the first day I was playing Revenant… I had the same problem than you.
But now… I find the energie manageable. You gotta do more games and try to understand how it works.
If you only had to use your energie for the utilities… it would make the class really boring.
Did you know that when you change your form, you regain 50% energie?
I find the Revenant really strong in 1v1 & TF. Mallyx/Herald, or Shiro/Herald are really OP imo.
You must be spamming (as already told) to run out of energie this quickly…
l2p issue sadly.
I stopped reading when I understood it was about hotjoin. Guys, you should stop playing it now and go “unranked”
maybe the OP did the same? For his screenshot, I mean…
that’s why we can’t see the rest of it
I don’t know if anyone else noticed but being that the op was on ele he likely had any number of boons up. A treated warrior would gain +3% damage PER boon on the target. A measely 6 boons would result in an 18% damage modifier. If I could slap 6 boons on the golem we’d really get to see some fireworks
Boon hate is legit and we need to see more of it
Haha you can ask 2 people to test this
I don’t see you buffing the golems !
maybe the OP did the same? For his screenshot, I mean…
that’s why we can’t see the rest of it
22k ! TRUE SHOT NERF IT SOOO SOO SOOO OP. CREATE A NEW THREAD NAMED “22k TS sooo op,, really??” please !
As warrior, I’m so disappointed. And sooo jealous for all the cool things the other classes got. IT’S SO kittenING DEPRESSING to think about it… why can’t you have a little imagination ?! Come on you had 3,5 year.
This berserker was a sooo little mode. Like 0 new thing, it just changes the F1 that you already have. I mean, it’s not a real F2 or F3/4, not a health bar, not a skill bar. It just transforms your F1 into another F1 that’s little different but still the same (less strong version of it). They want warrior soo basic that… it’s just sad. Come on, how’s that we’re still stuck with only one f1?
And the torch … come on xD it’s even more “magic” thing than a staff. I’d prefer a staff (like revenant/thief) than a kittening torch. Or maybe a new weapon made only for warrior?
Even a dagger, I’d say yes … come on didn’t you know that medieval knights(even the “barbarians”) had daggers?
How’s that fast hand isn’t a basic trait of warrior… it’s still stuck in discipline… I mean… have you seen a warrior without fast hand?…
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Already told & said. Imo, it’s not the berserker itself but the core warrior that have problems… There’s plenty of topics that are talking about it.
What’s going on? No one has an idea. Anet has given 0 communication.
In PvE, Berserker seems to do fine/great (I don’t play PvE or WvW), but in PvP… there’s no real reason to take a warrior. And it’s gonna be impossible to rework warrior or even balance it… because of PvE, imo. The PvE and PvP are lied since they fusionned them….
After 3.5y there’s still a lot of skills not working as intended. There’s no real changes to the warrior. This Berserker is just a liiiiittle “new thing”, you have no real reason to get it since adrenaline is so kittenty. They gave a PULL to the guards omg… and they made revenant so cool it feels like a real warrior to me. Even the necro is more warrior than the warrior class….
The developers don’t play Warrior (or their game…), thus they don’t even know what they are doing. They don’t care about what the players are saying/asking.
They don’t deserve all those posts made by players trying to help them, suggest them ideas etc, they don’t deserve all those efforts.
Axe 4 on off-hand could be a pull too. (Stop guys being selfish and talk only about GS’s gameplay, I find GS so boring)
Dual Strike : (off-hand axe being chained) Throws the axe, if it hits, pulls the target toward you and does a strike with the main weapon. (cuz dual strike and it actually does a double attack with both weapon).
Or : Throws the axe, while it’s stuck on the target it’s applies vulnerability(or any random condition, like cripple), if pressed again within the 3s, it pulls the target toward you.
I still can’t believe they gave the Guardian an OP short CD pull -.-
Wow even after it has been confirmed people are still trying to morph what they say to justify their wrongful accusations. Just accept you were wrong and your vilification of what I posted was also wrong. It doesn’t matter what other skills a warr has to use, that was not what people were saying, they were saying is was not possible in sPvP, and likely only possibly in WvW which was not correct. Trying to spin it so you come out in some good light after bashing someone for telling the truth is pretty shameful.
