then yes GW2 is top3 for me, period. any actual game that’s not an mmorpg, once u beat it…..everything is just blahhhhh afterwards. and what i mean by blah, is that u literally forget u even have it.

UnderdogSMO.9428:

Adry.7512:

SpyderArachnid.5619:

Adry.7512:

Budchgon.2108:

Will GW2 ever get a monk-style class? Unarmed combat?
I’d love to play a Shaolin monk styled fighter

……this isnt WoW. maybe they will get something similar, like a martial arts class, with cool looking hand/arm weapons, but yea not a monk, this game has pride as far as i can tell.

You do realize the Monk class has been around long before WoW right? Stop comparing things to WoW just cause WoW has it. WoW wasn’t the first you know.

On topic, I wouldn’t mind a Monk class. Especially with the style of combat mechanics GW2 utilizes, it would fit in nicely. I would like to see something like the DDO Monk though. I think they did a nice job with the Monk.

this is true, but you do understand that the monk class just came out and BOOM here you have it, an idea referencing something that WoW has. it made me laugh. when you like a game over another, but you see that other game has a cool new feature you want the game you like to have it too. lol thats where my comment originated from.

GW1 had a monk class dude. >_> way befor wow…. thats why you see monks in AC

yes ik, IDK WHY THEY TOOK IT OFF! the OP didnt seem to kno this by the way he/she commented. i wana have a lot of tats on my char T_____T!

SpyderArachnid.5619:

Adry.7512:

SpyderArachnid.5619:

Adry.7512:

Budchgon.2108:

Will GW2 ever get a monk-style class? Unarmed combat?
I’d love to play a Shaolin monk styled fighter

……this isnt WoW. maybe they will get something similar, like a martial arts class, with cool looking hand/arm weapons, but yea not a monk, this game has pride as far as i can tell.

You do realize the Monk class has been around long before WoW right? Stop comparing things to WoW just cause WoW has it. WoW wasn’t the first you know.

On topic, I wouldn’t mind a Monk class. Especially with the style of combat mechanics GW2 utilizes, it would fit in nicely. I would like to see something like the DDO Monk though. I think they did a nice job with the Monk.

this is true, but you do understand that the monk class just came out and BOOM here you have it, an idea referencing something that WoW has. it made me laugh. when you like a game over another, but you see that other game has a cool new feature you want the game you like to have it too. lol thats where my comment originated from.

But you make the assumption that just cause WoW has it, the OP must be referring to WoW. And it didn’t really just come out. We knew WoW would have a Monk class back in mid 2011 (when it was announced).

The Monk has been around since old school table top gaming and even before that. It has been featured in Diablo and DDO along with several other games, before it even was mentioned in WoW. People have suggested a Monk class for GW2 for awhile now, even before the game was released and before even Cataclysm was around.

Just because some other game recently made a Monk class, doesn’t mean any suggestion about Monks derives from WoW now. That’s like saying because we want Cantha back, that means we want Pandaria because WoW did it recently with the asian theme.

All I’m saying basically is, don’t assume you know what someone is talking about based off your own personal thoughts. Because honestly, the WoW style Monk kind of sucks lol.

LOL omg it doesss suck. i havent even thought of WoW as a decent game since after the lichking thingy.

Acidicore.3264:

The video gaming genre is too vast to singly target one game that best defines it as a whole, because of the sum of it’s parts are varied between a large number of sub-genres within itself. MMO-wise, I’ve played plenty and currently it’s my favorite. It’s not perfect, and no game ever is and while it has many ways to improve on it’s core design, it’s a great MMO. Of course the “favorite game” either stems from either “in recent memory” or “nostalgia” factors, you could argue that Uncharted 2 was the best 3PS to come out, or someone could argue that the new Tomb Raider is better or that Golden Eye 007 was the best shooter in existence, it comes down to subjective opinions and we’ll never see one based on facts.

