Guild Wars 2

Sol.4310:

Great idea, I main ranger so I know we can res allot. Some times I’ll go down res myself then go down again res myself then go down again res myself all in 1min.

So adding timer would really improve.

Pretty much this, although remember that your health is reduced if you go into downed state a bunch of times within a short period of time. I PvE occasionally, so I know what it’s like to get downed, rally, get downed, rally, and continue the process until suddenly I just die instantly upon hitting 0 health.

Still, I don’t see why playing badly should be rewarded with points.

Communicate with your team. Always the best thing to do.

Also, ping the map, draw on it, and make personal waypoints.

Any other tips depend on your class.

They are. I know this because I was at the top of the board.

Eventually their records will flatten out, if they continue to play.

I dunno about the warning stuff, but the slow loading has been happening to a bunch of other people as well. Seems to only happen on LotF.

As the others have said, there’s really no generalization of this concept. It really depends on your comp and the enemy comp.

This actually happened to me a few times. Mostly on LotF.

It’s especially bad when I’m going to change my amulet during the 10 seconds before a game, and suddenly spend the first 15 seconds of the game on the loading screen. Of course, after that point, there’s no more swapping ammies for me.

Awe.1096:

Dear thieves. I really really really dont want to hate you. Please show me how. Explain me the math behind this. I am sad

Well that’s my speciality.

I’ll need your stats first though.

I feel like somebody’s going to make a stupid “maek meh a sammich” joke here…

Aiden’s a pretty good ele, I’d definitely look into making a team with him.

He’s also a pain in the kitten to kill.

Romek.4201:

hi

Dont know any US team but is ostricheggs playing? When yes which team?

I don’t think so sadly.

GL to all teams!

Hope the age limit is removed/lowered so that I can play in the future.

I wish I could play. GL to those who are though.

Still undecided whether I’ll be supporting EU or NA for PAX, depends on who wins the NA tournament.

Simplicity.7208:

Hmmm, that’s one I never considered; a second weapon set. I’ve always done D/P & SB for mobility, but mobility is never an issue, so it probably would be wise to swap it out for something. I initially only used D/P to get used to it, but now that I’m quite adept at using it, I should definitely get a second weapon. Also, with the black powder thing “keep it between him & you”…That means you can’t hit him either, because dagger range/sword range is not great enough to reach him, in which case he has the advantage since warriors can just stall out the black powder’s duration all the while gaining some 800 hp/second from regeneration. I still don’t see how black powder is a good idea unless you use it directly on top of the warrior, but I can never get that close without getting chain stunned.

Yes, yes, I know what you mean; the comment was only a little interesting fact for you to consider, just to help show a lack of absolutes. However, my other comments, and those of the others here, should be quite enough to help you, I’d hope. c:

Simplicity

Don’t say black powder because good warriors know that the range on their attacks is slightly more than the radius of black powder so they can avoid the blind entirely all while continuing to apply their constant stuns.

Radius, not diameter. c:

Just BP → stand near the back of circle → use range to your advantage.

Also, range in general and evading important attacks are both good ways to counter warrs.

Wait, what about my 10/0/0/30/30 build?

I’m sure Jumper’s pretty sad too.

I’ll agree with Oxy on this one, except for perhaps the part about fire sigil. If you’re competent enough, you’ll probably want to get Air Sigil for the single-target burst. It does very slightly more than twice the damage per individual target that Fire Sigil does, and scales slightly better. Unless you’re going to be in a tightly packed area with lots of enemies all the time, Air Sigil will definitely serve you better, especially since you’re a single-target burster. But experiment, it’s your choice.

I’ll also mention that Air Sigil has a 1.1 coefficient on power over Fire’s 1, but that’s only for a single target, remember.

Azure.8670:

I use all different builds, I always switch it around. I tried this famous 0/20/30/20/ lately and im not doing enough damage to kill a warrior, they regen it right back. I was doing fine with daggers going 10/30/30… well for the most part, but i prefer sword over dagger in main hand. The Warrior that gave me the high level beat down use axe/mace Hammer. I could do NOTHING against this guy oddly. I broke out my mesmer and almost downed him twice but he came back with a vengeance. I dont know, im def doing something wrong but with S/D I feel so weak not using 10/30/30, but I feel stealth isnt optimal for a Sword build

No. No it isn’t.

