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Still think it’s to slow when used to get from point A to B…. You really fly slow, but it gotten better, on the other hand, if you usein as a melee burst (where you stand), it actually quite fast and hit most of the time! So that’s what I do
Also, don’t take the longer range trait yeah… no good

uhhhhh an Anet posted something!!!!! “Dance around the room with the hands up the air”
I think you did a good jop Karl, you guys appear nice down on the earth when you do this kind of stuff, and I like that

Ayestes.1273:

Grenades and Rifle even with long range capabilities work much better at short range. Grenades are much more accurate and land all three hits reliably, and Blunderbuss is a ton (technically infinitely) more effective at 100 range then 1200 range.

I’m comfortable with being called a mid-range class, and it makes a lot of sense to me. We can be mindbogglingly dangerous at close range, especially in terms of AoE.

I agree with this! All in all, it sounds intrestring, but I’m waiting for the patch notes before I can be kitten to do any serious commentary on it!

@Bas I Apologize for taking part of turning the topic into a wrong direction, should have done it over PM instead! Still, I’m glad to see you want players from all sides of the games in the podcast, and I agree with your philosophy about bring in players from alle aspects of thegame

@Naphack I would have voted Mischwoof aswell, but I’m afraid he ain’t really active anymore, which is a shame, he brought a lot of awesomness to the Engineer forums

m8, I don’t talk about that the sPvP dismiss us! I talk about the fact that you ignore the meta game that exist in WvW that is 1vs1 duels, which I even make videos of! You ignore the fight clubs, you ignore the small scale fights you only talk about the zergs fights in WvW!

I have never said anything about WvW and sPvP as game modes is the same!
All I have tried to say is, in this entire thread, is that WvW players that do 1vs1 all the time exist. Those have build and trained to be the best of the best in a 1vs1, creating builds that can work vs any class and trait build there is! Like Osicat from the Mesmer forums (which I just heard probaly gonna be in that Podcast aswell) that have 110000+ views in his build thread and how to play the mesmer and counter other classes! And his a WvW player!!

That’s the ignorance and arrogance I talk about! All Bas asked for was “We are looking for an Engineer who would be the right guy to appear on the Podcast to talk about how Necros are viewed from an Engineer’s point of view.”!
Claiming any WvW player should be able to do, I wouldn’t do that ever, because there is a lot that only play the Zerg feast! But discredting all the duelists in WvW is just being ignorant from your side, because we can just aswell explain the problems there is with differnt classes!

I can’t be kitten argumenting this point anymore, because we clearly don’t see things the same way!

P.s How do you work with that Healing Turrent? I mean, when I get bursted from a Necro Signet and get all the conditions on me I want them removed at once, but either my healing Turrent is on CD, or it’s on the ground, but then I can wait X amount of seconds depending on when the last pulse was send out? Don’t that get you killed all the time? Been trying to use the turrent but it’s just seems problematic I won’t deliver the cleanse at command?

Zinwrath.2049:

@Amadeus.

Ya, a WvW exclusive player isnt gonna be able to suggest things for spvp. For one, your item/rune/sigil options are different in spvp. Also, beating a theif 1on1 in wvw doesnt mean you could do it in spvp….there are too many variables that could be different including Level, Larger variety of items, Racial Utilitys and Elite skills, Levels. And the fact few people build themselves around 1on1 encounters…most likely build around being good in zerg warfare.

So a wvw exclusive player’s suggestions would be dismissed by the spvp community. With that said, spvp (while is the competitive side of the pvp spectrum) is very weak in numbers and not nearly as successful as wvw.

This pretty much counts as being arrogant and ignorant about WvW I’d say

@Zinwrath you forgot the free condition removed when Super Elixir is thrown!
Also with Kit refineent swap to Flamethrower will cleanse one

But elixir C (not U ;b) got 40 second CD, and if you don’t run a elixir build it’s hard to justify taking it, since it’s a waste to pick traits for just one utility (tho, it’s still a decent condition remover if they burst all their condition in one row, but the good ones apply it over time)

Can you actually get Healing Turrent Overcharge to work reliable? cause I sure can’t, the fact that you can wait up to 8 second on the cleanse (If it just sprayed) makes it a really bad condition remover :/

Medkit antidote is fine if the enemy only have one kind of condition (Like remove a cripple or bleed stack), but vs a Necromancer that have several I don’t feel it’s helping me out!

Fumigate is awesome

Point is, we won’t whipe conditions with this, unless we trait into Alchemy trait or use up a lot of our utility slots on it, which will hurt our damage a lot (again a design flaw of the class), these are just good tools vs low conditon builds (like the annoying burning guardiens allways give you ect).

