just reroll a warrior, all the cool kids are doing it.
This.
Or a thief, mesmer…
Or wait to the patch notes were will be introduced more counters to CC.
those classes don’t have healing signet.
Thats the point… They dont need one.
Well if i had a 6 secs stun chain with 23+k hp + stability+block maybe i won’t need signet…because i would be op already even without healing signet..
Well if i had DeathShroud, or clones, or stealth, or pets, or protection, or ports, i would not need healing signet either.
Get my clones and my 3 sec stealth on long cd utility for just your base hp pool and stability spam…deal? Oh you can get portal too…so i would finally bring something for me instead of a team support (Or 2 with illusion)…
Clones…yeah…
I know… clones are useless… yeah…
Unless you’re an hotjoin/wvsw hero still fooled by clones…yes…pretty much…would be nice to have burst with only one button like many others without having to set up clones first, oh well you probably don’t even know how shatter combo works so..nvm
just reroll a warrior, all the cool kids are doing it.
This.
Or a thief, mesmer…
Or wait to the patch notes were will be introduced more counters to CC.
those classes don’t have healing signet.
Thats the point… They dont need one.
Well if i had a 6 secs stun chain with 23+k hp + stability+block maybe i won’t need signet…because i would be op already even without healing signet..
Well if i had DeathShroud, or clones, or stealth, or pets, or protection, or ports, i would not need healing signet either.
Get my clones and my 3 sec stealth on long cd utility for just your base hp pool and stability spam…deal? Oh you can get portal too…so i would finally bring something for me instead of a team support (Or 2 with illusion)…
Sure…playing pvp since start taught me to never think it can’t get worse…it always can, devs are apparently working much on this..from removing gems from tpvp to giving us skyhammer and so on..
but still you are playing, don’t you?
Hope is the last one to die..
Especially after years of GW1 PvP
Exactly…you just keep saying yourself “This is pvp in a game called guild wars…it MUST get better…can’t suck forever…” When you’ve been for something like 7 years on a game you simply don’t want to believe they ruined everything…even if facts say the complete opposite..call it fanboy’s regrets…but that’s it
Sure…playing pvp since start taught me to never think it can’t get worse…it always can, devs are apparently working much on this..from removing gems from tpvp to giving us skyhammer and so on..
Sure…playing pvp since start taught me to never think it can’t get worse…it always can, devs are apparently working much on this..from removing gems from tpvp to giving us skyhammer and so on..
I’m ready for those big changes, for this great pvp patch everyone’s waiting since months fixing all pvp issues and lamefest we have and bringing decent rewards to pvp community. This is gonna be The Great One and i know anet’s devs worked so much on this so…
Why do you even want to catch an ele? You can just sit there spamming kitten and kill him, if he goes away another war/necro/s/d thief is going to kik him to doom somewhere else..
It doesn’t matter who I am when you don’t understand what people generally do in hotjoins (farm glory, not give a kitten about winning/losing.). I’m just pointing out the obvious, you (a rank 45) seem to be one of those skyhammer farmers you berate so much if you don’t know the mechanics of hotjoins. I’m only rank 49 and i’ve got over 3000 tournament games. For you to not understand why the scores are as they are with the current ranks you must have only ever done hotjoin I assume?
Basically, in hot join nobody cares about winning (high rank players specifically). People test/have fun with new/troll builds(eg. rabid amulet guardian). You’re making baseless assumptions on the high ranked individuals on your team because they didn’t give a kitten about what the score was, only their glory farmed. For your sake I’m happy you blacked out the names as to not embarrass yourself even more.
