Guild Wars 2

@zenguy how about you prove us wrong? Instead of us allways having to prove that we are fine? Also, who the hell would bother watching me do 1-2 hours of running around roaming in WvW, there can be a lot of downtime doing that time? I mean, I know as a fact the Engineer is just fine in WvW, and all builds I have made videos of (and many more actually) work great in WvW still, and I change it around a lot! So your move sunny boy, prove to me we suck

Edit: also all my duel videos is vs people at same or above my skill level, and I only clip it together, all the fights are unedited! whooopsy huh?
also, I don’t think any of us claim the Engineer is OP, we claim it’s a fine and good class in many ways!

sunnypsyop.3025:

Am I saying I would never use them? No, I absolutely would. In fact, my current build has a rifle turret taking up a utility slot… Because I want that Surprise Shot for my SD build. ;P Oh, you meant am I actually putting the turret itself down on the ground? Hahahaha! NO. Of course I’m not… that would be silly!

I won’ bother responding to much in this thread, mostly because most of the stuff you post is wrong, and tells a story about many of you not having any idea about what your actually doing! I would you like to point out one thing I see more and more of you think: this!

First of, just my putting down the Turret, and pressing the detonate will increase you damage output in a SD build! Why? Because that will trigger another SD! Oh my! All ready your wrong!
Okay, let’s assume we run a standard SD build then (which means mos have 20 points in tools and suprice shot got 7 seconds of cooldown), that’s still 7 seconds, where you can put down your Turret and Overcharge it, and in a 1vs1, that means my Turret is gonna put out about 3-4k free bonus damage on the target, followed by a detonate that as above said trigger a SD

I’m not sure if your being serious or not, but a comment like that ain’t helpful or constructive in any way, just stupid! And so what if your in a 1vs2, and the Turret DPS another target? that can keep pressure on other people as well, I would prefer I could control where it was shottting sure! But it ain’t “broken” either atm (might be in PvE, but I only use them for boss fights anyway)

It is affected by healing! If I remeber right mine is doing about 325 hp/pr second atm in my healing support build, which is quite neat in combo with all the other stuff I got going!

I know we can channel Magnet and swap kit, but I also know we can’t start “casting” Prybar, and then swap (that will interrupt the skill use) I’m actually not quite sure here the line goes in this area, but that praticualar comob I atleast know you can’t do (Been trying to do it myself hehe)

Tested in sPvP now, still working fine! yeah it have allways been like that you can see the white circel come up, then it’s time to trigger

Just tested it several times, working fine for me! Maybe you click to fast? you need to wait for like a ½ second before it trigger the Water field for 1 sec?

@Kardiamond when fighting Elementalist I try stack: Bleeding, Posion (Vulnerbillity now form sitting duck), burning, Cripple (Cripple with 100% duration iskittenfun!!!) and Confusion!
So yeah, I try throw everything I have at them so try prevent them removing my confusion by just swapping to water :P (But never use double cooldwons, so if I use Blowtorch I won’t use Fire bomb before he remove the burning, if I hit a concusion bomb I won’t ptrybar before he remove ect)

But really good Elementalist using Eather heal or whatever it’s called (See Intigo) is still super hard to keep condition removal on, because they got soo much removal, but it can be done hehe

@Goloith good numbers, about the way I have been thinking it as well, just never done the numbers

Kardiamond.6952:

But the damage in WvW is crazy, with 1200 conditions, which is pretty low, I can stack confusion for 5k damage a skill.

and nothing is more fun to do then that when the Theif is pressing 2222222222222 all the time!
Beside that, I do agree with your point!

Superior Sigil of Generosity or Purity and lot’s of dodge/blocks fix most of my conditon problems unless I’m vs a pure conditon damage build, which pretty much only Engineers, Necromancers and a few Mesmers run! I have very little condition removal in my builds and it really ain’t that much of a problem
+ the cleansing from turret or medkit antidote

(heck in WvW you can even eat food for 40% Shorter duration if you want to over kill it, I know you cna’t do that in sPvP)

@Kardiamond

I do agree that condition damage builds are the strongest for Engineers atm in WvW! And I’t more suited to my playstyle (I love Condition/DoT/All the names this kind a stuff have in other MMORPG games) ^^ I also do a full time Support jop in WvW when running with my group, and I prefer my power nade HGH build over anything else when defending sieges so those build still se a lot of love from me as well, I do other sutff as well

But, and it’s a big but, just because one of our playstyle is more viable then another (condition damage) praticular in the area Maska and me make videos (Roaming small scale) dosen’t mean that the Power builds are bad, because they can be awesome! While I do agree, they need more work now, I still think we are getting there? I know a lot is sad over the loose of 100nade, but I really think the new KR is an amazing idea, they just need to fine tune the numbers and remove the shared cooldown! So I while I am sad to see they changed KR into something worse (I used it in my support build) I don’t go whining, I try see the potential in the new KR, which to me look amazing!

