I once made a spiritranger, went hot join and pressed all buttons in a random order, as I basicly had no idea how to play Spiritranger.
I actually did quiet well.
Now, try this with a mesmer.
That’s all you need to do…pressing all buttons on cd in a random order it’s already a skilled way to play spirit ranger…many ppl just spam autoattack…
We already made 2 ele specs that are going to be pretty much immortal after patch for our guild team…just waiting for 10 dec to unleash them….at least we all know who’s going to be next insane fotm spec…bunker meta is coming, remember those words…
bunker meta will be countered by spike damage if the right teams play it
but i look forward to playing against your team then
We already went for some runs with a lame 5 bunker/condition comp just to have a little test, 4 runs (Even getting vs mmr 100-150 guys) worst match 234-500 for us…bunker meta is already here, spike dmg can do nothing vs 2 bunkers at mid + 2 at close with one roaming…too much healing, blindness, weakness and condition removal to cc someone in order to put out a decent spike (30+ secs restacking stability on everyone…no joke)…and even if someone goes down other 2 ppl with runes of mercy can rez him up in no time (Under dps too)
We know it’s lame and i we all felt dumb for going like that…fact is that it already works, and after condition nerf and some buffs is going to be even more powerful..and even more lame..but as i said to someone (Obviously) complaining bout that…since they had those wars, necros and stuff just spamming around everything is legit…wanna play lame? Let’s play lame then..
Sounds extremely boring lol.
It is…it’s boring as kitten and lame, almost never had to use healing skill, just wait for them going down due to continous condition restack and stomp gg…that’s why after positive testing for the lulz we went back to balanced (1 bunker 2 condition 2 dps) comp…not nearly as effective as that kitten…but at least we have fun with it…it’s ok for someone who wants to go “top” (lol) ladder not giving a kitten bout skilled play, but since i don’t really give a single kitten bout ladder (I don’t even know where i am..in both solo and team) i’d rather play high risk stuff…and have fun, maybe losing vs cheese comps too..we just proved that if you want to go top you can go top with pretty much no effort…just go for lame comps/specs and gg, i bet r10s team playing that kitten would be sort of effective anyway…no skills needed going with condition/bunker team, you literally have to do big and continuous mistakes to lose…and i mean really big ones..in a r50-60 team like ours it’s just…overkill, r40-50 ppl just stop playing sitting around waiting for match to end, it’s the anti-pvp…and hell it works…sadly..but i really suggest not to use dat kitten if you want to enjoy the game and improve your skills…at all
We already made 2 ele specs that are going to be pretty much immortal after patch for our guild team…just waiting for 10 dec to unleash them….at least we all know who’s going to be next insane fotm spec…bunker meta is coming, remember those words…
bunker meta will be countered by spike damage if the right teams play it
but i look forward to playing against your team then
We already went for some runs with a lame 5 bunker/condition comp just to have a little test, 4 runs (Even getting vs mmr 100-150 guys) worst match 234-500 for us…bunker meta is already here, spike dmg can do nothing vs 2 bunkers at mid + 2 at close with one roaming…too much healing, blindness, weakness and condition removal to cc someone in order to put out a decent spike (30+ secs restacking stability on everyone…no joke)…and even if someone goes down other 2 ppl with runes of mercy can rez him up in no time (Under dps too)
We know it’s lame and i we all felt dumb for going like that…fact is that it already works, and after condition nerf and some buffs is going to be even more powerful..and even more lame..but as i said to someone (Obviously) complaining bout that…since they had those wars, necros and stuff just spamming around everything is legit…wanna play lame? Let’s play lame then..
We already made 2 ele specs that are going to be pretty much immortal after patch for our guild team…just waiting for 10 dec to unleash them….at least we all know who’s going to be next insane fotm spec…bunker meta is coming, remember those words…
Aside from the usual complaining, here is why Thief is broken:
Backstab
Attack your foe from the shadows, striking for double damage if you hit from behind.
