The whole intro is kind of silly. I just walked to the garrison and let Logan Thackery kill everything. I mean, why fight? You don’t even unlock weapon skills, get no loot, and can’t level. What’s the point?
There are way fewer “rude” comments than ones that are just upfront and brisk. Learn the difference.
^This
I agree
the money isnt in alts.
the money is in the new players.
Actually, I don’t think that there will be much money at all then. Who would want to play this thing as it is?
I made a new toon yesterday, and left them at level 6, one step away from completing the PS. All progress was lost.
And with these changes, you should be getting that message more and more frequently.
I said “sure, OK”
Unless invisible, the buffs didn’t happen.
Who in their right mind would ever buy a character expansion slot now?
I think it’s weird that I will have to go back to the starter areas to unlock skill points. That seems a little regressive to me.
Yeah, new players from yesterday must be a little confused to have all their stuff reset. LOL, welcome to Tyria.
My feedback: I didn’t think it was possible to kitten up the game any more but anet have set a new (low) bar in terms of poor mmo game development.
I support this view point.
And I played Warhammer on Line lol.
Why would you want to turn off such an important new feature?
Beats me. I got nada.
Just shut up and follow the arrow. Everything is fine.
By level 6 I was pulling what little is left of my hair out.
Hadda delete to maintain sanity.
And TBH, I was trying to like it.
Well, Queensdale hasn’t been so populated since the champ train nerf. Kinda fun to play there atm. Make an alt and join the BLK frenzy.
I believe this may be more in line with what players were hoping for. Also note, many of the tasks are BELOW the level where you will unlock a trait tier – this is intentional. I believe you will see better results if people can have immediate access to the content and use that to fuel growth, rather than being gated by their level for content they should have access to already.
Notice that most of these tasks are vague and open-ended, designed to compliment a “play as you want” style. Traits are gained in progression without having to force too much checklist style exploration. If a trait is not listed here, it’s because I personally consider it to be at least feasible. Others should comment as necessary.
Suggestions for new trait unlocks:
1-I:
Obsidian Sanctum.Complete three jumping puzzles. Any puzzles.1-II:
Inferno’s Needle.Help the Charr fight the flame legion! Complete 10 Flame Legion-themed hearts1-III:
100% Gendarran Field.Complete five “combat” skill challenges in Kryta1-V:
100% Blazeridge Steppes.Defeat a Champion creature in Brisban Wildlands1-VII:
Ogre Camp.Locate 10 “camp” POIs1-VIII:
Citadel of FlameDefeat a Champion creature in Fireheart RiseProblem: Trait unlocks are tedious (line 2)
2-II:Twilight Arbor.Help the Sylvari fight the Nightmare Court! Complete 10 Nightmare Court-themed renown hearts.2-VI:
Lornar’s Pass.Complete five “commune” skill challenges in the Shiverpeak Mountains2-VII:
Hylek Camp.Defeat a Champion creature in Sparkfly Fen2-X:
Personal Story Forging the Pact.Complete one group event in five of the following: Sparkfly, Maelstrom, Timberline, Frostgorge, Iron Marches, Fireheart2-XI:
Crucible of Eternity.Secure Infinity CoilProblem: Trait unlocks are tedious (line 3)
3-II:Battle for Claw Island.Complete level 28 personal story (racial arc)3-III:
Stonegaze Spire.Complete five “combat” skill challenges in the Maguuma Jungle3-VI:
Victurus the Shattered.Locate 10 “ruins” POIs3-V:
100% Fields of Ruin.Defeat a Champion creature in the Fields of Ruin3-VI:
Giant Blood Ooze.Help the Norn fight the Sons of Svanir! Complete 10 Sons of Svanir-themed renown hearts.3-VII:
Dredge Camp.Defeat a Champion creature in Bloodtide Coast3-VIII:
Sorrow’s Embrace.Defeat a Champion creature in Timberline Falls3-X:
Battle for Fort Trinity.Locate Vizier’s TowerProblem: Trait unlocks are tedious (line 4)
