Guild Wars 2

Lux.7169:

Goes to watch Thievs vs Guardians

I’ve already watched it 4 or 5 times now.

Narcarsis.5739:

Arganthium.5638:

Caed is extremely dynamic; he borrows from the short-term elements of a fight to create a long-term advantage. He uses specific combos at the correct time to wedge a large advantageous gap in his opponents. He has his cooldowns, positioning, and mobility mastered so that, in the long run, he can hurt the enemy team and reduce their health pools greatly. My main issue with his playstyle is that, while dynamic, he actually, contrary to what you said, doesn’t seem to take enough advantage of static advantages. That’s why I run builds that tend to look something like 0/0/X/X/X (although my current build doesn’t reflect this pattern; their’s 10 in DA, but none in CS). My playstyle focuses on abusing dynamic advantages to create long-term static advantages. Caed’s playstyle focuses on using dynamic advantages to create more dynamic advantages, and that’s where I think that his playstyle ultimately falters. He can’t use a small advantage to destroy opponents; he has to use large ones. Of course, large advantages are better than smaller ones, but smaller ones tend to be more safely secured and, in the long run, still have the same effect that larger advantages have. Furthermore, Caed’s very dynamic play allows him to create very large advantages very quickly, but at the cost of allowing his enemies to do the same to him.

That’s not to say that dynamic play isn’t important; it is, and in order to gain static advantages, you need to abuse dynamic opportunities. If anything, Caed is far too dynamic and not static enough.

Always looking for criticism. Thank you.

For once in my life, I am conflicted between understanding whether something that I just read is sarcasm or is actually sincere.

Assuming it’s sincere, no problem. But that’s just my point of view. It’s also probably a bit restricted by my addiction to chess, which has certainly had a large impact on how I view strategy and tactics.

Bas.7406:

Arganthium.5638:

Bas.7406:

I am pondering if we should just start a Practice Squad Guild [LFG] and put teams together on that group based on available practice times than set them up to scrim with teams then if they want to play together they can form their own guild and we continue from there!

I would definitely join this.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Practice-Squad-LFG-Do-you-need-a-team/first#post2028317

sign up ;P

just did

IGN: Arctu Spackle Yarba
Main Profession: Thief
Alternate Professions: Mesmer
Account name: Arganthium.5638
Practice Availablity: Every day (best on weekends though), 3-5, MST
Current PvP rank (Not Leaderboard): 14 (used to be a big WvW player, have since moved to PvP, so my rank is still rather low. I have clocked far over 300 hours on my thief, though, the last time I checked)
Level of Desire: Tournament play
NA or EU: NA

Bas.7406:

I am pondering if we should just start a Practice Squad Guild [LFG] and put teams together on that group based on available practice times than set them up to scrim with teams then if they want to play together they can form their own guild and we continue from there!

I would definitely join this.

mursie.3681:

Arganthium.5638:

Hot Boy.7138:

(i forgot to quote you when replying to this Arganthium)

I wanted to properly reply to what you said but I guess I went in a different direction. I wouldn’t call it a tragic story, i don’t take these things seriously. I was just surprised to see his name being listed as one of the best thieves. Well, even though Caed’s burst is definitely insane, I wouldn’t consider him someone playing at a high skill level because his playstyle seemed static to me. In my opinion being dynamic is important in pvp. I respect everyone’s build, whether it be glass canon all burst or bunker; so even though I respect his build, I wouldn’t call him one of the best thieves in the game because he seemed very predictable. Knowing a burst combo isn’t the same to me as being incredibly skilled.