Especially if you’re running PVT gear. You don’t need that extra toughness to boost you up.

So, since you’re running S/D, I’d suggest one of the following builds:

Jumper’s Build. I personally disagree with it (and have gotten a heck of a lot of hate for it), but it’s the build most people would suggest to you, and since I’d rather come across unbiased against this build, I feel that I must suggest it to you.

This is my S/D build. It comes in two flavors, the equivalent of the “vanilla” flavor (soldier’s amulet w/ zerker jewel), or the “strawberry” flavor (zerker amulet w/ zerker jewel). You can try both of them out, they both work well, albeit for different situations. Personally, I’m a strong believer in the idea that the regular build is the stronger one overall, but for certain situations the zerker build is going to be stronger.

So try both of those out. You can always take variations on them as well. For example, Jumper’s build can be turned from 0/30/0/30/10 to the fairly common variant of 10/30/0/30/0. I’ve also seen builds like 0/30/0/25/15, and so forth. As for my build, you can try all different kinds of utility combinations and see how you like them. If you’re shooting for what’s popular, Jumper’s is obviously going to be the more well-known one, although whether or not his build is well-known for good reasons… Well, that depends on who you talk to.

If you’re going for a dual S/D build, Jumper’s build is the way to go. If you’re going for an S/D, SB build, I would suggest trying out my build.

Anyways, try out these builds in sPvP and see how you like them. If you want to know the WvW variations on them, then just ask for them and I’ll give them to you as soon as possible.

Azure.8670:

both WVW and PVP. PVP wasnt as bad as WVW

Well, I can certainly help you fairly easily with sPvP.

It’d be easier if I knew your build, but, aside from that, some standard tips:

- Have high initiative regeneration. Warriors can hit like a truck if you aren’t careful, so you’ll want to be using FS often. Also, since a lot of them carry some very nice boons, LS is something that you absolutely have to land.

- Dat Eviscerate. Evade it and you’ll be okay. ’Nuff said.

- Run a lot of stunbreakers. For example, all of my utilities are stun breakers (Infi Signet, Shadowstep, and Roll for Init). Of course, you don’t have to go that far, but you get the idea. Getting stunned for 2-3 seconds can be extremely ugly if you don’t respond fast to get out of the situation.

- Shortbow is an absolutely godly weapon to have on you, provided that you stay at a far enough range from the warrior to avoid melee damage at all times. Otherwise, just spam 1 and CB while allowing your initiative to regenerate, and once it has regenerated to a significant level, swap back to sword and beat the living hell out of that warrior.

- Be careful with your steal. It’s extremely powerful, but you don’t want to just be standing there and allowing yourself to get stunned and then blown to pieces. I do believe, however, that you can evade without interrupting the action, so evade often to be able to catch up with warriors trying to run away from your whirling tornado of death or to evade warriors who are planning some nasty stuns. Also, while using the steal, try to stay at your opponent’s side or back as long as physically possible.

- Try to put down a good Shadow Return far away from your opponent early and often. If your duel gets too close to the SR, just start backing away from it, and drawing the warrior away from the point.

So yeah, that’s some basic advice for you. Hope it helps!

Wait, I’m confused. This is sPvP, right?

Yeah, it was probably a mix of factors, possibly including:
-Tanky thief
-One bar of adrenaline for Eviscerate
-Weakness
-Bad luck (lower random weapon coefficient than average)

vrilek.4038:

Jealousy.. Maybe something more?

Yep, you guys got me now. I was hoping to keep it a secret, but I guess the secret’s out now.

What I’m wondering is, why would a player post a video like this if he/she didn’t want to show off their skill? It obviously wasn’t a tutorial, and it wouldn’t make sense if it was anyways, due to the guide that’s out there anyways.