Which new builds we have gotten? Well with the fix of condition duration any Condition nade build is beyond silly in WvW :P I mean 12 sec of chilled and 24 sec of bleeding nom nom!

On the topic of Power builds? It’s to early to say for me, I got a lot of testing I need to go with, but I have a feeling stastic discharge and that rifle Turret is gonna have a hot date with me soon!
And about my power build videos: I do more 1vs1 footage (and they are both as strong 1vs1 as my condition builds 1vs1 actually), but vs several enemies it’s harder to pull off burst build, because I only can land the combo on one good player, and then gotta wait for cooldowns, and they are designed apply pressure on the enemies all the time (where I can kite a lot more on condition damage builds when they get burning and bleeding on them, and still do damage)! So 1vs2 simply a lot harder because of the way those builds are played, combared to the condition damage builds! But when I use them in 1vs1 duels they are often as good as the condtion damage builds (If it ain’t Osicat and his !“/%¤/%(/!” reflect ahahaha) I mean, when I sit on 15-20 Might stacks I’m critting for 2k-2.5k on my Rifle Auto attacks, that’s quitethe pressure

And I think it’s fine you disucss with us haha, I would hate if people didn’t want to discuss with me But I do agree that there is more work needed for power builds then condtion build atm

P.S I’m having a blast of fun with a new Power Rifle build with Turrets for roaming! gonna be epic when I get a video with it going hehe

[quote=1715572;Rfreak.6591:
Switching kits a lot in order to do damage may seem counterintuitive but will make you lose damage if you are trying to achieve that, they are there for their utility, especially now that kit refinement is gone for good.[/quote]

Bahahahahahahahaha… Thanks for that laugh m8! That just made my day, now I won’t have to take you serious anymore!

My personal opinon about confusion is to lower it with 33% and buff it a bit in sPvP to the damage there is the same as in WvW with an 33% damage nerf (and keep it with full damage in PvE, heck buff it with 100% in PvE, it’s kittenty in PvE)

Killyox.3950:

Static and bomb is enough..

As engie you can get Confusion to last 7,5s in sPvP.

What is hard about switching kits a lot?

Does not matter if they notice confusion or not. They either DMG themselves or they don’t do anything for 5-7 seconds. Both are just as good. kitten if you do kitten if you don’t. True to design of confusion.

That I do agree with you about Good players never take daamge from confusion, but they either waste removal, or is prevented from doing stuff, which is a win in both cases, and most Bunker builds are doomed if they can’t do anything in hat duration

@Killyox

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Both without Stastic Discharge, and both with amazing burst damage! Also both work in sPvP hotjoints! So I consider me disagreeing with you

Rfreak, first of, just to point ou the two latest buffs: Turrets and Prybar! Okay, so we do get buffs sometimes! yay!
Also, everytime they add new statslines (like givers) or nerf stuff (like Theif burst) we get a buff that can make us more viable, that’s a thing a lot of Engineers forget all the freaking time: You don’t need to buff us direct to make us more viable, nerfs and changes to other classes can do that aswell?

Also, I have no problem with stuff taking it’s time, sure I would perfer everything got fixed instant, but that’s never been the case in any MMORPG I played, so whatever? It’s getting there slow and steady, and since the game came out It have been fun for me every day playing my Engineer! I have several differnt viable builds I use in WvW, and I’m never bored because I still to this day, keep coming up with new builds that I wanna play and get gear for!

The Kit Refinement “Revamp” is one of the best revamps I have seen them come up with! It’s an amazing Idea! Okay, the Shared Cooldown is stupid, and some of the durations needs to be fixed, but you know what? That can all be balanced, it’s simple numbers that need to be changed! Even more, it’s the only freaking change that can be counted as “negative” and yet, you all whine and talk about it as if the end of the world for Engineer’s, but I really don’t see it like this!

