Guild Wars 2

Elementalist Swirling winds has no limit as far as I know.

Obsidian.1328:

This may sound crass, but can Cuddlestrike simply post the score update and not use it as an excuse for an Asuran runway expo? It reminds me of Toddlers and Tiara’s and it’s starting to make me sick.

All they ever wanted to do was love

Korbaal.6402:

covenn.7165:

Korbaal.6402:

Talk as much kitten as you like, The score tells a different story.

Scoreboard posturing went out of style months ago. Anyone with a clue knows that the weekly score is mostly due to who has the best 24-7 coverage.

Please insert another quarter and try again.

QQ’ing about coverage ‘again’. Ask yourself why? What self respecting guild would want to associate themselves with a server that insists on sending representitives like yourself and other goons from various guilds on here talking complete rubbish constantly?
And please lets not go down the posturing road shall we? 90% of the drivel you post is posturing. Dont get all defensive when sombody reciprocates your trashy comments and suggest that they ‘have no clue’. Its unwarranted. nobody buys into your sad propaganda.
And your current situation as far as coverage is concerned is testament to that.

Thank you and goodnight.

There’s a horrible place on blackgate reserved for people who agree with covenn, but I have to ask. What is the secret to JQ, or any of the other formerly number one NA server’s success, if not coverage?

jojojoon.8607:

Mike.3742:

Ardon.4105:

Rogi.8720:

jojojoon.8607:

Mike.3742:

I think all sea eu guilds should leave NA servers and go play with even numbers on a EU server. I wouldn’t hold it against you guys if you wanted to go enjoy real fights with dozens of strong guilds on a EU server.

So you guys don’t want OCX and AFS?

You are a fail troll lol. Please just stop posting on the forums. You make JQ look terrible.

jojo’s comment doesn’t really look like trolling to me. Seems more like a legitimate assumption based off of what mike said.

I’m not even on SOR and I don’t post enough for people to assume what server I’m on so assuming something and running with it like Forest Gump is grounds for being called a troll. I was talking in general for all NA servers. I get that a lot of JQ don’t want even matches. I’m sure there is a bunch of JQ that would welcome closer matches were the outcome is decided when NA prime is on. All three servers have strong guilds at that time and can play with the best of them and I would challenge anyone to show how one NA prime server will ppt at 500 for 6 hours? I also said I wouldn’t hold it against the sea and eu guilds. I know a lot would cry there faces off if they bailed like some people out there. I can understand how exciting it would be to go fight with even numbers and even competition. The fights they could have every night on a eu server would trump any they get now. One would think?

So you’re saying you’re on BG now?

He’s on blackgate, but that’s not the point. One of my posts seems to have been lost in this conversation.

Anyways, I just meant that saying all the SEA and Oceanic players would be having more fun in the EU bracket is a pretty big assumption to make. I mean, why are they all here if that was the case?

It’s quite silly for him to even ask that. Like you said, our EU and Oceanic/SEA guilds are a pretty big part of our servers. Asking for all these pillars of the community to just up and leave in the name of balance is a large request.

Rogi.8720:

jojojoon.8607:

Mike.3742:

I think all sea eu guilds should leave NA servers and go play with even numbers on a EU server. I wouldn’t hold it against you guys if you wanted to go enjoy real fights with dozens of strong guilds on a EU server.

So you guys don’t want OCX and AFS?

You are a fail troll lol. Please just stop posting on the forums. You make JQ look terrible.

jojo’s comment doesn’t really look like trolling to me. Seems more like a legitimate assumption based off of what mike said.

Had fun fighting SIN and AoS in EBG today. Props to you both from AAO.

Who exactly left other than AGG and FoE according to you guys?

Liquid.9672:

The same phenomenon was reported earlier in this thread against siege on a BG held Hills keep. The best theory that was briefly thrown out there was that it might be a bugged Mesmer skill.

I believe someone mentioned a bug involving the SAB that causes your camera to be zoomed out. That could also be the cause of the issue.

I’ve seen it a couple times from both servers, often hearing in teamspeak “How the hell is this AOE here?” And I’m sure you could find someone from blackgate doing it too if you looked. It’s unfortunate, but there’s not much you can do to stop it, except hope it gets fixed.