With future MMO’s in the future, some showing plenty of potential based on promises (Elder’s Scroll Online being one of them) doesn’t deter that I really enjoy GW2 seven months later.

yea same here, atm this is my all-time-favorite mmorpg….im also waiting for blade and soul, but thats going to be veryyyy different from gw2, hence preventing an over-layer of preference. i seen allllll mmorpgs that r good, and all the known upcomingt ones and GW2 seems to keep me more interested. by, lets say, 5months from now, i expect a lot of small changes and patches and content, plus at least one BIG content update (like an expansion), if the game within that reasonable time period manages to fail those expectations (which arent expectations, its just the norm for an mmorpg), then i will say, yes the game has its good features, but it will definitely not be a game i will even log into on a weekly bases, maybe every three weeks.

SpyderArachnid.5619:

Adry.7512:

Budchgon.2108:

Will GW2 ever get a monk-style class? Unarmed combat?
I’d love to play a Shaolin monk styled fighter

……this isnt WoW. maybe they will get something similar, like a martial arts class, with cool looking hand/arm weapons, but yea not a monk, this game has pride as far as i can tell.

You do realize the Monk class has been around long before WoW right? Stop comparing things to WoW just cause WoW has it. WoW wasn’t the first you know.

On topic, I wouldn’t mind a Monk class. Especially with the style of combat mechanics GW2 utilizes, it would fit in nicely. I would like to see something like the DDO Monk though. I think they did a nice job with the Monk.

this is true, but you do understand that the monk class just came out and BOOM here you have it, an idea referencing something that WoW has. it made me laugh. when you like a game over another, but you see that other game has a cool new feature you want the game you like to have it too. lol thats where my comment originated from.

Budchgon.2108:

Will GW2 ever get a monk-style class? Unarmed combat?
I’d love to play a Shaolin monk styled fighter

……this isnt WoW. maybe they will get something similar, like a martial arts class, with cool looking hand/arm weapons, but yea not a monk, this game has pride as far as i can tell.

Voltron.1043:

morrolan.9608:

The base game is very good and has carried it as far as its gotten but its been hamstrung by stuff like the RMT aspect of the gem shop and the obsession with making it an esport. And the live support has been poor, on a par with swtor. As other mmos like TESO, Archeage, Wildstar and Defiance come out its popualtion will dwindle.

It is not like I want to say anything but read this OP post and think. Back in times when Lineage 2 and later WoW hit market MMO wasnt THAT popular, and those games were HUGE NEW MMOs wich created most what we know now. There was not such a big hype on MMOS. Now, after WoW succsess MMOs are growing every year like apples on tries. What I want to say is this: Now MMOs dont have time to wait and “see what will happen”. Players wont patiently wait and wait for promises to deliver. Players will leave MMOs that are not getting them, becasue soon there will be more of them to be realesed. Take a look on last years- Aion, Terra, Rift, EVE etc- now MMO market is merciless, players are. Now you have players that are playing GW2, but NOW there is no game that can take away most players, NOW is safe. But in next few months it will change dramaticly. You dont deliver what you promise- bye bye, new MMOs are coming. Thats how it is now- why do you think F2P is pushing P2P from 10 years ago? Market changed. It is not like 10 years ago at all. Thats why MMOs now CANT make same succsess like WoW made.

Only THIS year alone there are big MMOs coming- Elders Scrolls Online. ArchAge (Trion is doing localization in NA/EU)- A HUGE sandbox MMO with a lot new fresh ideas. Defiance. Wildstar. Blade & Soul NA/EU from NCSOFT. Neverwinter- in most famous fantsy world. All those are serious, big games. And it is only 2013.

What I mean is this in short- you cant compare WoW start or any other old-classic-MMOs from 10 years ago with nowadays MMO market. Now all MMO companies know what those classic did wrong on starts etc. But now they really have to win players with thier game, beacause most players if they have choice are moving to game where they fill best. And soon they will have plenty of choices. GW2 had a good start with nice hole in MMO market, but next two years will bring how many MMOs?

Just something to think now only in case of GW2 but all MMO games nowadays.

