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LOL how about you play against real pvper (i.e. paid tournaments) instead of wvwvw against noobish pvers, then you’ll see that ele is balanced (d/d at least the other weapons need buffs).

You already ARE using your PVE character. Just not his equipment. Which is the best decision ever made for MMO pvp.

SteepledHat.1345:

Aether McLoud.1975:

IMHO time warp either needs to:

- Apply to friends an foes in it
- Apply the +50% damage taken debuff
- Only work for the mesmer

Two of those points contradict.

Either: one of the other of two…

Ele is one of the best 1v1 classes.

IMHO time warp either needs to:

- Apply to friends an foes in it
- Apply the +50% damage taken debuff
- Only work for the mesmer

Strang.8170:

Aether McLoud.1975:

Does this happen in sPVP too? I’ve seen some strange selfrallies there too and never knew where they came from?

Mechanics of the skills are the same the too, so it should do that yea.

Well pvp uses a different ruleset than wvw so has anyone confirmed this in pvp?

Tornade really needs to reflect projectiles. A thief can reflect projectiles by spinning fast, but an immaterial tornado can’t? WHAT THE kitten?

Advent.6193:

Hmmph. I’m surprised none of the anti-Mesmer QQ has been started about Mass Invisibility. Mobile AoE stealth + party DPS?

Because you don’t count as being on a point in stealth. And you need to capture points to win tournaments.

Say it’s the first team fight 4v4 on keep after the match starts. The team with the mesmer gets the point 100% because he uses time warp which either destroys the other team or forces them to retreat. And once you have keep you won’t lose it again with a bunker guard. THAT is why time warp needs nerfs.

That’s a brilliant idea! (the non-elite conjure one)

Does this happen in sPVP too? I’ve seen some strange selfrallies there too and never knew where they came from?

LOL at…

- people being to dumb to interrupt ether renewal (there are countless ways to)
- people thinking ele is easy to play

This thread is bad and you should feel bad.

Khyras.8021:

Needing to buy […] to be able to pvp in some game is a laughable concept.

Like some kind of… I don’t know… subscription fee?

2 Words:

Underwater Ranger

Wise.8025:

Speaking of opinions. I just wanted to say wtf are you talking about? Do you only play hot join games or something and die repeatedly vs glass cannons?

Yeah, OP seems completely utterly clueless and REALLY needs to L2P. Warriors are pretty much the worst pvp profession right now (and have been for quite some time).

a) 10 seconds is a long time, and OP apparently just stood there AFK
b) OP “only” has 1600 toughness and we don’t know if he had both earth toughness buffs up like in the screenshot when hit.

My opinion is that if you don’t know jack, stop trying to tell those who clearly do (i.e. the devs) what to do. 2x sigil of energy is overpowered? Stopped reading right there.

Sigils share a cooldown, you can never have 2 proc or weapon switch sigils at the same time.

Shukran.4851:

ele staff is quite awesome in tf.
it seems you are confusing strategy with balance.

Since the EA nerf S/D is way better in teamfights than staff. While at the same time being WAY better in 1v1 situations. Staff for ele is close to useless.

ThiBash.5634:

Hmm…I see. What would that accomplsih exactly, other than making bunker builds even more powerful relative to dps builds?

It would gives u 20 trait points. Because right now every build needs 20 arcane for the attunement cooldown, and 10 of those are bound to elemental attunement for the boons.

Azrael.1408:

And the trait passive bonus will go to hell. Also, Mesmers will want lower shatter CD etc…
Anyway I posted my reasons why I dislike the idea above.

Shattering is nowhere near as important for mesmers as attunement switching is for eles.

Staff being only a support weapon is a huge problem. We have no available 1200 range weapon that can be used for real damage specs.

Attunement cooldown should be 11 seconds by default, and 8 with 30 points into arcane. Also we should get the respective boons by default when switching, and elemental attunement should only make it so allies get these boons too.

That would give us builds without 20 points arcane.

NZ Scyther.8675:

Or you can switch weapons and use Dagger/Focus. That is an offensive Water spec. Group that with Vulnerability on crits and Piercing Shards (20% more damage to vulnerable foes in water attunement).

Dagger water autoattack stacks vulnerbility…

Arheundel.6451:

Actually the set with most condition removals untreated is scepter/focus, in a team fight nothing beat the staff for condition removal when treated with EA and cantrips, hence why I’ve stated that staff got by far the most condition removals..as group play.

But S/D with cantrips and EA still has more (group) condition removal than staff because of it’s innate removal skills coupled with way more blast finishers than staff.

Without unending blast finisher from EA for water fields staff is simply a useless weapon IMHO.

Arheundel.6451:

So one-shotting people is fine…but survive the burst is not, but unless you go tanky build..you get one-shotted, furthermore thieves will say :

-“l2p ,dodge noob”

And if you go more tanky:

-“l2p noob , bunker are OP”

Either way you’re always a noob, but thief players are apparently the “Highly skilled” players in this game. it takes skills to do this

perma-stealth thief
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSbw8Cpy-3s

…laughable

Quoted for much truthery.

Josh P.1296:

Aether McLoud.1975:

a) An elite with a cooldown below 2 minutes
b) An elite that we cast ourselfs instead of a pet, a transform, or a new weapon
c) Avatar State elite

Those ideas wouldn’t have to be exclusive

^^^ An Avatar elite skill depending on what attunement you’re in at the time would be hektik as. Dunno why they didn’t do that from the start.