@Zinwrath I am annoyed because of the amount of arrogance you (and most sPvP players) allways send at us WvW players when we start talking about how to beat differnt classes 1vs1 :) It’s annoying you discredit us as soon as we start talking, claiming we know less, while in reality you guys just show how little you actually know about the WvW PvP.

Don’t take me as a fool with the HGH thing, I know HGH builds just fine, the reason I said that your build sounds like a Bunker build, is one of the core problems with Engineers, you can’t really use a HGH build, while still haveing tons of Knockbacks, because your left with your Rifle and maybe one kit, more then that will weaken the HGH part a lot :)

Also, again I don’t talk about going glass cannon, I allmost never make glass cannons, you assume so much in your post it’s just annoying! The only point I want to make in this thread, is that a PvP player, may he be a WvW or SPvPer, can explain the basic of how you win a 1vs1 vs any class, because no matter the stats, the core skills and functions of the differnt classes is the same no matter where you play! Can’t be that hard can it?

@Bomber the fun thing about increased offensive stats is I can get increased defensive stats, funny how that works huh?

@Missle thanks, the point I try to make

@Ostricheggs.3742 and @Zinwrath.2049
Really, you guy’s gotta step down from that high horse your riding on! As I said, don’t bring in the sPvP tatics meta game, that’s a complete different thing then:
How would you beat X class as Engineer! Just the thing that you Ostricheggs still is one of those people that find Theif so kitten OP in WvW ain’t helping your case.
Also @Zinwrath you have clearly never done anything else but running with a zerg in WvW, and that’s fine, but i have done plenty of 5vs5 battle’s and even 1vs, 2vs2 ect. and that meta game can be found in WvW aswell, so drop the “More personal” thing

Yes, the stats are differnt in WvW, I know that, and it’s more fun because you can custom your stats more that way!! The thing is, it’s a number, nothing more, nothing less! The same skills, and most of the same triat builds for that matter, as you use in sPvP are found in the small skirmish battle’s in WvW!
So when they ask “We need an Engineer that can explain which tools, strength/Weakness an Engineer got vs X class”, then any good 1vs1 player, either WvW or tPvP can do it!

If they wanted an Engineer player that could explain the current tPvP Meta game, which tPvP group setups the Engineer fits into ect ect. then sure, then you need a tPvP player, but just because the stats are different in WvW, ain’t the skill diffenent, still the kitten same thing!

Also, Zinwrath the only time Engineers got any decent condition removal is when we run a Alchemy trait line build, where we either need to spend 20 points and 2-3 utility slots for formular 409, or go 30 points into it to get immune at 25% (which will get us killed as soon as someone witha bit of power damage get in) The build you talk about sounds like a tPvP bunker build, which is fun to play, but you won’t be able to “beat them around with high damage”

Condition damage is actually quite the problem for Engineer’s because of this design flaw, and a good necromancer is a pain in the * unless you run a build deep into the Alchemy or elixirs!

Also @lol at Rasical ability’s, no one use them in small scale WvW anyway, and they only see play in for fun builds!

@Dojo, I simply love the utility of the Toolkit and the power of prybar to much for not taking it, but it really ain’t a “must” have! You can do condition damage builds without it, you can make HGH builds that use the grenade kit or bomb kit as support kit (and else take Elixir H,B and S/R), or you can even make a Bomb kit + Grenade kit build, that still will have plenty of damage! It’s just that Prybar after that buff (and I used toolkit before that haha) is so amazing strong!

I would problay never make a pure P/V/T build, but I have been thinking on a P/V/T Armor with Berserker Jewels, or Knight Armor with Valk jewels, build, but I’m not yet sure how it should be done! But you would for sure be able to make a Rifle-grenade setup like that, you could even throw in some HGH! Also, still dreaming about a Rifle /FT combo, but still think the FT needs some work, but I will soon have time to test some Rifle action again! But atm. I think our condition damage stand strongest!

@Ink glad you liked it! I will start working on the next movie as soon as I got the time!!

@MeanMug, the Pistol/Pistol skills all gain a lot from Power aswell actually, Blowtorch can be quite the nuke (seen his do 3-4k crits), and poison volley and stastic shot can dish out a good amount of power damage aswell! That’s why this kind of build gain the most out of might stacks, because it benift from both the condition damage and power damage! This means you will have an opening “power” damage when you prybar or blowtorch, followed up by the condition damage, and in that way will put pressure on the enemy from two ways!

Also about 40% Critical chance is more then fine in this kind og builds, mostly cause in combat they will have fury up 100% of the time and that’s a 60% crit chance!