At the end of the day you can easily spot out who farmed his rank and who didn’t…or you can just ping you stacks of tpvp chests just to give an idea xD I saw many around seeing ravager and starting with “skyhammer farm” and stuff…and then being owned like pigs by a poor almost-out-of-meta mesmer..maybe while they play s/d thief too…and then rage mesmer op qq….some weird ppl around…
There’s a difference from going from 1 to 60 in skyhammer and goin from 57 to 60 with 2000+ tpvp matches just because 150k with current tpvp rewards it’s insane (Even more if you’re forced to play bunker guard since you refuse to go lame fotm (months actually) s/d on thief and mesmer is just…meh…), and ppl usually learn it the hard way..totally fine on deleting sh or even all hotjoin/arenas, but for god’s sake give us decent rewards in tpvp or ppl are gonna quit really fast…like many already did
Real problem is that sh ranks are worth nothing, even more if someone made it from 1 to 50+ (There are many) with no clue about tpvp and stuff…but at the end of the day hotjoin ranks are not worth something more than sh (Jumping down a window or spamming granades on the zerg @ mid are equally skilled imo)…farmers are gonna farm no matter what, if they want to force ppl out of farming they must delete hotjoin/arenas already giving better modes and rewards for tpvp..right now if you want to keep up with ppl farming 10 hours/day the only thing you can do is to go farm yourself too, you can get 5-8k/hour at skyhammer…last night i went 10 tpvp runs with bunker guardian in friend’s team, won like 7-8…result? less than 3k glory (For more than 2 hours) and crap chests already added to my 200+ stack on guardian (+ others on mes and thief)…not even worth opening..
Again skyhammer farm is lame…like hotjoin farm is lame too
But real question is: “Which other mode is more rewarding than lamefests atm?”
It’ becoming ridiculous, we barely won against this setup (the missing spots from blue team were rank 2, 5 and:
In our team, everyone with tiger and bear finishers and the game play was like 1 year ago in the beta weekends., when everyone was pressing random buttons and smashing each other.
This degraded too much. Pre skyhammer the score with those ranks would be 500 to 50.
True but please…don’t bring hotzerg screens for proving something xD
Sometimes i intentionaly don’t stomp people. I just torture them so they can not get back in the fight too soon.
Pretty common in tpvp to make someone downed lose time while leaving his team 4vs5, unless it’s a ranger who (As we all know) can rez himself outhealing any dps with that stupid lick wounds…but this is another, old, story…
I have so much regen on my ranger that I don’t even have to worry about confusion. In most cases, I just keep firing in order to give my opponent a chance!
Being able to ignore something that should punish spammers hard instead says much about the sotg…
Is the bonus 200 rank points for winning a rated match not counting towards the PvP title progression an intended thing or is it a bug?
I should normally get my Marauder title on rank 49+, but I won’t be even be half-way through when I’m there. Seems rather bothering. It’s been so since the release.
I’m just very curious if it’s intended, curious since the release.
As for the title, I was kind of reluctant and careful not to break the Code of Conduct, so in case anyone’s disturbed by it, I’ll change it.
Cheers!
If you tpvp you’ll get marauder around 52-52 1/2 depending on role (Got it with dps, bunker is going to be even slower)…anyway not at 50 for sure unless you farmed skyhammer like many out there..basically the more points/match you get the faster titles are…that’s why hj heroes and skyhammer farmers get titles really fast (Like everything else btw) If you see a r50 marauder really high chance he’s a hj/sh farmer…and yes that’s why tpvp sux even more..
Kill spirit ranger build, nerf S/D thief porting, perma stun wars, and necro condi spam. Give us a possible counterplay to burning procs or totally remove them.
Pretty much this…anything with low skill high reward should be removed, you see r20 necros spamming kitten on points all day and you actually have to play really good to bring down someone who has no clue and just spams random stuff around…same for spirit rangers, s/d thieves and so on…i see ppl going in tournament without even knowing their traits, many just go in with unknown copy-pasted builds from forum succeding just because their class is totally bs…srsly this kitten Fotm Wars 2 must end once and for all
for the love of god why? Why if there was something good in gw1 you just delete it replacing with crap instead? Guild capes would be awesome for everything from pve/wvsw to pvp and we just have those ugly flags noone uses…
Is that really so hard? Stop “looking into it” and start with those dam little but nice fixes we’re all waiting for already…how you can possibly claim to care bout big problems if you don’t even care about simple and obvious things? And don’t say you’ve more important things to do instead after working on and implementing kittening lame skyhammer..
It definitely happened. The infrequency of an unskilled player obtaining notable rank isn’t that relevant though. The thing is, in Heroes Ascent, teams were formed by the players prior to entering the matches. Unskilled players didn’t get picked for teams. They certainly didn’t get picked by winning teams, at least.
I do recall a terrible protection monk who was rank14 (out 15 total, which is HUGE). Im sure that particular player didn’t get his rank via monking though.