4-I:Light in the Darkness.Complete five “combat” skill challenges in the Shiverpeak Mountains4-II:
Tytone Perch.Find Beaker4-IV:
100% Harathi Hinterlands.Help the humans fight centaurs! Complete 10 centaur-themed renown hearts4-VI:
Krait Witch in Timberline Falls.Complete five “commune” challenges in the Maguuma Jungle4-VIII:
Chest in Arundon Vale.Locate Diedre’s Garden4-X:
Source of Orr.Chest in Arundon Vale4-XI:
Honor of the Waves.Defeat one of the Dragon Champion world bosses (Teq, Shatterer, Jormag)Problem: Trait unlocks are tedious (line 5)
5-I:Caudecus’s Manor.Complete five “commune” skill challenges in Kryta5-III:
Retribution.Complete five “combat” skill challenges in Ascalon5-VI:
100% Dredgehaunt Cliffs.Help the Asura! Complete 10 Inquest-themed renown hearts5-V:
Champ Ice Wurm.Defeat a Champion creature in Lornar’s Pass5-VI:
Lord Ignius the Eternal.Defeat a Champion creature in Snowden Drifts5-VIII:
Infinity Coil Commander.Defeat a Champion creature in Mount Maelstrom5-IX:
Admiral Taidha Covington.Defeat any of the 50-70 world bosses.5-XI:
Overgrown Grub.Complete 10 “combat” skill challenges in Orr5-XII:
Ruined City of Arah.Complete 10 “commune” skill challenges in OrrMy god this is brilliant and works. Some numbers may need tweeking, but by the Khan-Ur I love the way this is done.
Yes, sadly this makes so much more sense than what the paid help came up with that I may cry. They should just copy-paste and pretend that it was their idea.
4 new pages in 7 hours.
I can’t wait to see how this all works after the new and improved leveling system starts in a few days.
I would really like to make a new character, but I get so bored around 30ish.
It’s saved me lots of money though, and now I don’t have to log in very often.
Oddly enough, I’ve had an unusually large quantity of BL chests drop over the last couple of days.
I make mystic kits.
But if I had the gems, I’d get one.
It’s just another small money sink.
People stockpiling thousands of gold with nothing left to spend it on… Y’know, it makes that spare change go away. And then you never have to worry about buying another salvage kit again. I’m cool with that.
:3
I’m with you. I need some way to easily get rid of excess gold. I’m going to buy one for each of my toons.
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I have it (and I DONT REGRET it) – AND the copper one. If u use both (silver-one for yellows and up and copper for Whites to greens)… Then u actually SAVE Money compared to buy yellow salvage kits (wich I used to do Before). And not only that. It saves space and the running buying new kits all the time too. It IS a handy tool – if u know how to use it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There's_a_sucker_born_every_minute
Just for fun I rolled a human guardian yesterday. Got to level 10 in a little over an hour just doing hearts, personal story and any events that happened in my travels. Only used dropped items and PS rewards.
Not really so hard to do.
Got downed once {at level 3}when I soloed the big elemental at the dam. Rallied, killed him and his minions. He dropped a 0 level blue mighty staff, which sells for more on the tp than most rares.
Spend the money on your kids.
Really.
I still have a lot of mystics too.
Im just frustrated at anet thinking they could get away with posting an item in gemstore which clearly isnt giving anyone a benefit and rather tricking them to waste more of their hard earned gold.
Getting away with?
You need to take step back and take a deep breath. Your using a rudely accusatory tone and terms for a convenience item. The tools for harvesting cost a lot more then the free ones we can buy with karma. Never made them a “rip off”. It is called convenience.
Or maybe because it is an indicator that there’s something messed up about the game’s current direction.
Or maybe it isn’t. paying for convenience is a fairly common occurrence world wide. I like the fact that it takes one inventory slot rather then carrying multiple stacks of the other ones when running around WvW.
All righty. Go ahead and buy one or more.
