Guild Wars 2

Dude what is this dope song after 8m?

So many girls in here.

drools

Why do some warriors play with more stances and others with more sigils? What are the arguments for and against?

redslion.9675:

Shinju.1083:

This guild is only for girls.

That’s sexist.

(joking XD)

Shinju.1083:

I am a married woman, and flirting is greatly frowned on. I will not reply to those who flirt.

Are there people who really do it?

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How long before the tournament starts?

BurrTheKing.8571:

This build is more reactionary than most other classes. Instead of focusing on your own combo you’re more interested in disrupting theirs. You can chain Shield Bash – 1 mace swing – Skull Crack – Switch to GS – 100b – (wait for the dodge that typically follows) – Whirlwind – Bladetrail. Typically though, the first Shield Bash will bait out their stun breakers/stability. It’ll probably take a Bash and a Crack before you can actually use the full combo however.

Thanks a lot.

I like this version of it.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNApeRjkOpwBPGPMxBAkirq6oQJmUPsbu4A-TsAA0CvICSFkLITQygsBNIYRwEBA

So I have got a couple more questions.

If I wanted to pick Valkyrie or Cleric which one would I go with considering the buff on healing signet?
Is it ever worth using Arcing Slice over Skull Crack?

Its not hard to fix this phenomenon. Unless Arena net wants to have only 500 players with each player having a second (third) account.

Each time a player (s) groups up with another new player (s) then he will start off with a new rating. Like League of Legends or how it was with Warcraft 3.

This system is beyond stupidity and in no way does it reflect true positioning.

At the moment the only people that deserve to be anywhere in there are ONLY people that have been playing with only main accounts with other people with main accounts which in essence is no one except few exceptions (questionable).

Do we know what time it starts tomorrow?

Can someone please give me tips and tricks with this build including rotations? I want to be able to play two classes really well since soloque leaderboard is coming up so I want to start practicing as soon as possible.

Someone told me that sigil of blood is bugged and it only works every 5 seconds.

My question is this;

Which one is better?

25/15 or 10/30?

I am starting to love a lot Runes of Ogre. Go rock dog!

So wait those brackets are not the right ones?

http://binarybeast.com/xGW21307300

ThatShortGuy.4672:

Godofallu.2935:

If anyone gets information on what teams will be playing who and when I would like to know. A pm with a bracket link (that is not blank) would be great.

I’m pretty sure my team was the lucky 32’nd. Mighty morphing stock exchangers or something like that is our randomly chosen on the spot name apparently.

Odd. The wiki brackets were filled in. I guess someone removed the teams.

Suspicious change is suspicious.

Valkyriez.6578:

Abusing what exactly? Are you saying that having a second account needs to be in some way monitored or policed?

Show me one game where people buy second accounts to maintain their position.

What is Arenanet’s official stance on that issue? Does Arenanet agree with how players abuse it? Is it something everybody should be doing or aiming to do?

Tyler Chapman.1832:

GL to all participating! Can’t wait to tune in

Can’t wait to see if NA has any tricks up its sleeves for this meta.

NA does always things differently.We are going to see

a.CC Warrior
b.Aggressive Far-pointer Thief
c.Someone who #believesinMesmer

And hopefully much more!

Defektive.7283:

Parisalchuk.9230:

Defektive.7283:

XD thanks for the confidence guys. We’re working hard to get everything lined up correctly.

We played last night for the first time in a week and it was roouuughhh. But who cares we do this for fun :P

Have you guys played your Mist League matches for the week? I would like you to beat a certain team you play this week

They going to stream it? If yes what time?
We have one tonight and one tomorrow (friday).

When the solo-que comes, I am probably going to wait for threads to kick off regarding that. If I can’t hold my self I am probably going to start up and create a warrior since I always wanted to see that class to the end and now it is just a good excuse to do so.

Also garethh – soloque will definitely attract 80-85% of the TPvP population.

Godofallu.2935:

My team fell apart due to everyone quitting because of Necro meta. Then my backup team just had too many people and decided it wasn’t worth fracturing the group by cutting down to a main 5.

I honestly really wanted to show up and at least smash a few teams before struggling in the semi/finals. I’ve beaten tops teams before with random friends and know I could climb pretty high in the brackets. I’ll have to find 2-3 great players and talk them into grouping with me within the next few days or I won’t be able to compete which would be a shame. I don’t expect to win but I want to compete.