And this isn’t the first video I’ve commented on it the past, showing off some build or playstyle. I’ve commented on videos ranging from anywhere between 0/20/30/20 WvW D/P builds to ones like this.

Bovinity.8610:

Honestly, Arg.

Just because your thread wasn’t as well-received as you would have liked doesn’t mean you need to go off on people for using a build that you seem to think you have some E-Rivalry with. =/

What upsets me is that this video is passed for being “skill”. I’ve even spoken to one player in-game before who thought he was extremely skilled, and said that he played with “top players”. When I asked whom he was talking about, he mentioned Coloxeus here.

It’s not just the build that upsets me, but the fact that some people will go to the extent of calling this kind of play “skillful”, when all it is is a poorly played version of a build that everybody’s copied from the internet, and suddenly they all think they’re pros for it. On the other hand, I’ve seen thieves that many people have never even heard of, that have perfected their playstyles so much that they should easily be in a team in the top 1k, but aren’t because of silly little things like “rank”, or delusions about their builds being “subpar” when they’re actually completely and utterly brilliant.

It’s little things like this that really put me off.

Jesus kitten Christ, this is what people call “skill” these days?

So, first of all, before we do anything else, remember that this is in hotjoin, not tPvP (which, if you couldn’t tell, is able to be seen by the number of people in the game.

0:12: Lays down a Shadow Refuge while the entire enemy team walks right past it. One warrior sees it, runs up and bashes him with her axe, and instead of thinking “OMG my chain just went to the second skill, somebody’s hiding there!” she just runs off to join her similarly stupid friends. Kill steal was pretty expectable at this point.

0:25: Randomly lays down a Shadow Return. Would have expected it to be used to condi cleanse or perhaps juke out opponents, but no, it was just randomly used.

0:38: Uhhhhhhhh…

1:18: Wastes a Shadow Refuge to stomp an opponent who was probably going to be screwed over anyways, and of course the engi rez’s either way. If nothing else, a CnD would have sufficed anyways.

1:27: CnD’s with Revealed still on… Nice.

1:32: Yeah, I have no idea if the game was just bugging out or his targeting sucked.

1:38: Finally uses CnD successfully on a downed opponent…! Damage kills him.

2:27: DAT CAMERA WUT

2:35: for the first time in the entire match, successfully stealth stomps a player using CnD.

2:42: “Unlucky”. Well, first of all, this is a relatively well-known bug that happens with pretty much all teleports. For example, go to the cannon area on Capricorn, then go to the lower level and try to Infi Strike an opponent on the platform above you. Sometimes it works, but today, after doing the same thing over and over and over again, if didn’t. Either way, why the kitten would you blow an infi signet just like that? Just another reason to use a Shortbow.

3:00: LOL. Teh skilz r strong in dis 1

And so on.

Don’t get me wrong, you’re not a bad player, per se… I’ve seen players echelons below you, who sucked so badly that they would have been better off just throwing Dancing Dagger for the entire game. But this build… This video is a perfect example of why it sucks. A lot. Hell, you could do the same damage with my 10/0/0/30/30 build with Zerker amulet easily, and with the same survivability, but you would probably play infinitely better than you did here. Even I with my standard build (10/0/0/30/30 w/ Soldier’s Amulet), which, supposedly, “doesn’t kill anything”, would have been far better off than you were in this video.

I’m glad that people copy other people’s builds off the internet and then call themselves champions, though. Heck, you even looked exactly like Jumper (or, at least, how he used to look; don’t know if anything’s changed).

I’m a firm believer in the idea that every class and build has a counter, and this is no different.

I hate the phrase, but really, L2P.

Ghostwolf.9863:

Fortus.6175:

How in the world is…………

12.5k health Staff Elementalist. Free kill.

I edited it for more accuracy.

Bovinity.8610:

There are constructive threads in the thief forum? All I ever see is, “WAAAH STEALTH”

I’m pretty sure guard is best for countering pure DPS, but engi might be better overall against both condi spam and DPS. The main difference is that one of them has a higher base health pool, while the other has a higher base armor.