Just my 3 cents.

pretty much the same thing i said, but much better stated. this is very true and not a lot of people understand this, but then again they dont understand many other things, so w.e. you cant please everybody, much less a gaming fanbase. these fans range from kid-adults, spoiled kids, trendy gaming kids, ignorant adults, irritated adults with certain communication implications, people who just like gaming, etc etc etc. the game atm will continue to have a fanbase civil war until the game manages to excel in, not just expectations, but in the gaming scale. this will only come with time though, so w.e.

morrolan.9608:

The base game is very good and has carried it as far as its gotten but its been hamstrung by stuff like the RMT aspect of the gem shop and the obsession with making it an esport. And the live support has been poor, on a par with swtor. As other mmos like TESO, Archeage, Wildstar and Defiance come out its popualtion will dwindle.

MMORPGs have grown intensively in popularity. what you stated is a fact that goes for all MMORPGs nowadays, but like i said, give it some time and we will see. i am just waiting for the game to be completed so they add the real good stuff, better soon than too late.

Zhaneel.9208:

you give a very solid opinion, and i agree with you 100%, but just like you said the game just came out. ik i use WoW as an example very often, but only cause of its popularity. back when WoW first started, they too had a very stale period in its career. most games do, just wait till they accomplish their “living story” dream, lol, then lets see how they manage to impress us, once their artistic needs are fulfilled…also their piggybanks. they dont ask for a lot of money at all, but w.e we will see soon enough. what i imagine they plan to do for the rest of this year is give as much of a “plus” to this game as they possibly can, in order to “complete” it. as in, add this here, add that there, enrich this here, blah blah blah. After they “complete” their game, then thats when i believe ul get that Map content, maybe a new race, an expansion, etc etc. yes the game has been out for 7months, but it doesnt mean that they are satisfied with it quite yet b4 adding anything to it. also a game like skyrim becomes extremely boring after you beat the game, yes the story is nice, but tis a solo game, its meant to have a great story. mmorpg are more than that and r very different, i believe the current story is good, but i see where people become disappointed. my guess is that the story might become very compelling in an expansion and stuff like that. maybe no, maybe this huuuuge hype was for nothing, maybe after the game is set for future expansion, then it will become a joke. eitherway they have a lot on their plate. yes money is an issue, but publicity is even worse, a lto of gaming companies r shutting down and so are their games. a game given the NR1 status and hype, has not only a reputation to maintain, but also its very company, the higher they climb, the harder they will fall i promise you this. they know this as well and im sure the last thing they want is their own downfall. therefore, i will continue to PVP in the mists, i will continue to max my gear for WvW and i will have fun with it. for a game that JUST came it, it manages to entertain me a lot. i dont play it on a daily bases and maybe that a problem most people face, but playing it on a daily or bi-daily bases will make the game become stale. its an mmorpg, its not a solo rpg, the game requires money, expansions, content, patches, etc, to make the game a daily thing. all mmorpgs become stale quick, its all about time, just dont go insane spending all your money on a game b4 it becomes perfect. just buy it, play it, be patient, and savor the smell before you eat it.

Bloodstealer.5978:

Soul.5947:

Adry.7512:

the fact that u lvl up with crafting, beautiful. WvW its amazing. the mists pvp….needs more variety, seriously, but i love it too. the storyline, epic. everything is just really really good. i dont even understand how people can complain, dont get me wrong i read the threads and comments, but their all senseless to me =/. the game is nr1 without a doubt, this isnt even a biased comments cause i PLAYED a LOT of mmorpgs, and GW2’s nr1 status is no lie.