Yeah. I can see why we have elemental and greatsword (they are just more awesome versions of normal utility skills) but tornado is just wrong. Indead of it we should simply go Avatar, which changes your 20 weapon skills into more awesome versions. Could still have a nerfed version of tornado in it in earth or air then.

I’d kill for such an elite.

LOL at all the people thinking of this fabled D/D ele with 30/30/30/30/30 spec. And lol at people thinking D/D or staff has the most condition removal (hint: it’s S/D).

D/D is the only thing close to viable for eles (and according to the defs it’s still rough, aka needs some fine buffs/bugfixes). Every other ele weapon needs to be put up to that level.

No because generosity shares cooldown with battle.

Are you kitten or do you just play one? The 10 finger typing system means your hand rests on ASDF and you’ll be able to reach 50% of the keyboard without looking at it kitten

CANNOT FACEPALM HARD ENOUGH.

IMHO make elemental attunement passive for the ele. Let the trait change it so it gives the boons upon switching to allies too. Then lower the switching cooldown by default to 11 seconds, maybe nerf some things, and then we wouldn’t have to spec 20+ points into arcane with every build.

ArcticRed.3068:

Aether McLoud.1975:

ArcticRed.3068:

Anyone with a gaming mouse, a couple of weeks of practise and an IQ higher than their footprint will find that the skill level needed to play Ele once muscle memory is learned is on par with all the other classes barring Thief… Thief is ludicrously easy to play.

Anyone with an IQ higher than their footprint knows 10finger typing and is therefore able to press more than 4 different buttons.

You play ur mouse with ur third hand? 0-o

a) An elite with a cooldown below 2 minutes
b) An elite that we cast ourselfs instead of a pet, a transform, or a new weapon
c) Avatar State elite

Those ideas wouldn’t have to be exclusive

ArcticRed.3068:

Anyone with a gaming mouse, a couple of weeks of practise and an IQ higher than their footprint will find that the skill level needed to play Ele once muscle memory is learned is on par with all the other classes barring Thief… Thief is ludicrously easy to play.

Anyone with an IQ higher than their footprint knows 10finger typing and is therefore able to press more than 4 different buttons.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Combo

Kilger.5490:

How does air elemental randomly give you swiftness boon? Wish the elementals abilities were listed somewhere

It only does in combat so it’s no use for just getting around. Also, the wiki lists all of the elemental skills.

ArcticRed.3068:

Bunzy.8674:

when elementalists were considered a rare and skilled class…. nowdays they are everywhere, not fun.

I find your thought process rather funny.
When was Elementalist considered a rare and skilled class? I live in WvW and there are always 100 Eles AoE’ing keeps lol… hardly rare or skilled.

Lately i will admit that most have given up their staffs for D/D, and most suck at it. But they will get better.

Lol @ you for thinking you where rare or skilled for playing they class

LOL @ you if you think ele is anything else then the most complex class in the game. Even the devs said it has the highest skillcap by design. And WVW isn’t pvp, it’s a zerg. It doesn’t count for anything.

Man it sucks that you have to pve to wvw.

Everything is good in pve. In pvp though, greatsword gets you killed.

Most eles I see are insanely bad. You can clearly tell the people who main the class from the beginning from thos just trying it out / trying to go with the apparent FOTM.

Thrym.9436:

Fire: A low damage DD+reasonable burn condition, A hovering spike that does good damage+ more burn, and a GTAOE that does good damage and gives vigor, which is nice(but hardly tough to attain). It can keep a burn going ad-infinitum and has two blast finishers(which are quite handy) but overall DD damage is significantly less than dagger or even staff.

Phoenix also removes ALL conditions on a 10 seconds cooldown which makes it pretty insane.

Everything you do, even attunement switching, counts as casting a spell.

It’s a trait…

Earth is still a blast finisher.

Completely agree. Abilities can never be balanced with haste in the game. See 100blades: Completely overpowered and pretty much unstoppable with haste, completely underpowered and slower than George W. Bush reading a childrens book without haste.

E5 > W5 = Stealth
E5 > W33 = Area Stealth

Probably a tooltip bug.

urinfamousr.7631:

Shukran.4851:

guess you are rank 1-15 max

lol dude rank has nothing to do with the skill, went from 1-20 in a few hours on my lvl 2 mesmer moa ftw !! let it remain OP’d

LOL. No you didn’t.

Mogar.9216:

Aether McLoud.1975:

Mogar.9216:

lol, this is what you do. Mist form , lighting flash , switch to air for swiftness then rtl . No one can catch you.

What a waste of cooldowns.

lol you rather die ?

Use mistform → don’t die.
Use RTL → don’t die.
Use Lighting Flash → don’t die.

I just saved you from 3 deaths instead of only 1 like you did.

Most posts are discussion the lack of ranking, matchmaking, game modes, maps, bad tournament structure, lack of players in paids, bunker heavy meta, etc.

Besides a few minor issues balance in this game (that’s out for what, ~4 month?) is WAY better than in other MMOs that have been out for 5+ years.

Reading this very forum might enlighten you.

Jenia.2418:

hundreds of issue pertaining to spvp now? Class balance is the main spvp issue right now.

It most certainly is not.

If you want to do medium damage, lose staff IMHO.