Caed is extremely dynamic; he borrows from the short-term elements of a fight to create a long-term advantage. He uses specific combos at the correct time to wedge a large advantageous gap in his opponents. He has his cooldowns, positioning, and mobility mastered so that, in the long run, he can hurt the enemy team and reduce their health pools greatly. My main issue with his playstyle is that, while dynamic, he actually, contrary to what you said, doesn’t seem to take enough advantage of static advantages. That’s why I run builds that tend to look something like 0/0/X/X/X (although my current build doesn’t reflect this pattern; their’s 10 in DA, but none in CS). My playstyle focuses on abusing dynamic advantages to create long-term static advantages. Caed’s playstyle focuses on using dynamic advantages to create more dynamic advantages, and that’s where I think that his playstyle ultimately falters. He can’t use a small advantage to destroy opponents; he has to use large ones. Of course, large advantages are better than smaller ones, but smaller ones tend to be more safely secured and, in the long run, still have the same effect that larger advantages have. Furthermore, Caed’s very dynamic play allows him to create very large advantages very quickly, but at the cost of allowing his enemies to do the same to him.

That’s not to say that dynamic play isn’t important; it is, and in order to gain static advantages, you need to abuse dynamic opportunities. If anything, Caed is far too dynamic and not static enough.

WHOAAAA dude.. easy. Come up for air before you choke on that!! holy cow!

lol

I have a tendency to overkill. -_-

Hot Boy.7138:

(i forgot to quote you when replying to this Arganthium)

I wanted to properly reply to what you said but I guess I went in a different direction. I wouldn’t call it a tragic story, i don’t take these things seriously. I was just surprised to see his name being listed as one of the best thieves. Well, even though Caed’s burst is definitely insane, I wouldn’t consider him someone playing at a high skill level because his playstyle seemed static to me. In my opinion being dynamic is important in pvp. I respect everyone’s build, whether it be glass canon all burst or bunker; so even though I respect his build, I wouldn’t call him one of the best thieves in the game because he seemed very predictable. Knowing a burst combo isn’t the same to me as being incredibly skilled.

Caed is extremely dynamic; he borrows from the short-term elements of a fight to create a long-term advantage. He uses specific combos at the correct time to wedge a large advantageous gap in his opponents. He has his cooldowns, positioning, and mobility mastered so that, in the long run, he can hurt the enemy team and reduce their health pools greatly. My main issue with his playstyle is that, while dynamic, he actually, contrary to what you said, doesn’t seem to take enough advantage of static advantages. That’s why I run builds that tend to look something like 0/0/X/X/X (although my current build doesn’t reflect this pattern; their’s 10 in DA, but none in CS). My playstyle focuses on abusing dynamic advantages to create long-term static advantages. Caed’s playstyle focuses on using dynamic advantages to create more dynamic advantages, and that’s where I think that his playstyle ultimately falters. He can’t use a small advantage to destroy opponents; he has to use large ones. Of course, large advantages are better than smaller ones, but smaller ones tend to be more safely secured and, in the long run, still have the same effect that larger advantages have. Furthermore, Caed’s very dynamic play allows him to create very large advantages very quickly, but at the cost of allowing his enemies to do the same to him.

That’s not to say that dynamic play isn’t important; it is, and in order to gain static advantages, you need to abuse dynamic opportunities. If anything, Caed is far too dynamic and not static enough.

Meridian.8730:

Why not just remove thief altogether?

By playing thief, you are already playing at a disadvantage to at least 4 other professions whose very powerful builds are all capable of holding their own vs every profession and who can easily beat thieves…

This is absolutely false. L2P, kid. So much misinformation. We can hold our own against every other profession easily, and I’m sorry for you if you see otherwise.

Sil.4560:

Thieves have excessive escape from everyone in WvW and Anet doesn’t seem to care.

This is one of the worst complaints about thieves I see.

“Oh, thieves are OP because they’re really good at giving up points!”

Anvil Rock. I would transfer there, but I don’t have teh moniez.

Hot Boy.7138:

On slow nights I join dueling games to waste time until I’m tired. It’s fun and I don’t take it seriously. I found myself in a game with Caed a couple weeks ago. He was dueling another thief and was destroying him. Caed’s burst is insane. I dueled him also and he beat me three times in a row. It seemed like he was unbeatable for a moment. But I won the 4th duel and he got really nasty. Then I beat him again after that and he turned into a total kitten. I went afk for a bit and came back dead to see that he neglected all other duels to just attack my afk character so he could feel good about himself. Not to mention he doesn’t /bow before a duel to give himself the advantage of opening up on someone who is still waiting to see the bow.

