Guild Wars 2

oZii.2864:

Aether McLoud.1975:

LOL you can’t keep protection up “almost indefinitely”. You could for 1 or 2 days when magnetic grasp was bugged but that was fixed very swiftly.

Then you have terrible rotations or something. You can keep protection up pretty easily.

Swap to earth out of earth,

Go water for frost aura, Air for shocking aura, out of air into fire. Wait for Earth to come back up swap to earth. Swap out of earth into water (because shocking aura will be the first aura to come back up) Swap to fire when its of CD back to earth air should be coming back up Swap to air Shocking aura repeat.

I just taught you how to keep protection up almost permanently (thats without adding in armor of earth or fire aura) this is just standing around doing nothing.

Your welcome

Oh look that thief just murdered you through protection because you were busy doing some petty dance instead of actually trying to fight him.

You’re a terrible player and have no idea how elementalists work so please stop posting your illogical bullkitten all over this board.

Also, *You’re welcome

oZii.2864:

Aether McLoud.1975:

Heal isn’t a role. Every class can be bunker or damage. And no ele cannot be both at the same time. So your argument is invalid.

Do you read? The OP is claiming not jack of all trades. How you damage doesn’t have anything to do with the “trades”.

Grab a thief and go bunker tell me how that works dropping aggro in stealth is not bunker.

What the frak are you talking about? At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought.

Jack of all trades, master of none, means you can do EVERYTHING but nothing really best. By frakking definition, even from arenanet. Yet as countless posters have brought up we are very far away from being able to do everything – in fact Engineers can do WAY more stuff than we can, yet they don’t have to pay the “jack of all trades” tax.

LOL you can’t keep protection up “almost indefinitely”. You could for 1 or 2 days when magnetic grasp was bugged but that was fixed very swiftly.

Heal isn’t a role. Every class can be bunker or damage. And no ele cannot be both at the same time. So your argument is invalid.

loseridoit.2756:

Nikkinella.8254:

^Why can’t LF be like Mesmer’s Blink? Drastically lower cooldown than LF AND still has a stunbreaker.

mesmer have very little passive defense.

LOL. And eles have? Eles don’t even have active defenses like mesmers do.

ITT: OP thinks he’s awesome and special, plays like a noob against noobs, gets called out on in and flames everyone who thinks he isn’t a mesmer god. Also, reported.

To be a true jack of all trades, eles lack:
- Smoke fields
- Ethereal Fields
- Light Fields
- Dark Fields
- Poison Fields

- Aegis
- Retaliation
- Torment
- Confusion
- Poison
- Fear

As long as we don’t have access to all these things, we are no jack of all trades, and therefore all arguments citing that as a reason why eles need to suck kitten are invalid.

Churning Earth goes on full cooldown if you get CCed while casting it instead of the 4 seconds cooldown other skills go on if you are interrupted while casting them.

@Demon weaponswap sigils proc on attunement swap. I thought that would have been common knowledge by now.

@MODERATOR: Please sticky this thread.

@THREAD:

Signet Mastery also doesn’t reduce Signet of Restoration cooldown in PVP.

Dragon’s Tooth doesn’t do any damage if you get CCed after casting it but before it lands (this is often a gamebreaker in PVP).

Fire → Steam → Smoke

Your thoughtless comment amuses me.

Yeah minor adept air is completely useless, just like the minor fire one.

I never understood how we’re supposed to be kings of versatility, yet engineers are WAY more versatile than us. They have more unique combo fields, finishers, boons and conditions than us.

Thieves and Mesmers can stealth through class mechanics.
Engineers, Rangers and Elementalists underwater can stealth trough combo fields.

It’s a logical conclusion that if you want to buff fire for eles that giving them a smokefield would be a valid choice because it’s already there underwater.

Just DPS him down.

Shar.3402:

Xsorus.2507:

I’ll tell you why…Because playing SPvP in this game is like playing Civil War Map in SWTOR..

In otherwords..I’d rather put my balls in a Vice..

How anyone can think this game will ever be taken seriously as an Esport when a game like SWTOR has Huttball…which is a 1000 times more interesting and fun than any map in this game is hilarious.

lol, huttball sucked. You could literally win by having a chain of pulls/leaps with jedi guardians/consulars (or the sith equivalents), really fun, yeah…not.