Also, all the awesome Turret buffs, I’m just waiting for the tPvP players to post builds and videos of how they get thme to work (Turrets will never be the big thing in WvW, but heck I’m having a blast with my new Net Turret when roaming)!

All in all Rfreak I have a hard time taking all this whine serious, I don’t know your builds, what part of the game you play or how good your at it! But I simply can’t see the same problems your having? And so what if more builds get viable ALSO (see prybar buff) when they fix bugs? It’s just awesome that bugs get fixed and we got more toys working? Also, I have been using several builds since the release of the game, which only gotten stronger and stronger with the bugfixing and changes in the game, and I keep coming up with builds

So yeah, I’m just fine with this new patch, and I’m having a blast (love the nerf to quickness)

But it ain’t HGH, and it get another playstyle, so would be kinda rash to do so Confusion is a bit OP, I agree in WvW, but even when you nerf it with 50% damage good players still stop doing damage ect, so it won’t matter much for serious 1vs1 or small scale fight in my opinon! Also played around with my Explosive tool kit build and it still packs a stupid amount of burst damage in WvW, so I’m really not that worried! gonna test a new Rifle build soon as well

@Kardiamond I keep meeting more and more HGH Engineers and Confusion memser as well, but I’m still going strong with my Bomb kit+ Tool kit + Net Turret, most of the time I just play with the poor fellows because of all the controll I have ofc. I’m abusing my 20 seconds of confusion to it’s full atm :P

But really, I don’t run a HGH condition buid, they are for sure strong, but i really don’t feel like it’s something I “Must” do atm.

I agree 100% with what Maskaganda, that’s pretty much how I feel about the Engineer class, and the community as well! While I do agree that KR is bad atm. It have far more potenial now when the numbers (removed shared CD would the trick) get’s worked on! Does it hurt any of my 10 different (if that can do it) builds I have succes with in WvW? Nope, not at all, I only had a single setup where I used it! I

I actually like both the Grenade and Elixir gun effect, the ELixir gun should just last a bit longer! Beside that, yeah I agree that they all should have a Cooldown, but they shouldn’t share it! The Cd should be 15-20 seconds, but I believe this will come when they stawrt gather data! But I agree with you on that would be ideal

@Kimbald you can buy it in WvW now, for 20 Badges of honor and then it’s a skin you can apply! You will find it at the armor seller, the last tap (just above selling) and then scroll down! So freakign amazing hehe

Most classes have long cooldown on their Condition removal tbh, the only classes that often is build with low CD removal is: D/D Elementalist, HGH Engineers and some Guardiens, and even then, I don’t need to give up much for 100% Duration, 2x Lyssa, 4x Lich and 2x Givers guns, (only 1x Givers gun in my 4 kit condition build), so really not much I give up for 5 stacks of confusion lasting for 10 seconds :P

YES YES YES! After 6 LOOOOONG Month I now have my look in PVE!!! THANK YOU ANET!

The best, most awesome HAT is now mine!!!!

Yeah They fixed both

@Bomber in WvW you can do this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYK0s_zT2zE

Just as your saying, it’s easy to land insane burst damage combo that will still pretty much instant whipe most enemies (mostly cause of Prybar being able to crit 5-7k damage) Most people just never realised that the Kit Refinement was a quite unessacry part of that damage combo! If people still wanna combo burst People, at lest in WvW, they can do it just fine

This is what I have been waiting for to do in a long long long time, but I would like to point out you don’t need to run a HGH build at all for this to work, my Confusion Bomb build is beyond broken now, able if I time everything to land 5 stacks confusion for 20 seconds (5 from prybar =10 sec) (5 from Bomb kit= 10 seconds)! Pretty much all our condition builds gotten very strong in WvW atm!

Also, another major buff many seem to miss out, is we no longer need to run stun breakers the same way we did before, because all the Warrior and Theives with their silly burst can’t pack the same instant punch as they once could, which open up for a new utility if you feel like that, also a major “buff” for my playstyle

@Rfreak all my builds I have made video’s off still work in WvW btw, so if you need a new build for WvW check them out, might have one you would like? None have gotten weaker, and will probaly come up with a few more the next weeks time! Also I’m sure the tPvP players gonna come up with some awesome stuff soon! But yeah the 20 sec CD is quite sad on kit Refinement, they should lower it for sure

@Timid Yeah I agree, thoI think for a condition damage build I probaly would go with the Net Turret and Rocket Turret or Flame Turret, I really like the extra controll that one brings! But Toolkit is for sure a strong pick (it allways is)! The reason I take the Grenade kit is so I actually can do stuff in zerg fights, not that I often care to join in on that tho, but wanna test out the new LOS thingie!