It’s hard enough to find these people, but stopping them from using their skills, or an arrow cart they’re already on, isn’t really feasible.

bigtankstarsp.3581:

Lol they are they are helping JQ win.. I have been in EB fighting off both JQ and EB for 45mins and neither can take valley from us… How sad is that? SoR pls just go to t2 so we can have a Decent fight thx…

You’ve been fighting off the Eternal Battlegrounds itself? That’s some meta stuff right there man.

Honestly though, the wheel of tier one forum hate has been stuck on 2v1 a bit too long now. I’m surprised it hasn’t gotten to hacking, gvg arguments, or coverage wars yet.

Liquid.9672:

JemL.3501:

Why SoR is getting points while JQ and BG losing in that millenium score…this glicko system was made for 1v1 not for this.

Because it’s based on expected score and rating entering the match. SoR is gaining because they’ve scored more points than they were expected to based on their rating against JQ and BG’s rating.

He’s right though, the glicko system wasn’t made for this.

Teamkiller.4315:

I am fine with this, and so are most of the people I know who do wvw. It’s really a very outspoken minority who want nerfs to zergs just for running with large numbers.

It’s probably just a outspoken minority because as far as I know in the NA bracket, tier one is the only tier that experiences the 70+ man zergs from all servers, on all maps, at least during american primetime. Of course there are a few exceptions among the servers, but none face the problem to the extent of tier 1.

Regardless, while I do feel it is a serious issue, OP’s suggested solution doesn’t seem like a very good idea. If I understand this correctly, what you suggest, while most likely succeeding in breaking up the mega zerg it would also slow down gameplay and inadvertently hurt small groups.

By their nature, small groups cannot sit in the same place holding onto a position, so forcing them to do so for 15 minutes, in addition to the PPT countdown, would effectively negate their ability to affect the scoreboard via captures.

Please explain further if I misunderstood your point.

Props to CD on SoR, SF and friends on JQ, from the EA roaming group. Thanks for the fun tonight.

Trikki.5803:

Israel.7056:

FractalChaos.6539:

This from a player on the server best known for stacking guilds to get into T1, only to fail miserably once there and then fall out of contention (and T1)? Twice so far, as I recall?

Your glass house, my friend; she’s gotta lotta cracks.

I don’t think we have failed miserably in t1 and we’re hardly out of contention this time. Last week wasn’t a bad performance and right now we’re not doing so bad either.

The time BG got to t1 before this I thought everyone on BG fought hard and tried their best. You can’t ask for more than that regardless of the outcome.

I would imagine that many on SoR would be pretty frustrated to see so many SoS guilds pass up the chance to join SoR’s “family” but you cannot begrudge an entire server of people just for being on a server where other people chose to transfer. Or maybe you can, your choice.

But you haven’t answered my question. You have instead engaged in a form of logical fallacy known as “poisoning the well.” BG’s performance history in t1 has nothing to do with SoR’s current plans for t1. You said there’s a super duper top secret SoR plan. I can’t imagine what it would be except to tank the match and play in t2.

Wouldn’t worry mate, we won’t have to deal with SoR much longer, they’re on the way dooooooooown. They’ll be replaced by a good adversary in Kaineng. Looking forward to having a T1 thread without all the jealousy.

To be honest, I can’t imagine Kaineng being very competitive in tier 1. There really aren’t any other tier 1 ready servers. Besides, haven’t people from Kaineng stated many times that they’re happy in tier 2?

Resonance.4216:

Peetee.9406:

Thesilentflute.8761:

Kaineng gave us a better fight in T2. I don’t think you guys belong here In T1. Shape up or ship out. Cause Kainengs coming up next to knock down your doors.

I’d be perfectly fine with this, can we switch places right now?

Heck, I’d love to see Kaineng up here, but Millenium says that next week it’s still Sanctum of Black Quarry T1.

While Kaineng has potential, they’d be obliterated if they moved up to tier 1 now. They have a gaping coverage gap in EU, and their NA is both outnumbered and inexperienced. For the health of their server, it’s probably best if they stay where they are for a while. Plus, from their comments, they seem to be pretty happy in tier 2, so there’s no reason to hasten an end to that.

Thiefz.3695:

So I’m going to throw this out as just a question to the three servers. Where do people think they find the best small group fights? For me, I had some great fights on Blackgate Borderlands between JQ and SoR spawn. It seems to happen on the BL’s more frequently than on EB. I think we focus too much on the PvD zerg.

Thoughts?