I honestly think meta or not its not about that (generally speaking). I have personally got days where I am too bored to move my fingers. They really need to revamp classes, traits, sigils, weapon sets, utilities, elites and tone some stuff down but that is another story.

I hope in the end you will participate as well. I am extremely looking forward to see the NA one. Always more interesting, entertaining than EU which is boring, stale and unimaginative.

Defektive.7283:

Authority.6145:

Defektive.7283:

I wouldn’t put your money on us considering our 5th can’t even play and we’re scrambling to find a new one.

Half our team can’t even play right now either – one doesn’t have internet for the last 2 days, the other’s computer broke.

Things look grim.

That is grim. I really hope that you will be able to pull it off and everything goes to your favor in the end. Hope dies last.

By the way have you got new tournament material to upload on your twitch? Really enjoyed watching that 2.30h video.

We havnt played due to all hardware failures, we’re looking to pick it back up tonight – we also have ML matches to do.

May stream depending on how rusty everyone is.

Edit: On another note, look how schweet I look:

Did you guys pick it up already?

By the way this was excellent stuff;
http://www.twitch.tv/soacgaming/c/2653837

I watched it today and played a couple of matches and I was fighting a couple of necros I noticed protection popping up with their spectral armor. Haven’t payed attention to that and only did due to watching that show.

My damage/burst/backstab on D/P was nullified to say the least every time they would pop up.

DanzelOPP.5068:

How about nerfing necro damage and giving them more sustain like they should have gotten in the last patch.

Well hopefully in the next balance patch things are going to be x100 times better.

I still think giving all/most classes access to all/most conditions, boons, stealth, you name it is beyond stupidity.

I also strong believe in TPvP each class should have two major viable builds according to reasoning.

Rating was already flawed since the introduced it regardless how the calculated. They need to reset everything and start fresh.

I believe this is an interesting build as well.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgAQNArfWlwzKqHTTnGb9IhZGEH5oZcdvTShqfNA-TsAAzCpIaS1krJTTymsNNqYVxUAA

Phase Retreat – 6 seconds.
Phantasm Warlock – 10 seconds.
Phantasmal Mage – 18 seconds.
Decoy – 24 seconds.
Blink – 24 seconds.
Illusion of Life – 100 seconds

Cooldown reduction on Mesmer’s Tree is a wowfactor.

By the way 6x Runes of the Undead vs 4x Runes of Nightmare + 2x Runes of Lysa?

It is still incomplete.

Before the match starts you should be able to

Change class as requested.
Change build as requested.
Save builds for each class.
Being matched with soloquers – enemies of similar leaderboad positioning
Have a website to know that a player with X class has got % of win/loss rate.
Have a website with the MOST viable builds according to each patch changes.

There is no other game that provides solo-duo que experience as good as League of Legends right now.

People enter and chose a class and talk about their role.
Before the match begins people adjust their build and are able to save them.
If two people want to pick the same class/role there is a website to compare win/loss ration – lolking
If people are not aware of the latest builds of that class there is a website to get familiarized with them – mobafire.

And they REALLY need to implement duo with solo. Everything above should be requested to have a full group until we are able to have some other types of game mode for 2v2/3v3/4v4.

tichorum.2415:

There are some really good teams that aren’t being talked about anywhere. Guess we’ll see. hint hint

And the mystery begins…

Lupanic.6502:

is there a team overview? Is Ostricheggs playing? If yes, I bet my money on his team.

Ostricheggs is not going to Pax unfortunately.

uberkingkong.8041:

dangit, I only speak Japanese, Chinese, Russian, Arabic, Thai, Filipino and Malaysian but Taiwanese isn’t one of them. drats looks like I’ll be out of luck

Do you speak this?

Arganthium.5638:

Authority.6145:

S/D Thieves are going to dominate PAX.
S/D OP.

I’m going to cry if they’re Jumper specs. His build is just… I mean, I’ve seen worse, but it’s just non optimal. Entirely. It and most other meta builds based on ridiculous biases from both within and without the thief community that have absolutely no objective or factual basis whatsoever.

Well from what I saw S/D Thieves on EU went 10/30/0/30 with S/D+Shortbow. I was about to post that a week ago after talking with Med from Sealclubbers and Lady Nag from Car Crash.

I am having so much fun on DP, hunting down S/D Thieves. Currently waiting for Solo-que Leaderboards.

Though kitten asura.