Boon duration runes are taken over condition duration in this kind of build because all your defense come from your boons, and a lot of bonus damage aswell, so you want it up as much as you can (Swiftness, Protection, Regen ect. He will often in combat have 1 min of regen going ect.) but also the Fury and might you wanna give the most uptime you can! So it’s simply because you throw out so many boons that you want a longer duration on it

The bomb kit skill 3 gives 5 confusion stacks in an AoE for 5 seconds, so that’s the same as the Prybar! You can make a build with that instead of toolit, but you would have to move 10 point from inventions or firearms into Explosives for the larger explosive radius! Hope that answears your questions

@Eastcorn that’s one of the reasons yeah, that’s it’s good to have some toughness and viatality, because condition damage is a matter about outlasting people!
Another reason, and the problem with Rampager is the “big” stat on it, is precision, and when doing a condition damage build, you want the big stat to be condition damage most of the time, and that’s the main reason I mix Rabid and Carrion armor for getting the stats I want when doing condition damage builds!

@Crackleflint I agree completly with you that our other utility’s beside the kits and elixirs lack a lot! I’m going to cover that in my next commentary movie actually, because it’s quite the problem! I think that Kit’s work great atm, and it’s a very usefull sort of utility, and the elixirs works aswell, but that’s because the trait tree that support them is so strong, and boons in general is quite powerfull atm!

Just for short notice, the big problems we face atm without a kit is we only have 1 weapon when not using a kit in our utility, and that Pistol Auto attack sucks, so we have quite the damage down time when using that. But also that (allmost all our) Gadgets and Turrents is lackluster for any sort of serious PvP. They simply got to many design flaws when put together with the rest of the Engineer.

So when I say that the Engineer can be really good, and that we can both have damage and control, I still agree on that the class have some serious design flaws with the Turrents and Gadgets! And the point you try raise in this topic is very valid: Our Turrents and gadgets, even when our elixirs and gadgets is in a sweet spot now, still need a lot of work!

Thanks for the kind words hehe

The more I watch her movies, there more she show how wrong and gluless she is about WvW! I mean sure, those banners are neat when you use them at a Siege which is what she show in most her videos (While being an arrogant brick, but still), It works well because she can scatter them over a large radius to help out several groups. But the banners got the design problem that some kitten wil pick it up and run away with them.

But that’s only one little part of WvW, in any open field clash she would be useless after the frist regroup where she plant her banners, and then the team moves away from them? She should try show how good a healer she is in a 3 way fight inside SM ect. where the group constant is moving to a nice place for regrouping! She won’t bring any healing at all to the table compared to the Engineer, Elementalist or Guardien!

Sure if you just want to stand there as she do at a tower and heal people, without having to press more thne 4 buttons every min or so, then it’s probaly the best healing build? Beside that? no…

I think Crackleflint, where you went wrong is you did focus ONLY on control, I mean, I got a 1vs1 duel build, that control and dominate any Melee enemy and most ranged aswell! (you can check it out in my movies if you want), but I use Bomb Kit, Toolkit and the Net Turrent + Dual pistols, which give me all the control I need, plenty of cripple and Immobilse, in combo with our perma vigor and swiftness we got all the controll we need + I still deal a truck load of Damage! You did the same mistake as most people do with a burst build —> They focus everything on the burst and to deliver it, whichs leave them without controll, you just did it the other way around!

Also, your build show’s one of the design problems with the Engineer, you run without a kit, which will lower your damage output a lot, mostly becuase gadgets (you use two of them) is in a bad situation compared to our ktis! This ain’t to be rude against you, it’s simply to point out that our control don’t have to come at the price off lower damage as you claim

Wow, okay, I watched some of her movie and read her topic, and I hate her guys allready! Such a horrible attitude she got, and hate the entire “yeah I’m totally a gamer girl so I’m a special snowflake” she got going!

With that out of my system, it is a nice healing build, but to me It dosn’t look any special? I mean, when I run my support build when doing guild runs (I use a Shaman armor and cleric Jewels, so not full out on healing), that’s what my bombs heal for aswell, and I sitll got perma regen + Super elixir and the Healing Turrent Water combo field heal going! I also have better condition removal for my friends then that Banner build, and to do what she do she have to use up all her Utility slots just for doing that! Also, she can only bring one of them with her when she moves on, leaving behind the rest of the healing she could deliver, for not talking about giving up her weapons for a useless banner? Sure a nice build, but the best ingame? I don’t thinkso… Maybe when all she gotta do is stand still and heal people at a siege (Which is what she do), but beside that, no…

Ahh a 4 kit buid, I’m working on a 4-kit Condition build aswell atm, it’s quite fun to use 1vs1 where you are 100% on to your game! It’s tough to use without a stunbreak, but the blocks help you out a lot when you time it right kitten hard to use when roaming solo tho)!