To be one of the best players you have to be dynamic. If you use the same strat each time to beat someone and they finally learn to counter it, it’s time to do something a little differently. He couldn’t change his playstyle in even the slightest so he lost again and turned into a jerk. Also, you have to know that there is always room for improvement. Take a loss as a sign that there are still things to improve upon. Anyone can learn a burst combo in a a minute as someone stated above me, that doesn’t make you a good player.

I think that Caed already well addressed your QQ’ing, but I honestly have to ask you why this was your response to my comment. I said something about not being sure about Caed’s total skill level and apparently that was a good justification for you to start going into your tragic story about how Caed was rude to you… Or not, by what I’ve been hearing.

Nettle.9025:

Arganthium.5638:

Caed… Eh. Not so sure. People hype him up a lot and all, but I know that he runs burstier stuff, and I’m not sure I respect that so much. So. No clue.

You shouldn’t disrespect a player’s level because of the build they run. The thing with burst thief is you should not be judging that thief’s skill level by how he can do a burst. I could teach anyone to do it in about a minute. What you should be judging that thief by is their positioning and their decision of WHEN to burst. Unfortunately these nuances go over a lot of people’s heads, and can be entirely missed by most in shoutcasts unless they are being directly spectated.

Positioning is very key for this build, and Caed does it well. Both him and Jumper are very good thieves.

There are a couple other NA thieves out there that are excellent as well, but aren’t as well known and thus don’t get as much love.

Oh, this was the conundrum that I was referring to. There are two levels of play: buildcrafting and actually playing. I know that he’s very well-known for his play, but his build is a bit… Not something that I’d agree with. That’s why I’m honestly not sure what to think of him; I haven’t seen enough of his use of the build to be able to judge how good a player overall he is.

So, /shrug. Burst builds, to me, are more of a tool that has somewhat mediocre theoretical use, but is very good in practice. But, like you said, it depends on how you play it, and the more skilled you are with a burst build, the more and more correct it will be as you increase your skill level. I just don’t think that its skill ceiling (skill cap) is as high as some other builds out there.

Worst but most fun build?

Enjoy. http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQJAVVlYm6OHcS6E95ExWhd694rjNsdP4qVrKA-ToAg0CnImRNjbGzMyZszM+Y9B

Have him meet you when you first come to Southsun, and then make Blingg’s repetitive voice go off in your character’s head every 30 seconds for the remainder of the living world event.

Jumper.9482:

But yeah. They did a good job. I’ve played a full thief team with PZ and they got wiped 1v4 by a Guardian on the far node. JUST SAYIN.

lolololol omg xD

Well, that escalated quickly. O.o

Bas.7406:

Just to let you know. SOAC is already doing something like this. I just wasn’t going to announce it until we got the captains in place and their list of teams. It’s fine if you want to do it. Just letting you know that one of the things we actively talked to with the coaches and several of the top NA and EU players about a top Player tournament Handpicked players.

I don’t mind you doing one, just figured you would want to know.

Alright.

I think that- with your and SOAC’s permission- we could combine what teams we have already set up (I know that Mighty already has some people down for him) with whatever you guys may have pulled as of now.

I’m just loving this idea more and more.

EDIT: also, Mighty and I discussed that these teams could function as a sort of Minor League, with the top-tier, high-level teams being the Major League of a sorts. I think that using this as a transition between casual play and professional play would be a really neat idea.

xmtrcv.5236:

I think the idea is (should be?) less about getting top players and more about getting a team that syncs and works well together in a coordinated fashion.

I definitely enjoyed playing with the SOAC Thief group last week. I think had we been more coordinated, we might have been able to be more effective (with regards to fighting Elementalists).