But in my opinion there are so many more cost effective ways to achieve bag space.
This part that makes me think that new chars will get the email to start the personal story at level 10.
“As another addition with the level-up guide, we’re updating the personal story steps using our new Story Journal so they come in story chunks that unlock all at once per chapter. When a story chapter is unlocked as a level-up reward, you’ll be able to play straight through the entire chapter from start to finish and not have any awkward starts and stops that throw off the storyline. In this way, story chapters become another big moment to look forward to earning and unlocking as your character levels up.”
They want people to be able to play that segment of the story line from start to stop. The awkward starts and stops they are referring to are people stopping the progress of the personal story to level enough to do the next step. In order to remove the “starts and stops” the person has to be of high enough level to tackle the final instance of the segment.
Most people who aren’t familiar with the game are not going to take a level 2 char and play through through the level 10 instance. If you play straight through, you are only level 4 at the end. They don’t know the shortcuts. They don’t know the skills. They probably don’t know how to strafe. They’re noobs. Since ANet wants them to be able to play each section straight through when they get the notification it makes more sense for the personal story to start at level 10. At that level by the time they hit the level 10 instance they should be level 13 or 14.
Yeah, but by that time the content of the personal story chunk will be kind of anti-climatic. Like you said, if you play straight through now, you are level 4ish at the end. You can’t even use the rewards until you level a bit more.
Except for the BL key of course.
So that’s why I saw a few dozen commanders in Divinity’s Reach yesterday. I thought that I’d missed some event.
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Some of the problem stems from the fact that if you use the right build, armor and weapon package, you can do most of the content without having to really worry about things like combos. You can get it done using 1 or 2 skills.
So, does the whole personal story get a re-write? It’s too easy now at the lvl 1-10 part. That’s the real reason that you can key farm. I can get the key by lvl 4 now. Seriously, save Shaemoor as a lvl 10? You have to be kidding.
My question is why are those with lots of Mystic kits even considering this item? Why concern yourself with it at all?
Because they need something to complain about of course. Just ignoring stuff that you dislike is apparently impossible on these forums ^^
Or maybe because it is an indicator that there’s something messed up about the game’s current direction.
Uh, does this mean the price for 25 is going to be 750 after the sale because they just have to try and save face?
TBH, this seems to be ludicrous.
Just say no to really dumb stuff.
Again, thanks for your support!
So, exclamation points make everything better.
Pay .5s a salvage and change the name to “Not-Quite-A-Silver Fed Salvage-O-Matic”.
Make it monetarily viable and be cute about it. =P
Made my day. Thx.
Just sayin, sometimes….
Good enough, key farming is stupid, and obviously not something they wanted players to do.
Yes obviously anything that stops players from buying gems and keys in the BLTC must be stopped.
I typed a lengthy reply, but my session expired (wtf guys, I’ve been posting all day, there’s no excuse for this). To summarize, key farming is a dumb exploit that allows players to circumvent an entire revenue channel, and it’s surprising they took this long to fix it.
If we do not have any means of converting gold to gems, this would probably have merit.
Point taken, but that doesn’t mean it’s any less detrimental to have hundreds of people getting free keys every 20 minutes. Now the price of BL skins goes up, and more people will buy gems to convert to gold to get them. There’s always more to it.
Not to mention key farming is kind of a huge slap in the face to ANet. “Yeah we like your game, but the only part that’s really worth the time is the first 20 minutes.” I’m sure they appreciated that.
First 20 minutes IS the best part of the game.
Personally, I just kind of like bashing bandits.
Don’t worry, soon there’s not going to be anyone in the lower maps anyway.
This ain’t China. Maybe someone at ANET should check an atlas or something.
Good points. Like you, I have lots of stones that I didn’t have to pay for. To be honest, I also am sitting on more than a few BL salvage kits. The only time that I have ever used the BL’s has been to get runes and sigils that I wanted.
Considering there really is no good way to obtain keys currently, if this does in fact remove them from story rewards, it’ll feel like an intentional slap in the face.
