Guild Wars 2

Josh Davis.6015:

Hail mesmers,

Thy request for stickiness hath been granted.

Enjoyeth!

/sneaks away

Omg thank you so much :D

Xyonon.3987:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBGUcKbnINo

you’re welcome.

Lol, oh that guy.

A necro who makes a “the ulimate damage hybrid build” for every profession, but in reality it sucks for eerytjing but necro :/.

His motivation was something like: “all mesmers I meet in dungeons are too squishy, have 0 support and only do 1k dps. So to show this community how to properly play, ive made a full berserker build that does kitteny damage and has no support at all.”.

Dont listen to him :P

Or maybe the OP meant the Apex Predator, which is also a hybrid, and burried somewhere in the 2nd page of the forum. It will be back ro page 1 soon, because he self bumps it x.x

I tried going full mantra 2 days ago in Spvp, and I was horrible :P

10/30/0/30/0 with sword, pistol/scepter, sword/greatsword.

For the first time, it felt like I lost all Mesmer related skill, and lost nearly every 1vs1, or I get zerged and have no means of escape xD.

I spent more time watching my coolowns and mantra charges than I was watching the combat :P. it had alot of healing though, its funny.

It was a traumatizing experience x.x

Maybe you’re more lucky than me :P

Yea, full berserker isnt a good idea for zergs :P

I personally like going with 2050 armor, which is achieved by making the helm shoulderpiece coat and skirt knight’s :P.

Some still think its way too low, and they go full knight or soldier, but the 2050 armor really makes a difference compared to nothing :P.

10/30/0/0/30 is actually a roaming build, but we dont really have full zerg builds anymore, so you can kinda run anything :/.

skcamow.3527:

I just PM’d our humble plea directly to Grouch. We’ll see what happens …

You deserve a medal :P.

Which reminds me of early today… I messaged PewDiePie on youtube today with a very much needed suggestion… Hope he can reply to it :/. I’d imagine he gets like a thousand messages daily (im being super-optimistic here).

It hopefully isnt that bad with Grouch, I dont even know who he is :D

edit: while were waiting, everyone should put the link to the Lyssa’s Grimoire in their signature :D. Last one to link it is a soft egg butterfly c:

Just wanted to mention: Illusionary Counter on the scepter is an offensive skill, not defensive. In Spvp (where damage is lower than WvW) It will do about 9k damage if the target keeps moving. Using 6 torment sigils would turn that in about 13k damage :o

Condition builds are amazing for pvp, but sucks in pve due to the way we applicate it, and it gets capped with other condition users. Besides, power damage is just higher :/.

@Xyonon Mesmers have alot of acces to conditions, you just have to look for it :P.

Trident is condition damage.. kind of. They nerfed it though, and now it’s just a below average power weapon.

Underwater is a joke anyway, and arenanet doesn’t really care about making our skills fun or usefull :/

Phantasm summons also go on full cooldown if you dodge them O.o

You should dodge the phantasm, not the summon. Or just block or blind or something, thats the counter. They also die pretty easily, so you can try to aoe them down.

Xyonon.3987:

Why are you changing the skill? You are just creating new ones instead of fixing the old:

Mimic

• Absorbs every projectile for 4 seconds.
• You gain stability and block every other attack for the same duration.
• After this you got a charge and may shoot all the skills on a single target you wish.

How to instantly destroy a siege :

1. Make sure you have mimic equipped. (warning: skipping this step will result to possible letal damage to your body)
2. Jump off your safe walls, and once you get hit, activate mimic. (make sure there is an enemy zerg attacking)
3. Just before your channel ends, run through the gate, to safety.
4. Find a spot where you can pew pew the enemy siege, to deal 133333337 damage with echo.

Even if the cooldown was 320, everyone would run Mesmer :P

I used to play shatter Mesmer on a team, but then they found someone that runs OP builds, and not ‘useless builds like shatter’ x.x

I was kind of glad when they added solo Q, but every time I decided to try it yet again, there’s just angry people that type angrily or afk people so it becomes 4v5 or 3v5 :/.

I just don’t want to run lockdown warrior… it’s so easy that it’s not fun.

Really, I played about 8% of my total matches on warrior, and I feel like I already “mastered” (there isn’t much to do, really) it :/.

75% matches are on Mesmer x.x

edit: oh, I forgot to mention that I would love to play with you all, if I could get on an NA server :P.

phokus.8934:

I’d like to know how you’re calculating damage per second in this game.

Make a video, count the total damage and divide by the number of seconds it lasts :P.