A few things.
I would’t speed up the movie as you have, the normal speed of the game is more then fine, and the extra speed just makes everything confusing to watch in my opinion!
Also, you should probaly work on not using your mouse to swap kits, it delay your moves a lot!
I personal use Swiftness on swap with (+vigor on swiftness), cuase I swap so much, and it’s the cheapest way to get a storng boost in your defense!
Nice use of Superior Sigil of Hydromancy if I’m not wrong? play testing that one myself in the build I’m working with!
I feel bad for the dudes you duel, cause they have no idea about the confusion burst the Engineer deliver, allways fun to watch people commit suicide

@ Pannoica! Thanks a lot for your honest feedback! I will try lower the background music some more, and I have gotten my hands on a real Mic. for commentary work, so in the next movie I’m gonna use that! I will try test out where to place it and how it should turn to only get my voice (Designed to only take in sound from one direction by lowering all sound inputs from another side)

So I hope I will figure it out! I made some of the parts earlier on the day (Pistols ect.) and some after I had made dinner (the beginning and Rifle ect), and I can hear the sound difference aswell, so I have probaly moved the mic to a “worse” position hehe! But I will work on it! glad for the feedback and tips!

Also, Osicat just uploaded two of the really good duels that he recorded (I didn’t record them cause I was out of space) and the second fight is hillarious at the end:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKZLCBwSC-8

Yeah Leo G, it is! I uploaded it the 30/01-2013 No need for that to beat a level 80 ha!

Okay everyone! I made the first movie with commentary yesterday! Sat down with plenty of water and made brainstorm about what I should talk about! I ended up with deciding to start out at the very basic: Weapons and Weapon kits!
First off, I want to make sure even new players can follow and understand the work I’m going to create, so I need to cover the basics, so they can go watch stuff like this to see how everything works

Secondly, I have never done anything like this before, so I wanted to start it all out with something really simple, that I could have an easy time to sit down and talk about it! So for me it’s also a matter of learning the basics of creating this kind of movies! While it is so simple and the most basic, most of the veterans Engineer palyers should be able to help me out on what I do wrong, before I step up to some harder stuff!

I hope you guys will give me feedback on it, and tell me about what you would like to see and have me talk about! I know my english ain’t the best, but this is give me some good trainning in it haha!

Anyway, here we go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAn9aaRCvU0&feature=youtu.be

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I know for sure if i was back there with lvl 26 warrior i would be torn in pieces on spot. [/quote]

That’s really not true! I did take on level 80 enemies on my level 15 warrior, and it ended just fine for me most of the time as you can see here

You can buy Rabid armor at the temple’s of Orr Sporadicus! It’s one og the easiset armor setus to get ^^

I know that akward “Auto attacking time” you talk about, I have it with all our weapons but the Flamethrower! One of the main reasons I allmost allways have two kits! It’s a nice feeling to allways have something usefull to press! The bombs is also quite strong is sPvP when fighting at points, so I’m sure it will be usefull, most bunker guardiens melt under condition damage!

You are more then welcome to PM me your build and I will galdly take a look at it! This goes for everyone that got questions or a build they would like me to look at!

That’s indeed true, they get powered up by stupid NPC’s and other players that don’t know what’s going on! That’s why players Wild Bill is able to makes those 1vs4 movies and actully win, because 2-3 of the players run arond like a headless chicken hehe
Often I actually try to avoid using supply cart vs them, unless if it’s going for the killing blow, cause the Turrents will more often help him, then deal him damage!

@Zinwrath I really gotta disagree, there Is a large amount of solo roaming players that run 1vs1 builds in WvW, whom have one clash after another with each other and I often duel these people (using their 1vs1 builds)! Yes, there is like 2 or 3 Sigils/runes that can be used in WvW that you can’t use in sPvP, that ain’t gonna make a difference!

Several palyers I have fought in WvW, I have gone to sPvP to do a few 1vs1 as well, and a Theif is still a Theif, if you know the basics how to counter one in WvW, you know the basics of beating one in sPvP aswell!