Defektive.7283:

I wouldn’t put your money on us considering our 5th can’t even play and we’re scrambling to find a new one.

Half our team can’t even play right now either – one doesn’t have internet for the last 2 days, the other’s computer broke.

Things look grim.

That is grim. I really hope that you will be able to pull it off and everything goes to your favor in the end. Hope dies last.

By the way have you got new tournament material to upload on your twitch? Really enjoyed watching that 2.30h video.

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

HS-Spam is viable? since when . . .

Since D/P thieves started focusing S/D thieves and now S/D thieves are asking for a nerf on D/P.

Sarcasm.

Sponsored by #believeinMesmer#
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYpDJw7fThU

Schedule & Timezone; including brackets

http://i.imgur.com/jPxlz7i.png
http://binarybeast.com/xGW21307300

Streaming and Shoutcasting information

North American Qualifying Tournament Shoutcaster and Stream Information
English:

Shoutcasters: Grouch, Blu
Stream link: http://www.twitch.tv/mistleague

French:

Shoutcasters: Prophete, Waffle
Stream link: http://www.twitch.tv/prophetewaffle

German:

Shoutcasters: ChroNickGamer, SteppenWolf
Stream link: http://www.twitch.tv/jianji

Spanish:

Shoutcasters: Necca, Worvast
Stream link: http://www.twitch.tv/gw2spain

Taiwanese:

Shoutcasters: Crispeke, Ishanah
Stream link: http://www.twitch.tv/gw2cbc

So who is going to reach the finals from NA? I will put my money on Team Blacklisted [Envy].

Come on Americans. We love your drama. You love your drama. Let the drama begin!

PS: Do we know which teams will be there? When will the brackets be available?

Special thanks to the comeback of Warriors, credits to the #believe movement

Tonikor.5637:

On a completely unrelated note:

Should players be allowed to MACRO?

/discuss

You guys really think its hard to pull off super fast rotations in this game huh?

God you need to play other games.

Jon Peters.

I have got one question.

Do you #BelieveinMesmer?

Excellent discussion in here. So bumping for the obvious reasons.

Highlight was seeing that Asura Necromancer hiding under the small bridge. That was just priceless.

Which is more OP though?

S/D + S/D Thief or S/D + Shortbow Thief?

Vuh.1328:

Everyone just relax and listen to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvhlMnprQ5Y

I think this song is more relaxing.

Anyway,

What some of you posters clearly refuge to understand and/or intentionally ignore is the way Arenanet has conducted business.

This is not about TP vs CC – TP won fair and square.
This is not about what the average Joe thinks – whether half of the community hates TP and the other half hates CC.

This is an open scandal in which in-game internal affairs were applied with the intention or not of promoting discrimination and favorism by the company of its own game.

#BelieveinMesmer

I have got a couple of questions

a.WHY would they fit in the semi-finals the same day of the qualified matches?
b.WHY was it thought that having an X Team well and rested vs an X team without rest?

And Xeph,

“Regardless if Arenanet wanted us there or not”

Arenanet Officially wanted TP to win. In fact it wants TP to win Pax. Do you understand the damage it does for the game to have the company that created it to want one team to win it? You know why it damages the game?

Side effects,

a. Rumors – The game is balanced the way TP sees balance.
b.Conspiracies – TP started the first day so it could have a day worth of rest.
c.Mistrust – There is no reason to compete with TP because Arenanet will always favor them.

TP proceeded to the finals because they earned it.

However how things were handled raised legit questions which unfortunately find ground because of this disgusting favorism of Arenanet.

And Xeph, it is relevant whether Arenanet favored you or not (which we all know the answer). To think that it is irrelevant or that it is “OK” is such a foul statement. I can’t even believe that you find irrelevant of the fact that the company of this game wants your team to win its own tournament.

If something like this happened in other competitive games, people would have been fired.

You should never mix business with pleasure.

PS: This is NOT good for the game.

Come on Anet.

Kirmora.4976:

whats the password?. or will it unlock near the time

Password is Mesmer is still viable

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josh.7390:

Snip

Lets look at some classes again,

Spiritmaster Ranger,
CC Warrior
S/D Thief
Bunker Engineer

Quiz Time

Do those classes excel in everything?

No. Each classes has got a specific role; Spiritmaster Ranger (Supporter), CC Warrior (Stun locker), S/D Thief (Disturber), Bunker Engineer (Contester)

How can a Mesmer fit in?