Or just calculate it. A swordsman hits every 3 seconds, and if it crits 5000 every single time, it does 5000/3=1666DPS or something.

This reminds of when I was 8ish, and wante to play GTA because everyone else was doing it…

“Ok, I’ll buy it for you, but if you get violent, you’re not allowed to play anymore :o”, my mum said.

I played for a few hours and I got bored. While some kids dont, I definitely did know the difference between reality and a game :P. I just dont like it when people get hurt, and I still dont. I didnt mind shooting people in a game, though.

When I firsted tried an mmo on my 12th, the chat definitely did impact me. People are trolling and badmouthing at you wherever I go, I took it personal and became depressed all the time. I guess it’s just an experience you have to… Experience. When doing something for the first time online, most people expect to find real people, but trolls are just the negative parts of personalities whom hide behind anonymity on the iternet :/. I wouldn’t want to unlearn what I learnt the .

Anyway, yea, let them play warrior.

Uhm, as far as I know, a build of the month contest only takes about 1 month, the new balance patch will come at like halfway through December. It seems to me that we still have time :o.

Oh well :P

Amethyst Lure.5624:

I 100% wuv everything keenlam said in her post.

I think shields are cool, but only if they are small. Bucklers/wristguards etc is just so unloved by designers, out of convenience probably. :)

Fixed that for you.

I also agree with everything, especially the canine weapons. Instead of red vs blue, dogs vs cats in pvp :D

Heres some skill ideas for dogs:

1. claw claw your target, and deal mediocre damage.
   claw claw again, dealing the same pitiful damage you just did, again.
   bite attack with a final, embarassingly ineffective bite.
2. [CD 4] growl growl at your foe, and give them fury and might.
   [stealth attack] bark let out an ear piercing bark that does damage and severely annoys nearby foes and allies. If those affected are dogs, they automatically bark back.
3. [CD 10, clone] illusionary drool summon an illusionary pug to pounce and knockdown your foe, and drool on them. Gain stealth.
4. [CD 15] sniff sniff a nearby target, applying vulnerability to them. Has a chance to be at an innapropriate spot, which makes them feel awkward or embarassed, applying more vulnerability and fury.
5. [CD 20] phantasmal dog whisperer summon a phantasmal dog whisperer, that summons pugs to knockdown and drool on it’s target and nearby foes.

I tried keeping it fairly realistic, what do you think :P?

I wonder if Arenanet is aware of Mesmer build diversity atm :/.

Jon mentioned only shatter, phantasm and mantra. Where is the lockdown and condition? Or even bunker and support :o.

I hope he simply forgot, because if they aren’t aware of other builds, well, it would have a negative effect on my trust for them to change Mesmer properly >__<.

Xyonon.3987:

Superior Rune of Tormenting

• (1): +28 Condition Damage.png Condition Damage
• (2): 15% Torment Duration
• (3): +55 Condition Damage.png Condition Damage
• (4): 15% Torment Duration
• (5): +100 Condition Damage.png Condition Damage
• (6): 15% Torment Duration and AoE 2 Stacks of Torment on Heal (20s cooldown)

This rune is terrible, even for a condition build. I can image some uses in PvP, but definitly not PvE. We have exactly one torment skill wich shouldn’t be the main source of damage. It’s a defensive ability. Also additional 2 stacks of torment on heal are meh, and with 20s cd its just weak.

I agree with everythin here, just one thing.

Illusionary counter is best used as an offensive skill in a condiion build, it can do up to 8k damage in Spvp :P. a single block doesnt really do alot.

BlackDevil.9268:

@ menace
Now you do it again…

2. I am not forcing anyone to play it. But I want them to at least Try it out and tell me what they thought of it by PMing me or even posting it here. I doubt anyone has even tried it. I just know that for a fact, lol.

Why? Why do you need other people to ‘’try it out’‘? It’s your build, not theirs. Like I said before, you wont make a build that suits everyone and everything. It just seems like you want people to pm you: ‘’OMG MENANCE I LOVE YOUR BUILD’‘. You’re trying way too hard for that. Makes you look pathetic, that’s why I make reply’s like these, so people make up their minds.

at least 50% of the posts in this thread is from you. There hasn’t been 1 single day that your post wasn’t on the front page. Why? Because you keep on refreshing it. If it moves to 2nd page and then lost in the forum, let it be. If you think it’s a good build, then okay let it be, but don’t try to ‘’at least try’’, aka force people to play your build.