Are you the sort of person who runs someone over in a car and blames them for walking on the pavement, and then realises pavements aren’t for cars so criticise your victim for walking funny instead. For real??
Go create a warrior, then go do 20k dmg on every Gunflame in every unranked arena you do. Then come back to whine.
“justify their wrongful accusations” …. yeeah man, you know what? What if you try to understand why those “wrongful accusations” were made, huh? Because 1) you never played warrior nor this build; 2) It was so suspicious and we still have no idea of the context, conditions that led to this 20k you talk about. 3) You talk about it in a too much dramatic way. 4) You don’t try to understand what people are trying to tell you: this isn’t an OP build, specially compared to the meta builds.
@ the others…. no you can’t have 8s of endure pain if you want the “20k” dmg lol…
You can focus the rifle warrior hard from the beginning, you won’t be seeing the damages you are afraid of. (did you know that a DH can outdamage you with his bow? Just ask the DH to focus the Gunflame warrior, no trap involved. Even a LB Ranger can easily kill him. @The thiefs, the P/P even can kill him too. Or just steal on warrior and do whirling axe to counter the rifle…
It’s like the ADC in LoL, you can’t really let him free all the time, cuz he’s gonna kill. You need to focus him. It’s logic, he’s definitely not a bunker!
My biggest damage with gunflame was maybe 11k… 5k on bunkers… If it was this OP, you would see everyone play it … -_-
Remember, you can’t have STRENGTH, ARMS, DEFENSE, DISCIPLINE, BERSERKER all at the same time ! Neither you could possibly have those 6 utilities at the same time : Endure Pain+Berserker Stance+Balanced Stance/dolyak signet+Signet of Might+Signet of Fury+Frenzy.
So what I’m understanding is that anyone who can’t play Warrior has serious l2p issues..I have ran nothing but Warrior since GW2 release, and I have NEVER had a nerf or anything be a problem. Find out what Anet does to their game in updates, find out what needs to be fixed, and adapt. I am still very balanced and have no problems killing ANY class. 3.5k Power, 3.3k armor, 56% crit, 19k health, etc. Condi is useless to me, but I can still kill without it and I don’t need to worry about survivability: I have that no problem.
Go back to your WvW or PvE with your 3.5k Power, 3.3k armor, 56% crit, 19k HP.
Obvious troll is obvious.
We should apologize to you?! First you bring up a doubtful screenshot … and refuse to tell us any information on the context. And we should believe you?
Did you read Ross Biddle?
0 ! ZERO .
I’d give -10 if you allowed it.
Coming back to the game after 3 years… and get this… the time needed to unlock my spec and the masteries thing… is soooooo slow. It’s time confusing for 0 fun. It’s wasting my time. I don’t like PvE. But I’d like to unlock the spec -_-
I don’t know why it’s so hard to implement 1v1 – 2v2 – 3v3 etc servers,yet they spent so much kittening time on pve….
Because Anet is full of stubborn people ! They want to compete against LoL/Dota2. They want to proof that 5v5 is all fun and is meant for everyone.
I’m having a hard time now… while trying to PvP with a newly created team. I didn’t have fun today. We lost most of the games.
I’d enjoy so much 1v1, 2v2, 3v3 !
If it’s that easy, move to north america and pay your rent with all that easy money. problem solved, you’re now a successful E-Athlete and the envy of the twelve spectators in the world that care about GW2 pro leagues.
lol
Eviscerate leap should be little faster and not affected by “chill & cripple”.
@Axe Off Hand
-“Whirling Axe Reflect Projectiles same as dagger storm” +1, I still don’t get after 3y that … this isn’t even an option via the traits… lol
-For Dual Strike, make it a grab/pull skill? As if the 2nd Axe was a chained one. You throw your chained Axe and it pulls the enemy toward you and does a second strike with the main hand weapon (cuz, why not, =Dual strike? xD). It’s an idea that would make interesting Off hand axe, because we surely need more tools.
What I didn’t expect were tears. Bravo, I haven’t laughed so hard in a while.