Damage Front damage: 403 (1.2)
Damage Back damage: 806 (2.4)
— In-game description
Notes
Despite the fact that the description states that double damage will only occur if you hit the target from behind, testing on the PvP golems reveals that the double damage will still occur if you hit the target from the side.
It is too easy for a Thief to exploit this skill by lightly strafing around in face to face combat.
~ Would be nice if it was fixed
Not a big deal…there are many more thing to fix before this..like necro condition spam and braindead warriors first..at least burst thieves die very easily when focused a bit and require skills to stay alive..
I don’t think so…wars don’t even need to spot real mesmer out of his clones…they just swing weapons around, yeah…so pro..
Trust me, I know where you are.
However, that would mean you can use your clones as shields. Because if classes can’t cleave, that would mean the nearest enemy hit should be the only thing hit. Or should the hit give priority to the enemy targeted?
And then… that would mean autoattacks shouldn’t damage an enemy while in stealth? I hope not, for I feel a player should be rewarded for guessing right when he can’t see the enemy.
Clones with no hp as shield? Think you’re confusing with mm necros and rangers sitting on their minions/pets to abuse target priority…i never said you shouldn’t damage someone while he’s in stealth…if you read again you’ll see i said you must hit the one you target, not just hit something random just because you will hit everything around anyway…if you target a clone you hit the clone…not the clone AND everything else around it (Same goes for teamfights, to much aoes already and some classes can still autoattack someone while dealing damage to everyone else on point too)…with autoattack…does it make sense to you?
This is spam to win meta…we all know..that’s why i’m not going tpvp after ladder reset until it’s fixed (On 10 dec maybe)…going in just to be spammed with skilles random kitten all the time? No thanks…see you after condition and braindead spam nerf..
They’re bots controlled by pets…since pets/spirits appear to be the real players there…they’re just like ai mesmer phantasms…they just keep attacking something while their companions do the job..give mesmer a shortbow so we can have “summon illusionary pew pew ranger” that would be great…
Shatter is an aoe skill like many others and it’s supposed to hit multiple targets…war autoattack isn’t and still hits aoe,
If you think that auto-attack cleaving is not intended, then report it as a bug.
I think healing signet stupid regen and ele’s immortality months and months ago were intended too…something being intended doesn’t mean it’s not a braindead mechaninc…all this spam to win meta is intended…does it mean it’s good pvp rewarding skills? I don’t think so…wars don’t even need to spot real mesmer out of his clones…they just swing weapons around, yeah…so pro..
“…warrior hitting you while also hitting clone…” You mean the same clone that if it gets shattered it does cleave damage?..or the clone that if destroyed does cleave conditions?..enough said? Nice to highlight the warrior when mesmer/ranger/thief/guardian/ele can all do cleave damage as well.
Tip: Cleave only works if your all standing in melee range to the cleaver.
Shatter is an aoe skill like many others and it’s supposed to hit multiple targets…war autoattack isn’t and still hits aoe, and with cripple, immobilize, chill and kitten is a bit hard to get away in time, if you attack a clone you should hit the clone…not everything around too. At this point who need targets? Just spam to win…and this meta proves it. Skills supposed to be aoe like earthshaker are supposed to hit multiple targets, aswell as many others in other professions..but cleave on pretty much every single skill? Nonsense…and if noone can see the problem here no wonder why this pvp sux so much. Not even answering wars trying to defend their perma aoe spam…not worth the time..
5k Arcing Arrow on a condi build? You should try playing with armor on. :P
It’s happend to me.. okay maybe not 5k
3-4k~ crits.. All the time. As a Shatter mesmer it hurts.
I don’t know if he was running Rampager’s amulet, but the damage on arcing arrow is getting nerfed for a reason.
Still basically invulnerable while the Damage ticks with sheild stance or endure pain/zerkstance.
Edit; My mistake it’s Combustive Shot that’s getting nerfed.. Anet y u bad at balance… nerf the 4k arrow crits.. :/
Nerf shatter, i don’t want some s…t following me for half map bc someone pressed one button.