This.

I would very much like to have players like Caed and Jumper on a team of all thieves, but they’re already part of their own teams (I believe). Also, Mighty and I were chatting last night about this, and one way that we thought that we could use these teams would be as a sort of a Minor League to help “Major League” teams find new players. If that was going to be the case, though, then it would be preferable to have less experienced players play, as opposed to top-tier players.

Nettle.9025:

The reason basi is the elite is because he used lyssa runes in this build. It wouldn’t work without it.

Also, this. This was what made the build tick for him.

/sigh I don’t think that the rest of the team got half the credit they deserved that game. Jumper MVP? Probably, but he wasn’t alone either.

Travlane.5948:

swinks…..there is no more burst. i can give you a signet build that can kill anyone in 2 hits…but ur usually dead right after. lemme know if u want it.

Don’t listen to him, he can be a pesky little QQ’er at times swinsk.

Also, we can probably include multiple other spots for our team. We could have a team of ten, for example, with two coaches.

In case you haven’t seen TheMightyAltroll’s post yet in the PvP forums, here’s a berief summary:

TheMightyAltroll.3485:

I’m pondering getting together some extremely good players for single profession teams, assigning a coach, and letting them practice for extended periods of time before having each one record tournament matches, and eventually fight each other in a Soac style event. All for the purposes of competition, and study of one’s class. However, I would need backing and support from the community in this.

This would essentially be just like Soac, but with better players, more time to practice, and specifically for competition.

Do you guys think this is worth setting up?

I just thought of this because I was extremely disappointed how some classes were represented in the tourneys. I figure each class could use an extra shot at the top.

TheMightyAltroll.3485:

Alright, everyone that wants to start a team for this, post in your respected Profession forums, and recruit some players!

Send me a PM with the Roster in this format:
_____________
Team name

• Player 1
• Player 2
• Player 3
• Player 4
• Player 5
  Coach Name

I’m planning this to be an over-time thing, giving everyone time to practice and train. So no rush.

We should start some auditions up for this team, I think it’s a great idea. So, who’s interested?

TheMightyAltroll.3485:

You might be able to coach then, Arganthium. Try to organize a team on the Thief forums, and whisper me ingame if you want to discuss it.

Cool beans.

I’ll write up a post in the thief forums when I get the chance.

I’d join for the thieves. My rank isn’t high in PvP though (hot join is… Well, you know, I don’t have a team, and I’ve been more of a WvW player in the past :/), so the thief team might not want me. However, I am big into buildcrafting, tactics, strategies, etc, so I don’t feel that my rather pathetic rank 14 well represents my ability as a player.

Khenzy.9348:

Ostricheggs.3742:

If a thief with larcenous strike touches my might stacks, I’m dead and my whole team is probably gonna die soon after.

It’s easier than you think to spam flanking strike and larcenous. With sword 2 you can bounce around the map at will. Flanking strike is an evade as well making it very difficult to deal with because of the fact that you have to dodge larcenous strike or you’re screwed

I don’t know what world you live on, but larcenous strike thieves give HGH engis a pretty good run for their money. Is it a hard counter? Probably not. But a hard hitting, mobile boon steal build against a boon stacking class with 2 dodge roles with no reliable access to vigor is pretty kitten strong.

I would have to ask you the same, that’s a pretty bold exageration. Unless that thief is specced for full ini regen, that’s not happening; and if that’s what the thief is doing he’s not contributing much… Yeah, you’ll probably die without might stacks as you wont have anything else in terms of boons, but not by the thief, even though, not effective at all in the overall scheme of the match, just keep spamming them granades will ya?

Also, I’m pretty sure your spec would still be strong with 0 might stacks as it has always been for non HGH condi granadiers.
I’m not going to get into a thief vs engi debate, this is not the place.