You didn’t expect tears from a PvP community for an attack doing 20k damage? It doesn’t matter how gimmicky it is, people can’t handle situations where it felt like they couldn’t react, regardless of how many things they could have done to prevent it.
OMG… GET IT. YOU CAN’T GET 20k DMG FROM GUNFLAME. SCREENSHOT IS FALSE.
Maybe in WvW, against a lv10 you could do that while equiped with a legendary + ascended + buffs. Anyway I don’t play WvW (cuz it’s always been a not serious PvP form). We’re in sPvP, and no IT IS NOT POSSIBLE. TESTED ETC,
Lastly it was doing 5k in crit against necros… anyway I rerolled into revenant/necro.
gonna give a try to scrapper, it maybe the hammer I’m looking for.
my game crashed several times this evening (with really weird bugs). Crashed once in a sPvP game, didn’t get dishonored luckily ! But yeah +1 Photinous.4628
Baseline 5s weapon swap would be reaaaallly great ! And I can’t get why they still didn’t do it… I mean come on, did you ever see a warrior without fast hand? … It kind of defines warrior for me and differentiate it from the other classes! It creates a more dynamic and unpredictable class.
@OP & Choppy, your posts are really depressing :’(
Imo, eviscerate has became a total joke…
I can’t play anymore with Leg Specialist(that I LOVED) , Berserker’s Fury + (old) Valkyrie Amulet, cuz I can’t go 30/25/10/0/15 (was it something like that?) I’m sad… :/
(this is where they killed the class for me, my gameplay, Leg Specialist was good and I can’t take it anymore cuz the traitline is kittenty, not my style’s weapons)
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nah they are oroginally warrior who migrated to guardian!
Man… you just broke the cover of our double agents ! You killed the mission, now it is dead. Anet never ever will think that warrior is a kitten class in PvP !
Yesterday, I was discussing with a guy… he said to me : “Warrior is still OP, he was OP for 3year… Now it’s the turn of the others to be OP. Warrior’s job is to deal a HUGE amount of dmg (burst) and kill before die etc. With berserker Warrior can deal this damage! I don’t see the problem, I kill the warriors with any of my rerolls but it’s normal warrior is such a basic noobish class, either you burst or you die. With Warrior you have huge CC’s, and ENORMOUS BURST, you must kill before you die, you can’t have everything, let the others play etc” … (he doesn’t play warrior but saw the others play warrior).
Srsly, I don’t care if warrior have been in the meta for too long and now needs it’s retirement… I come back to the game since HoT, I don’t care! I want to play my fav class… And this Enormous burst dmg & CC’s (which doesnt exist anymore)…. I can hardy place them and it’s became normal or ridiculous compared to the other classes (and they have muuch more sustains)… Warrior can be too easily kited, controlled, dodged, temporized etc, and he doesn’t have any real gap closer…
I’ve tried the revenant… man I don’t even know if I’d go back to warrior… it feels much more like a real warrior. Dynamic gameplay, real stances (the legendary forms xD), real gap closers, HIGH DPS+Burst, Really good sustains. It’s really warrior v2!
Plus the revenant is much more quicker than warrior ! Warrior has so slow and scripted animations that you can easily dodge/predict.
lol ! I like it
It was totally the last icon of berserker that was taking away my envy to play warrior
a) 15g is really not that much, just win few games
b) turai ossa is good enough anyways, you don’t need other ones so much unless you play premade with some Super clever tactics.
Win few games?!!
In 2 weeks of PvP-ing … I’ve done only 30g ! Are you saying that we win 1g per win?
In PvE, you can do 30-60g in 2-3h. (or more, dunno I’ve been told so from players that are really rich imo, and I don’t play PvE). In PvP, I’ve done 30g max in 2 weeks.
THEY FUSION PVE AND PVP. So now, all the cool things about “I PvP, I don’t care about PvE and golds” are gone ! And naturally you become jealous of those guys with their full legendaries. In the end, you are like “kitten YOU kitten YOU kitten YOU ARENA NET”…. If you want one, it’s 300€ !!! kitten YOU
WHY ARE YOU FORCING ME TO DO PVE?!!!!
20€ for a tormented shield skin, are you kidding me? What if I want more of those skins?! I have to become a millionaire irl or what?!