Yes, ban PvE-rs for farming sPvP ranks, because ranks are so big deal skilled hotjoin heroes, yo, so big, it hurts. And remove 8×8 modes. And remove hotjoin. And make dailies only for tPvP. And rewars only for top 500 in leaderboards. And glory only for wins, in tPvP ofc.
All those progressive measures, asked by hardcore forum whiners PvP professionals, certainly will attract new people to sPvP, this is exactly what we need right now. Do it, Anet! Do it!
Yes please…and then we will have gw1 back…finally..
report then server side check for char response, activity (Moving, using skills…doing stuff..) if confirmed, leaver debuff and at third debuff 72 hours ban. And 10 lost matches for every confirmed afk\leave report. Leaving or going afk hurts other player’s game experience…and, as far as i know, it’s against eula…so yes they can ban for it and they should start doing that asap.
Here you have the solution, let’s see what happens..
If you don’t want to get randoms just don’t go soloq…ultima is not bad for sure, but this “god wannabe” attitude it’s just both ridicolous and childish, there are better guardians around and they don’t act like they’re the only one able to play…if you get a bad team you MUST still play as good as possible for your team, if you don’t like it just go tpvp with your premade and get the kitten off already..this screen is one reason why many ppl don’t go soloq cause you eventually get idiots like this that make you lose, if you are really so good just try to balance bad ones out maybe (Or do you need a good team for being good? Pretty easy cookies…) instead of going afk like a raging fat child..
Start banning ppl for real already anet, we don’t need those kids here…
1, Berserker stance – Nothing should give immunity to entire types of classes. no counter play. Very lame. Just make it 90% reduction in condition duration then at least necros can interrupt them
2, Automated response – see above. Losing to someone who is just 100x worse than you just because of a trait they take it total BS. How is this still in the game?
3, Warrior stuns – insane. You literally get knocked around like a ping pong ball by the warrior then die. Interrupt them you say! No you cant. Because they are immune to anything I do (lol)
4, Sword thief evades – way too many evades, teleports, etc on this weapon set
5, Thief feline grace trait – seriously wtf. They get to dodge for less. Anet need to realise dodging and evades = invulnerable. Invulnerable is good in pvp. Seriously.
and so on…
Oh strange you forgot to put perma fear necros, insane aoe cond spam, minions everywhere and stuff into your “to fix” list…but since you play it i guess it’s fine as it is…am i right?
“Just make it 90% reduction in condition duration then at least NECROS can interrupt them” Made my day…..just make every class (Even more) easily killable with my op-mancer anet, so we can run 3 necros teams owning everything just spamming random kitten on points with no effort…seriously? Some classes obviously deserve a nerf…and yours sir is definately one of those…
Have you ever took a look at all those topics in spvp forum?
Have you ever looked at the profession subforums? Nearly every one is convinced that the devs specifically target their profession for nerfs every patch in a grand conspiracy to bring them down. They believe their profession is the hardest to master and yet the weakest even when played at skill cap.
The WvW forum is literally filled with people spewing hatred at devs because they believe that PvP is getting all the resources. Seriously, I would be surprised if I heard there weren’t regular death threats.
Even the general forum has conspiracy theorists and people making weird single-paragraph text walls because they feel somehow the devs are being unfair to them. (You’re farming champions in a giant autoattacking zerg for crying out loud…how are the devs being unfair to you?) That’s the one that gets me.
There’s nothing special going on here—it’s called human nature. It’s what makes us feel offended even when there’s no reason to be, or become angry over trivial things like video games. Plus, the devs post here practically every day, so…
Look at pvp population, events and content updates…then look at wvsw and pve, you can clearly see who gets more. Read any patch note till now…and spot out differences in content upgrades there, you’ll find your answer…no conspiracy theories here, just facts..
The Devs are not the problem. When you look how many ppl play PvP and how many PvE and you would be the one who make the money and spent the money. Where will get more resources?
Resources are a problem for sure…but real problem is that they focus on worthless or even harmful changes instead of focusing on problems ppl are explaining since start..and when you see devs (Who are supposed to listen to their players acting accordingly to what they ask) messing stuff up even more instead what do you do then? You leave pvp…quitting or going pve/wvsw….it’s a circle and it’s totally their fault, and now it’s time to fix this behaviour already…it’s not too late..or at least i hope so..