Couldn’t agree more, although I usually find my favorite fights on the eastern road, often in the no mans land between hills and all the northern territory. Being based on the western bay side of course.

Zerg island, between the two southern towers is also a pretty reliable spot to find fights, although you’ll have to watch out for its namesake.

Azaruil.3406:

jojojoon.8607:

I feel that SOR is playing similar to how SOS used to play which was to ball up in huge zergs to run through their opponents.

SoR has become zergier as it went up in tiers in order to compensate for the larger enemy zergs.

I only run in small-man groups and I can tell you that it is hard to find BG and JQ players that aren’t in zergballs or won’t run back to their zerg unless they have superior numbers. That is the nature of most people regardless of server.

I know it’s hard to find good fights being surrounded by such huge guilds on all three servers. What guild are you in? There are a couple of great roaming teams on BG that could keep an eye out for you guys.

Esoteric.5490:

Christos de Soufre.3802:

buki.3108:

Christos de Soufre.3802:

Missed you, SoR.<3

What armor are you wearing now? (So we can wave at you..!)

I’m not gonna make it easier for you to spot me :P

They already know what I look like

Luckily (or not?), you two look nearly the same.

Christos de Soufre.3802:

Can Kaineng, TC, and SoS all just give up for the rest of the week? I’d love to get to T1 this week rather than next. <3

We’re already in for tier 1, unfortunately.

Hunlerzfang.4386:

To the four black gate that were willing to duel me over and over in the Tarnished Coast borderlands and showed such honor in victory and defeat. Thank you for being amazing. I was the TC Dagger/Dagger Ele from the guild “What is this Nonsense” and would love to duel you again. You were an Asura warrior, a Human mesmer (Who kicked my kitten ) a Sylvari engineer and a Human warrior. Thank you so much for making my night and taking time to simply do awesome things in game. It’s people like you that make the game worth playing. All of my respect.
-Tiffy
/salute

If you are who I remember, thanks for the fights, and we’re down for more any time.

Liquid.9672:

alantsui.4906:

Kaineng was lost fun with BG, TC, these days, only few people were on WvW. my guild is biggest Guild in EB BL, but these 2 days, I only found some people on WvW. most of us in PVE. continue 3 weeks BG vs KEN vs TC, it was very boring thing. including me, every day COF and daily.

I’m curious, what has caused your guild to become bored with this matchup? I mean. it’s only been a bit over 2 weeks. Heck we fought SoR and IoJ/TC for 8 weeks straight.

To be fair, they spent a lot of weeks getting to fight a new opponent almost every match. So I guess they had a luxury we all forgot about months ago. I remember when the dust settled from the Titan Alliance disbandment people started complaining about having the same matches and them getting stale; it only being 3 or 4 weeks fighting the same servers. After being close to the same spot for 3 months, I guess we all got used to it.

Jahn.7019:

BG has gained 5 guilds thus far, and there are 4-5 others who are still considering moving over and all the small guilds who are friends of those guilds who run regularly with them.

In the end, BG will probably pick up between 7-10 SoS guilds and a lot of the smaller guilds.

They are definitely going to help you, be happy and JQ should be forewarned. But BG definitely has the better overall coverage over JQ now, especially since JQ’s weakness is oceanic and Euro and you’ve just destroyed that. The fight will come during asian and NA though, it will be interesting to see who comes out on top.

What guilds exactly? I only know of AGG, FoE, MERC and ND. Is there one more that has stated they’re coming here?

Kryyg.8576:

I think it’s fair to say BG is the new super server, you may have equal or greater coverage to JQ now NA, Oceanic and Asian time zone and you will have 2 ups on us with VOTF and HB for your Euro coverage.

I don’t hold it against you quite frankly, I play on JQ and I think we over-recruited to beat SoS, you’ve done the same to beat us, but that doesn’t mean you didn’t over-recruit. I mean basically SoS has now merged into BG.

I really don’t blame the players at all, it’s the system that is flawed.

Wait a second, I don’t think anyone has said where VoTF is going. And I’m pretty sure it’s not here. Also, I highly doubt we’re the new “super server”. We were weak last time we were in tier 1.

We played our hearts out but there’s no denying the coverage gaps. Four guilds joining us don’t make us a super server, but it might make us a competetive one. That’s to be seen when we come back to tier 1.