@Ayestes! Yeah I had up to the patch been running without a stun breaker aswell, using Mine or Net Turret for the lul’s, and it makes you so powerfull n 1vs1 situations if your able to control the fight (Net Turret is a beast 1vs1 against D/D elementalist ect) Didn’t have much trouble without it, only a few 100% Glass Cannon Theives that got the jump on me gave trouble, and they won’t after this nerf!

It’s including two turrets! Both Net Turret and Rifle Turret got buffed! Also, I’m gonna deploy both for sure, when the flow of the battle allow it! It’s simply a test to see if Turrets can be used for roaming now

@Ayetes I’m not sure what you mean? xD But Trap rangers are beastly atm in my opnion? So I take they whined about the major buffs aswell? :b

So yeah! Show me what build your gonna use, and for what (WvW, sPvP or even PvE), let’s put our heads together and see what people come up with! The first build I’m gonna play test is gonna be this one:
http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/engineer/?2.0|4.1g.h14|0.0.0.0.0.0|1n.7r.1m.7r.1g.7r.1p.7r.1p.7r.1p.7r|1n.64.1n.64.1n.64.1g.67.1g.67.1i.61|u58b.a6.0.a1.k62|15.7|2d.2f.2r.2s.0|e

Not sure about everything yet, but gonna be fun to test it out in WvW, should be able to use it for roaming (been trainning to play without stunbreak for some time now, and with the nerf to quickness I feel confident in not using one), and I should still be able to dish out some damage in siege fights ect! Tho, pure Theory crafting, gonna play test it when I get the time! anyway! What’s your build?

Edit: Had forgotten runes

Amiable the patch notes are great! Stop smoking whatever your smoking, ain’t good for your sight clearly!

WoW… Dark Omens consider me your greatest fan now! That is one of the most awesome über 1337 things I have seen the entire time I have been playing WvW! How did you manage to do it!?!?! 3 level 80 beating 6 upleveled players! I MEAN OMG!!! That’s so Stroonk! Gesus! you give Autographs!?!?! I mean! WOW! Dude! that’s some serious show of skills!

Sarcasm might be used in my post… who knows!

I would like you Goloith to make a list where you compare the Engineer to other classes in WvW, Solo roaming, Small Havoc Squads and Large Groups, just these 3 points, with the other classes! Because compared to most other classes we are actually quite good and viable in all area’s of WvW!

Edit: You know what, Split Large Groups into Siege Fights and Open Field Fights, just to make a prober covering system! If you don’t feel like doing it I will gladly make you a list, to show you just how viable the Enigneer is in WvW atm (we have never been better atm, but ofc. patch day is today)

@Anymras, Yeah, they for sure appear to be talking aobut stuff, which is great knews I gues? I just wish they would care to explain a bit more, and open up for us! Pretty much what @Zinwrath wrote about Riot, is a great and honest way to work the community!

@Zinwrath I agree, I have taken notice of that being a general tendens whenever they actually go out to talk about upcoming stuff it turns into “Yeah, I really can’t talk about that, but we are looking into that area”! I really don’t get they have to be this strict about what they say! Give us some goodies!

I tend to see skill 4 as a leftover from when skill 5 was the Pull ability, you could pull and push enemies trough the wall, so used right you could at least make them get hit 3 times (Throwing it at them, then pulling them trough it, and then pushing them into it again) was actually quite fun to do haha ^^

But yeah, I’m seeing a lot more Engineers in WvW as well actually, most of them roaming around with double pistols and a prybar hehe

Keep in mind that Knight Armor is stated as following: Toughness/Preci/Power, because the major stat on Knight armor is Toughness! So a set with Power as Major stat, followed by Toughness and Precision does nto exist!

@BILL GE.8716 Yeah I don’t run a FT build, mostly because I have trouble using it solo/roaming play hehe! But you know what, just to keep this topic on FT, you can just send me an PM here on the forums, with what you want to use the Grenade and Bomt builds for in WvW, and I can share some builds with you for what you wanna do!