Problem is that at game lauch they said glory was going to be pvp currency like gold for pve (Aka trading for gems), they said there were good tpvp rewards incoming (Do you remember qpnts? I do..)….and nothing happened, problem is that they keep promising nice things but at the end of the day they don’t give a single kitten to real pvp problems. As i said implementing sh (Stupid as map itself + started glory farm servers too) instead of fixing real problems that are here since start demostrates they don’t even look at spvp forum and discussions at all…..hundreds of topics bout crap rewards and ppl leaving cuz nothing to get in pvp and what they do? Let’s put in a crappy lame map instead…i’m seriously asking myself if devs actually play their game…for real..and if you don’t play this game, dear god, listen to those who play it from start already
Have you ever took a look at all those topics in spvp forum? Because all i see are 90% questions, discussions and proposals blatantly ignored by pvp developers…no answers, nothing. We’re actually talking about spvp reward system, people talked about gold and gems, skins and legendary weapons and noone can give an answer…all you can say it’s we’re looking into it, it’s in our “to do list” and kitten like that, nothing else. Truth is that you seriously don’t give a kitten about pvp at all, i don’t care if you’re looking into something…when ppl ask questions you MUST (Yes must because at the end of the day we paid for the game AND its support) give clear answers: what are you gonna do or not and within a date, because as we all know “looking into it” means from1 to 6 months and it’s not the answer we want. Second thing stop saying that you have “more important things to do” because i saw you working on and implementing that kittening skyhammer map while there were WAY BIGGER problems like no tpvp rewards, no gems to buy PVP arenas, worthless glory and so on…if your priority with all those things still there was freakin skyhammer i really don’t think you have more important things to do than keeping attention on ppl questions and discussions. You should change your behaviour with ppl you’re working for and you should do it quickly…many already left and many are going to leave soon. Most have no faith in you (With good reasons) and those who are still trying to hope this will get better (Like me) are mostly from gw1 and since we’re still in love with it we simply refuse to believe you totally ruined the game we used to play for many years and maybe still playing. Look at your community anet, give us exaustive anwers, follow and partecipate to discussions and suggestions because doing it on your own already turned out to be an epic fail…let US set priorities…ask US bout what you should dedicate to, i bet noone would have voted for skyhammer map instead of reward system fix. Start working for your community FOR REAL or delete pvp from gw2 already, you got your money and those stupid nostalgics could move on to another game without sticking around hoping for some fresh air while you keep screwing it up. Make you choice anet…once and for all, time is running out and it’s almost over. No need an answer..i’ll get mine looking at the next few patches and discussions, after that…in or out. And you ppl from the mists give your opinion bout this situation, here is mine….
yeah just make everyone vulnerable to fear and no ways to get rid of it because perma-fear necros are not powerful enough…not sure if trolling or what…necros already kittened up thieves and mesmers from tpvp cuz no stability vs fear spam = death, now asking for condition clean or condition into boon nerf too, then what an ultra tanky mode with gazillion hp and tough with perma condition spam? Oh wait you already have it too
Reasons for my listing is pure representation based. No theory crafting or views on individual abilities, just a real world litmus test of what classes a team will bring when a real consequence to losing exists.
The data I am using comes from the PAX invitational, both the final and the Open qualifier finals for NA and EU, and the ESL Open Finals and Grand Finals. That is a total of 8 teams, each reaching the highest levels of success.
S:
=Ranger
9/8 On the 8 teams being most successful in these tournaments there were 9 Rangers. One team was willing to bring 2 rangers over any other class.
A:
+Guardian
8/8 Every single one of the 8 teams had 1 Guardian. May be closer to S class.
+Necromancer
8/8 with one Necromancer per team. May be closer to S class.
-Thief
6/8 Six of the 8 teams gave a team spot to a thief. With 8 professions and only 5 spots on a team, no profession should expect 100% representation. With 40 total spots over 8 teams, each profession should have 5. The thief may be the only true “A” but I will assign it a – and give the other two A class professions a + to denote the difference.