That said, while I don’t personally agree with the idea of sending multiple guilds to the same place to bounce back into tier 1, I understand they have the bests interests of their guilds in mind and wish them the best of luck here.

It’s broken, it’s not broken, doesn’t matter. Move on folks, back to the kittens and dolyaks please.

JudgeD.5673:

Really? At least I was found worthy of a /bow.

Oh I never pass up and opportunity to duel, especially against someone polite enough to start it with a bow. Such people also usually recognize a /no as someone being unwilling to fight.

If that fails, running into the water is probably the easiest way to get rid of a thief. They don’t like it down there.

JudgeD.5673:

To the BG thief at KN Bay earlier: No, I did not want a duel but put up a fight anyway cause you went for me. I wish there was some way to refuse these sorts of things…

/no and run like hell! The water is your friend.

SlasherX.5198:

hyyangoz.6195:

BG did you like the way we took SM off your hands?

congrats you notice that you always get things during our dead prime time no resistance at all..

Shh, one could say the same about how we get our points. Everyone has gaps, nothing to get all worked up about.

Waffle.3748:

Curious as to how BG got the trebs on that tower at kain keep in EB.

I’m not sure if you mean how it was put there or how to take them down. There’s a bit of a mini jumping puzzle to get up there, then a mesmer can just port people back and forth. As to how to take them down, there are a number of ways, all kinds of siege or a elementalist that’s part of the way up for example.

Sanctum of Rall would probably be your best bet.

We may be getting new guilds, but we’re no where close to SoS’s rating. I think we still have at least two weeks left in tier 2. Maybe longer if Kaineng pulls some more awesome pushes like they did last night to keep the score close.

Thresher.3049:

ArrowInKnee.4369:

This thread is like kittens and rainbows compared to the T1 thread…
I am so jealous of ya’lls thread :p

Well, to be fair T1 servers these days are pretty much overrun by aggregations of everyone else’s weak-sauce players who couldn’t be any good in a lower tier, cutting and running to those ones hoping their algae-like brains will absorb some skills, class and tactics through osmosis or something.
No offense to the OG-server players there… if anything you have my sympathy as even on the other side and I know quite a few of you are actually fairly nice human beings! But they’re vastly different now and not in a great way either.

As much as I hate being randomly lol-zerged by 50 Warmachine as some solo necro speedbump running to get supply, I do give them a lot of credit for having the sheer balls to simply NOT take the easy way of transferring to another equivalent high tier server, like pretty much every other guild did and make something of a server which was essentially nothing.

Aside from that, I hate them because they don’t actually fall for a lot of tricks we used to play on our T1 and other T2 opponents… like the ‘lol there’s only 10 guys in that tower with no walls, charge!’ trick and the somewhat infamous KnT/AAO Benny Hill-eske, zerg kiting antics around pieces of terrain in one direction until everything behind you is dead and everything else in front of you, hasn’t seen you yet because they’re still technically chasing you trick.

They dont fall for that like the other suckers

Shh, its much more fun if they learn not to fall for it the hard way .

Magiofdeath.2745:

Really BG/HB? Just trying to get some map completion done before match resets and you 5v1’ed me. Sigh. Why was that necessary? >< I was the necro you just ganked btw. Ahh well. Hope you got good loot out of my bag.

Could say the same for RET, we were just having a tea party in pangloss and they had to run in and smash everything! All of our expensive siege toys and the priceless antique golems! Gone…

ninjambo.3784:

And btw for all the TC bragging about score no one cares on FA anymore we put up a fight but right now we are focusing on getting the server more organized and ready for the future. Today for RET was jus killing dolyaks and having some fun in spvp.

I don’t think anyone from any server is actually looking at the score panel in these “Score updates”. We could probably just start posting the screenshots without them.

Rested Fox.2560:

fishergrip.4082:

BG has already been in T1 a couple of times and failed to keep its position there. BG has placed 3rd in T1 every week it has been there except for maybe 1 week a long time ago. I’d say the system is working as intended.

so placing third means a faction should move down? i agree.

logically then….

placing first should also mean a faction moves up.

currently the only method for moving up from t2 to t1 is a blowout of some sort in t1 or t2. this only happened because player transfers were free.

take a look at SoR. we consistently beat them. yet they are solidly in t1 because they happened to be in the right spot when SBI imploded and SoR earned a tonne of rating from them. the TRUE ranking could be argued to currently be JQ first then BG then SoR. but we’ll never see that because we’ll never get out of t2.

if you think BG doesnt deserve some time in t1, then neither does SoR, and youve got a problem because t1 matchup needs 3 factions.

