Guild Wars 2

Guardian does not escape from a batle he wins or looses…. simple as that.

FractalChaos.6539:

Niim.9260

Our 5-8 man has rolled a 50+ guild zerg,

Oh please…

5-8 thiefs before culling fix :P ?

chtiyonki.6284:

Hey,

atm I’m experimenting a mix of Cleric / Soldier.

I know lot of ppl don’t like Healing Power because it’s stacking bad with Guardian skills.

On my last “tanky” (well it’s more a hybrid) build I was on full Soldier and had 200 Healing Power. Now I’m up to 515 with full Cleric armors + Soldier trinkets + Knight weaps.

With Superior Sigil of Energy on each weapons + Vigorous Precision (trait) I have really a lot of dodges.

In battle I can do +10 dodges per minute, for the exemple I take 10/min.

Heal by Dodges:
10 * (129 + 200) = 3290 health regen per minute.
10 * (129 + 515) = 6440 health regen per minute.
6440 – 3290 = 3150 more health regen / minute

Heal by Regeneration:
130 + (0.125 * 200) = 155 / sec, so 9300 / min
130 + (0.125 * 515) = 194 / sec, so 11662 / min
11662 – 9300 = 2362 more health regen / min

It’s only paper math, in the fight, with virtue of resolve, the fact you have not 100% regeneration uptime, if you keep dodging, ect… you’ll able to self-health for around 4000-6000 more per minutes.

Atm I feel pretty good to have sacrifised ~2500 max Health for ~4000-6000 regen / min.

That only work on pve, on pvp you will get good player that will shredd your boons and healing, Vit > armor > healing.

if Gvg’s were added to the game wvwvw would turn into the next phantom AB matches from the previous game.

It’s funy how wvwvw shows how classes are unbalanced and why they need different rules when in PVP realm, in my opinion that shows how the classes are poorly designed due game mechanics, there are alot of stats that dont work out of the box, and most only work on pve other will not work on pve and work better in pvp, the concept that says “play what you want, how to you want” is a placebo, all classes tend to use the same(or very similiar ones) builds and stats in armor choices at the end.

It’s not that Anet encourages zergsting, if you guys played AB on GW1, that was mostly groups or 4 that ended on groups of 12 or mobbing the spawns, this isnt much different from what is happening, the map is just bigger takes long to cap shrines(castles), and theres no queue.

P.S i just rather have shrines to cap same as AB than this pseudo siege warfare.
WvWvW, should be a complex way to get boons to the server on a real siege map(box map) and to conquer or defend a clastle could take longuer time.

Namu.5712:

I agree they took out challenging veritcal progression and replaced it with meaningless grind.

Ya theres no gear grind…. but you grind grind grind for everything else and to top it off there is no challenge lol.

At least in other games with lots of grind there was a new dungeon or raid that you had to over come in your grind, in GW2 its just okay this month your gonna grind this area…. same stuff over and over and over.

let them continue erroring again and again, ignoring the mmo market…. gw3 announce might be near

P.S. Redundancy on a action game is the worse concept ever, that is what the future of this game looks like, i do recall when people left AB, and wvw will be no difference.

Danikat.8537:

Thanks both, that’s really helpful.

It doesn’t give me a simple answer on which to pick but at least I have a better understanding of what it is I’m deciding, so I can hopefully figure something out.

Armor is important for direct damage but, Vit > armor in any case.

So thats why all asians game have Elves?!

exos.6831:

I agree with this post, I see my story line as a way for quick xp and gear.

Wait for gw3….

Theres way to many things to do right now… living story not working as intented (IMO) as is “not living story” yet, all results is the same end, no matter what you dont do! So is as living story as super mario was.
Theres alot big progress that anet could take on (that would call more players to the game) WvW / GvG etc etc, before they can add any other race or expansion.

Midnightjade.3520:

Yeah, most of the time I can’t reach them.

If I switch to hammer, I can get to them with #2. How do I keep them in range while I pound on them, once skill #5 wears off?

Thanks.

humm i would rather make a WvW stat build with /krit/power/vit and use Judge’s Intervention on a meditation build if i wanted to go on charge.

try to play with gear here : http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/

Instead of mace use staff or hammer(i would go for hammer).

With mace you wont reach 90% of the adversaries (i dont know how you guys play there) but a clever player will try to kill you within range and avoid loosing mobility that is when a guardian w/o wand cant do nothin .