After taking a look at your previous posts i can clearly see you are a shill and what you are doing is disgusting
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shill
this is all i have to say about your post

Lolz yeah I’ve been intrigued by the OP’s love affair of the game and how it apparently excels in all aspects of an MMORPG.. the story errm disjointed lacking substance and such a small apsect of the game really but let him have his 5 mins in the sun.. give it a few months and I am sure all those nice supportive posts will have been replaced with others … not so shiny

At the end of the day everyone is entitled to their opinions of the game, mine says it was decent at first but after the intial shine wore off its become average at best and definately lacks substance.
@ OP…. crafting allows you to level.. I am glad you see that as a plus…. must be great to be able to stand in LA, open the TP buy some gems, exchange for gold, buy mats, craft and acraft and craft till you have maxed it all out and gained many levels doing nothing but make things that, for the most part are all but useless in game and at best no better than the loot you constantly pick up off corpses… but whatever triggers your event horizon I guess.
As for the game it is average at best now.. it lacks basic features of pretty much any out of the box MMO out there right now.. no LFM, no ability to customise UI layout, proper guild mechanics.. to name but a few. As for the game mechanics its far from balanced and almost feels like ANET have put very little thought into how their loot tables and content should be structured.. it all feels a little bit slaphazard planning to me and often fueled by reactive influence from above to qualm players complaints …. a la “gimme guaranteed loots” blah blah blah.

As for cash shop, allowing players to take advange of gear and equipment and turn achievements into water.. makes it a little tot P2W without the stat advantages of other gear gated games but a poor choice especially so early on in its life.. players grow bored easily in MMO’s.. but with your extensive MMO experience you will of course know that so P2W so early might indicate its true popularity / profitability but at the end of the day that all comes down to player choice and it bothers me not one bit if thats how other choose to use it…
But again OP.. intriguing supportive posting history and glad to see you are enjoying the butterflies and daisies still

your opinion lacks substance. no solution, no comparisons, just constant rambling about irrelevant opinions that are too narrowed down to a biased standpoint to make anyone even glance it’s way. in other words, an elementary school written comment with better vocabulary.

wow this must be one of the most senseless threads so far, but ok. i might be able to agree with a sentence, then the rest is….no. the game is good, if its too hard for you…o well. if its not REWARDING enough lul o well. games arent suppose to be easy like for example WoW, that deadend game has added so manyyyyyy player-friendly things to make the game “more rewarding” and “less difficult” that i wouldnt even make a free character using my friend’s account. thats how much garbage WoW is nowadays. sorry, but your thread is pointless to me.

end game= endgame. its the end.

do WvW or go to the mists, get a legendary. make a powerful guild to own with. do guild events. make money by merchanting. eventually new content will come, also with this update u can have a unique server depending o choices u make. wat more do u want? a unique server based on decisions u made has never happened in an mmorpg, enjoy it. your opinion is welcomedbut how about u play what the game has to offer. also wait for the next patch ^^.

i cant wait to max out my gear so i can destroys allll :o in wvw :>. you just have to get into the aspects of gw2, its a beautiful game.

i love the lore to the game and i like the comedic touch they implemented on it. i dont see the problem. i found myself really into the storyline several times, its probably one of the best storylines for an mmorpg….like top3. if its not to your liking…..well im sorry i guess? gw1 is gw1 and gw2 is gw2, done. also later you find out that tybalt hasnt even been on a real mission yet cause he is a rookie -.-. nuff said.

Allure.6495:

Currently in lvling warr (lvl 75) and doing so i walked over 80% of maps. Luckly in only rushing lvls with events and hearts. Everywhere i go there are at least 3 events/chain events buged making lvling / dailys harder and harder. If u go to any map the most comom coments on /M chat is " events?". This happens because the server didnt reset for over a week and that´s why i strongly recomend resets every 3 days. Resets on GW2 are effecient and quick they normally take only the time u download the patches if any so yes it is viable frequent resets and if ur in dungeon u dont get kicked . I hope Anet read this and do something to make resets more often to fix events otherwhise GW2 will become known as “Bugwarrs”.

No. I simply do not see a problem.

