I see no reason to change them, I have not even seen them used in game and my server is playing some fairly heavy hitters lately (not doing great but playing them) I am on dragonbrand.
Roamers from DB are using them or at least did when i was playing them.
I play on TC.
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Well, you know you are in trouble when the developer who is livestreaming refers to Supply Mastery as “cool”.
You also know you are in trouble when Devon always speak of changes that have been asked for from day 1 as something that they haven’t even started working on yet.
In a year from now I’m sure we’ll hear the same stuff. “Improving <> system takes time, but is definitely something we want to do”.
I like supply mastery ;-;
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No new map.
Nothing about GvG
Adding sPVP into WvW
No Golem Mastery (hehe)
Well done…. good way to kill the WvW.
No new map does blow
Nothing about gvg is as it should be
adding spvp into wvw just plain stup er a mistake
no golem mastery…that seems golemist
What is wrong with adding an spvp element to WvW? More open air un-walled objectives that can make a difference is a good thing as it will draw players into the field.
I think at this point we all have to understand WvW is not going to be DAoC II. That just isn’t how they designed the game, and it’s too late to change it now.
The nub: WvW is an Arena for zergs.
By adding sPvP to WvW, they are providing an Arena for 5 mans and roamers.
Under the circumstances, that is the best that can be hoped for.
I feel like the new capture zones will be dominated by zergs.
i’m worried about this myself. We will have to see how things will play out. It may be the added distraction of the points allows for so much pushing around the map that it will fragment zergs though.
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If you can take an entire year of trying to overcome terrible
Mechanics and Zergballs…. Then props to you man. We couldn’t take literally the exact same outcome anymore.
I’ve been apart of some great guilds and have been varying my play up. Trying to master new play styles and professions. Working on theorycrafting and a whole suite of things. I missed out on daoc but got to love large scale mmo pvp with WAR. GW2 has been so much better to me than WAR has and i hope for greatness in the future . i will always be going where i can find the best people to play with for the best fights we can find as a gaming community. Right now that is here, but who knows in the future. I don’t have faith in Anet but i don’t require faith. The format will be what it is and that is on them. i will expect nothing of them and will judge solely by what they are giving me and what their content means to be at a juncture.
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No new map.
Nothing about GvG
Adding sPVP into WvW
No Golem Mastery (hehe)
Well done…. good way to kill the WvW.
No new map does blow
Nothing about gvg is as it should be
adding spvp into wvw just plain stup er a mistake
no golem mastery…that seems golemist
What is wrong with adding an spvp element to WvW? More open air un-walled objectives that can make a difference is a good thing as it will draw players into the field.
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After i start watching this stream i got a little hope that something will change, and at least we will get some nice info, but after 2 min of stream i lost my hope. AN thinks that abilities on WvW are great, and trying to make them use by players. New orb will completly destroy GvG, and still like half of year till this orb. This is kinda pathetic.
Go play with your ability alone AN. Thx for destroying WvW.
Im done with this game. Everquest NEXT is next target.
It was funny when people started to spam about GvG, AN turned off stream. Well done. You dont care about players at all.
Don’t kid yourself, you would be going to everquest next regardless. Some people just don’t like games and force themselves to play them as they wait for the next one to come and disappoint them.
No.
Im playing WvW for 9 months now, AND ONLY WVW. I dont play PvE,sPvP – im more mass pvp player. Im just sad that AN is ignoring hardcore guilds – which they are making fun on your WvW. Most of people here, runing randomly on zombie zergs 1h per 3 days – so yeah, for that kind of ppl WvW is some kind of fun. I was expecting from today livestream something more, insted of listening how COOL abilities are, when they are not.
I said that on other topic. Im still here, cuz of my guild – nothing more, nothing less. Im pretty sure, that on new game with mass pvp + GvG system, borders on GW2 will be empty.
Was said also, Dev today ignored people – that pretty much how AN care about WvW players.
I was watching the stream and the chat was incredibly hostile. I don’t blame the devs for showing cautious indifference when a segment of the game community is acting that way. A lot of players are calling for blood and then wonder why they are getting responses or demands met…
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^^
Dude, its a video game. Of course 90% of the people on it are there for some mindless entertainment. We then revert to a thing known by the locals as “real life” and pursue our true passions.
funny part is, we can accomplish this is 2-3 hours spent after work a night. I never said devote endless amounts of time…lol. These games are so easy.