If this was your bet against me, Jumper, or any one of many other thieves, you’d be dead pretty quickly. A lot of us run tons of initiative regeneration, and our builds focus around it. Also, if you think such a thief isn’t contributing to the team, you’re sorely wrong, on many different levels.

Of course, it’s certainly possible for an HGH engi with no might to do well against a boonsteal thief, but how well will that engi do against the thief and his/her buddies whom all have 20 might stacks on them?

Bakitten291:

Arganthium.5638:

Ezeriel.9574:

I’m sure this thread will see a hundred posts from people explaining nothing while telling you how easy it is for them to kill thieves. (no offense, Kronyx^)

You may also get advice like “I just use scepter and altruistic healing” or the standard “guardians do so much self healing thieves are a joke, you must be doing it wrong.”

The fact is, while other classes are spec’ing to kill people guardians spec to run across the map, and then hide being other people.

My newest 80 is a thief, and I am horrible at playing it, but I took the trait to steal boons, because there was nothing else to take…

Long story short I remember that I could steal boons while fighting a guard that had popped Save Yourselves. I stole his retaliation and protection, and it left me feeling sorry for him.

I slaughtered the poor guy without needing to steal any boons, and without even knowing what the hell I was doing.

In recent memory I can only recall one guardian that did enough damage to be a threat, and he dropped like a sack of potatoes.

The 1 on 1 balancing in this game is some of the worst I’ve ever seen, and your chances of beating a thief that off-hands a pistol are non-existent.

You aren’t gonna beat one that used a pistol and off-hands a dagger either.

…you should probably avoid ones using a shortbow too.

Agree with parts of this, other parts I don’t. Doesn’t matter though.

The fact of the matter is, if you watched the consolation match between Guards and Thieves today at the SOAC tournament, you’ll have noticed that boon steal was huge. Prior to the match, we literally spec’d 4 of our 5 members to run S/D with BT (Trix VII) for insane boon removal (and then one of them dropped out for- lucky us- Jumper). I am certain that without that boon steal, we wouldn’t have won (and even then, it was a very close match O.o).

My point is that against boon steal thieves, if you’re gonna go solo, you just have to accept the facts and run a less boon-oriented build. For guards, this tends to be difficult, but I’m sure somebody out there has such a build. Maybe a meditation build. Idk. But, my biggest word of advice would be…
DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, RUN SHOUTS. Thieves will sweep up all your boons and… Well, gg. Anyways, if you can pull this off, you’ll be in a great position.

As for D/P blinds, I think the best build would be something including some combination of GS, Ham, and/or Sword/Shield or Torch. These weapons are really good for control, which is extremely useful if you can’t hit the thief a lot anyways.

General advice: run a Med or Consec build. Somebody will probably QQ me about this, but the idea is that these allow you to counter boon thieves while staying on top of them during fights, and that’s what you really need.

10/30/30/0/0 1h strength build is pretty much as boonless as you can get, and extremely powerful.

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/guardian/?3.3|b.1g.h2.d.1c.h19|1.1p.h1l|1n.7c.1c.7c.1c.7c.1c.7c.1n.7c.1c.7c|1p.61.1n.61.1n.61.1g.61.1i.61.1c.61|a2.u24b.u64c.0.0|16.1|w.1a.15.13.1i|e

is what I use right now. Scepter is good if your facing anything that tends to move alot or will try to kite you to death, sword with a ZD/JI combo can crit into the 7ks when done correctly. If you do use sword/gs as your weapons pick up vuln on blind, you can easily get a 12 stack from virtue, flashing blade, and ray of judgement, which opens glass thieves up for serious damage, If you can time a bane signet to Interupt their heal skill it is pretty much game over, but does require some practice.

The build is very good, totally agree.

Not so sure I agree with the use of Scep though. It’s weak and easily avoided. Its only real grace against thieves is its ability to immobilize, but that’s about it.

Teamkiller.4315:

DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, RUN SHOUTS.

Shouts put you at a disadvantage against sword thieves 1v1 but why wouldn’t you do so otherwise? No other class really counters boon spam.