In league of legends, I can buy 4 or more skins for that money.
Why did I come back into the game? Paying 44€ for unfinished and completely messy PvP ? Are they being like Riot, 2-3 weeks of OP champ at release and then nerf? Or are they completely blind kittens?
Why soooo little changes in 3,5 year?? Really?
@OP, the devs have never played PvP imo. Thus, they can’t see what’s wrong. PvP players have always been let down by Anet (in gw2, I guess). It’s obvious they have no direction at all…. They are like 50-60y old PvE-ers trying to do their job with a complete lack of passion & motivation, they have no vision of the PvP aspect (so it’s the image I get from their attitude, 0 communication at all). They aren’t even trying at least by testing stuff etc. I don’t know man, I’m so sick of them. I come everyday in the forum since a week or two, and all I can see is : players fantasizing about the futur of GW2, about stuff they’d like, about the balance they’d like, etc and all this for 0 results from this stubborn Anet.
Btw, wtf are those shards of glory??! I mean there’s nothing I can buy with them…
In 3,5 year, they made 0 different modes that are competitive. What makes you think that asking on the forum will make them “create” new modes?
They’ve been asked about it for 3,5y. They won’t suddenly change their stubborn politic.
kitten , I’m so angry, why did I bought 4000 gems, my kittening biggest mistake, when they don’t care about PvP…. I can’t even have a legendary skin by playing PvP … I need to convert into PvE looool why the kitten did you fusion them in first place?!
You can join the mists and test on the golems?
so warrior is called wr, not war?
However, I fail to see how you can survive longer and clean 7 condi in a very short time witha stun breaker..
And what happens if I don’t want to take defense trait?
After I used my Endure Pain, and shield block (note that you can’t block DH traps, Necro marks etc), I become really vulnerable, and do I really have the time to put enough damage (pressure) within this time? Sometimes, yes, I manage to kill (for sure there’s bad players against me, and I hope I don’t suck). But I can tell for sure, playing Reaper is feeling much more warrior atm and I survive 3 or 4 times longer in fights while I put REALLY HUGE pressure on them…
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I guess we’re either talking about PvE or WvW.. right?
Thanks for the sharing!
Sharing is caring
An idea suddenly hit me (yeah 2w late cuz I don’t play pve) : They will never fix warrior in PvP since they probably so glued to the idea of PvPvE (give me Aion then, don’t give us a separate PvP mode, just delete sPvP and let WvW,kitten. Whey will never ever do something about Warrior since if they touch the PvP war, people will cry in PvE … kitten it.
Elite spec is just an extra traitline which also lets you equip a new weapon
Use it how you would choose arms over defense or tactics over strength vice versa.
If I would want to go full dire condition cheese warrior, I would go defense,discipline and berserker
If I wanted to go full dps warrior, I would strength arms discipline or strength defense discipline. (yes berserker gives you a lot of % modifiers but in the end, I wont have much use for the berserker mode because in most situation the enemy will be dead with my first adrenaline bar filled up).
Just another traitline which opens up warriors to be in balance with the roaming dire/perplex mesmers/thieves/guardians in open world pvp and pvp. (implying its extremely great spec for condition warriors or even hybrid ones)
*I feel anet just messed up on calling the elite spec berserker, they shouldve called it something else. *
Meanwhile the elite spec for literally every other class is meta because they give them a massive power creep lol
Well Berserker is meta….. http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Berserker_-_Phalanx_Strength
Are we talking about PvE here?
If yes, I’m out.
I think you will get 30 min queue time then.
Well maybe you are right but then it can be “Prioritized” like giving players with more or less the same as you to queued first then the rest
Isn’t it how matchmaking should be done?
lol you know when they cast spear of justice the pull will come next, even a child could see that coming…l2 dodge or use stability.
Honestly, the DH doesn’t need his traps to kill, it’s just a bonus !
from my perspective and experience, mace isn’t great for berserker mode cuz you’d prefer the 3s stun over the 1s daze from berserker mode, specially when running GS to land 100b.
maybe I’m too used to the mace burst than the berserker one… but if I’d take mace, it’s for the 3s stun.