RL of course is more important, it just fun to come home from work, and absolutley demolish people. We never even play weekends, just weeknights. The guy asked my definition of a true pvper.
And you think these kinds of people have left GW2?
Now that right there is what we call “A Gooooo Won” (translation a good one).
That kind of player bought the game, played it, realized its a WARhammer remake filled again with $$$ spending 8 year olds….tried pvp, realized its AoE cap and downed state caters to bad players being able to win, to keep the games population up because they get to “win” fights theyd lose in other games….and Gaaaabye, they left.
If you dont believe me, read through this thread and count all the times people said “I knew some people, who have now left”
There is ZERO competition in this game. ZERO competitive natured people. Sitting on an AC for 3 hours or some treb isnt competitive, its lazy and boring. Hence the 8 yr old can do this reference.
I deleted my post because i combed through your history and felt it wrong to try and put words in your mouth.
If you find that the floor is lifted up by downed state and aoe cap then that is a call for you to play better to out-do the bads who have mechanical support.
There are plenty of competitive natured people still in WvW, a lot of US are frustrated by the current metas. We who remain keep challenging ourselves while advocating for Anet to move the game in ways that we think will promote competition and challenge. I don’t personally sit and sift through the forums arguing and pontificating but i do consult and speak with those who do. There are plenty of pvpers like you describe still here, i will agree we are the minority but that doesn’t mean you have to turn a blind eye to us.
Uh huh..and how is your ‘playing better’ working vs. higher numbers with AOE caps and the downed state?
You must be doing something special because all of us haven’t been succeeding vs. larger zergs for a full year. All it takes it minimal organization on the side of the zerg to roll over you.
If what you were saying is true..then why are there constant complaint about the two terrible mechanics/restrictions and mass exodus from WvW in lower tier servers.
They can’t be all wrong and you’re right..can they?
No you’re right. There is a point where we can’t make up the mechanical difference that gives advantage to the zerg ball, but we make every effort to over come it and we find both reward and a challenge in playing that way.
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Runes of perplexity are strong and think need to be toned down. I think they way they work is fine just the amount of confusion or the duration of the confusion they apply is a bit much.
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He downed you first. He should get the kill, not the other way around.
But it doesn’t work when the thief drops SR before he drops?
How about when someone interrupts the stomper because they don’t have access to stealth instantly as the thief does and their stability is on a 40-60 sec cool down?
How about when someone can’t stomp a thief because they are being focus fired? Yet a thief can do just that by shadow stepping?
How about when a thief uses shadowstep mid stomp to stomp an ele who mist formed to the side?
How come every other class in the game can’t do what a thief does with stomping/reviving?
This needs fixing. Anyone who does not agree is a player who gets carried by the thief class and get wrecked if they play anything else. Don’t believe me? Dig deep into their previous replies and you’ll find they all play thieves.
Huh..what a coincidence..Who’d’ve thunk it..baddies supporting baddies.
Anet devs messed up big time with the thief class and other game devs will snicker whenever they walk into a room or are mentioned. Wonder if the person who came up with the stealth mechanics will ever be hired again.
You are an obvious thief-hater so whatever. Is stealth strong? yes, it needs to be. Stealth is the bread and butter or thief survival. Stealth stomping can be counter and it often is. I play a thief so i can’t weigh in? I am the most qualified to speak up because i know the weakness of stealth stomping. Of the times i’ve had seemingly clean kills ruined WHILE I AM STOMPING IN STEALTH. Stealth is more op in this game than in others? hardly. Stealth in GW2 punishes those who are inept much worse than in other games i will give you but even decent players do not fret when fighting thieves.
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After i start watching this stream i got a little hope that something will change, and at least we will get some nice info, but after 2 min of stream i lost my hope. AN thinks that abilities on WvW are great, and trying to make them use by players. New orb will completly destroy GvG, and still like half of year till this orb. This is kinda pathetic.
Go play with your ability alone AN. Thx for destroying WvW.
Im done with this game. Everquest NEXT is next target.
It was funny when people started to spam about GvG, AN turned off stream. Well done. You dont care about players at all.
Don’t kid yourself, you would be going to everquest next regardless. Some people just don’t like games and force themselves to play them as they wait for the next one to come and disappoint them.