Even tho this is a nerf to our class, I feel like it’s done some of our guardians a favor, as now shouts isn’t the universal build to go to for both solo and group play. Also don’t use consecrations in a 1v1, bad idea.

1. Why would you use shouts if you were roaming anyways, lol. Spirit weapons, signets, and Meds are all better in solo situations.

2. The consecration that I was really talking about was Sanctuary, as that’s a really good way to control thieves. It’s also extremely annoying. -.-

Ezeriel.9574:

I’m sure this thread will see a hundred posts from people explaining nothing while telling you how easy it is for them to kill thieves. (no offense, Kronyx^)

You may also get advice like “I just use scepter and altruistic healing” or the standard “guardians do so much self healing thieves are a joke, you must be doing it wrong.”

The fact is, while other classes are spec’ing to kill people guardians spec to run across the map, and then hide being other people.

My newest 80 is a thief, and I am horrible at playing it, but I took the trait to steal boons, because there was nothing else to take…

Long story short I remember that I could steal boons while fighting a guard that had popped Save Yourselves. I stole his retaliation and protection, and it left me feeling sorry for him.

I slaughtered the poor guy without needing to steal any boons, and without even knowing what the hell I was doing.

In recent memory I can only recall one guardian that did enough damage to be a threat, and he dropped like a sack of potatoes.

The 1 on 1 balancing in this game is some of the worst I’ve ever seen, and your chances of beating a thief that off-hands a pistol are non-existent.

You aren’t gonna beat one that used a pistol and off-hands a dagger either.

…you should probably avoid ones using a shortbow too.

Agree with parts of this, other parts I don’t. Doesn’t matter though.

The fact of the matter is, if you watched the consolation match between Guards and Thieves today at the SOAC tournament, you’ll have noticed that boon steal was huge. Prior to the match, we literally spec’d 4 of our 5 members to run S/D with BT (Trix VII) for insane boon removal (and then one of them dropped out for- lucky us- Jumper). I am certain that without that boon steal, we wouldn’t have won (and even then, it was a very close match O.o).

My point is that against boon steal thieves, if you’re gonna go solo, you just have to accept the facts and run a less boon-oriented build. For guards, this tends to be difficult, but I’m sure somebody out there has such a build. Maybe a meditation build. Idk. But, my biggest word of advice would be…
DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, RUN SHOUTS. Thieves will sweep up all your boons and… Well, gg. Anyways, if you can pull this off, you’ll be in a great position.

As for D/P blinds, I think the best build would be something including some combination of GS, Ham, and/or Sword/Shield or Torch. These weapons are really good for control, which is extremely useful if you can’t hit the thief a lot anyways.

General advice: run a Med or Consec build. Somebody will probably QQ me about this, but the idea is that these allow you to counter boon thieves while staying on top of them during fights, and that’s what you really need.

It all depends on how you envision your thief playing as.

Top 3 methods to countering might stacking:

1.Run a thief with your team.
2.Run a thief with your team.
3.Run a thief with your team.

ariel.7614:

Who do you think is the best player?

I know about Caed and Jumper, not sure about the other two.

I totally respect Jumper, especially after playing with him today. His abilities on a thief are… Absolutely off the charts. He’s incredibly skilled.

Caed… Eh. Not so sure. People hype him up a lot and all, but I know that he runs burstier stuff, and I’m not sure I respect that so much. So. No clue.

Iove.3902:

I might not be able to make it guys, I just got called into work — EMT. Good luck, will try to catch the stream if I make it home.

It’s all good, thanks for notifying us.

Lux.7169:

Bas.7406:

Sittingonacouch.com Bracket:
Shoutcasted by – Daemonlasher and Jumper http://www.twitch.tv/soacgaming

1. Nettle’s Thieves vs 8. Rangers
4. Gibbly’s Necromancer vs 5. Guardian

This is hilarious because…. my fiancee is on the rangers team. She’s saying we’re going to get beat by a girl…

Haha

Nettle.9025:

Looks like we have our five for Saturday, but if anyone else wants to play don’t hesitate to sign up. We did have to bring in a sub on Thursday so it would be great to have 1 or 2 for this one as well.