I’ll give more feedback when I’ll try it for a day.. but I don’t feel like playing GS since I can’t have a legendary GS skin in PvP xD (yes, I’ve stopped the game 2,5y ago; and I don’t approuve this fusion of pve/pvp… I feel like I’m just hanging around… without progress, without real skins..)
Atm, I’m trying Axe/mace + Sword/shield…
go war dude ! stun lock, high dmg ! interesting gameplay !
(but you gonna die often)
Because Ellie Goulding
XD hilarious ! OP put this in frontpage pls !
I’ve read someone telling that Anet doesn’t want the Warrior to have any magical thing, like a TP… so we can dream about it…
But clearly the warrior skills need faster response time… (reactivity). The most difficult part must be how to stick to the target … not prey that the skill may touch the target and hopefully you can do something … lol
Just give us some skillshot skills …. Not kittening this much “let’s random roll” ones -_-
The most ridiculous thing that makes me mad on warrior… is that most of melee skills are “homing” and just the fact that you move your char with W+RMB make them miss.
And some skills without target just don’t work. The 2 when downed… it’s really ridiculous when I know he’s stomping me and I know exactly where he is … but no he’s just in stealth.. it’s a stupid example.
Let’s say, I feel like I want to play Axe/Mace + Sword/shield… and I’d like to have Arms and Berserker for +30% AS, for the last trait spec, I have choice between defense or discipline. I choose discipline cuz fast hand (it must be a warrior thing, without need of spec -_-). So without defense, I got Endure pain, Shield block, Berserker stance, after that… I’m sooo free kill. even a thief just come melee and kill you … the joke, warriors skills are so slow they can’t even a 0cm close melee target… Anyway, after playing reaper, I found my new" warrior type game play."
It is sooo fun ! I’ve never thought I’d play rifle warrior
And it’s dealing insane damages xD
So, first step to the e-sport : adc – check
(if they nerf it without nerfing DH & Reaper… I’ll cry)
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Glad to see that… after 2,5 year… we’re still at the same point ! Not encouraging to come back into the game.
It’s like nothing has changed … xD
The hit boxes of some skills need to be bigger, and faster. We aslo need another healing skill, maybe? x)
what is fractal?
Why s/d or s/p thief builds are not on the list?
Because you keep thinking those builds really require high skill? …
Why just “guardian” and specific builds for the others classes?
Hey!
This is the build that I’ve always used as trapper (since beta) and still works. For me, it’s the variety which has the most burst ability while having a great survival/kiting. You can really quickly get 25 stacks of bleeding.
Warhorn provides you a nice mobility. You can play it as a roamer or point keeper.
@awge,
Anyone in a 1vs2 situation will die (assuming they have same skill).
Any experienced player will easily kill a trapper, is that you are saying?
From my experience, I’d say : any experienced trapper will win his 1vs1.
Yeah they really kittened up by bringing all these guys with their legendary weapons in sPvP… They’ve wasted their time to do their weapons because they liked to have them in WvW/PvE (you couldn’t use them in sPvP).
So why should they be privileged over sPvP players? Do players who’ve wasted their time in sPvP have legendary weapons?
Do sPvP players have exclusive awesome weapon skins in WvW/PvE ? NON!
Why cannot players who exclusively do sPvP have some exclusive awesome weapon skins in sPvP?
Yes, I feel jealous because I don’t have any chance to get a legendary weapon (or put an exclusive awesome skin here) just by doing sPvP… none
I won’t do 1 or 2 months of full PvE just to get a legendary weapon… I’m so kittening bored in PvE… The only thing that keeps me play this game is : skin, and that forces me to PvE… Why keep playing this game?
There’s still no more game modes, no 2vs2, 3vs3 Arenas. No capture of flag. No really fun stuffs. No real ranking. No challenge. No interesting rewards. No real balances (plenty of builds are still not viable).
(I’ve already done a lot of pauses, and I still have no reason to resume the game. A-net staff is sleeping, at least that’s what I feel. Did they even play their own game?)