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EDIT: in the screenshot above he is currently STANDING WHERE WATER SHOULD BE (via the mini-map) but is on a new “Colosseum” of sort which works towards Bloodlust in the Borderlands (new name for Orb?)
Oh my gosh..they changed 1 small area on the map.. You call THAT a new map?
Well the lake is not really a small area since it dominates the mid and beginning portion of the southern areas of the map, but no it is not a new map.
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it could but even that would allow for open field fighting given proper organization.
WTB commander tag system worth a kitten .
What organization? Call target? Mumble? Really?
Yes call target and voice coms. Does the commander system need a revamp or update? yes but that doesn’t mean the use of guild groups, squad chat, voice coms, and call target are not a form of organization albeit how crude it is
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No new map.
Nothing about GvG
Adding sPVP into WvW
No Golem Mastery (hehe)
Well done…. good way to kill the WvW.
No need for new maps when we have space in the old maps that needs to be used.
You know GvG has nothing to do with WvW its a crated thing by the players and it may be best to keep GvG out of WvW in the long run.
WvW is about capping points its the same as in Spvp just in WvW you have a wall to help you most of the time its kind of nice for the open filed ppl to have open filed objectives that are more then just wxp etc…
You kind of have Golem Mastery as is just worth a lot of points max guard def / attk effects Golems.
New maps or at least updated map aesthetics would be hugely appreciated by a great deal of people.
GvG has everything to do with WvW because it affects WvW in its current organization.
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The 3 points should open DF – > A place to farm Real Coin for WvW’ers w/o taking out the WORLD VS WORLD.
It would also be a place for PVE’r’s to ~want~ to go to, while giving us PvP’ers a place to farm PvE’ers.
I strongly feel the WvW team really doesn’t understand what the WvW Population wants and this “content update” is nothing more than a band-aid.
I do think WvW needs a darkness falls area openable by say, holding garri and all 5 ruins? portal shows up in garri? It would be like the obsidian sanctum and have pvp enabled but be a place where a lot of money could be made.
I do like the reorganization of the orb mechanic though because it will lend itself to both small-group play and forcing people out of keeps if the buff is done right.
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I would like to add that they likely skipped over the questions about bloodlust and the objectives because they are unsure all the details in their final implementation. Though if they didn’t want questions they shouldn’t have shown any of it, just saying.
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-ram mastery
-5 new ranks in repair mastery
-reinforcement mastery
-New siege in WvW is a possibility but not an immediate item on the table.
-Masteries will continue being added.
-Rank max is diamond legend at 10k ranks
-Bloodlust in the borderlands is the new “Orb” mechanic. It doesn’t not have a release date yet. 5 objectives in the borderlands lake, 3 of them give an orb buff if held together.
-Clarification that treb mastery 5 drains 10 supply per shot.
-Treb mastery 4 drops 20 sec healing zone and water field.
I will expand the list as more is seen, please discuss these changes below.
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being immune to damage doesn’t stop you from knocking them down or fearing them.
if they stealth stomp, you cant hit them, you cant knock them down and if you fear them they run off in stealth then just come back and stealth again.
how do you even hide in front of a guy you want to stab in the face?
“downed player> Oww my head hurts, mm I must be seeing things, what is this shadowy figure standing over me, mm whats he going to do? I know, I will ignore it. UURRRK” <blood spatter>
you can hit and knock down stealth players. the best way to counter stealth is to learn about it.
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^^
Dude, its a video game. Of course 90% of the people on it are there for some mindless entertainment. We then revert to a thing known by the locals as “real life” and pursue our true passions.
funny part is, we can accomplish this is 2-3 hours spent after work a night. I never said devote endless amounts of time…lol. These games are so easy.
RL of course is more important, it just fun to come home from work, and absolutley demolish people. We never even play weekends, just weeknights. The guy asked my definition of a true pvper.
And you think these kinds of people have left GW2?
Now that right there is what we call “A Gooooo Won” (translation a good one).
That kind of player bought the game, played it, realized its a WARhammer remake filled again with $$$ spending 8 year olds….tried pvp, realized its AoE cap and downed state caters to bad players being able to win, to keep the games population up because they get to “win” fights theyd lose in other games….and Gaaaabye, they left.