I think for guard, the basic bunker build is 0/5/30/30/5, but I’m not quite sure. Not really sure for engineer.

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nnnnnnomek.4201:

rly good playerz like Teldo, Mogmow, Jumper, Phantaram and so onn can carry there teams

No one player can play on three points at once, and be there to help at every other engagement at every other point on the map.

It’s good to have good players on your team, but there comes a point where they can’t make up for the failures of four other players.

Just give me your stats, and I can tell you how it happened and how you can counter it.

I don’t think a team full of bunkers will be at the top of the Leaderboards. GC’s rip them to pieces, simply because of the fact that power has a much more significant effect on amplification relative to base stats than does any defensive stat.

Build? Gear? That way we can help you out better.

Somebody recruit this guy, he’s a fantastic play, and was in the top 1000 last time I checked.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying you’re a bad player or anything, but unless you have really strong credentials behind you, you’ll usually want to wait until r30 before applying for a team. In your case, since you obviously already have experience, you could probably apply at r25, +/- 2 ranks.

Trust me, rank is an awful way of measuring skill (r27 here), but unfortunately that’s the thought process of most teams.

I’ll help you with this when I get home, but until then, could you show us what armor/etc you have?

JonPeters.5630:

Look at that! https://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/releases/august-06-2013/

:)

Which says

PvP Solo Queue
Solo Arena matches allow you to get right into the action of PvP matches in a competitive environment without gathering a full team or finding yourself fighting against a pre-formed group. Solo Arena has its own leaderboard so players can earn rank without affecting their Team Arena standings.

Now, I don’t know about you guys, but I’m incredibly happy about this. SoloQ needed to be separated from Team queuing for a long time, and we finally got the change we wanted. Personally, I think that this is going to be a better indicator of how good a player is, not how good his/her team is. It’s also going to be a lot easier to just go join Solo Queue, without having to worry about ratings dropping off a cliff.

Ty Anetttttt <3

JonPeters.5630:

Look at that! https://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/releases/august-06-2013/

:)

Marry me. Please.

To those whom I insulted unnecessarily: I am sincerely sorry for my actions.

To those who insulted me unnecessarily: Not so much.

To Jumper: Was it really necessary to come and try to ruin this thread? Heck, at least I gave you the liberty of my own not going to your thread to do the same thing.

Anyways, I’m finished with this thread. If people want to PM me with questions, I will be happy to answer them, but otherwise, my commenting will be left out of this thread for the remainder of its lifetime.

Oxygen.5918:

When upset, proceed to mad hominem.

Oxygen.5918:

“My build finally explained”. Yeah, finally! As if anyone had been waiting for that. As if anyone “owned” builds.

The level of pompous, gratuitous and foundationless self-glorification displayed by Arganthium here is off the charts. Why this thread is given any attention at all is beyond me, though calling out a better, actually known, player may be quite the original way of finding a brief spotlight.

Technobabble. This is how I’d qualify this entire… thing. Lots for words, lots of veiling pseudo-maths, lots of unfounded assumptions. How does it feel to hit like a wet noodle, by the way?

I mean, the guy runs sigil of air without any critical hit chance for crying outloud. Oh, but oxy, I have like 15% lol! Snap, you got me.

Indeed.

bobross.5034:

Why are you tossing that around as an insult to a guy who is a guild leader on the 3rd ranked server. They are not just “zergy” they are also coordinated and generally good sports (having recently lost to them on TC – which I guess is also a “zergy” server). The guy came on here with a silly little joke, which I thought was well placed and funny, to try to lighten the mood.

Rather than just laugh it off, you go on the attack again. See the difference? Guild leader vs kicked off a pvp team…it’s becoming obvious that it probably has to do with the fact that you can’t take a bit of constructive criticism or even a joke.

Really guy, relax…it’s a game. It should make you happy. People might disagree, and they might tease, but it’s just a game!

I might’ve agreed with you, but after his first comment

Oxygen.5918:

“My build finally explained”. Yeah, finally! As if anyone had been waiting for that. As if anyone “owned” builds.

