Guild Wars 2

Lordrosicky.5813:

Authority.6145:

sid.9870:

well, ever since I had 6-1 I started getting total morons in my team, resulting in 6-7 right now so yeah…

5-1, 6-1 maybe if you are pushing your luck extremely well 7-1. There is no way in hell people go 10-1 without sync.

Well I did so you are wrong sorry.

You just said you sync 3 games. So who is to say that you didn’t sync more games?

sid.9870:

well, ever since I had 6-1 I started getting total morons in my team, resulting in 6-7 right now so yeah…

5-1, 6-1 maybe if you are pushing your luck extremely well 7-1. There is no way in hell people go 10-1 without sync.

When you see people 10-1 11-2 13-3 win/loss rati in solo que beyond stupid that means 100 percent sync.

The amount of thieves I get with me is disgusting. For real yo.

Soloque is one kitten big hotjoin family.

kaplis.7195:

Authority.6145:

We (I) need to see ratings so I can have faith in this randomness. Ratings are still invincible because they are extremely flawed. I HOPE this time I get to be proved wrong and I will definitely give it a go and wait for at least a week to see if there is actually something called matchmaking.

I think this is pretty important. They said they won’t show us ratings until they “work out the kinks” and what not but it’s been months and still nothing. Gotta ask on SOTG or something.

I honestly think they are trolling us about it.

This lag is killing me.

And thanks Anet for including Skyhammer. Genius decisions as always.

stof.9341:

Authority.6145:

stof.9341:

Authority.6145:

I want a good matchmaking system like it is with other games. I want people who don’t care about soloque to stay at a place for ever. I don’t come to WvW or to PvE and mess about.

The SoloQ uses a reset leaderboard it’s common knowledge. As such, all the players in soloQ count as unranked new players. It’s NORMAL that the first dew days you’ll get messy completely random teams. It’s in no way a proof that the matchmaking system doesn’t work or doesn’t even exist, just that it is still collecting information on the participants.

The same thing was said about the old leaderboards. From my 1500-1600 overall tournament games in which 10% where with pugs/premades (thus 90% soloque) there was never a day or a period of time where MMR was factored even though Arena Officially stated otherwise that “it was working as intended….give it some time to stabilize”

We (I) need to see ratings so I can have faith in this randomness. Ratings are still invincible because they are extremely flawed. I HOPE this time I get to be proved wrong and I will definitely give it a go and wait for at least a week to see if there is actually something called matchmaking.

Funny, I found the matchmaking gave me on average same skill players in my team and as opponents. There was a few odd cases sure but it’s to be expected when you search in low traffic times.

For reference, at which leaderboard rank are you? The TeamQ leaderboard I mean. The quality of matchmaking car vary greatly depending on where you are ranked.

I was in the old team one. My highest positioning was 300. My lowest was 70. Right now I am at 95%. Yesterday I faced against (for the X times) a top 100 premade sitting at 96%. I hope I answer your question though I didn’t really understand it.

Alkaholic.3875:

Authority.6145:

Alkaholic.3875:

Again, the pros don’t seem to see this “advantage” and seem to be playing other races. Who’s whining? Hotjoin heros who will never play in the big leagues. Again, what was the asura count in the last game or on the winning team?

What was the total count of asura in both NA and EU?

I won’t tell you to go back every page on this thread and point out the big league players agreeing with banning or normalizing asura

but I am guessing Helseth is the most know hotjoin hero

http://www.twitch.tv/helsethgw2/c/2696189

You have no position to call people hot join heroes when something as this is as blatant and as no brainer as 1+1=2.

Try to use your brain more next time.

Put a human necro at max range w/ a insta cast well and it would be the same effect. Plus he wants castbars. I’m gonna politely disagree w/ him.

Humans are OP too, there will be 5 humans and 5 asura at PAX. /s

So your argument is because at max range you can’t see anything therefore

Asura is not an issue?

Talking about logic right?

When every top player (since you don’t know clearly their opinions) state otherwise for obvious reasons and generally every common-sense player knows what is what you will just go against the flow for the sake of it.

Make me a video of the biggest character available vs the smallest Asura.

Now stop embarrassing your self.

We need more opinions.