If you dont believe me, read through this thread and count all the times people said “I knew some people, who have now left”
There is ZERO competition in this game. ZERO competitive natured people. Sitting on an AC for 3 hours or some treb isnt competitive, its lazy and boring. Hence the 8 yr old can do this reference.
I deleted my post because i combed through your history and felt it wrong to try and put words in your mouth.
If you find that the floor is lifted up by downed state and aoe cap then that is a call for you to play better to out-do the bads who have mechanical support.
There are plenty of competitive natured people still in WvW, a lot of US are frustrated by the current metas. We who remain keep challenging ourselves while advocating for Anet to move the game in ways that we think will promote competition and challenge. I don’t personally sit and sift through the forums arguing and pontificating but i do consult and speak with those who do. There are plenty of pvpers like you describe still here, i will agree we are the minority but that doesn’t mean you have to turn a blind eye to us.
“plenty of competitive natured people still in WvW” competing against Doors and Oh, sorry NPC’s too…We compete against people.
And we don’t? Seriously there are plenty of people in my small group of WvW friends that make a concerted effort to seek challenges and improve our play against OTHER PEOPLE. I don’t believe anything can be had between you and i, i have the sincere impression that you are far too jaded.
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^^
Dude, its a video game. Of course 90% of the people on it are there for some mindless entertainment. We then revert to a thing known by the locals as “real life” and pursue our true passions.
funny part is, we can accomplish this is 2-3 hours spent after work a night. I never said devote endless amounts of time…lol. These games are so easy.
RL of course is more important, it just fun to come home from work, and absolutley demolish people. We never even play weekends, just weeknights. The guy asked my definition of a true pvper.
And you think these kinds of people have left GW2?
Now that right there is what we call “A Gooooo Won” (translation a good one).
That kind of player bought the game, played it, realized its a WARhammer remake filled again with $$$ spending 8 year olds….tried pvp, realized its AoE cap and downed state caters to bad players being able to win, to keep the games population up because they get to “win” fights theyd lose in other games….and Gaaaabye, they left.
If you dont believe me, read through this thread and count all the times people said “I knew some people, who have now left”
There is ZERO competition in this game. ZERO competitive natured people. Sitting on an AC for 3 hours or some treb isnt competitive, its lazy and boring. Hence the 8 yr old can do this reference.
I deleted my post because i combed through your history and felt it wrong to try and put words in your mouth.
If you find that the floor is lifted up by downed state and aoe cap then that is a call for you to play better to out-do the bads who have mechanical support.
There are plenty of competitive natured people still in WvW, a lot of US are frustrated by the current metas. We who remain keep challenging ourselves while advocating for Anet to move the game in ways that we think will promote competition and challenge. I don’t personally sit and sift through the forums arguing and pontificating but i do consult and speak with those who do. There are plenty of pvpers like you describe still here, i will agree we are the minority but that doesn’t mean you have to turn a blind eye to us.
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A few days ago, a [Pink] Necro danced on me after 9001 TC ran over 5-6 [AoN].
I haven’t slept since =/
You should write a book.
Chapter 1: My Jimmies
My tale begins with my delicate jimmies. They had never been rustled before. All of that changed one fateful day in The Eternal Battlegrounds.
I followed my courageous guild leader deep into territory owned by the Tarnished Coasters. However, I underestimated the extent of their evil and wicked ways.
…to be continued.
Where can i pre-order it?
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Evil? they aren’t evil, they are just bads. I just wanted y’all to be aware that you should up your game, but apparently that’s too much to ask for. Oh well.
Says the person posting because people laughed at him. Looks like you’re the one that should up your game if you can’t beat “bads”.
I beat baddies all the time, but i just don’t have enough time to sit and kill 9 of them back to back. I’m a very busy individual.
So you don’t have time time, so you can’t do it. Sounds like you’ve got a case of the can’tbeatbadsitis.
Difference between having the capacity to and having the means to. Next?
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Evil? they aren’t evil, they are just bads. I just wanted y’all to be aware that you should up your game, but apparently that’s too much to ask for. Oh well.
Says the person posting because people laughed at him. Looks like you’re the one that should up your game if you can’t beat “bads”.
I beat baddies all the time, but i just don’t have enough time to sit and kill 9 of them back to back. I’m a very busy individual.