Yeah as fun as Huttball was on my Assassin because he could score a goal pretty much 10 seconds after getting the ball, it was completely unbalanced and the team with the most speed boosters/invulnerbility won no matter what.

silentnight warrior.2714:

If you think its weak i will not discuss that. Still its better than the elites warrior have.
That is the point.

That’s not a point because it’s not better. Every ele would gladly switch Whirlwind for a version of your signet of rage.

So all these bugs that are STILL THERE SINCE LAUNCH will never get fixed? Great QA team Arenanet, great QA team…

No, why would I? Female Norn are the epitome of awesome.

LOL at thinking Ele’s Whirlwind is a viable elite skills.

Demon.5082:

I think this has already been stated and added to the elementalist bug list.

The one that just got un-stickied a few days ago? Yeah I’m sure they’ll fix that bug in the next decade, at best.

Demon.5082:

Stone Hide 2 – Grants aegis for 2 seconds when attuning to earth.

I like this very much. We are supposed to be the most versatily profession, yet for example engineers have WAY more different conditions, boons and combo fields and combo finishers than us, and even all in the same spec.

We only have a VERY limited amount of different conditions, boons and combos available. IMHO to be truly versatile we need to have almost every condition/boon/combo available to use (some more, some less).

Those are way too few points into arcane. You’re gonna get stuck autoattacking a lot while waiting for your attunement cooldowns.

AFAIK you actually need to rez someone to get the fire buff, AND it only lasts 15 seconds.

Sunspot should make a short smoke field when attuning to fire. It would give some very limited access to stealth (just like engineers) and is not unheard of for eles seeing as we can already stealth underwater.

Sunspot should make a short smoke field when attuning to fire. It would give some very limited access to stealth (just like engineers) and is not unheard of for eles seeing as we can already stealth underwater.

Here’s a link to my build with all the runes and stuff: http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-k33;2BJ-V0z47N-Z0;9;5J-JT;108;228-45ASR;4Ewk2Ewk24JV

LightningBlaze.4913:

Aether McLoud.1975:

LightningBlaze.4913:

Aether McLoud.1975:

LightningBlaze.4913:

Aether McLoud.1975:

LightningBlaze.4913:

That’s why thieves are the easiest profession to kill as a burst ele and so is this glass cannon ele. He will die wayyy before he even comes close to kill a decent player with this build. Only bad players will die towards a glass cannon ele with this horrible build.

LOL. You REALLY need to L2P and actually L2shutpwhenyoudon’tknowwhatyou’retalkingabout.

lol L2p when I play way better than any of you guys debating this build is great. If not come at me in sor bg with this build and Ill show it to you how amateur this will make you look against a decent player.

LOL Internet toughguy.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_RvC9h7ZJmZ4/S7MJxZZWVcI/AAAAAAAAAI0/W_LpkLVcso8/s1600/wow-nerd-south-park-cambiojoe-hoovdizzle.jpg

Stop posting your life and avoiding the topic.

How about you bring up a valid argument? And no, “ME AWESOME YOU BADDIES” is not a valid argument. So frak off.

That’s how your ignorant mind interpret my posts. Never claim myself to be awesome (at most decent) while you are baddies. I said and still stand on my point that this build is horrible. It might work on spvp like Raif stated, when one or more are not focusing target on you but in wvw even on 1v1 this is an amateur build if you don’t have mostly/entirety bunker gears.

As if build or skill matters in zerg vs zerg…

He has a point though, AFAIK the only viable condition build until now was an Engineer, and now Necros. That’s 2 out of 8 classes. Condition builds need to be buffed for the other classes.

Toxic.9821:

I apologize I see it now V,VI thank you very much

Read the descriptions, I also posted what’s good in air and water

Toxic.9821:

Which major traits would I be picking in each of them?

I just wrote that…

Winds.3087:

Aether McLoud.1975:

Blurred Frenzy is still an evade, sho how is the melee defense screwed exactly?

Asurmir.7956:

Are you saying that mesmer can no longer be a force within the 600 range? Because, if you are, then I’m afraid that you cannot help me.

Try activating shocking aura when mesmer use blurred frenzy on you, and you’ll see why!

And you thought that was balanced before? This is nowhere near the nerf that Mesmers make it out to be.