Alkaholic.3875:

Again, the pros don’t seem to see this “advantage” and seem to be playing other races. Who’s whining? Hotjoin heros who will never play in the big leagues. Again, what was the asura count in the last game or on the winning team?

What was the total count of asura in both NA and EU?

I won’t tell you to go back every page on this thread and point out the big league players agreeing with banning or normalizing asura

but I am guessing Helseth is the most know hotjoin hero

http://www.twitch.tv/helsethgw2/c/2696189

You have no position to call people hot join heroes when something as this is as blatant and as no brainer as 1+1=2.

Try to use your brain more next time.

stof.9341:

Authority.6145:

I want a good matchmaking system like it is with other games. I want people who don’t care about soloque to stay at a place for ever. I don’t come to WvW or to PvE and mess about.

The SoloQ uses a reset leaderboard it’s common knowledge. As such, all the players in soloQ count as unranked new players. It’s NORMAL that the first dew days you’ll get messy completely random teams. It’s in no way a proof that the matchmaking system doesn’t work or doesn’t even exist, just that it is still collecting information on the participants.

The same thing was said about the old leaderboards. From my 1500-1600 overall tournament games in which 10% where with pugs/premades (thus 90% soloque) there was never a day or a period of time where MMR was factored even though Arena Officially stated otherwise that “it was working as intended….give it some time to stabilize”

We (I) need to see ratings so I can have faith in this randomness. Ratings are still invincible because they are extremely flawed. I HOPE this time I get to be proved wrong and I will definitely give it a go and wait for at least a week to see if there is actually something called matchmaking.

alcopaul.2156:

Authority.6145:

alcopaul.2156:

Solo Q is Solo Q. It’s random. 1 match and after that the team breaks apart. it doesn’t matter if you group with same ranks or your rank discrepancy is huge. it’s like a one night stand. either you get some good kitten and you get some bad kitten

TeamQ———————-> if you complain

So your argument is if I complain I go TeamQ?

No thanks.

I am playing the game like you play the game, so I will stick in here and complain.

You basically want SoloQ to be TeamQ reading from the generic complaints. So as if nothing happened with the update.

SoloQ has elements that sets it apart from TeamQ. if you want soloq to be teamQ, there is still teamQ.,

You are completely wrong.

I want a good matchmaking system like it is with other games. I want people who don’t care about soloque to stay at a place for ever. I don’t come to WvW or to PvE and mess about.

Have you played other games?

Cause really if you are defending this you are either ignorant or being paid by Arenanet.

alcopaul.2156:

Solo Q is Solo Q. It’s random. 1 match and after that the team breaks apart. it doesn’t matter if you group with same ranks or your rank discrepancy is huge. it’s like a one night stand. either you get some good kitten and you get some bad kitten

TeamQ———————-> if you complain

So your argument is if I complain I go TeamQ?

No thanks.

I am playing the game like you play the game, so I will stick in here and complain. I am not a godam conformist like you.

But how will you fix being paired with

Hotjoiners
Pvers
Daily-runners
Low-ranks

I think we should have started with ranks being paired (10 scale) and then after <insert period of time> start off with rating matching

If we had leagues most of the people who play solo que for fun or to gain something and thats it (daily) would be stuck in a certain league.

Not implying that low ranks < high ranks but you can never take away the experience from a high rank and ignore it (lets not get into a long debate about it, you know what I mean and I don’t mean any disrespect to any type of player).

People start off equally but difference in ranks counters that equality. I am just trying to see how people who WANT to progress will do that and won’t be paired with the list of players above. Apologies, but quite frankly I am very skeptical.

So let me get this straight.

We don’t have soloque leaderboard yet?
There is no reset?
Random rank matching instead of having a 10 scale matching (0-10,20-30,40-50 ect) or elo/rating matching?

Not impressed. I will still soloque later on but what a big letdown.

By the way why should we wait for it to stabilize? We are not applying evolution in here. It is not hard to implement a good formula for great matchmaking.

Anyone noticed any abusive things?

Anyone has tried soloque yet?