Don’t get to scared of using the Flamethrower in WvW if you really love that weapon! Depending on what you want to do, you can use it in WvW, for large group fights ect. It can (and sees) use! You can both do it the HGH might stacking way with Elixirs, or you can go for a more supportive Flamethrower using Elixir gun, depending on what you like! Aim for some P/V/T gear, or a mix of Valk and Knight armor, cause you gonna take some hits on the frontline with a Flamethrower! for solo roaming I don’t recommend it tho, it have some serious trouble there!

We don’t know yet, the only information we truely have is they want to introduce more “counters” to Boons, maybe a flat % damage bonus depending on how many boons, or maybe more boon removal! Time will tell!

Ello everyone! Markus Valadir (an IRL m8) and me, decided to show some of the tactics we use to,(Most of the time just the two of us), to take towers when the defenders in the Borderlands are slacking! We deicided to do it in a fun way, and we hope some guys will find it worth watching and have a laugh over! It’s not meant to be anything serious, more some entertainment for the WvWers! Anyway, Episode 1 and 2 is ready to be seen! So please enjoy!

Memories of Drakeco Dustslinger & Markus Valadir – Episode 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNaq2U21wuE

Memories of Drakeco Dustslinger & Markus Valadir – Episode 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB63onnsHKM&feature=youtu.be

- Drakeco Dustslinger

Ello everone! Just an update, and two fun videos (Nothing serious) for you guys into a cheap laugh!

The videos! Markus staying at my place this weekend, so we decided we wanted to make some funny videos with us doing some action in WvW where you only need a 2-5 people and still can do a difference!

Memories of Drakeco Dustslinger & Markus Valadir – Episode 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNaq2U21wuE

Memories of Drakeco Dustslinger & Markus Valadir – Episode 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB63onnsHKM&feature=youtu.be

Nothing serious, but you might find it fun!

On the more serious note, Markus is going to help me create the very first “How to video”, this weekend, going to be “How to: Theif”, and I will follow up that with “How to: Mesmer” with the help from Osicat! Thanks to both of them! It’s good be made in sPvP, where I will show case some of the most Iconic/Watch out for skills, and a little talk about some of the often used builds by these classes!

If we have the time, and get the footage there might come a new build video of, time will tell! Anyway! Take care Engineer’s!

Hope Riverside gotten more open field combat “kommanders” (hehe), since last time! and solo roamers! You was quite low on that the last time we met you! But anyway! Looking forward to fight Riverside again, been quite the time, so I gues a lot of stuff changed for you guys aswell!

If any good solo players is up for some duels please contact me ingame, so we can figure out something!

Well, calm down a bit with the " Will Destroy" titel, we still have no idea about how any of the “Boon hate” stuff is going to work, so hard to really discuss/talk about how it will affect the Engineer! It might destory us, and it not really make a big effect on small scale!

@Iddizzia EU T3-T2 got plenty of action for solo roaming (where Piken Square is sitting most of the time), there is a lot of people active in the EU primetime period, but also midday and late evenings can bring you a lot of action!

Edit: This movie is from last week T3 match up :b

He got perma Regen and often large duration of Protection running, that’s help a lot on the defence!

Nothing like a super pro Theif that 222222222 himself to death hehe Allways makes my day better hehe

Awesome video as allways Maskaganda!
Love how well the Toolkit is working out for you, glad you ended up picking it!
Can’t remeber the name on the Engineer [BC] guild, but seen her around and been handing ab it around with her, and she’s a great player! some solid fights!
A tip, the theif doing his spin around Ulti in the first battle, whack him with the Prybar, he can’t reflect that, and his gonna take a truck lose of confusion damage! =)

hehe welcome to the Engineer community on offical forums!! =)
P.S Asura Engineers is the best!

Yeah I know most experince Engineer palyers won’t gain anything from them, but I felt that the new players could find it usefull, and I needed the commentary ecperince ect! All ready working on finding people willing to partipate in 1vs1 duels I can use in those commentary videos aswell (So I can show how to fight aswell)

I dropped the idea of going into sPvP hotjoins for commentary, first of I sucked at multi tasking so could’t play and speak on the same time, and also when it’s 8vs8 everything just became a mess of people shooting all over the place! So gonna frap the stuff, and then create the commentary after hehe