B:
=Warrior
3/8 Warriors were found on only 3 of the 8 teams. Two of the teams were finalists so Warrior may deserve a +, only more tournaments will show that. Regardless warriors are under-representing since each profession should achieve 5 spots out of 40 or 12.5% representation in top teams.
=Engineer
3/8 Three of the 8 teams had an engineer spot. One of the engineer spots was a finalist team. Engineer may be a – when compared directly in this category with warrior. Finalist spot is a very close distinction, and both are equally under-represented, so both are simply listed as =.
C:
Elementalist
1/8 Only one elementalist found a spot in the top 8. Help these guys. The most under-represented profession at this time.
No mesmer? lol and people are still calling for nerfs on us.
Because we have cloneeessssss man…op cloneeeeessss everywhere. kitten
Have to say i lol’d xD If you see a spirit ronger with freakin spirits everywhere just go aoe like if there’s no tomorrow and it’s usually done (They’re not mesmers, they just dunno what to do when someone kills their spirits, most of them are instructed to “Put spirits up while autoattack+dodge and don’t touch nothing”). Lame build…counterable but still lame as kitten…a build that can just autoattack to win should not be rewarded at all….oh sorry my mistake, i always forget about the “casual friendly” kitten part of the plan…
Well since noone is exploiting game errors or bugs or hurting public ladders or economy we can’t call this exploit at all, this is not RR, there’s no ladder for hotjoin and noone gets “hurt” by this…sure it’s lame but we can say the same for those failing events on purpose or capping at night in wvsw while everyone is asleep (Well night cap is even worse cause THERE IS a wvsw ladder and those are negating bonuses to other servers too) Anet made the mistake to give ppl crap skyhammer map with istant-death mechanincs allowing ppl to die faster…noone can blame someone else because he jumps from a cliff, i can even go tpvp without weapons and naked if i want too…sure i would be an idiot and it would be lame for my team…but exploiting it’s different. Solution? Delete skyhammer already (Np with that it’s a crap map anyways and noone likes it, pretty much like capricorn) …no way to farm fast glory without istant death, ppl will still farm like many did since start (Circle capping, aoe on full team then swap and the same on the other and so on..) all those r70 (And i mean every single one r70) and many 65+ do this everyday from start, skyhammer just gave it a boost with his stupid istant death..ppl are gonna farm no matter what you do…it’s up to you giving something more attracting than mindless farm..like good rewards for tpvp, new modes and so on. You can’t just put a crap reward system, no incentives on playing tpvp and insane amounts of honor needed for high ranks and pretend ppl not to use the fastest way to get there…give ppl other ways, many if not all will leave farm fests. Right now this is just the result of YOUR errors anet, you got what you deserved…nothing more nothing less. Give more kittening attention to pvp and pvpers already instead of fixing commands and kitten like that…this is not gonna work…everyone knows this..
And maybe an answer from devs would be really appreciated.
Sure but let ppl get pve ultra rares (Like cristalline sword in ha) from chests like hoh too…even more valuable than every legendary out there….want to go pvp with pve stuff like gw1? Fine but let ppl in pvp get same rewards as gw1’s players then…pve heroes already have too much in pvp compared to what we have if we go pve…custom arenas for example, pve guys can afford them even if they never went into the mists and those who pvp since start can’t because we all have no money to buy gems…and can’t get golds or gems in pvp at all. Give us our stuff we can use, sell and show in pve and you can bring your pve skins in pvp…till then keep ranking up if you want good looking stuff..
One year of pvp (Tpvp mostly),r60, 1.3+kk glory, 4 champ titles, ladder and stuff for what? 40golds and one char slot + some crap minis bought with old paid gems…can’t even buy a decent skin or 2 abyss…..
Already stopped going tpvp (Just sometimes with friends) and soloq, rewards are just pointless and since i need 150k\rank is going to take way too long considering i main bunker atm..300 total honor if you win with no gold, gems or decent stuff…the only way it’s hotjoin zergfest…no rewards but at least you rank up faster..giving more to those who stomp hotjoin nabs all day instead of promoting tpvp it’s your choice…make tpvp viable and rewarding (In terms of honor, gold etc) or it will die….come on if you went full pvp since start you can’t even afford a pvp custom arena while any pve hero out there can…nothing to say (Well i actually have many things to say but i would get banned for insults, once again..)
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