Then another point, why didn’t you make a video yet? I could make a 10mins WvW video every +/- 5 hours of roaming. How come you can’t make 1 within a month? And now ask people to ’’1vs1’’ them? Sure I can also show everyone how I faceroll 1v1 with phantasm or interrupt stuff, but it’s not gonna prove if the build is good or not.

I’m not disgracing your build, I’m annoyed by the way you act.

Okay, let me just call some friends. I know necro’s, engies and thieves that destroy 99% of all mesmers.

He wants people to try it before people judge it for being bad, as has happened alot in the past.

Also, not everyone wants to dedicate their full free time to making a video.

With my last duelling one:
Day 1: recorded ans edited 30%
Month 2: recorded and filtered.
Month 3: edited the rest and uploaded a preview render.
Day 2, month 3: optimalised, made a few edits, and uploaded the full version.

It took me about 12 hours over 4 days in 3 months :p. (not including failed remdering and previews, which was like 14 hours)

I kind of have a busy life, so just something to compare it to :p.

Firstly, it’s a really interesting and unique concept for a build, and a fun name :P.

Secondly,

Desperate decoy is very unreliable, and youll be nearly always better off using something like far reaching manipulations (because you like teleports). Hances are, youre auto attacking with a staff, which will most likely reveal you from desperate decoy’s stealth.

You plan to shatter your clones alot and/or spread them out. Debilitating dissipation doesnt work on shatter (only when they get killed or replaced), so it wont do you much good. I’d recommend master of manipulation for your blink. Debilitating dissipation would kinda work vs melee or if you dont shatter much.

Mirror of anguish doesnt do a whole lot, youll probably get more out of chaotic dampening in terms of defense.

I wouldn’t rely on such a long rotation, as you’ll be using most of your cooldowns (if not all important ones). It’s easy to get lost while doing it, or unexpected things can happen, like your opponent dodging your mind wrack, or countering your stealth. Now, most people you meet while roaming won’t do anything excpect let you hit them, so you should be fine :P

Illusionay swap doesn’t stun, it just immobilises. Your target cant move, but still use skills.

Your build doesn’t have a whole lot of damage. You seem to sword auto attack alot in the rotation, which doesn’t do much damage compared to other professions, and puts you in danger of being hit too :o.
It’s ok though, high damage isn’t essential, and you can still kill people with this.

Youre probably better off swapping the few pieces of rampager gear with power gear.

Try to save your blink, decoy and veil for when you really need them. Theyre best used as defensive skills, and gives you something to fall back to incase your weapon skill rotation fails/or you get pressured.

It’s an interesting build, and most traits you picked make sense and fit it quite well.

If I didnt explain somehing properly or you want to say anything, feel free to whisper/PM :D

Some of us don’t assume power/condi hybrids ade worse than fulll power ir condi, because we actually tried it out. I did, but I’m not speaking for all of us.

“with hybrid you get the bet of both worlds”. Don’t make statements like this, just don’t.

You don’t, just think about it. For the best of power, you need power precision and critical damage. For condi, you need condition damage. You just cant get an armor piece that has 4 stats on it…

A condi/power hybrid will never do 100% condition- and power damage, ever.

Chaos Archangel.5071:

“Hey Chaos, your inbox is full”

“Oh OK. Lemme fix that” /deletes 2 messages

Maybe … Maybe that’s not the most bright idea.

Your inbox is full… Please empty.

edit: @Pyro: I like how you posted that message when I had just shut off my laptop and went upstairs xD.

Hope you all have fun anyway :’(

[Manipulation] mimic -> Echo
Cooldown 30
Cast time: instant
Duration: 4 seconds (you (don’t have to channel it. It’s a buff + effect for 4 seconds)
Breaks stun
Mimic: “For 4 seconds, gain protection every second, and gain retaliation and stability on activation. When stun breaking or being hit by a control effect, absorb and store it for later use”
Protection: 1 second
Retaliation: 4 seconds
Stability: 4 seconds
(boons behave like normal boons, and thus are strippable and affected by boon duration)

Cast time: instant
Unblockable
Increases cooldown by 50%
Echo: “Echo your stored control effect at your target.” (it instantly reaches your target like power lock and power spike)

Something like this. Originally, I wanted it to pulse aegis instead of protection, but it would cause problems with the control-absorbing thing :P.

It would be usefull in offensive as well as defensive builds, while staying true to it’s original purpose and without being overpowered, I think :o

You mean sword #3, and making it appear isntantly next to a person would make it overpowered :/. As of now, it’s hugely telegraphed with a devestating effect if it hits. Making it instant would be overpowered and needs another kind of nerf, like a massive cooldown or swap delay :P.