^
i second this. all you have to do in all honesty is get good at the game…..ur not good if other people r far better than u. either way jsut have fun and keep trying man. games arent suppose to be easy or they become too…blah

i would cancel my account and try to get a refund on my game. lol i dont play WoW cuz it has a monthly fee. NO game is worth a monthly fee….you pay and thats it, u have fun and continue to play if u want. you pay for expansions DUH, but thats….IT lol. no game is worth actually spending your time to even think of remembering that u have to pay….much less pay. its a game, thats it.

the solution is NEVER to make the dungeons EASIER! the solution is to buff up the party.

for example….

allow more players to join the party and go into the dungeon (miore players, better chances).

make strong party buffs.

and a few other things, but thats it man. anything more than that and u ruin the game completely within that aspect.

i spend most of the time i play the game in the PVP world and when they make dueling in the pve word….excuse me i started drooling….i will continue to lvl up my lvl32 mesmer (thats my max lvl). yes guys i looooove the game’s pvp, i heard a lot of people QQ thats its not suffisticated….i will have to diagree. LOL i find myself having to do counter moves and using tactics everytime i fights….and very often, so its never really a spamfest, BUT if ur a noob LOL obv ima just spam attack with my greatsword as i fuse animations with my clones to mess with u. if u make me try the i switch weps i time i combo etc etc.

ok main point is, guys,JUST GET USED TO THE GAME! it is a huuuuuuuge difference from other mmorpgs. therefore im sure it takes a while to get used to and a lot of people that didnt adapt well to it have a problem with the game…..quite honestly though its a fantastic game.

i just hope they keep pvp in the pve world as a “FUN” thing and never make it competitive or they will ruin the pvp world.

i find myself having a hard time getting off the pc wen im pvping in GW2, its FUN. only prob is that they gotta make a system to have people get into tournies FASTER than it is now….its still slow, LESS slow….but slow -____-. i suggest making the tournies have different game options…..GW2 needs a lot more pvp variety wen it comes to options.

yes territory takeovers is funnnn and cool and yes u guys make maps so that we ALWAYS engage in pvp everywhere, but u need more game options. i have suggested this MANY time, MAKE A PVP TOWER IN THE TOURNY! make a tourny where players meet in different rooms and fight the winners move up and meet up and fight and so on until there is only 1. i NEVER EVER hurd of a pvp tower, so GW2 would be the first ever to create it. also make capture the flag, or w/e. kist make more pvp options and make the tourny a MUST! so every1 joins, lol please make tournies more important! -____-

i’d say the only good thing about this thread are the responses making the thread look stupid. man quite your crying and your ignorance, its boring.

the game is great.
the game just came out.
the game will advance far beyond this.
get good, enjoy it, or stop playing it.

why is my spelling so bad.
a certain number of players*
each floor has its own*

a certain number is players go into a tower…..each flower is its own room with a certain amount of players (each room is accessed through a portal). the higher you go the less players there are because players will die along the way. each floor will look different for example 1 room could be a dark area and the other a misty forest (not big maps….just good for pvp). the last floor will pare up the 2 remaining teams/players. the winning team will get a certain price only available in the pvp tower.

of course i believe that each pvp game-mode/feature should have its own unique prices and stuff so the players will always switch from mode-to-mode.

my thoughts exactly! they r very VERY fair with their fans and dont want to come off as money hungry, but dude….lol i would easily spend 200bucks for gemstore stuff if it was good. like more costumes (with no stats)….and it would be epic IF u could take off the skins from an armor and attach the skins to a different armor….

as the loser that i am playing MMORPGs for a long time i am going to give a quick and cheap opinion on gw2.

yes i played WoW b4 it lost its charm (crusader days and lvl7 cap).

pve-wise = GW2 destroys WoW and any other mmorpg, BUT it needs a lot more considering the fact that they wana make it a living world with much to do. they need more endgame needed, more in-between content needed (lvls 1-80 content).