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In sPvP :
You will see some funny stuff… Like, a thief is 5% and your pet just doesn’t touch him (he’s not even dodging) and the thief stomp you without any difficulty
I just didn’t believe how my wolf could be this stupid… It was hilarious. (swiftness makes them really… dumb.)
Take the runes that summon a dog or parrot, and hey! you will be a “ranger” too
Anyway, I forgot about trying some BM build… Wtf theses pets? Even Necro’s undead/zombie/nobrain pets are more intelligent.
Compare the ranger’s pet of GW2 to WoW’s hunter’s pet… The difference is so big.
(wow, I don’t know how I got in this WvW section, my talks concern sPvP; even though the pet just doesn’t change his IA…)
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Because it gives you more crit chance when you have more than 1 signet?
Personally, I use it on my war, not because it’s buggued but I need crits (I’m using valkyrie amulet).
He’s been saying the same thing over 5 pages?
We got that DWA doesn’t give you better damage/dps if you get interrupted. Since it’s sPvP, the interest in DWA would be to place faster your skills. And yes in some cases, exemple for axe or sword, it’d be an increase of the DPS. (But I’d rather say that DWA is more for increase of burst damage, max damage dealt in the shortest time, than a real increase of AA skills. If you take axe/mace and do 5,4,2,F1, I feel like DWA is making more noticeable damage increase than the same combo without DWA; if done well you’ll place this burst while the enemy is still knock-downed and without DWA he might have time to dodge Eviscerate, since it’s animation if slow.)
However, I agree that an increase of the attack speed would be really interesting. 15% will be more noticeable and will be played more by warriors => build diversity. Even why not 20%? The gameplay would be much more fun
and warriors will be more likely to let down Cleansing Ire in order to get DWA.
What’s Teq? What do you get from it? It is good to make money? Or just waste of time?
Since you got “Sure-Footed”, it’s better to change Dolyak Signet and get Balanced Stance.
If you want to play with Dolyak Signet, and Signet reduction; I think “Deep Strike” in Armes can give you interesting crit rate.
Burst Precision isn’t really interesting. Burst Master in discipline can be interesting if you often use Eviscerate & Earthshaker (sigil of intelligence for the axe would replace Burst Precision). Valkyrie amulet would be interesting too.
Btw, why post it here? It should be in “Warrior” forum.
This is my stupid opinion
At high levels of play you don’t see mechanical skill being the deciding factor in match-ups. Most high level players are hovering around the cap of max efficiency skill usage, and so the deciding factors become rotation and build synergy – forcing fights where you have the advantage more often than not.
Warrior plays into this very well because it is relatively easy to play compared to other classes, which allows the player to devote more of their mental concentration to awareness of the map, allies, and enemies. Sure, they could play a more mechanically intensive class and maybe gain a tiny bit more utility in combat, but that comes at the cost of a devoting a lot more of their concentration to the mechanical aspect of the fight, which means reduced awareness of the map and their allies’ situations.
As a bad example, the warrior could go another class and may get that enemy downed faster, but was focusing too much on his skill to do it and so it took him too long to realize his ally was getting stomped behind him and rallied the guy he just got down.
Obviously 5 warriors is not a good idea though because there is no synergy and too easily hard-counted.
Ok. So, are you telling that hambow is an easy build that asks the lowest concentration from the player to be the highest effective possible? High “ranked” players should all play this way? Your justifications are invalid. If you aren’t able to pay attention to what’s happening around you, then you should first learn to pay attention to these things before playing in team (Team Arena). Since, the stomp and revive are really important in this game you cannot tell things like you are saying.
If it asks less concentration from the player, then it should be less effective.
OP really needs to L2P.
I started thinking he’s a “hambow” player. Or not even a warrior.
Hello my frands! Vee Wee here #1 Engi NA and world first rank 80!
If you can’t take mean people saying mean things to you then the Internet is not the place for you my frand!
And yeah don’t forget : the first thing to write when posting on Internet is, show how crazy skill you have, even if the subject don’t care about it
so you would be taken seriously!
(I’m just curious, how do you know that you are #1 Engi NA?)
But yeah you’re right, not taking the haters seriously and making fun of them is quiet fun actually. Block the guy and every time you kill him /laugh. He or his entire team will get so angry