P.S tank does not exist here

After takign my under lvl(15) toons to WvW i belive guardian skills are weird…

When i keep range from the guardian most of times they cant even get closer and hit, unless they have a wand as main. even that is easily avoidable.
sometimes i burst and flee, they must use heal or shout skills for healing, when their skills are recharging, its almost a free kill, if on a necro i wait t for them to get mad and use boons to rip off, nowadays guardians are my first choice if i want a kill.

ps. My main is a guardian to.

Jscull.2514:

This game is mechanically just like war hammer. Battle objective capping. Until there is a different set of abilities / armor only obtained via kills.. This game will promote only 20+ Zergs. Garbage.

Alliance batles from Factions with walls!

would be so great if the Mist were a “box” WvW map :P
Guilds could conquer zones in a map as larger as tyria, built pré-selected castles (where those castle/tower models could be unlocked via Guild research). gawd so many concepts could be viable :S ……

New class? humm more defense stuff for guardian :P

Less AB style more FA

Quenta.2978:

Is it true there is no ascended gear through WvW?

That’s were you need to PvE and play alot for the ascended….. no grind srly!

Forzani.2584:

To easy for the attackers. I am guessing Anet wants it that way to make sure keeps/towers change ownership often.

I would prefer taking a tower/keep to mean something. Currently all it is is the enemy does a circuit taking towers/keeps. They don’t upgrade or siege it up, they just move on to next target. The realm that lost the towers/keeps plays follow the leader and retakes everything in the order it was originally taken.

Defenders should have more of an advantage.

This is a thing that i talk often, WvW is nothing new, its AB (alliance batles) but in larger scale, the shrines just got surrounded by walls they even have the npc’s to take control.

Yes i agree with you, taking a castle /tower, whatever should be dificult and fancy that is what siege is about (adv: take control of castles to control zones in the mist).

The game got to limited in my opinion….

guys get a zerg of necros…

•Necromancer trait: Now allows life-stealing on walls in World vs. World.

•Necromancer trait: Now allows life-stealing on walls in World vs. World.

how to you guys feel? massive PvW (player versus wall) ??

P.S necros sucking walls stone and wood and kitten, really had to laught out loud!

That was the best update for today but they ruined it ! lawl!

•Necromancer trait: Now allows life-stealing on walls in World vs. World.

another one bites the dust :>

Mif.3471:

Sad to see almost everyone considers Engineers to be useless

…and Jon Peters thinks the solution is buffing turrets /facepalm

get a group good speced Engi’s, make a elite turret spike on the other zerg and observe how many went down, grab bags run next zerg.

No does not worth it, make a thief, mesmer or necro.
Faster characters and range DPS is all you need, or what game needs.

Guardians! remmember if you die?
Die alltogether in the same cell, turtle of death!

The name, i really tough you guys were that many thiefs, would it blend?

Vayle.7964:

uses save yourselves to get spiked down easier rather than having another chance of survival

In this lower tier you guys cant imagine the number of necros with boon hate.
Almost all for sure….

off-topic.
Recently being observing groups of 5-6 running of all same profession, but only, necros, mesmers and thiefs, rare to find some engi’s with the turret drop spike, but for sure necros are the mostly anoying.

Npac.3476:

So who’s excited for all the PvE guilds who have never been to WvW to show up tonight and try out the new content?!

PAXA smells fresh meat

I dont believe here on NSP we will have that much feeling , lets hope that im wrong.

Just my idea of what most guardians use with mace/shield, and yes most hit real weak.
(its a good concept build but let it stay just on pve side lol)

really tought bunkers would go for armor and heal power. (worse stats imo for pvp)

Lonewolf Kai.3682:

Aeolus.3615:

People still believe on high armor? just make max damage you can with max vit you can get from gear and your done for action.

Vitality > Armor

P.S search on forum/game what is the diference of heavy armor and light armor at the end you will see that invest in high armor its not that great.

Terrible advice. You need to get your facts straight.

Vitality is good against condition builds.
Armor is good against everything else.
If you want a bunker, get both.

Well bunker build i imagine something like 14k-16khealth with 3.6k armor and 1.2k+ at healing, this stats are the worse if you want to wvw, guardian will get so slow that when facing a good ranged class wont be able to get near.
Myself when playing low lvl character on wvw always choose bunkers for a free kill if they cant hit they wont regen, burst them 1st and flee let them waste they support skils and then its a easy kill, or in group make a massive KD combo due to low HP he will die fast, this is pretty effective while pulling bunkers from wals also.

Stark.1350:

How the hell do people have two legendaries, let alone almost 4? Do you play the game 24/7? I’m trying to get Predator, but the precursor alone is 600g, onyx lodestones for 100 of them will be almost 200 gold, 100 gold for icy runestones, and the stacks of gold needed for 250 of tier 6 crafting items. That’s over 1,000 gold of items. How in the hell do you farm that much that often?