PVP-wise = i hurd they are going to making dueling in the PVE world….YESSS OMG YESSS kitten. they need GvG battles and features and stuff…but the PVP style is beautiful and it actually takes time to read and fully understand a tree to make a good build…unlike every other mmorpg out there that have a geeric build fr every1. they need to focus on adding more pvp stuff though

Expansions = well im sure they have many plans as ive read/seen from interviews, but they need to make end-game content…..a lot more compelling.

they just need to add more things.

atm i wont lie i think GW2 beats any mmorpg out there. for example my friend plays WoW so im updated on their new stuff and well…..its pathetic and senseless =/. i think that within a year from now GW2 will become the new mmorpg giant and will most likely stay that way for a while. the only competition i see is the new blade and soul game from korea, BUT its a very different game and well….i doubt it will rival gw2.

yes GW2 is a new game and yes i have a lot of problems with it cause i believe they should add/fix certain things, but so far its an epic game and a fun experience and from what i read/seen it has a lot more to come and gw2 developers are all well-aware of what the fans want. i just see a lot of potential for this game….my ONLY BIG concern is how will they get the necessary money to fund this? i mean for BIG expansions and new content….they need money, but its a b2p game and the cash shop….doesnt have much, so the main money would come from sales and players active in the game. i understand that they dont wana make the cashshop OP and im with that idea 100%, but is this company going to struggle money-wise in the future when it comes to new content and getting what the fans want?

i accidentally posted this thread in the dungeons section….sorry.

i gave it some thought and while adding more skills to the right skillbars would be nice….its not necessary….this game allows u to mi and match builds and theres soooo much variety to how u can make a build. like i made a mesmer build and i have yet to see any other like it in pvp and i own in pvp. i guess cause the game is sooo new, but yea i gone to google and wiki to check out boon/condition effects and i made my build actually work 100% to my favor i might one day put it out if its not common public knowledge by then, but w\e. i can say its good cause im new to the game (dont even have a max lvl or anythign near a max lvl) yet my pvp top player points r almost even with how many times i have pvp’d LOL (120 or 130 games and 105 or 110 top player) and yes i do tournies too…. either way back to the subject….while adding more skillbars to the right would be nice….its NOT necessary cause the pvp content is rich and good as it is, but who knows.
WHAT THEY REALLY NEED IS GUILD VS GUILD OPTIONS/FEATURES!

oops…i posted in wrong section kitten

i gave it some thought and while adding more skills to the right skillbars would be nice….its not necessary….this game allows u to mi and match builds and theres soooo much variety to how u can make a build. like i made a mesmer build and i have yet to see any other like it in pvp and i own in pvp. i guess cause the game is sooo new, but yea i gone to google and wiki to check out boon/condition effects and i made my build actually work 100% to my favor i might one day put it out if its not common public knowledge by then, but w\e. i can say its good cause im knew to the game (dont even have a max lvl or anythign near a max lvl) yet my pvp top player points r almost even with how many times i have pvp’d LOL (120 or 130 games and 105 or 110 top player) and yes i do tournies too…. either way back to the subject….while adding more skillbars to the right would be nice….its NOT necessary cause the pvp content is rich and good as it is, but who knows.

WHAT THEY REALLY NEED IS GUILD VS GUILD OPTIONS/FEATURES!

idk what your intentions with your game are, but last time is checked, if i play a game that is called “guildwars2”, i EXPECT….SERIOUSLY EXPECT a lot of GUILD VS GUILD options, yet i have seen none. dont get me wrong i love your game, but i hate what your doing with it. i am guessing you have a lot of cool stuff planned ^^…..but that better include A LOT of GvsG content/updates. good luck with your game, i hope it doesnt fall…ever.

the bars need to have WAYY more options. people have been complaing that the game is a spam-fest. yes your weapon skillbars are fine, but the right skillbars arent….there needs to be more skillbar options so people can put more of the skills they want in it….otherwise its a spamfest =/. In other knews, this isnt a big deal for me, but to a lot of people it is, there needs to be PVP in the PVE world, not like in the mists, but more of a “fun” pvp rather than a competitive one. for example, no 1st, 2nd, 3rd place winner in the PVE world, just regular dueling Options when you right click a player and maybe an arena type area to pvp n stuff, just to show off our armor and weapons….nothing BIG. then in the mists make the PVP competitive with prices n stuff like u already been doing.