LightningBlaze.4913:

Aether McLoud.1975:

LightningBlaze.4913:

Aether McLoud.1975:

LightningBlaze.4913:

That’s why thieves are the easiest profession to kill as a burst ele and so is this glass cannon ele. He will die wayyy before he even comes close to kill a decent player with this build. Only bad players will die towards a glass cannon ele with this horrible build.

LOL. You REALLY need to L2P and actually L2shutpwhenyoudon’tknowwhatyou’retalkingabout.

lol L2p when I play way better than any of you guys debating this build is great. If not come at me in sor bg with this build and Ill show it to you how amateur this will make you look against a decent player.

LOL Internet toughguy.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_RvC9h7ZJmZ4/S7MJxZZWVcI/AAAAAAAAAI0/W_LpkLVcso8/s1600/wow-nerd-south-park-cambiojoe-hoovdizzle.jpg

Stop posting your life and avoiding the topic.

How about you bring up a valid argument? And no, “ME AWESOME YOU BADDIES” is not a valid argument. So frak off.

LightningBlaze.4913:

Aether McLoud.1975:

LightningBlaze.4913:

That’s why thieves are the easiest profession to kill as a burst ele and so is this glass cannon ele. He will die wayyy before he even comes close to kill a decent player with this build. Only bad players will die towards a glass cannon ele with this horrible build.

LOL. You REALLY need to L2P and actually L2shutpwhenyoudon’tknowwhatyou’retalkingabout.

lol L2p when I play way better than any of you guys debating this build is great. If not come at me in sor bg with this build and Ill show it to you how amateur this will make you look against a decent player.

LOL Internet toughguy.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_RvC9h7ZJmZ4/S7MJxZZWVcI/AAAAAAAAAI0/W_LpkLVcso8/s1600/wow-nerd-south-park-cambiojoe-hoovdizzle.jpg

Try 0/20/0/20/30

Fury and Swiftness on Auras, and 20% less cooldown in air,
Regen on Cantrips and Cooldown reduction in water (or remove a condition when swapping to water)
V, VI and Evasive Arcana in Arcane.

With Valkyrie amulet and 2-3 cantrips.

LightningBlaze.4913:

That’s why thieves are the easiest profession to kill as a burst ele and so is this glass cannon ele. He will die wayyy before he even comes close to kill a decent player with this build. Only bad players will die towards a glass cannon ele with this horrible build.

LOL. You REALLY need to L2P and actually L2shutpwhenyoudon’tknowwhatyou’retalkingabout.

milo.6942:

Aether McLoud.1975:

Interpret Interrupt.3824:

In a discussion with some WvW guys, we came up with a conclusion as to why people do not come over to spvp. It is not cosmetics of armor or weapons.
The answer is much simpler.
———-They cannot run the same build that they usually run in their respective game format.

What does this mean?
———-They cannot achieve the same stat spread across attack, defense, crit chance, and crit damage.

The end result?
————-The build does not play nearly the same. So effectively it is a different build or a different game altogether.

So why leave my comfortable game mode with the build I know how to play with the stats tailored to what I want?
———-There is no good reason.
And that is why people do not cross game modes.

TLDR: PVE Players don’t want to learn new things or improve their game.

and really, why should they bother?

Because of the adrenaline rush of beating actual human beings instead of simply doing A then B then C against a predetermined computer opponent?

Protection could simply reduce condition damage (or duration) in addition to power damage.

Daecollo.9578:

JonathanSharp.7094:

Thanks for the feedback. We intend to watch things in the meta and make small adjustments accordingly for ALL classes, including the Necro.

Yes, that is why I quit the game for RIFT mostly. Warriors are not garbage there.

Haha lol Rift pvp. That was even more unbalanced than Age of Conan…

Winds.3087:

Asurmir.7956:

You show me the pvp proof, and I will jump ship.

It was like this, I still can’t accept screwed mesmer’s best melee defense in last patch. :c

Blurred Frenzy is still an evade, sho how is the melee defense screwed exactly?

Was some RTL nerf needed? Sure, probably. But so many and so severe nerfs? Nope.

RTL has gone from 1500 range being able to use skills and switch attunements, 15 seconds cd to 1200 range 40 seconds cd, no skills or attunement swap possible. The CD increase alone is insane. IMHO it should have 30 seconds cd, 15 if it hits, and also count hits if they are blocked. And alway 15 seconds out of combat.