Are you talking bout ranger’s pets? Because you know…shatter mesmer’s clones/phantasms are meant to…well…being shattered, and they go nowhere near to half map even if you leave them on for some reason..
PU mesmer is a duel spec…and duel specs are useless except for goin rambo style in 1vs1 arenas and get a temp ego boost thinking to be so pro and stuff…outside that is going nowhere in conquest mode, noone needs an immortal troll spamming random conditions and going invisible…cause he’s going to kill nothing (And if you need conditions there are way better classes for that) like a bunker but can’t hold points or support too…in other words…worthless, already met someone running that in tpvp, you can just ignore him…he’s gonna die at the end after all his mates got wiped off cause they’re basically missing one in teamfight…
Pets will have to scale at some point as rangers were already behind in PvE because the pets can’t achieve the 110% crit damage bonus other classes can, and with the introduction of ascended items meaning a 15% difference in stats, the pets will keep falling behind.
You know noone here gives a single kitten to pve right?
There’s no sense on kiting someone if he can hit you anyway cuz pretty much all his attacks cleave (Warriors cough…) we already have enough aoe spam on points, if you want to hit aoe you must use an aoe skill…being able to hit everything around (Like that mesmer who went decoy with a braindead war hitting the clone while hitting YOU TOO, ppl rezzing and so on) just spamming kitten even without a target has no sense. Stop this easy mode already…you almost no need tagets anymore in tpvp cause everyone just goes aoe-ragespam on everything moving…sigle target skills MUST be single target…leave it as it is in pve so ppl can still mindlessly kill everything around i don’t give a kitten…but in pvp random spam (Aswell as ai and self activating traits) is just stupid…and stupid play must not be rewarded..
pet stats should match ranger’s…tanky pets for tough\vit specs and dps\cond for dps\cond ones…bunker’s pet must not crit for 5k, whatever you use it should have stats related to yours…otherwise you’re basically going around with a bunker coupled with a pocket warrior all the time. Again if you spec dps your pet must be dps (Not condition or tanky) and if you go bunker your pet is gonna be hard to kill but hitting like a bunker..
team queue in solo is awesome…since i’m playing for the lulz until ladder reset + 10 dec patch (So not going to play tpvp at all between 26 and 10 dec patch, until all this noob spam to win meta is fixed) i’m just going pug in team queue…having more fun than soloq..
id rather be 4 players than have an ele with me )):
i’d rather have a skilled ele and lose than 3 braindead noskill wars/spirit rangers and win, since they’re gonna reset everything on 26th anyway…points of view, playing with good ppl is always better than watching bads climb up just because they run faceroll fotm…both in mine and opponent’s team..
gotta love venom share…trolling braindead wars spamming hammer while immobilized all day long, when op zerker stance is on cd obviously…..next meta troll thief ftw
oh had 2 days ago a warrior on temple map – i knocked him down to can cap the buff
3 sec later he just apear there again and after i asked he said it was lag^^
yeah lol…too bad when someone is lagging he just stands still…not porting to buffs/freecap points for sure…wish i had those lags too instead of being roflstomped while skills not working and everyone seem to stop……
Ok last night again…spirit ranger teleporting (Yeah teleporting without portals or stuff) straight from base to our close, i was at kyhlo mid with guardian and he was dead on the ground, disappeared and got our close contested, so i had a look on who was contesting it and guess what? The ranger who just respawned already decapped our close…they had no mesmers…
As far as i know only thieves and mesmers have long range teleports…but i went across teleporting eles, warriors, rangers, guardians and necros in tpvp just popping up on points while they were losing teamfights somewhere else…no portals…nothing, just pop up there and that’s it…i know that you can’t write ign here but many seconds accounts are doing this…along with ppl running way faster than others with no swiftness or signet’s passives….and we also have no report options for this and you can’t just go tpvp recording everything all the time in order to get them, since screens are pointless for proving teleport or speed hacks..