Mimic is my favourite worst skill. The mage removes a condition :D. Apart from that it’s pretty horrible.

Rally from kill: get up with 25% of your max hp

Revived (be it bandage/a revive skill or being healed): get up with 50% of your max hp.

BlackDevil.9268:

And what’s up with the crap about ’’testing’’ vs other builds? Why would you want to test your build against specific builds in sPvP, while you made this build for WvW?
It’s not like those are the only builds you’ll face. There are harder opponents such as thieves, engies and necro’s.

themenaceofseventhdimension.2075:

Mesmers give me a hard time whether or not the players are skilled. That is why I love to fight other Mesmers. They are a challenge everywhere I go.

Besides, spvp and wvw have very much in common. In both, you will face player opponents. In spvp it’s also much easier to meet up with someone easily. In wvw you have the server issue etc, and the chance of being ambushed.

really, arenanet should implement duelling in pve, would be much easier and fun :/.

edit: Also, I think engis, necros and thieves aren’t nescesarily harder than a Mesmer :P

[Manipulation] mimic → Echo
Cooldown 30
Cast time: instant
Duration: 4 seconds (you (don’t have to channel it. It’s a buff + effect for 4 seconds)
Breaks stun
Mimic: “For 4 seconds, gain protection every second, and gain retaliation and stability on activation. When stun breaking or being hit by a control effect, absorb and store it for later use”
Protection: 1 second
Retaliation: 4 seconds
Stability: 4 seconds
(boons behave like normal boons, and thus are strippable and affected by boon duration)

Cast time: instant
Unblockable
Increases cooldown by 50%
Echo: “Echo your stored control effect at your target.” (it instantly reaches your target like power lock and power spike)

Something like this. Originally, I wanted it to pulse aegis instead of protection, but it would cause problems with the control-absorbing thing :P.

It would be usefull in offensive as well as defensive builds, while staying true to it’s original purpose and without being overpowered, I think :o

As far as I heard, it’s a single torment on a 7 second cooldown that lasts like 5 seconds. So, no.

Out of all professions, we by far have the best:

• boon stripping
• boon manipulation/support

We also have:

• Lots of reflects. The dome shape makes it easy to place feedback where it hurts.
• Condition removal with null field and shattered conditions. They’re buffing shattered conditions to a 600 range in the next balance update, which is huge (like twice the radius of Chaos Storm)
• Low aoe damage, but enough to tag. I guess the berserker is ok :/
• And ofcourse timwarp and all those things.

For organized zerging I run this build, and it’s amazing! Sadly, I don’t get much organized groups, so I just end up trying to tag people with arrow carts :/. Pew pew!

If you’re having trouble specifically with Mesmers, my advice would be to start getting used to pressing buttons instead of clicking skills.

When you cna use your mouse to tunr the camera and target 100% of the time, it’s much easier to fight Mesmers, I think. I may be completely wrong here, because I have no experience with clicking skills :P

Darkfire.2950:

Chaos theory, as stated, is a big reason for it i think.

But not only that, mesmers are about messing with peoples heads and kitten ing them off. What would kitten you off more than a guy kicking your butt and then disappearing into a cloud of purple and pink butterflies? Pretty embarassing feeling lol

IMO, having my butt kicked by some random guy is embarassing. Seeing the person dissapear in a cloud of purple and pink butterflies isn’t ;D.

Butterflies are amazing creatures (just a bit scary when they sit on your nose), look at what I found

http://images2.layoutsparks.com/1/35374/blurple-butterfly-blue-cool.jpg

Look, just look :o

edit: wrong link :/

At level 40, make sure you get deceptive evasion, and it should be much better from there :P.

Just know that reading the guides kind of spoils the fun of experimenting yourself, but if you’re ok with that, go ahead :P. If experimenting is your thing, just try every weapon out. (single target phantasms do more damage than multi target).

The links Kai just linked are the best leveling/mesmer guides around, but if you ever feel the need to talk in game, feel free to whisper me

Just saying :o

I don’t think phalanx would look good on males if the same skin was exposed, but that’s just my oppinion.

I would also never ever wear my phalanx again if they removed the cleavage and leg-showing bits :/

It happens alot, and sometimes I have the feeling it confuses myself more than my target :P

kubetz.3058:

Alissah.9281:

Hey, butterflies can look manly on females aswell :P!

Them sexists, man.

I wrote “for female players” and not “for female characters” even tho that is sexist too, so I am sorry :(.