Winds.3087:

I don’t get why anet thinks ele shouldn’t be mobile. Why did they add easy 100% swiftness uptime, various blinks and dashes then?

Obviously, I was wrong, since the best use of a mesmer is staying out of range whilst clones do the damage.

Melee mesmer does way more damage, besides, full ranged is for wuss.

I don’t understand this either. Ele is the profession with least health and armor and no active defense at all (a la stealth or blocking). So why SHOULDN’T it be one of the most mobile professions?

LightningBlaze.4913:

Whoever this Zoose guy is, my point still stands. This build is horrible. I am completely sure he dies really quickly in spvp and specially in wvw. Another burst build s/d ele with any of the builds i suggested will kill him in one sec if he doesn’t have the gears complete bunker.

LOL. It seems you are just a horrible ele player. The build is awesome. And for a berzerker burst build it still has incredible sustain. And it can kill people in a few seconds if they don’t dodge enough.

nakoda.4213:

Gorni.1764:

Aether McLoud.1975:

Kain Francois.4328:

I hope ANET considers keeping this though. This doesn’t seem too broken, but it’s just plain awesome,g iving the engineer a completely new role!

(Only the Engineer is capable of flight!)

Ride the Lightning (ele) was like this a LONG time ago. Trust me, we players can’t have nice things. This is going to get nerfed, and if I know ANET, it’s going to get nerfed HARD.

exactly what i wanted to say just now

Rocket Boots do not have an AOE knockback at the end either.

Neither does RTL so what’s your point?

Nikkinella.8254:

Actually, you really don’t need EA in a good burst build. The whole point is to kill them as quickly as possible by doing as much damage as possible. So the healing from EA isn’t important. Kill them before they get the chance to even hit you.

EA also gives blast finishers, burning and most importantly, an aoe blind. Also the OPs build isn’t really a burst build seeing as it has 500 healing and uses valkyrie.

emikochan.8504:

Aether McLoud.1975:

emikochan.8504:

It’s half cooldown when you hit, glass is half full XD Either way they wanted it to be used in combat like mesmer mobility.

If I heard the last podcast correctly they want the mobility to be on the flaming greatsword. At least I hope that doesn’t get nerfed…

Actually they said that they are gonna nerf the greatsword mobility…

Not sure really I was listening to the podcast and they said they wanted to “look at” fgs, it’s a mystery.

They’re probably just going to screw over the 4-against-a-wall high damage ability T_T

To paraphrase: “Using greatsword, great for mobility, looking into that for balance.”

Ever single time when Arenanet said that “they will look into it” since launch, HUGE nerfs have followed. So you’d better prepare for the complete destruction of all movement skills on the greatsword.

Asurmir.7956:

RTL is anymore reliable of an escape skill than Rush.

Yes, Rush is affected by cripple and chill, but it is also affected by swiftness. And, when traited, can break through immobilize.

RTL is unaffected by swiftness, cripple, and chill. However, immobilize can stop it dead in its tracks.

I’d rather have Rush. At least I am still moving. And since on a greatsword with another movement ability and a short cooldown, I’m positive that I can get away.

Also you can use instant skills while rushing, but can’t use anything (not even attunement swap) while RTLing.

Interpret Interrupt.3824:

In a discussion with some WvW guys, we came up with a conclusion as to why people do not come over to spvp. It is not cosmetics of armor or weapons.
The answer is much simpler.
———-They cannot run the same build that they usually run in their respective game format.

What does this mean?
———-They cannot achieve the same stat spread across attack, defense, crit chance, and crit damage.

The end result?
————-The build does not play nearly the same. So effectively it is a different build or a different game altogether.

So why leave my comfortable game mode with the build I know how to play with the stats tailored to what I want?
———-There is no good reason.
And that is why people do not cross game modes.

TLDR: PVE Players don’t want to learn new things or improve their game.

emikochan.8504:

It’s half cooldown when you hit, glass is half full XD Either way they wanted it to be used in combat like mesmer mobility.

If I heard the last podcast correctly they want the mobility to be on the flaming greatsword. At least I hope that doesn’t get nerfed…

Actually they said that they are gonna nerf the greatsword mobility…

Signet of Restoration doesn’t get its cooldown reduced by Signet Mastery.
Signet of Air gives only a 10% speedboost with Written in Stone active when signet of air is on cooldown.