What I really do not like about this game (which this meta only reaffirmed) are four things;

• Rerollers,Fotms
• X Teams Copying Y Team Comp (i.e latest double rangers)
• Players exiting and/or quitting their classes without reason (i.e elementalists are not viable)
• Generally ignorance from experience – either from their own class (i.e D/P is not viable i.e Engineers will be replaced by Necromancers)

Meta is not the issue, it will always be a side effect .
.
For example,

if we didn’t see S/D + Shortbow Thief we would still be talking about S/D + S/D Thief being Godmode even though I broke the class enough on my previous post that it lacks ALOT in comparison with other classes/weapon set, to seeing it right now with Shortbow as offhand was the smartest decision

• if Caed didn’t go to the finals as D/P we would still be talking about how D/P Thief is not viable
• if Defektive didn’t participate as a CC Warrior we would still be talking about how Warriors are not viable
• if Mogwow didn’t play a Glass Cannon Elementalist we would still be talking about how Elementalists are not viable
• if Teldo didn’t play as a close-far-pointer bunker Engineer we would still be talking about how Engineers are not viable

So basically if you always need a build-hero to make you see the potential of your class then clearly you don’t know your class as well as you think you do (including my self).

This game lacks pride which is ironical considering its unreal elitism. Pride leads to risks, and pride itself is different than ego. I hope in the future we get to see more players taking risks with their classes.

I can’t say I hate this meta because this meta brought some characters with exceptionally strong will power. Different Meta won’t address class uniqueness or revamping ALL classes. Meta might as well switch to more balance but that does not matter.Game is bleeding from far other too many important issues. Meta is just the first side-point of discussion in a TPvP environment.

Anyway, I think I have said what there is to say.

PS1: This is not directed at TC. They took a great risk having two of their players re-rolling to new classes a week before qualifiers but still pull it off.
PS2: Names above were randomly mentioned as a reference for nailing a point.
PS3: If you took my words personally then that means you belong to the list above and you are skipping the purpose of my post.

Do we know what time the update is coming?

ahuba.6430:

Authority.6145:

Spirit Ranger.
High Bunker Condi Mesmer.
Condi Bunker Necro.
Bunker Guardian.
Bunker Elementalist.

what

Meant bunker engineer. Sorry for the mistake.

Spirit Ranger.
High Bunkerisj Condi Mesmer.
Condi Bunkerish Necro.
Bunker Guardian.
Bunker Engineer.

Draedark.8193:

Whatever the build meta ends up being will be interesting for sure. I myself have a sustained damage ranger build that has proven to be a lot of fun in hotjoin that I plan on trying in SoloQ.

My biggest question is will the leader board rank still be contingent on winning the match or will it be based on personal score or some combination thereof?

I am of the school that it should be based on match wins, though I know that some may not agree with that.

Win Ratio like Warcraft 3?

kito.1827:

1.Read or go to school and learn to read.
2.How is it backfired?

Your trolling skills are disgusting. Try harder youletdown.

Excellent discussion so far. Keep it up.

So what is your experience with Soloque so far? Comments? Expectations? Ways for players to abuse the system?

sinzer.4018:

Authority.6145:

If I wanted to pick Valkyrie or Cleric which one would I go with considering the buff on healing signet?
Is it ever worth using Arcing Slice over Skull Crack?

According to the patch notes:
At level 80, this skill goes from 392 healing per 3 seconds to 467 healing per 3 seconds with 1500 healing power.

I dont think it’s worth the drastic decrease in damage to go clerics.

as for the topic at hand, i’ve given my own variant of this a go but to be honest i much prefer to use sword due to the added mobility and i swear loads of people don’t realise they’re immobilised until its too late.

So basically with 1.100 healing power I assume 420 healing per second every 3 seconds = total 2.3 total heal every 16 seconds

Interesting.. Now I am starting to get why some people said that it is better sometimes not to use that signet and just let the passive do its job unless its a standard S.O.S case

Started from the bottom now we here.

The argument of population is too low has been the same argument since beta (I would like to think that). That argument is just plainly stupid.

You won’t increase population by;

a.Doing nothing.
b.Changing nothing.
c.Waiting for years of nothingness to make it happen.