Just to clarify I have Lux from yesterday, and 4 new people: Wasdica, Kinjax, Arctu, and Seraphixation. I will try to catch the new people sometime tonight to discuss builds.

Cool deal.

I can show you the two that I’ve been main-ing as of late, but I think your advice will likely be more valuable anyways. But yeah.

Awesome.

I’m quite sure that I can make this tournament, I’m almost entirely free Saturday. I have a sports thingy going on at 5:30 PST, but that’s it. It’ll almost certainly be over by 7:30 or 8.

Sign me up, please.

IGN: Arctu Spackle Yarba
Day Available: Saturday
Recording Capability: None
NA or EU: NA

Dear ANet, sparkflies are OP. They keep getting in my line of vision and my asura can’t see his enemies. Plz nerf.

Thx.

Selver.1307:

Really, no mods, constant complaints. What the hell is wrong with this forum community.

Same as ever. -_-

These guys are OP, plz nerf.

I’ll be cheering you guys on, good luck and have fun!

Travlane.5948:

Grimwolf.7163:

TreeSerpent.3176:

when they can down a player in 1 to 3 hits?

Because they can’t.
The glassiest cannon in all Berserkertown could not kill a fellow glass cannon in 1-3 hits.
I don’t think you could kill an up-leveled level 2 in WvW in a single hit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10rFzGjIEEM

u can….but u die right after usually.

What Trav said. Sorry, but the idea that a GC couldn’t down another GC that quickly is… Ridiculous. But realize that if your enemy so much as sneezes, you’re dead.

I totally agree with this, though I might suggest that, like the Invis said, the target drops while the thief is stealthed and comes back up when they are out of stealth. That way we’re actually able to heal, prepare venoms, etc as we should be allowed to do (stealth is also a time for planning) but still stick to the OP’s intentions. Also, it would let people know when thieves are in stealth and when they leave it, which I’m ok with supporting.

<Player looking for a team>
Ingame name: Arctu Spackle Yarba
Main Class / Potential Classes: Thief (Main), Mesmer (Potential)
Region: NA (Mountain Time)
Practice Times: (Can’t set yet, my schedule is wack right now)
Experience: Mained a thief since September when I got GW2. Have a lot of experience in bunker/balance/tank thieves. Mesmer is my second most played class overall; I’ve been on and off from it rather frequently. Fits my playstyle though.
Other: Looking for a new PvP guild/team, current one is a bit too small to do any PvP sadly. also, I run a Mac for GW2, so if the chat requires a Windows computer…

PM me if interested, thanks. c:

Travlane.5948:

11 days….then we get to find out how angry we will be lol

Pretty much this.

SR is certainly a nice healing tool, but if you know where the downed player was before the stealth went up, it’s near useless. The thief can’t move while rez’ing, so all you have to do is stand over where the downed player was and just spam 1 as much as possible. Once stealth goes off, you’ll have two downed if not dead players.

Yes, you can almost 1 hit a person with a glass thief.

Which implies that any other person can down them in almost as many hits as well.

It’s not a matter of being OP, it’s a matter of getting ambushed, healing, and then retaliating. Then it’s just a free stomp.

Travlane.5948:

i run 0 0 30 30 10 on my bleed thief with 22k hp. he is still squishy as *#@! .

As a bunker thief, lemme tell you something: you’re doing it wrong.

The only thing disheartening about that video is how badly disorganized that army is. O.o

Ryuujin.8236:

…and there goes the market.

Well done OP ¬_¬

Lol.

Only the 1235401978264th time he’s done this, in all honesty.

Did it with ectos too.

Kruhljak.2705:

You are not a real player. Your inventory is much too empty and uncluttered with useless crap.