I do agree that different builds and tactis exits in these two area’s, but the core concept of “how to beat X class” or “How to make a build that can do X thing”, is the same!
The only reason most WvW exclusive players suggetions get’s dismissed by the spvp community is in my opinion, and one of the reason I do so little sPvP, is most of them is to arrogant about sPvP and tPvP is “The only true PvP”! Which I simply don’t agree with, sure, If I only did do WvW zerg, then I probaly wouldn’t know how to do a 1vs1, but that’s simply not the case for most really active WvWers! ^^

Your more then welcome! Yes I got a video of how to handle them:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGWimaL9s-I
It begin at the 12 min mark! It’s actually one of the Theif builds I had a lot of trouble with when I first did encounter it, but after playing vs it (and with a lot of info from Markus Valadir), I learnt how to counter them quite easy now!

The thing is, they work on a rotation, that allways do the same, so it’s quite easy to figure out what they are gonna do, and they got several major weakness.
1. They only do Bleeding and a bit of Poision, so even out medkit can keep their condition damage down
2. They need to use Cloak and Dagger to gain Stealth, and it cost a lot of initative
3. They only have condition removal when they stealth
4. For the build to work, they need to wait the 4-5 seconds their stealth last fully out to regain initativ and regen life, which means you can count down to when the burst come

The rotation they do is, open up with skill 1. Pistol Burst, out of stealth, then they auto attack you, and try to get close to use CoD (Cloak and Dagger), rinse and repeart, and throw in apply some posion every now and then.

The thing is, that’s actually quite easy to counter, just, Block, Blind, or dodge the CoD two times in a row, and his helpless! They will often start moving close to you after the pistol burst, then make a dodge to avoid your attacks, and then attack you with CoD! So I just keep moving, and play 100% defensive in that time frame, and when he fails his CoD I stop chewing bubblegum and start kicking kitten on him! It’s still a super solid 1vs1 Build, but really simple! hope that helps!

Hearthseeker spamming Thief’s is simply the most amazing fun thing in the came to hit with the Prybar! Instant killing themself like that Is pure gold! But glade I made your day hehe!

@Fiddler that’s is where superior sigil of Generoisty come into play! 60% chance on critical hits to transfer a condition from me to my target, which pretty much handle my condition damage problems unless I face a burst condition build (Only Engineers and Necromancers that can do this, and both are rare) Rest of my defence come from my Block and kiting supported by all the cripple, perma vigor and swiftness!

@Ink, yes it can work in sPvP, I have play tested it a bit! As you say, confusion is weaker (it’s still dealing a heavy damage tho), but bomb kit when attacking/Defending points go from “hard to hit with” to “looool this is so easy”, because people have to stand on that point, if they move away I still win! Combo it with big old bomb and stuff start’s to get fun! If I had to run a build in sPvP it would probalty be this one! and I think your right with the rapid thing! my bad

@Sol, it’s not that it can’t work vs a good 1vs1 duel, that would be silly of me to say, since I use it for duels aswell in 1vs1, what I mean is, if I had to pick, Toolkit > Bomb kit in a 1vs1 build! It’s still an awesome kit, that’s very usefull (and get’s even better when vs 2+ enemies)
But try use bombs vs a Trap Ranger, a Shattercat Mesmer or a ranged Necromacer or Engineer ect. it’s super tough to pull off ! you can, but it’s hard

To be noted, it’s late and I’m tired, so the tex might be a mess, will look at it 2morrow again xD

Here we go all you crazy gear heads on the Engineer forum! A wonderfull new roaming video, showing just how powerfull that Confusion actually is in WvW! Yep! you heard right! It’s time for a run down of my duel build! Thanks to all the Gandara and Auguary Rock People that lended me theirs heads to prybar on!

The movie!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoReMSCI0js&feature=youtu.be

Build name: The Confusion Bomb (Also named Demented Engineer, cause Kardiamond. was so much faster then me with throwing a roaming video out! kitten!! )

Gear list for 100% condition duration:
http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/engineer/?2.0|a.1m.h2.a.1m.h19|0.0.0.0.0.0|1b.7i.1b.7i.1h.7v.1b.7v.1b.7v.1b.7v|2w.0.2w.0.3w.0.2w.0.1h.62.1b.62|k53.k64.0.a1.k68|30.d|2d.2e.2x.2j.0|e

Gearlist for full out condition damage:
http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/engineer/?2.0|a.1b.h2.a.1h.h19|0.0.0.0.0.0|1b.719.1b.719.1b.719.1b.719.1b.719.1b.719|2w.0.2w.0.3w.0.2w.0.1h.62.1b.62|k

Concept idea:
Confusion is broken in WvW, and it’s fun to see people kill themself, let’s abuse that! yay!
So Prybar got a brutal buff (yeah guys, it will be nerfed, we all know this), so I thought I would create a up and close build, stacking up to 14 stacks of confusion in a condition build (Yeah, that’s like 4.5k on every skill use). Combo that Confustion with burning, because overkill is fun!