As someone who is on Blackgate, I think you have the wrong idea. We’ve had some time in tier 1, maybe not as much as anyone would prefer, but it’s time none the less. SoR may have gotten their faster than we did because SBI wasn’t pulling a lot of weight, but they’re staying because they’re stronger than when we fought them and kept the scores close. Kudos to them, they deserve it.

Yes, the math makes little sense some times and yes it should change, but as of now, we’ll only deserve to be in tier one after we go through Kaineng and Tarnished coast to get there.

OutspokenAardvark.9781:

JaredKincade.9761:

Flawed Victory.4321:

DivineBeing.2086:

Flawed Victory.4321:

DivineBeing.2086:

That’s just it. We have improved. I am noticing some much better organization from ALL of the guilds. Many of them have started really learning from each other by creating specific roles and builds to compliment the entire zerg.

Here is the facts though. SoR was vsing TC and SBI. SBI is a dead server. So SoR, with there new and improved night crew, completely stomped TC (who has NO night crew) into the ground.

We are fighting FA and TC right now. TC did get some transfers but that’s not a big deal. The huge difference in this match up is that FA received 90% of the IoJ night crew, if not all of them. IoJ was ridiculous in the oceanic timezone. FA has always been pretty good in NA prime time, so adding a night crew makes them a force.

This means our night crew isn’t able to reach the 600 PPT it did last time we were matched up against SoR and TC (both didn’t have any night crews). And by the time we logged in, all our keeps, along with some enemy ones, were fully upgraded. So it was a matter of holding as much as you can.

I don’t agree with that. better organization? really? you lost your garrison, just. without anyone noticing i bet. it happened before, and it is still happening now.

Expecting us to never lose a tower/keep is unrealistic expectations, especially considering the dynamics of your opponents. We aren’t the only ones who can improve, other servers can too.

Anyways, you obviously have your mind completely set on this notion so any discussion to convince you otherwise is futile and a waste of time. So, this will end here.

Anyways, score update please? I like to keep track of the scores throughout the day to see how our crew is doing in each timezone.

Thanks!

Will end. Just want you to know, try to accept others opinions and don’t shut your door tight. Being content with current situation never get you further.
I did mention TC and FA are stronger. They improved and are improving. They have upgoing learning curve but BG’s just seems to be flat. I assume you understand the word parallel. I understand what you’re trying to say. But please just chill and think from every angle.

How can you possibly say our learning curve is flat, you’ve played us for one week. Lets have this discussion after 8 weeks of play hmm? You don’t have the slightest frame of reference here to form an opinion.

You cannot compare SORs point gap with BGs in tier 2 because they were fighting one opponent, and neither opponent had oceanic coverage, FA does.

You are trying to make conclusions based on unreliable facts. Just like I can’t say how much FA has improved since last week. I do know, its been fun playing against two servers put together (Isle of Aspenwood), plus TC.

I believe all three of you who are arguing are from BG.

Person 1: My server is better than your server!
Person 2: No, MY server is better than YOUR server!
Person 3: Oh yeah, well Blackgate is better than all of your servers!
Person 1 and 2: Wait, I’m on Blackgate.

JaredKincade.9761:

wombat.6123:

BG: Whenever we break into a keep to take it back from TC you guys seem to appear out of nowhere.

It’s like our wall breaches are a magical portal that summons Blackgate invaders to the party. It’s funny how we take something back from TC and end up sweeping for BG mesmers.

Welcome to fighting against a Tier 1 server :P

I’m surprised no one ever coined the term backdoorgate, our name is so exploitable.

But hey, it happens to the best of us. An open door might as well be an invitation right?

Thet.7153:

Kysin.6349:

So this is what a thread looks like without SoS/SoR/SBI/JQ, ahhhh refreshing. I missed you TC and I am glad we are back. FA, welcome to the party much love from BG.

I don’t know what your experience with SBI was like in T1, but when TC faced their depleted server recently, they were nothing but class on the forums. I like those guys.

It’s possible the unpleasant ones migrated, or became humble in defeat. You can look through some of the old threads if you’d like, they all start well enough, but devolve into hate and bickering soon enough.