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And no i am not mad, thanks for your concern though.
Are you sure? But those evil mags laughed at you in a video game, that’s outrageous! Can you tell us their guild tags?
Evil? they aren’t evil, they are just bads. I just wanted y’all to be aware that you should up your game, but apparently that’s too much to ask for. Oh well.
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You’re still here? Hating? You have ZERO positive feedback, just criticisms. You should step back, try something else, gain some perspective. You shouldn’t keep playing something you hate so much.
I have stepped back. I quit mmo’s for 5 years. I came back here because of the masterful marketing job of “The first tri-faction open pvp platform in ages”.
Guess what, the mechanics were designed for 8 year olds to beg mom and dad for their CC just like every other mmo since daoc.
Guess what happened to 8 year olds in daoc…they got SMOKED by dudes who have been gaming for years. Thats how it should be. There should be high barriers to entry for top level gaming to occur. GW2 made it so that a sloth, a blind kid, and an emo chick in college could win fights due to abusing Anets poor mechanics, and come on here and shoot the you know what to everyone else.
SInce we left last week we havent touched it. And wont. I come on here because I love that the forums have become more of a train wreck than they were 5 months ago, and deservedly so. Why people dont want to hold designers accountable is beyond me. Their product sucks, just like when something with my iphone breaks, I want it fixed and restored. Anet says, sorry, we got your Cizzzassssh$$$ cant help ya.
Seems as though you’re the one who’s ignorant of the facts. I rode the hype train for two years hunting down even the most minute nuggets of information even if they were written in German (Google Translate FTW). I could bring you up to speed, but to put it simply, Arena Net failed to achieve their intended design, and instead of fixing the myriad of problems they chose to just ignore them and push out biweekly piles of unchallenging nonsense so even the idiots could watch bars fill up and get shiny things.
You say dramatic, I say being honest. Not everyone expresses them-self with elevated diction. More often than not I just use a few select four letter words to get my point across, so consider this the most civilized and coherent form of complaint structure.
I have been around since GW1 beta’s and I have had design decisions changed on me from even back then. While I don’t like it, I never have and don’t need you to educate me on what is missing from the game especially since I am a GW1 beta player and if anyone had the script flipped it is us YET I can still express my grievances with some civility civility civility civility….if you think that requires elevated diction….Jesus HP Christ I don’t know what to say to you but maybe it just requires your mothers and a belt.
For all you people who are in denial about the way you act on these forums, there is a reddit post pointing to this very thread and almost every single comment is about how toxic you are and why people stay away from these forums in particular and prefer alternate sites for the guild wars community we have in addition to agreeing with you and the complaints you express so poorly. Get your Tassimo’s out and wake up, you are the vocal minority.
You honestly believe sitting at your computer for one second that typing this “read reddit, those guys dont like you so self reflect and repent” is going to make me like the kitten pvp platform wvw is?
You think your little “self reflect children” and “ive been around since GW1 Beta” talk is gonna make any of us more susceptible to what you have to say?
Buddy, alot of us have “been around” since daoc, UO, hell even EQ….please dont act like your swinging anything big by tossing out GW1. GW2 is a joke. It is like Anet PAID their customers to come play. And they hunted “just like every other mmo” all the 80% carebears out there because they pay the bills….
THERE IS ZERO COMPETITION IN GW2. ZERO. Couldnt be less.
The carebears are now trying to GvG. LOL I bet 95% of those players for the past year were zerging. Their bored because there’s been no new content so FINALLY they wanna pvp. LOL we came into the game a year ago with the mentality of only fighting players. 8 year olds can take towers, sentries, and sit on AC’s and Trebs….and yet for the past year I’ve watched adults brag about that. Please dont try and have me “self reflect” my bitterness towards hello kitty island.
So everyone but yourself are carebears? They are players still in this game working to improve their play, find challenges, and master their craft- but what they aren’t true pvpers? Because why? They don’t kowtow to your mandates on what is and isn’t?
You want a challenge but you refuse to challenge yourself, you are just as bad as those “carebears” though you have the audacity to try and separate yourself from them.
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Anyhoo, God willing …. the live stream and animal control use the same ip address.
You only make sense about half the time.
It is pretty simple. Deliver and the negative posting goes away. Devon has yet to deliver. WxP is regarded mostly as broken siege toys and not something to really move the game mode forward. It’s been 5 months.