The level of pompous, gratuitous and foundationless self-glorification displayed by Arganthium here is off the charts. Why this thread is given any attention at all is beyond me, though calling out a better, actually known, player may be quite the original way of finding a brief spotlight.

Technobabble. This is how I’d qualify this entire… thing. Lots for words, lots of veiling pseudo-maths, lots of unfounded assumptions. How does it feel to hit like a wet noodle, by the way?

I mean, the guy runs sigil of air without any critical hit chance for crying outloud. Oh, but oxy, I have like 15% lol! Snap, you got me.

His tone didn’t come across to me as “constructive criticism”, or even as a joke.

Bovinity.8610:

WvW hero on the zergiest server in the game

(looks at BG and SoR)

…ookayyyy….

(Slowly backs away)

From what I’ve heard, JQ is the zergiest with the other two being almost as/equally zergy.

But maybe times have changed since I played WvW.

Who are you, anyways, Oxygen? I’ve never heard of you, and judging by the fact that you seem to be some kind of WvW hero on the zergiest server in the game, I’m not sure that anything you say actually has some kind of relevance to reality.

Furthermore, you’re making false analogies to try and display some kind of point, and, by the looks of it, to boost your own sad little ego.

Oxygen.5918:

I think that this build has more potential than Jumper’s, in the same way that the planet Jupiter has more potential than Terra because it weighs more.

Math is everything… right?

This made me lol. Thanks for being so pathetic.

Anvil Rock.
/thread

Btw about Cruuk’s build… Hidden Killer has always been an absolutely fascinating trait for me, on so many different levels. That he runs it may give his build a lot of legitimacy as what you’re looking for.

Here ya go.

http://intothemists.com/guides/293-sd_heavy_boonsteal_harassment_thief_by_arga

I don’t know about Cruuk’s build, given that he runs zerker amulet, stealth, etc, but he is a good player. Just try out whichever build you prefer.

PS: no, I am not looking to be on the 5-man team. No, I am not looking for money. I just want to help contribute to some team’s performance in PAX.

Bovinity.8610:

What bothers me about the whole, “Do more damage by living longer” theory is that you’re sort of watering down your role, it would seem. I suppose that’s what Jumper was getting at with the Tryndamere reference, I dunno. If you’re playing in a role where you’re supposed to be pressuring/downing people, it’s not really your job to also try to be “tanky”.

You’re stealing from your primary role to attempt to fulfill another…which might also be what he meant with the “5v5, not 1v5” reference…your job is to fulfill a certain role on the team, not be a jack-of-all-trades sort that might perform well overall on your own, but doesn’t do what the team needs. If you’re the starting quarterback, people expect you to train for that role, not spend half your time bulking up so you can be a decent linebacker as well. (I really know nothing about football, someone will pick my analogy apart, I’m sure.)

That said, I haven’t tried the build at all. I’m really just commenting on the logic behind your comments and those of Jumper.

The issue is that tanking and pressuring/downing people do not at all have to be different goals. In fact, if anything, the two tend to coincide more often than not.

JonPeters.5630:

<tease> I think you guys will be waiting less time than most of you think. </tease>

:D

Hey guys,

Arga from the thief community here. In case you didn’t know, I’m a bit of a math geek, so I’ve created a whole load of mathematical models to assist in GW2 build crafting. I can’t actually play in PAX myself, but if there are any teams that are playing, perhaps you’d be interested in looking at some of the things I may have to offer to your team (outside of just thief advice, of course). There’s no obligation for anybody to take my advice into the tournament either, but I do think that the more unique perspective might be nice for your team to help improve its performance.

Anywho, if you’re interested, just PM me.

~Arganthium

Hawke.6943:

JonPeters.5630:

Hopefully this is just the humble beginning with lots more to come for GW2 sPvP.
Jon

We’re holding onto that JonPeters. Hope we have bigger lan tournies coming up.

We had a fantastic time playing the preliminaries, and we are going to be here for the next one.
Good job all.

p.s. gw2 twitch chat is the best ^^

Haha xD this is so true