Learn to Adapt.

a.Compliment aoe-condtion/direct-condition damage of other classes and support.
b.Drop Greatsword and replace it with Staff.
c.Decide whether you want to use Runes of the Undead or 2x Runes of Lysa + Runes of Nightmare (Amulet will be always Rabid or Carrior to reach 24k HP with 2.7-3k power).
d.
e.Decide HOW you want to support (i.e applying condition pressure +/or utilities your team, aka

Through Staff
Through Staff + utilities (illusion of life/portal, Null Field every 36 seconds),
Through Scepter/Torch
Through Scepter/Torch + utilities
Through Sword Pistol
Through Sword Pistol + utilities

Example of supporting your team through staff

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgAQNArfWlwzKqHTzgGb9IhpHBH5A/kCoLdSKK9rB-TsAAzCpIaS1krJTTymsNNqY9xUAA

HP:17K
Armor: 2.8k
Condition: 1.7k
Boon Duration: 30%
Condition Duration: 20%
Power: 2.1
Critical Chance: 35%
Cooldown Reduction for Staff, Scepter/Torch: 20%

So now you are telling me that will all of that variety (power-shatter-support; 30 on Inspiration + utilities, condition-shatter-support, bunker-condition-support) – which does my heading thinking about it – a mesmer is not viable because for you a mesmer to be viable it needs to be a league on its own; i.e being able to bring

illusion of life + Portal
Superb Aoe-damage
Super power-damage
Superb Aoe-condition damage
Superb Condition-damage
Superb Condition-removal
Superb support (fitting both illusion of life+portal)

ALL in one build. If that ever happens we might as well rename mesmer to Super Saiyan Mesma. Anyway, I am done arguing regarding the viability of a Mesmer. I rest my case.

PS: Everyone is adapting. It is not our issue what weapon sets, what utilities, what sigils, what builds a Mesmer chooses for his/her team.At the end of the day you might as well rely on X player rerolling and keep on pitying your class.

S/D Thieves are going to dominate PAX.
S/D OP.

I am currently moving to staff + scepter torch as well.

Regarding whether 20 on Dominion is worth it; it is crystal clear that it is.

1.Double Condition Duration – 40% percent total condition duration instead of 20%.
2.20% Cooldown Reduction on Torch – Blind, Burning, Retaliation and Confusion every 24 seconds instead of 30 as well as stealth.
3.Removes two conditions every 24 seconds.

Now the hardest part is the rest.

Deceptive Evasion has both great advantages and disadvantages. I would argue that since Mesmers right now need to abuse stealth as much as possible then 20 on Duelist for that is worth every penny on it.

I personally believe the hardest part is the last 30 points. I would argue that how a mesmer spends those are due to his personal gameplay or how he feels he is efficient playing the mesmer.

For instance,

If you want to take fully advantage of “clones” then investing

1.10 on Chaos for clones to apply a condition (s) is non-negotiable.
2.10 on Illusions for confusion to last longer by 33% is non-negotiable as well.

Still it is extremely hard to decide (for me personally) the rest of the 30 points since that is extremely inter-dependent with either your playstyle (amulet, utilities) or your team contribution (what exactly does your team want you to do; i.e more supportive then Null Field every 36 seconds instead of 45).

If you can clarify to me what type of mesmer you want to be in TPvP (i.e full-condi-focused), then I should be able to help you further as well as getting more feedback from extremely experienced mesmers in TPvP.

Evan Lesh.3295:

Guts.4967:

Can you do something for the right click targeting too ? I’m tired of targeting people while i’m clicking on right click on my mouse to change the axe of my camera to see around me.

Targeting should be left click, not right click since we need it to change the camera view and a lot of time it target someone because you need to be fast…

There was an option added a month or two ago to disable interact on right-click.

Mouse targeting is doing some pretty lame things. We have cleaner versions we’re trying out now. Most notably: Selection radii appears to be far too large. Also, you cannot select new targets in front of your current target.

Great stuff Evan but I would like to add something relevant as well.

For instance, this whole thread

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/tech/MOUSE-ATTACK-BOTTON-STOPPED-ATTACKING

Also to add a couple

1.Cursor suddenly disappears and then re-appears.
2.Not able to change the axe of the camera towards left.

Just generally far too many to mention mouse-based issues playing this game; mouse fluidity is sub-par currently if you get what I mean.

Hopefully you will fix all if not most of this issues in one single update.