Spend all time grinding in dungeons like people did UWSC all day

rizzo.1079:

Yeah jp’s need better loot. I’d be perfectly fine with rares dropping more often and ecto prices going down again…less money for me but makes life easier for people who are crafting.

Precursors are useless, same stats as the equivalent exotics, and I"m perfectly happy with the easiest way to get exotics being crafting.

Precursors are fine, just normal weapons that can make you grind… or get alot of gold.
I wonder how many fractals are needed for full ascended gear, and cant wait for ascended Armors, or the fix for legendaries stats. WvW will be fun to observe.

on-topic,
well toon mecanics are excelent the rest is kitten!

kokiman.2364:

alanis.6094:

“Here’s what we believe: If someone wants to play for a thousand hours to get an item that is so rare that other players can’t realistically acquire it, that rare item should be differentiated by its visual appearance and rarity alone, not by being more powerful than everything else in the game. Otherwise, your MMO becomes all about grinding to get the best gear. We don’t make grindy games — we leave the grind to other MMOs.”

blablabla A.Net said the same thing about GW1 and it was an extreme grindfest.

Wasnt about that time that gw1 cumunity dropped alot?

Adine.2184:

The reason for the increase is because of the changes coming down today . Rares from chests are only going to be per boss per account per day not per boss per character per day so speculators are driving up costs .

Chest are already 1 per day for each world bossname.GIF, and i hope they willl rise alot,by reallly alot!

i got some precursors, and might not make the legendaries becouse wvw does not drop all what is required for them.

~WTB Karma. lol

i would want rather a pure sanbox were servers had to build their own castles -.- than mobs on wvw…………………….
But with this rotation of servers fighthig each other this would also be boring at the end, with map being reseted at server change.

Its a action mmo, all action mmo have a fast paced mob respawn….

+1 here usually, roaming on GToB, and trying to get gear back :P

some player was “screaming” for people ot go to FA the other day lol

pve immortality, cleric gear + runes of melandru as weapons mace n’shield, for some champions i dont know if shield of the avenger still works fine now thats takes damage, might die in aoe 1hit (happens on WvW)

People still believe on high armor? just make max damage you can with max vit you can get from gear and your done for action.

Vitality > Armor

P.S search on forum/game what is the diference of heavy armor and light armor at the end you will see that invest in high armor its not that great.

Would not worth that, game is pretty(graphics) but nothing more…

Obtena.7952:

Aeolus.3615:

KensaiZen.3740:

Aren’t we supposed to get a 10% damage reduction in the next path? And which class is this that can burst a Guardian in 3-4 hits? I haven’t come across anything like this in WvW… well there was this one guy that hit like a truck.. Thief then I take it. But they are super glassy if they spec that way.

You are close but, all classes can make alot damage to guardian due low health pool as example w/o being glass cannons and mantain some good defense

Health pool isn’t the only factor that affects how much a beating a Guardian can take. Effective health is a combination of armor, health regain, HP, and blocks. Every guardian gets that. In addition if spec’ed for it, you can add in immunity and damage reduction. I’m limited in my experience with other classes but we probably have some of the highest effective HP a class can have because of all of those things. A skilled Guardian player doesn’t get bursted unless it’s a unfortunately coincidence.

It deppends if is PvP, or WvW all gameplays are quite different from each other, for what i have experienced, a boon rip necro or a good thief can shatter any guardian due the high mobility and better ways to get out of combat or restart combat , the way i found guardian to be better effective was with ~2.8k armor and arround 20k health and greatsword(game forces to DPS role all other weapons are pve) one thing that all we learned is that VIT > Amor .
A good thief or necro if finds a guardian w/o greatsword, the guardian wont even touch it :]

Daywolf.2630:

Adry.7512:

and GW2’s nr1 status is no lie.

Well with SWG pre-nge long gone…
Currently? that’s possible.
…though for sure if it were a sci-fi sandbox theme
At least there are no elves.

well….. sci fi i dont know but for sandbox, try Archage but is has Elves, if you search go for the latest Korean Betas, its being ported to EU and USA also.

./ninja Thread [ON]

KensaiZen.3740:

Aren’t we supposed to get a 10% damage reduction in the next path? And which class is this that can burst a Guardian in 3-4 hits? I haven’t come across anything like this in WvW… well there was this one guy that hit like a truck.. Thief then I take it. But they are super glassy if they spec that way.

You are close but, all classes can make alot damage to guardian due low health pool as example w/o being glass cannons and mantain some good defense

goldenwing.8473:

ANet has definitely moved the MMO genre forward with some innovative gameplay. There is a lot to like about this game.