Pistol/Pistol – It’s a condition damage build, and I wanted as much confusion and burn as I could get!
Medkit – Standard healing loadout for when I run 15+ in tools
Toolkit – Dat Prybar! Enough said!
Bombkit – more burning and confusion! I’m up close and personal anyway
Elixir S or Net Turrent (Take sitting duck instead of longer range on pistols for fun times) – Most of the time I run Elixir S, just because it’s easier and more safe when roamin (Stunbreaker and inv. for 3 seconds), but on the other hand, Net Turrent is freaking amazing in most 1vs1 fights!

Strength:
Burning, Blind, and confusion (all there got each two diffenent skills that apply them), while still having a pull, block, and plenty of cripple! Which makes us able, if timed well, to constant keep an condition pressure on the enemy! Meanwhile you will deliver some decent Thrown Wrench, Prybar and blowtorch (and bombs) power damage, 1500-2500 crits from these skills helps putting up the pressure!
Tip! – Never waste and stack all your conditions on the same time, better to spread them out, so you can apply 5 new stacks of confusion when the first 5 run out or get cleansed!

Weakness
Here I would say condition removal, but that’s simply not true! A top tier D/D elementalist player (see Intigo) will be able to outcleanse your conditions, anything else don’t stand a chance at the condition pressure this builds deliver!

The two biggest problems I have with it is 1. Good ranged kiters can take longer to kill because bomb kit is hard to use vs them (Unless you use Net Turrent) and it’s tough to pull off in large teamfights and siege defences (even then, when you jump down from a wall and run up to 5 man from behind and give them 5 stacks of confusion while they spam every skill they can and die it’s a blast)

My opinion
But this is probaly my best 1vs1 build yet created, and any class I came a cross could be taken down by it in a 1vs1 when just roaming. It’s just silly how easy it will beat a Warrior, Theif, Guardien and any other proffesion running a melee build!
The Confusion burst you can deliver (I got so much footage of that, but only taken a few clips in the movie) is just silly beyond helping, people die in 2-4 seconds if you get the drop on them and they don’t realise what just hit them!

@Lebannen, from what I understand, Bas just want an Engineer player, that can talk and comment about our classes skills, traits ect. and comment on enemy classes weakness and strengths vs us as a class. If that is indeed the case, then I hardly see any reason to why the Engineer had to be a a Top tPvP player, cause any hardcore WvWer will know the skill sets and troubles an enemy class bring to the taple. If I beat a Theif 1vs1 in WvW, I sure will be it 1vs1 in sPvP, it’s still the same concept!

If, on the other hand, they want a Engineer that can comment on the tPvP meta game, and how you use the Engineer in a tPvP team ect. then yes, then we need a tPvP player! But if they just want a good talk about our skills and tools (and how to use them), then any PvP player will do the trick!

I meant Stastic Shot, typo from my side (the Pistol skill 3, it’s a beast), but you can acutally build stastic discharge into the build! Well we don’t have escape skills like a Mesmer or an Elementalist, but we can kite kitten well with perma Swiftness, Vigor, Cripple’s we can throw behind us, Glue bombs and glue shots ect. so it’s a matter about timing your blocks and dodges the few times he get close and else just run a head and kiting it!

Seras you can do that with the builds I gave you to Just use Pistol/Pistol instead (Grenade kit is a condtion damage/Power build)

Well the movies I make often showcase a lot of fights vs Theifs (So you can see it in action there), but when I run a condition damage build If I get the opner on them it’s my win: Magnet —> Prybar, let them dodge, Blowtorch --> Stastic Discharge —> Posion volley (From here you just keep pressure on them all the time when they get out of stealth)

If they jump you, you should still be able to outlive the first burst (so use a stunbreaker), and depending on how low you are, bomb them with supply drop, most Theif’s suck big time when your on low HP and just go “loool hearthseekeer, hearthseekeer, hearthseekeer!” So get Prybar on them, Stastic Shot and use smoke bomb/grenades after and just laugh at them killing themself while not hitting anything (keep moving tho), and try heal up with med kit!

But some general rules when vs a Theif is,
1. Keep moving, and try turn around all the time while they stealth, that makes it harder for them to land there Backstap
2. Throw down stuff behind you with Grenade/Bomb kit when they stealth
3. as soon as something happens to your HP pool try dodge (Can be hard to pull off)
4. Keep kiting
5. Lay Pressure as soon as they get out of stealth (They have no condition removal when out of stealth)

I have replaced my earings with Carrion stat line, and a Rapid Acsended Neck, which I use now, also I use Carrion guns until Giver’s is fixed (Just a heads up)

I hope this makes sense to you, but it’s the way I normal handle them!
as you can read in this topic:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/engineer/PvP-movie-guides-would-you-watch-it/first#post1614107
I’m talking about doing some commentary videos on how to fight classes ect. so I wil lget more in detail on how to beat a Theif if I get this rolling (only gonna do it if people show intrest for it)!