People come back to a game because there is INCENTIVE. People won’t wait for a small cliche of esporting to happen and then decide lets go back. The casual gamer (either being competitive by playing a few hours per day/week or generally being non-competitive) wants to play a game where he has the freedom to play the game at whatever point without thinking he is completely left behind (Gear-based mmorpgs where gear is achieved from grinding for months)

Anyway, I do not want to side track further. The best group experience (different modes; 2v2, unraked games, ect, solo progression, solo with a friend, you name it) is currently still being done by League of Legends to my knowledge.

MMO games and not just mmorpgs need to understand that they got to take care of a wide range of players’ spectrum when it comes to solo or group experience. Gamers these days can, will and do punish games and companies for catering to a very niche type of solo/group experience.

I would be more than happy to have ALL the things that LoL offers adjusted to an mmorpg.

#CaedthankyouforbelievinginD/P Sync vs USA 2-1! Great match.

Great plays by USA and Great fighting spirit from Envy! 2-0 USA proceeds.

Now its Team USA vs Team Blacklisted [Envy]!

I want back my money Defektive. And I want them back with blood,sweat and tears.

SYNC won MMSE by 2-0.

Now its VvV vs NRK!

In one hour and 30m second day is going to start.

Re-do all trait lines for all classes and reduce them; i.e power-precision-critchance in one trait line and not this irrational state of i.e power + condition. Also remove idiotic traits which are easily to spot on for all classes.

Schedule & Timezone; including brackets

http://i.imgur.com/jPxlz7i.png
http://binarybeast.com/xGW21307300

If you want super amazing reaction times to break the world record of guinness then you gotta get jiggy with the steortypes and replace the sheep with the attachment.

Get on my level son.

JonathanSharp.7094:

We (Anet) didn’t actually have anything to do w/ the brackets.

Congrats to RNG and AL for facing off today in the quarterfinals, and good luck to AL and all of tomorrow’s combatants!

Is the time for tomorrow the same as today?

uberkingkong.8041:

tichorum.2415:

ThatShortGuy.4672:

Great matches today! The last two matches for AL was the true test. Hopefully AL can keep going.

A lot of the matches today we’re very tame compare to EU matches.

If you think that was a true test, wait for them to play the winner of the bottom bracket… it’s stacked.

Agreed.

@Authority No hate for AL, its just they had really easy games and because of it, it makes them look like they got a freebee to the finals.

The people at the bottom brackets are actually going though some competition, so people are going to be cheering for them.

Not AL fault, bad matchmaking by anet hue hue hue.

I don’t know enough about the NA scene to have a view on whether it was a deliberate fixed easy ride for AL, but if it is genuinely not their fault there is absolutely no reason to disrespect them like that cause there is no ground of accuse or basis.

Its like you expect them to come out and apologize for being bracketed just because it looks bad on them. RNG and Goon from what I saw gave a respectable fight.

Anyway, at the end of the day everything will be settled tomorrow.

There is so much hate against Absolute Legends. Why is that?

Man up and act your age. I guess some of you forgot your age and gotta step outside the real world to be reminded.

We will definitely see the material of “top NA” tomorrow. So you better put your money where your mouth is when the time comes.

Congratulations to Absolute Legends.

Absolute continues its dominance. 2-0 over Pleasure.

Wrong post in wrong thread.

Walorx.5129:

Authority.6145:

Why is not Cruuk not participating? Why did he get banned?

So many questions.
Too little time.
Life is short.

NA goes wild again.

My team (cruuk is with us) isn’t eligible to compete because I’m only 17 and Reikou lives in Japan.

This is a very unpleasant surprise. I was really forward to see you guys. Very fun team to watch on streams as well.

Anyway, hope you guys continue.

Das Goon rain (Reign) on my parade.

Now its Absolute vs Pleasure!

Mammoth.1975:

Lotta guys in here seem mad about the flirting thing.

I am a girl too.
Married too.
But married to the Game.

#Swag

Why is not Cruuk not participating? Why did he get banned?

So many questions.
Too little time.
Life is short.

NA goes wild again.

Oh that #Duke from Pleasure.

Last Resort were taken out from Absolute Legends!

Join the Drama.

See Jon Peters pressing enter every kitten minute to type one sentence!

JonathanSharp.7094:

The actual stream starts at 12:30 PST!

I have got two words for you;

Do you #believeinMesmer? Do you smell what the Rock is cooking?