(…
)Like I said, I’m curious to see where the game falls next year.

Thats curious couse i didnt see anything innovative besides graphics, what is like the diference between light armor and heavy armor 5% maybey 10%, ? i would not call that innovative.

I can agree with some of you guys, but here is my 2cents

As a gw1 player since 2004(not counting with olders mmo’s), as for me i didn’t like gw2, i tough the game could give more option as more interaction as in freedom, the character creation, i dont even know if this game as a character creation, just pick up a toon look from X toons and go.

So far there is no GvG and no Guild Hall, i can imagine an instanced zone in home district has player home will be a equivallent to HoM, same will happen to GH?
The Mist arenas make Random Arenas from GW1 a bewtifull place!
WvW = Alliance Batles(AB) with other name, shrines are now castles to PvD.
WvW deathmatch map concept nothing new and feel old fast, zerg from a, b, c now e and then d(nothing against zerg here, just the same gameplay from AB).
The actions of players on the map/server wont change anything, actually would be cool if each server history/map would change due players actions (no sandbox content on the future might be a mmo killer in my opinion).
GIF animated dragons with huge health pool, gets boring after spam key 1 to get some ectos.
History is to kitten short, and most of it looked like was a forced content.
The classes of the game and stats between them look weird, the concept of play what you want is not right but neither wrong.
Ascended gear was introduced in game way to late!

And what i liked, the artwork and graphism is outstanding, music epic as always character models movements while atacking look real smooth(wich other moo’s lack mostly), the quest system seems a good way for the player interact with what they need to do.

UnderdogSMO.9428:

Lillian Wandom Hale.7102:

HiddenNick.7206:

Lillian Wandom Hale.7102:

Karka island :

• Yaaay, empty island … No Vistas, No Hearts, No Reward …
• OMG THANK YOU FOR ….. what exactly ?

And a mountain that disappeared… That’s exciting! Or… No it’s not!

Lillian Wandom Hale.7102:

New Hearts/Vistas and reset :
Hell YEAH …otherwise when you complete a MAP (which this game has only a handfull ) why would you EVER GO BACK ? New Vistas/Hearts and Map Completion rewards might make you want to go back ^^

Ok, so for example I have 4 chars and I really don’t want to complete map with any more chars then one… And after getting the reword for completing map they can’t just take it back. So I’m completing map only once(ie. one version of it). So what the other versions of hearts are good for?

People go back to places for rewords or other reasons! Not for some heart tasks.

The only mistake that ANet did was to make leveling so easy and fast. That’s why maps are underused.

Lillian Wandom Hale.7102:

2 Weeks :

• there are more removed things then any here to stay things
• here to stay things are completly useless

So I say that pleasing you is just impossible. Even if would get your disheartening mountain you would say: “Nah… useless”. What’s not? Give me a real example! Because your just keep saying something like: “make something that’s not useless”. Where is any constructive feedback in that?!

I was pretty happy with GW1 for 5 years ^^
Got bored of GW2 after 2 days

Trust me …it AIN’T me

Its you I played GW1 for about a month and only played it for the Expacks after that. been playing this for about six and still enjoying it.

you had pre conceptions about what GW should be and thus couldnt like this game for being different Bios

That is the most dangerous thing that players can think of, i did it myself with so many mmo betas at that time (while waiting for gw2) i always tough gw2 would surpass any of the mmo’s i was in.. wich in the end the game now look limited and living history is just a name when they had a fence you need to fix.

Nay of the Ether.8913:

Calae.1738:

Sorry bud, there is no challenge in GW2.

I’ve looked for it. Can’t find it. Even if the challenge existed somewhere it wouldn’t be rewarding enough to do it. I don’t care if the reward is cosmetic. There’s nothing in the game that makes me fail continuously and be rewarding enough for me to succeed. I succeed at everything without even trying.

And yet you still log in, at least to the forums regularly. If it’s that much of a bore to you, why not just move on? Hanging around here for the purpose of just hanging around is only going to turn you into a forum-troll eventually.

Just an advice for Calae.1738 : wait for Arch Age and next sandbox mmo’s.

simple, make a zerk/valk thief and play behind your target, kill fast and you dont even bother to go stealth unless to reset when facing multiple adversaries.

1 ranger(kd) and 1 mesmer
2 thiefs
1 mesmer and 1 thief
2 mesmers isnt bad either
2 lightning eles

the tin foil armor should hold a litle more due small health pool(dont talk about boons becouse easilly removed and health regen is useless)

and i tough they were easy to make, since i see so manny!