But hey, they’re cool now, that’s all that matters right?

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One thing I’ve noticed from FA is that a lot of them seem to be running some pretty scary damage builds. That, when in the right position, they can nuke just about anyone, but when caught unawares or in the open field, things tend to take a turn for the worse. A human ballista if you will.

All servers have to adapt while moving up tiers, as naturally the higher one goes in the tiers, the more heated it becomes, and the faster the meta advances. We experienced a similar thing going into tier 1, our customary style of play being rather detrimental to our lives. If given the opportunity from the rating system, FA too will adapt in time

Doomdesire.9365:

ComeAndSee.1356:

Honestly I think something is screwed up on JQ right now.

Since the reset I’ve been sitting in queue for literally 1 1/2 hours a map and when I get in there we have 40 players MAX on the entire map and it’s like we’re outmanned.

Are you guys on SoS and SoR having this problem?

SoR is for sure, at least on EB.

It’s happening to lots of servers in many tiers, both NA and EU. Servers are reporting different player caps for different maps, widely varying queue times, etc. The whole thing is borked.

sceptus.9415:

I think there are some significant bugs with the queue and number of players right now. We have folks in queue for EB but the people inside say there isn’t anyone there. Strange goings on.

I think it’s happening to everyone.

So…what’s going on with the queues? Entire guilds aren’t getting into the maps and the largest group most maps have is around 25.

Tarnished coast has always been one of my favorite opponents. Best attitude of any server I’ve had the pleasure of fighting. Hopefully the last few weeks with SoR hasn’t changed anything. Good luck to everyone, especially SoR in tier 1.

The new SoR has yet to be tested against equal competition. We’ll see how they do next week. Unfortunately due to the rating reset, their time in the spot light will likely be cut short.

split.3659:

SoS and JQ:
Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to push BG out of T1. If you choose to accept this mission, you may be accused of double teaming. You will have to play nicely with those you call the enemy. But in the end, you will have the satisfaction of pushing BG out of T1 and facing a truly worthy opponent. SoR wants our taste of T1.

This message will not self destruct in 30 seconds.

While I agree SoR deserves a shot at tier one, I think BG has more than earned their place here. We had to wait over two months to get in, can’t we have a few more weeks of fun?

GekoHayate.2451:

Ohai.8346:

Still not sure why you moved to JQ if you guys truly love the fight, as most of the pop in that timezone is on JQ. Its almost like you chose to pvdoor and fight HB.
If its fights you were after, youd have either moved to sos or somewhere to go fight war machine.

Yes to find fights struggle to fit your guild on the most stacked server. Definitely dont go to the red team in T1, they never get any fights.

Sarcasm mode off.

Considering the fact that HB is on Blackgate, and from what I’ve seen, RG really wanted to fight HB, transferring to BG would be rather counter intuitive would it not?

I’m sure this thread is already dangerously close to getting locked. Can we tone it down a bit?

Unless SoR get’s transfers, they’ll have a rougher time in tier 1 than we did. If we could put them under 50 ppt every night, I can’t imagine what JQ/SoS night crews would do to them.

They have the potential though, just need a little help in the late night-mid morning timeslot.

Can we go back to pointlessly arguing about coverage? Pointlessly arguing about 2v1ing has been done to death. I think the tier 1 thread has been through the pointless culling argument already. Maybe we could come up with something new and equally useless to argue about.

I would suggest we all be nice to each other, but this thread would get rather dull if that were the case. Oh well, carry on I suppose.

Thobek.1730:

Tobias Steele.2071:

Players repping PRX have been spotted fighting for Blackgate. Will be interesting to see the status Quo change if they were to Transfer to Blackgate from Seafarers Rest. From a Sos Perspective I sincerely hope that’s not the case.

It is the case, my flatmate plays for them. BG will be their new home. Wasn’t 100% they would pick BG until I saw a few of them playing for BG last night. So our once comrades have turned against us, let us make them feel welcome in the BL’s

It will probably even out the fight a little more, and I get a chance to kill my flatmate on the field

They will do what they always do, play for a server for a few weeks then leave.

Those people were scouts as far as I know. And “my friend told me so” isn’t exactly great evidence. I’d wait for an official announcement before anything. Personally I’m not entirely sure why’d they pick Blackgate, not that I’d complain if they did.

Now everyone’s zerged up in their corner and all defensive.