Also is this the reddit thread you’re so upset about? Hi reddit!
I am under the impression that those in your camp cannot be satisfied. You want something unattainable or something already past. Sure you’ll say you only what x,y, and z, but if you are ever given them suddenly the terms change. A lot of people in this anti-Devon crowd are in the business of complaining.
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Mag may i suggest you get better at playing before you laugh on someones corpse from a 9v1. Of course i don’t expect you to cause you know, it’s maguuma we are talking about here.
Laughing over and jumping on a corpse is not a boast about skill, it’s a taunt to make people mad enough to complain or post about it. I see it’s still working.
So you admit Mag is skill-less? thanks, that was all i wanted
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Mag may i suggest you get better at playing before you laugh on someones corpse from a 9v1. Of course i don’t expect you to cause you know, it’s maguuma we are talking about here.
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There is a difference between airing your complaints and being petulant.
There is a time threshold between airing complaints and becoming frustrated. You either haven’t been playing WvW for very long or your expectations for it were far lower than the rest of us. Being ignored, or worse … being bullkittened with endless “soons” … leads to petulance from the most patient of us. If we still actually give a kitten, that is. Anybody who progressed past petulance has left the building.
No i am frustrated, i just choose to conduct myself better than many in this thread. We need more WvW objectives, more maps, new maps, more ways to assault and defend, GvG areas, new guild features, but i will discuss their merits and advocate for them rather than kick and scream that this game sucks …
How long have you been doing that (seriously, I’d like to know) and how has that passive advocacy worked for you? I’m not sure I consider tolerance for being totally ignored a virtue.
i general it is the means i try and uphold in every game i’ve played since shortly after WAR launched. And how effective has it been? Not demonstrably more effective than throwing a fit, but at least this way we can actually have a conversation.
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I’ll tell you what, with the way Anet is handling this game, it’s making me take sub games into serious consideration because at least they know when they kitten up they lose sure money. They can’t afford to market the game as one thing then decide after launch they don’t know what kind of the game they want it to be.
That doesn’t stop them from doing much worse than Anet though, see Swtor and WAR.
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You think the CU guys would come out and say we don’t want the “casual” (and that word has different meanings for different people so I will clarify: those who want to win pressing 3 buttons, win without actually thinking, and having achievements handed to them like 99% of the community) 80% of the mmo market, we want to capture the 20% dissatisfied more hardcore / focused % of the mmo market if they were going to deliver a tri-faction open world system like gw2?
Gw2 is basically WAR with 3 factions instea of 2. You’re going to be playin this game with people who want more sparkles in the air and who enjoy sitting on a treb with one button for 4+ hours in RL……
Yes. Yes I will enjoy the hell out of Daoc 2.
I never trust what game developers say only what they release. WAR taught me better than to listen to people pitching games and content.
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There is a difference between airing your complaints and being petulant.
There is a time threshold between airing complaints and becoming frustrated. You either haven’t been playing WvW for very long or your expectations for it were far lower than the rest of us. Being ignored, or worse … being bullkittened with endless “soons” … leads to petulance from the most patient of us. If we still actually give a kitten, that is. Anybody who progressed past petulance has left the building.
No i am frustrated, i just choose to conduct myself better than many in this thread. We need more WvW objectives, more maps, new maps, more ways to assault and defend, GvG areas, new guild features, but i will discuss their merits and advocate for them rather than kick and scream that this game sucks and i am going to go leave it for the next kitten game on the market
Guess what “choosing to conduct yourself better” gets you…..
A game that’s as easy as Mario cart…. And supply mastery. Enjoy thinking what youre doing is challenging. Good luck if you ever decide to play a game that has real pvp.
You do make a point in the fact that there are people kicking and screaming. Even that doesn’t make changes. Who would bet money that when the mass exodus happens (because it’s well on its way just slower because no other real open pvp games to play) Anet miraculously comes out with some radical change to their platform??? Anyone ever seen this scenario before?
Did i say that i think what i am doing is challenging. And what is real pvp? hmm stand click mmos? There can’t be anything had of a conversation when you dictate to me what i am saying when i haven’t even come close to saying anything of the sort. Have fun in CU and ESO i’ll be laughing when they are just as terrible.
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