That’s a great suggestion Kimbald, I will do it that way! I have never done anything like that before, so input from all of you, and ideas about what you would like, is more then welcome! The Engineers players the one to watch it anyway! So I have to create stuff you guys actually wanna watch hehe

@Kimbald I just looked him up, would be something like that I would do yeah! Not that good at video editing as he is, but it would be like that yeah! I would try duel in WvW vs the duelist players I know, and If I can’t get some good palyers from proffisons guild m8’s will help me set it up in sPvP so showcase duels, combo’s to watch out and movement stuff!
It would mostly be my way and take on playing the Engineer using some of the builds I use myself, maybe even take a run down on traits and skills to give my openion og stuff

Gonna make a topic about that Lupanic here:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/engineer/PvP-movie-guides-would-you-watch-it

Then people can join in on the discussion there, so we won’t ninja this thread with something else then what It orginal was intended as! you can come over there and comment if movie gudies is something you would want to see!

Okay, I been thinking a lot on this, and more and more people start ask me for guides ect. is this something that would interest people on these forums? It’ a lot of work to make it if no one wanna see it? I’m thinking on commentary to the videos explaining builds and which counter moves we can do vs classes? So all in all, it would be How to PvP by me? I know I’m not the most skilled player, but I still got a general idea of most stuff going on in pvp (WvW and sPvP, dosn’t matter much, the theory is still the same)!

The question is, would people on this forums like this?

Yeah I see where you are comingfrom with Undead Runes, but personal I just think when you use Elixir B and Elixir H in your build, you can actually get insane long amount of Fury, Protection (with a bit of luck), Swiftness, Might and Retalition, and a ton of Might,which P/P and retalition also benift a lot from! Personal I like the 4 Alturism Runes and then 2Water/Monk way of doing it, simply because of the amount of boons you get! When I dueled Maskaganda he had all these boons up and running most of the time, and his retalition gave 350 damage each hit! was brutal!

I felt the same when I started! So I went with Rifle most of the time, with a Grenade kit, and Elixir H, Elixir B and another Exlir depending on my mood! I went in the explosive tree, Alchemy Tree and a bit in Firearms, and that was a simple and easy, but yet strong setup, to level with!
First I would build for 10/10/0/10/0. Next Book I would go 20/10/0/20/0, and then finish up with 30/10/0/30/0 (Get grenadier trait as soon as you can!!!) Another neat trik, I learnt afterwards, is to take 10 in tools for Swiftness when you swap to a kit, which helps you move around! hope this can be to help for you!

@Ayetes I think on Boon duration runes, they simply benift so much from those runes it’s allmost a waste to not take them! but true, it’s not a “must”! But indeed condition greandes with Tool kit confusion is brutal like one * in the *

@Ink first of, it can beat a good player!
Jokeing aside, 100nade is a power burst build, that loose the fight when you miss the burst (at least if the player is any good, and when I discuss and make builds It’s to be used vs a good player) Not that 100nade is a bad build, it’s just to much of a one trick pony, that even send you right ontop of the enemy player!

The build I made, is a condition damage (with a mix of power) damage build, that can have a good amount of damage output, but still have room for defensive stats, so you can actually last longer in fights and won’t get one shotted. It’s easy to land burning, freeze and long amount of bleeding, which means you can kite the enemy around a lot (one of out strongest tools). Also, with the buffed Prybar, a condition damage build get’s brutal with the 5 (7 stacks of confusion with stastic shot) you can use to lock down enemy players)

It’s hard to say why it’s better, because it ain’t “better”, it depends on what you do, if you just want as much upfront power damage you can, 100nade deliver that, but you won’t last long in a fight vs a good player! If you want a more flexible build (Both statswise and skill wise), with better surviability and kiting (and another sort of gameplay), then you can go with the condition grenades!
I gues it’s a matter about how you like to play in the end?
@Kardiamond ty m8, you should just check my channel out, I keep posting new movies all the time xD

Yeah, but for some reason Anet think WvW = PvE, so it works in WvW! The reason they say that on the Wiki is you can’t buy that sigil in sPvP, and hence only get it outside sPvP (one of the many reasons why I don’t really do sPvP, I feel to limited in in my choices there)