It’s time for some gameguard style client monitoring third party programs running outside gw2 client sending reports and closing game client when something suspicious is detected…and maybe start banning too…we all know there are many teleport/speed hacks out here, just go on youtube and you’ll find many of them…so stop denying the evidence and do something already…and do it asap, or at least before ladder reset
Maybe I am a bad thief, (probably), but in sPVP, Mesmer’s were a difficult target for me to fight. I know there is more to spvp then 1v1 fights, but on the mesmer forum are two pvp videos of mesmer’s crushing backstab thieves with ease.
I made a mesmer because of this class giving me issues, and I enjoy playing it. There is so much about the mesmer that makes them passively strong. Whereas on my thief, I feel like if I make just one minor mistake, I typically end up eating the ground.
I main mesmer and when i play d/p other mesmers are not so hard to bring down (Talking bout shatter obviously) fighting mesmers it’s all about knowing how stuff works..if you’re used to them they are not a big problem…if focused mesmers go down…and go down pretty fast..but mesmers are not so good tier in tpvp atm…as i said above you’re more likely going to face heavy condition bunkers…and they MAY go down only if played really really bad and you play really good..otherwise you’re just wasting your time and eventually killing yourself
Fact is that condition cheese specs shouldn’t be so effective as they are atm…playing cond bunkers because you’re bad should lead to you being less effective than someone playing let’s say an high risk/reward d/p thief…but in this meta we’re nowere near to this, most easy to play specs are also the most effective ones giving bads the chance to play at the same level of someone with way more skills but without a fotm spec..this casual friendly mentality is leading pvp to doom more at every patch coming out…pvp must reward skills not specs..skilless builds must sit in the up tier otherwise bads will still match up vs good players and “good” players (Well those high ranks who just ride fotm can’t be called good after all) running braindead builds will be almost immortal vs other specs
Condition engis, condition wars, settler’s guardians with hammers and so on…if anet can’t understand that is way too easy going for cheesy cond dmg while running tanky specs compared to sacrifices needed tu run a power crit next meta is going to be condition bunker’s one…many already said it and we’re getting closer every day..
Here’s some delicious pie, pie chart that is. Guard is my main, always has and always will be. I tried every class at least once with the exception of thief. I just don’t like the play style at all.
Drop dat save yourselves and go for purging flames + low cons cd trait already…give it a try man, with save youselves necros with corrupt boon will kitten you up in no time
I’ve never been a fan of Consecrations. I don’t like being constricted to a certain area, and I don’t play bunker too often that’s why I say this. PoV + soldier runes are still good, and it’s also a stun breaker. Yeah SYS isn’t has good as the PvE/WvW version, but it’s still worth it if you run a shout build. Also Purging Flames isn’t that helpful if you don’t go up against a heavy condition players. On the other hand SYS is helpful in any situation.
Just my opinion some people love Consecrations.
Well keep in mind we’re into condition spam meta atm….and there’s almost always a necro spamming on the bunker guardian at midfight, sys it’s just like a big KILL ME sign over your head if he runs cb (And if he runs epidemic too is going to be a disaster)…still going shout but found out pf to be much better than just another shout possibly turning into a kittenload of conditions for you (And maybe your mates too) and on a long cd
It’s ok shutting pvp down like…20 minutes before patch? So everyone who’s already in tpvp can finish their last run…but taking it down for hours without even knowing when patch is coming? That’s bs..you don’t even know when to relog, had to leave a message on guild’s fb to tell me when it’s out since i go pvp only there’s no reason to wait for it sitting in the mists
Here’s some delicious pie, pie chart that is. Guard is my main, always has and always will be. I tried every class at least once with the exception of thief. I just don’t like the play style at all.
Drop dat save yourselves and go for purging flames + low cons cd trait already…give it a try man, with save youselves necros with corrupt boon will kitten you up in no time
Thief (Unload troll in hotjoin, not going tpvp atm, left it cause i didn’t want to play fotm s/d kitten) Mez and Guardian…tried ranger but deleted it…feels too dumb and not even fun to play, already have boring bunker guardian so no thanks…starting engi or ele soon (Just gave them a try but nothing serious, big fun with them but waiting for dec patch to chose one)
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