I am a man playing a female character, so that post is just showing my inability to phrase my thoughts in english well, but apart from that I am a great person obv! :D

Don’t worry, I believe you :D

We should hang out some time, how does sunday sound?

Ryan.8367:

Mesmer just became godlike in 1on1s

Sigh =[

We always were.

And why the long face :D?

kubetz.3058:

Pink butterflies are stylish and cute for female players and yet unbelievably manly for male players!

A study has shown that charr male warriors wielding greatswords and hammers are still jelly how manly do mesmers look with their pink butterflies. [citation needed]

Hey, butterflies can look manly on females aswell :P!

Them sexists, man.

CMstorm.8679:

how come a mesmer is represented by butterflies?

Its a reference to the butterfly effect/chaos theory.

omg I’m really excited for this :D

I just hope they don’t nerf our perma vigor, as Jon said they didn’t like people having it perma :/

21:00 GMT…

I think thats in 1 hour from now :O

And yea, I think that thread is quite ignored :/

Not my style of music, but I loved the video nonetheless :D

Take down the most dangerous or squishy target first.

Most dangerous to least:
Thief – with backstabs or pressure from sword dagger, they have a high damage output but low defense.
Mesmer – if they’re an experienced shatter mesmer, the fight may be over in a few seconds, if thy’re phantasm theyre going to be annoying, and condition has a dangerous torment block that will destroy you if you dont have condi removal. If you see a mesmer standing sill with a greatsword, easy target.
Warrior – decent burst with greatsword, but easy to dodge. Can be quite tanky and can still so high damage. Pin down on thr long bow does alot of bleeding damage (up to 16k) if you dont remove it.

Those 3 professions can spec for burst, defense and escapability/mobility in 1 build. I never realpy find others as dangerous as these.

Pve -open world: whatever I’m using at the time, probably phantasm.
Pve – dungeon: phantasm
Pvp -hotjoin: shatter, lockdown, condition.
Pvp – tourney: shatter, but I want to try others too :o.
Wvw – roaming: ahatter
Wvw – zerg: arrow cart shooter, PEW PEW! support, or just shatter if i happen to run by while roaming.

Oh I like this one :D

But it’s only for npcs :’(

Chaos Archangel.5071:

^ This…. Amazingly, this.

@keenlam: I’m wondering if maybe we shouldn’t require a tester for the contest as much as heavily encourage one. It ends up being a bit restrictive since schedules are all crazy with school and different timezones (US/EU) and such. The less hurdles for entry, the higher the interest.

Great idea, actually!

It would make the contest seem less ‘serious’ and more ‘friendly’.

Youre having a baby :o?

Congrats :D

Or if its something else, congrats and good luck too :P

Noss.4105:

Looks like a crappy heal. I’m not too worried.

30s cooldown
Base heal 3920(0.6) and 481(0.2) per condition removed.

Noss.4105:

Looks like a crappy heal. I’m not too worried.

30s cooldown
Base heal 3920(0.6) and 481(0.2) per condition removed.

Ive got to agree here.

I was super excited at the thought of unlocking new, universal skills, but when I saw the actual heal, it was kind of underwhelming :P

Jaskra.6940:

I love how their sexuality is being discussed…lmao. I auto-assumed they were lesbians. XD Then again since I have a lot of LGBTQ friends I suppose I would in comparison to the average player lol.

Huh… What does the Q mean in lgbtq? Qwerty O.o?

Meh, I like it. Minor characters don’t really ‘mention’ they are female, so it doesn’t bother me.

I didnt even notice we had no proper male heroes untill I read this thread O.o

But I love the phalanx for female :’(

We already have enough ‘realistic’ and full-covering heavy armor, anyway.

It kinds of makes that group of npcs seem like an actual group, instead of just mindless things that chase a player and swing a sword. (Only to get stacked up and aoe’ed down)

Its an improvement to the mindless and random AI, in my oppinion. If you down a single npc, you know the others are going to try to revive, so you can CC the revivet of just burst it down.

Maybe we’ll see some organized groups in dungeons, that can also interupt players trying to finish, it would add a whole lot of depth to ’just stack here and spam aoes’.

Sounds great, even though sunday is a horrible day for me to plan in-game stuff :P

Usually when im on, theres 3 or 4 people representing :o

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/List-Find-your-Mesmer-Builds-Guides

Everything here under the pvp and wvw section, it just depends on the player.

Builds without condi removal have to be on their toes, though. 1 illusionary counter=they have to disengage.