That necro deserves over 9000 achievement points and of course a unique title.

Sample build of possible ways to remove conditions as a Mesmer
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgAQNAW7fl0zKqHVTkGb9IypHQHzNdkU0avWJF82FC-TgAAzCpIKSVkrITRyisFB

Ways for a mesmer to remove conditions (rounded up or close 30 seconds);

1.Remove two conditions every 30 seconds (using mirror as heal every 15 seconds)
2.Remove two conditions every 25 seconds (using two torch skills)
3.Remove ALL conditions from ALL allies every 36 seconds and remove ALL boons from ALL foes (Null Field)
4.Remove a condition from you and ALL your allies every time you shattered (shattered conditions)
5.Remove ALL conditions every 90 seconds (using runes of Lysa)
6.Remove two conditions every 20 seconds (Mantra of Resolve)

Remember when Elementalists were not viable? Bunker Ele came.
Remember when Thieves got nerfed extremely hard? Sustained Thief came.
Remember when Warriors got nerfed extremely hard? CC Warrior came.
Remember when Necromancers were not viable? Condition Necro came.
Remember when BM ranger was considered worthless? Spiritmaster ranger came.
Remember when Condition Necromancers came and everybody thought Engineer will be replaced? Bunker Engineer came.

Fact is that all mesmers in TPvP are like wet cats. They want to do everything great, excel in all roles without risk. The class itself can produce an outstanding amount of power-condition-support builds or a little bit of all.

PS: Remove cast-time on mantra on resolve.

Shar.3402:

snip (sorry but message body length)

As a side note,

We all agreed that pre-patch power was dominating everything. Now it is the opposite.

As it currently stands regarding power

1.It is sided to either being sustained damage (S/D thief) or applying pressure (i.e CC warrior).
2.One class has got the ability to provide raw and thus burst damage (i.e elementalist with either traited 30 on Air, 20 on Water and 20 on Arcane or 20 or Air, 20 on Water and 30 on Arcana both of them using Valkyrie Amulet).

The good thing is that finally condition specs are in game as well. If we are going to concentrate “easy cheesy” comps, the any other team who was or wanted to spec condition-based team comp would argue back that power-based team comps were easy cheesy as well.

It is an extremely good for the balance, that a class such as a mesmer cannot bring all of that Portal + Illusion of Life + Moah/Stealth and do everything else superb. If you want to talk about broken mechanics and not BS ones like (Stealth Openers) because stealth openers do have counters -> i.e Stealth After, then objectively when it comes to team contribution no other class used to be as broken and superior as a mesmer. If it was able to provide the team with stability to the team then clearly a mesmer would have been a league on its own.

It is then a good thing that now a mesmer have to choose their utilities. Why is that a good thing?

1.It allows other classes to come into game.
2.It allows other classes to replace mesmer’s role – close holder, team supporter, X (power/condition) aoe-damage.

Thirdly regarding the BM ranger comment. Lets compare two X team comps in which one has got one BM ranger and the other doesn’t.

The first team comp would a BM ranger would have obviously the advantage of a very strong-close holder. However its disadvantage would be that in team fights (where everyone gathers in mid-fight) a BM ranger would be standing on a cliff at best sending off his pet while the other team would have the advantage of pulling off more DPS or as soon as they would see that BM ranger that would send a fast roamer to decap his point and then join the rest of his team in mid.

Same thing would happen with a mesmer off-point (far enough from her point) where sometimes she was forced to go back to her point immediately and disengage from mid-fights.

That all comes down to strategies and tactics dictated by team composition. Now if a Team with an X team composition feels that having everyone on mid fast enough counters-logic because their close point will always be contested by i.e a close-holder engineer then they got two options.

1.Be more effective in team fights and rotate faster/outplay them.
2.Send one class to keep him as busy as possible so he doesn’t run off effectively from roaming from close to far like that.

You would bring a mesmer because that can compliment Condition damage (Aoe or Direct depending on weapon sets) and cleanse-conditions-for-groups every 45 seconds with Null Field or 36 seconds with the trait.

Just like S/D thieves, CC warriors, condi-Specked Mesmers are now complimenting other classes or fulfilling a specific role depending on the team comp.

Lets look at the Condi-specked builds.