Huh. the build is indeed bugged in that link, so here is a new one!
http://www.gw2db.com/skills/calc/engineer#10|10|1207|253|4603|4052|4065|30|1876|1422|1885|10|1866|0|0|0|0|0|0|10|1015|0|0|20|1446|2270|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|

You can swap out Sharpnel or Ince. Powder out for short fuse if you want.
The builds works very well in siege/larger fights by just spamming Grenades, and is quite good in roaming around cause of the Prybar (OP), and swapping into grenades for a few bleeding, poison and freezing nades. (with the 90% duration I had doing that movie the bleeding from skill 2 lasted for 22 or 24 seconds? something like that, okittensecond CD)

I use 2x Runes of Lyssa, and 4x Runes of the Madking, or Lich, or Nightmare (all 3 can work), problem is these runes are bugged since last patch, but Anet is aware and fixing it soon (hopefully)
I run full Rapid Armor, Carrion Weapons (gonna use Giver’s when those are fixed and working for 20% longer condition duration), and a mix of Rampager (2 rings) Carrion (2 trinkets) and a rapid Acsended (neck)

The Sigil I use is Superior sigil of Generosity (60% chance on crit to remove a condition on yourself and give it to the enemy – for roaming reasons) and a supeiror sigil of corrution, but you can roll with the sigil that gives bleeding on crits if you want!

I run a build a lot like this in WvW, when doing guild runs our roaming with a group (and dungeons), and it’s works like a charm! But first of, I would drop Reinforced Shield personal, cause with 4 kit’s, you won’t be in in your weapon setup for long! I would repalce with either Elite Supplies, the extra Medkits help a lot in a critical situation, or simply take protective shield, which will help a lot when one of the burst build hit you!

Also, I moved 10 from tools to Alchemy to grap backpack regenrator, which in my WvW setup if I remember right heal for about 300-ish something. But the core concept is good, and the condition (confusion in praticular) is very healthy and you will be able to last for long vs enemies fore sure in a build like Creld’s!

Bahaha oh yeah! I was hopeing for a video where you would show mass Supply Drop! Great laugh haha

Well Ink, a HGH build will eat up the rune set, so you can’t have 20% longer condition duration from there as a start, but also, it will eat up all your utility slots for the Elxirs (Also lock you into 30 point in Alchemy)! Not that it’s bad, because it will indeed in a longer fight end up giving more damage, but my build simply have other tools’, so if your just gonna stand on a wall throwing down grenades, then yeah, go with a grenade HGH build (which I got a setup running aswell)

But if your gonna roam around as a condition engineer and take on smaller group fights ect, the build I linked got better tools for that (Perma Vigor, Perma Swiftness, a Pull, more cripple, PRYBAR, an extra heal at 25%HP ect) WvW ain’t allways a matter of giving the most damage, also Prybar is OP, so in any condition build you should try get it in there!

I got a conditon grenade build with a movie you can watch, you can follow the link to my Thread in the movie if you want info about the gear/runes ect.
Anyway, here we go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGWimaL9s-I
Build name: The Condition Grenadier
The trait build is this one:
http://www.gw2db.com/skills/calc/engineer#10|10|1207|253|4603|4052|4065|30|1422|1876|1885|10|1866|0|0|0|0|0|0|10|10

I don’t agree with Goloith that bomb kit is best used with power, I use it for my conditio damage builds, and the burning/confusion is brutal, but they also work great in a power build (Carrion Armor is quite godo with i actually, or a mix of rapid and carrion)!

When that is said, I think it’s a fun take on the HGH, but in my personal opinion and in my experince Toolkit is better in any 1vs1 vs a good players, and in certain vs a good ranged player! mostly cause it’s just such a pain to land the bombs vs a good palyer that knows what he is doing! But on the other hand, how often is it we run into that haha?
Also, all the Boons (Protection as the most important) should help a lot in larger scale fights, making you able to actually run into larger groups and place the bombs! So all In all I think it’s a nice take on the HGH builds, and it should work quite well in roaming around a lone or in small groups, but I would never use it in duels vs good players ^^

Awesome video Maskaganda!! I loved the parts with The Teokno Vinking, he for sure could soak a heavy beating like a bause! Lòoked like they for some reason often focused him? Gues it’s cause his a big kitten norn? Anyway! solid gameplay as allways, and the Prybar for sure give your damage an extra beating!

Tbh, I’m still waiting on a nerf on that thing, I don’t think it can go on as this, it’s simply a to strong tool in WvW for Engineers, so either they nerf Prybar, or nerf Confusion in general in WvW (which probaly is the best! But let’s enjoy it while it lat hehe!