1. Pull out credit card
2. Open Gem store
3. Buy pack of Black Lion KeysKeys are supposed to be their main source of RNG revenue… it was never intended for people to get them for free.
Who in their right mind would pay for BL keys? Or the silver fed salvage-o-matic? Or traits of all things. If that is what they hope to float this boat on, be prepared for the lights going out.
If a player can’t evaluate these items intelligently, how is that Anet’s fault? Nobody is hidding the simple math you just did from anyone. If you don’t feel the convenience of never having to buy a mid level kit is worth that cost….simply don’t buy it.
The real issue is if new players even KNOW about Mystic Kits….
Now that we have that out of the way, make your REAL complaint….that the kit does not fit what YOU want.
The idea here is to help new people (who do not have the experience to evaluate intelligently) to avoid wasting money on a poorly thought out item.
And thank you for bringing up the mystic kits. No one really needs them until they start getting rares and up. The copper fed machine is the one you want for everything else.
Unless you are short of Mystic Forge Stones (or use them for Flusher attempts), I’d say sticking with Mystic Kits is certainly more lucrative.
Why is anyone “annoyed” by this item? It’s available and up to each player to evaluate it’s usefulness for their play-style.
Mystic kits for me. I guess I’m just kinda annoyed that they wasted time on the item in the first place.
I can’t agree with this. Your problem is you have 7 characters. There is no need for so many. It is your choice to have that many, furthermore it’s your choice to outfit them all with exotics. Ya know, I was an altoholic too in GW1 and I was perpetually poor. I’ve since made it a golden rule for myself to keep characters to a maximum of two or three.
Yes. Altaholism can be a serious impediment to account progress.
And how do you roll and maintain 7 with any sort of normal existence?
Thanks everyone for giving us some feedback on this system we’ll meet internally and discuss this system some more as I think there are a lot of valid points being brought up here.
Good idea.
Despite my ramblings, it’s actually a pretty good game. After awhile it does get very repetitive, but the world is so shiny cute. Especially if you roll on an Asura. : )
There’s way worse stuff out there. Definitely worth the (half) price. But some of you folks need to step back and think about how seriously you are involved with something that is actually not real.
Find a nice partner and go for a date outside somewhere. Maybe have a picnic.
Personally, I believe that Anet is working on something larger in the background, something great. Many of their lead game designers / artists have been absent from the living story updates, and are still working for the company. Something big is coming, I have to believe it – even though I am perfectly fine with the way the game is (have been playing since betas, headstart, etc)
I just hope they ain’t working on a totally different game tbh >.>
Well, what if it’s a better game?
You got a point :P
If it’s better I might play it?
And so might you : )
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from what I can tell GW2 (as well as other games) have ben shut down by some troll hackers. some of the games they shut down are pay to play meaning they are screwing up someone’s paid game time. how is it we have no legal rights against this?
below is who seems to be causing it with those DDOS attacks or w/e they r called.
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Of course the activity is not legal. Perhaps you could sue LizardSquad. Personally I would be OK with them just going to jail.
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Personally, I believe that Anet is working on something larger in the background, something great. Many of their lead game designers / artists have been absent from the living story updates, and are still working for the company. Something big is coming, I have to believe it – even though I am perfectly fine with the way the game is (have been playing since betas, headstart, etc)
I just hope they ain’t working on a totally different game tbh >.>
Well, what if it’s a better game?
At any rate, I also think Anet is working on something much bigger.
You been saying that last year.
And last year they were, you saw the results in April. Those kinds of changes aren’t programmed in a week or two.
I’m not the one complaining. Other people are complaining about the lack of content they want. Or the lack of content. Or they think the April patch is lackster.
From April, re-trait on the fly and second slot for 2 handers (which is not a new concept, for instance the late, great WHO).
I just don’t understand how anyone could level 7 toons and be adverse to grinding. That’s why I only have 2, and don’t actually play the second one much.