Balanced Version (See stats)
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgAQRArf8alwzKqHVTrGbNJyJFQn0hqw1RShq9alUwbXIA-TwAAzCpI+S9l7LzXyisFNqYVx+jpAA

Clone Spammer
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgAQRArf8alwzKqHVTrGbNJipCBHaGXX1RqQpVmBvdhA-TwAAzCoI+SVk7LzXyvsFN+YVx+jpAA

Shattering Aoe-Condi damage + Aoe-Condi removal
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgAQNAW8alwzKqHVTrGb9IypHQn0NdoKcdlewbXYuB-TgAAzCpI+S9l7LzXyisFB

Straight up condi
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgAQRArf8alwzKqHVTrGb9IyJFQn0hmx1VdlZwbXIA-TwAAzCpI+S9l7LzXyisFNqYVx+jpAA

Now if you ask me what type of mesmer I would play in a group, I would probably go Staff, Sword/Pistol + Shattering (aoe-condi damage + aoe-condi removal). So more of a supportive-role.

Lastly, before the Pax mesmers will get the adequate buffs 100 percent so no need to really over-exaggerate on viability.

PS: Builds do not belong to me and I have adjusted them as I see fit to get a rough idea (not claiming that everything I changed is the best; i.e some prefer staff over scepter/torch, nor that all are viable).

PS2: Shatter Mesmer builds are still strong. Just bring more condi removal from traits and utilities.
Long version cut short – Mesmers either can go for full spec condi builds (scepter/torch + sword/pistol) or supportive spec condi builds (staff + sword/pistol) with shattering removing conditions from them and for their group.

Authority.6145:

Remove stealth. In fact remove stealth for only the thief thief and let everyone else have stealth.

Let me have the damage output of a real assassin instead.

Feel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJyLRi6TmSE

To summarize,

So you don’t want a thief excelling in DPS.
So you don’t want a thief excelling in mobility.
You don’t want a thief excelling in survivability.

Short version;

You clearly don’t want to have a thief. You want to have your own little version of a wet towel thief. You probably want him to get kited to death while you are in your airplane dropping bombs on him.

I will also make a post regarding the viability of a mesmer.

For the time being, I am pretty sure this thread will lead “If you are a Mesmer reroll to a Necromancer”.

Warriors are popping up and players are rerolling from their mesmers. Guess we have got many players that want to do things easy cheesy fotm.

To continue my previous post.

First of all claiming that a mesmer is not only viable but rerolling to something else is the way to go is absolutely BS.

Let us look closer in which situations a Mesmer will not belong to any meta;

1.When portal and illusion of life is removed from the class.
2.When another classes has portal and illusion of life.
3.When one class has got portal and another class has got illusion of life.
4.When there is nothing unique about the class and everyone can do better than mesmer in everything.

Advantages with Team comps with a Mesmer

1.Portal, Illusion of Life, Moah or Stealth (the most fundamental team utilities for plays and counterplays, openings and so on and so forth in game right now).
2.Artificial Intelligence/A.I – Strong by itself, compliments other A.I comps i.e Spirit Rangers.

Regarding the implications of meta in the sense of meaning shifting;

a.When the meta shifts it doesn’t mean automatically that a class that has been the best close-holder (adding up like we said portal, illusion of life and moah or stealth) is not viable. It means thakittens fundamental role has change/is different.
b.Roles have changed in this meta (who goes where and who does what).
c.Focus has changed in this meta (who goes down first in order)
d.Classes that have adapted are thieves (Sustained Damage), Warriors (CC) and engineers (Aggressive far-pointers and close-defenders to death).

Mesmers need to realize their role since guarding/protecting their close is not their role anymore but rather “roaming”. They need to concentrate on two builds

1.Full condition Glass Cannon or High Condition Bunker with sword/pistol and scepter/focus or one of them as offhand with Staff.
2.Mass support.

If you keep on insisting that there is no meta for a mesmer now, then you openly state that Portal, Illusion of Life, Stealth or Moah and A.I are completely useless. If you keep on insisting that there is no meta for a mesmer now, then I am pretty sure you are the laughing stock of every single warrior right now. You get the drift.

Every single time where balance discussion was on, everyone agreed that Necromancer and Warrior were not as effective as other classes so to come out and state that suddenly a monster-class such as the mesmer is out of meta is sad, pathetic and weak. You are not even to the warrior’s state yet you claim or you pretend to be and justify your delusional position on the matter. Its like because you can’t one-shot or troll people with GS from a range then that is the end of your class.

Maybe it is time to man up and suck it up to the challenge.