The combat system is probably one of the best, dynamic events are a interesting and nice touch, everything else is really standard themepark MMO.
Decent game for what its designed for, but nothing that would cause literal tears. Lets not go overboard.
If they do a Fractal reward track, it should be done so within fractals. In the same way dungeon skins should be dungeon exclusive.
There is a chance for success and a chance for failure. In the same way people buy hundreds or even thousands of dollars worth of lottery tickets and don’t win, and those who buy 1 and win.
When it comes to gambling you should always expect to lose, and do so with that in mind. If you feel you can afford to lose 300g with the chance in mind then so be it, but if you are doing so thinking you will profit or ensure success then I would just save up and buy it outright.
thats why i don’t like this train of thought. we as a community should think n demand affordable nice items for all. we should NOT be held as hostage to the powerful 1% who monopolize certain markets. it is a game u play for fun. u don’t play to become a 2 tiers slave
Anet could always switch the game to a sub, and all dyes can be added in as content rewards. Anets business model is based off of cosmetics and creating rarity in cosmetics to drive spending on either gems or gold converting,
Comparing RL rich vs poor and GW2 market manipulation is silly. Anything that has a finite amount will always fluctuate in price, also giving the option to market manipulate is part of the game or really any market. Not to mention spending 240g(original price) on a dye isn’t what I would consider poor.
what about now its 950 gold now. what do u think about that price? fair?
Fair is about what people are willing to pay, if people don’t feel 950g is fair they won’t buy it and it should go down in price.
The problem that I have with your 1% vs 99% comparison is you are trying to compare apples and oranges. The issue with wealth inequality has to do with the wealthy controlling almost all aspects of wealth generation as well as consumption. This creates a caste system in which unless you are within that 1% the chances you getting there are slim because they control not only the cost but also the income ability.
Buying a luxury item is not the same as being controlled in a cycle of poor/stagnant income mixed with cost of living controlled from the same group.
Probably around 40-60$. Really the issue isn’t how much but on what, impulse sucks so wasting gems on 2 full cosmetic kits(one I didn’t care for the result), black wings(only used on 1 character), Dye kits(RNG items are really a petty cash grab), and top hat/ring master hat(will never regret these purchases) makes me realize it isn’t worth it.
Or just look the other way when clicking destroy. Its painful I know, but after awhile you realize hoarding dragonite is a problem, and you need to take the first steps in getting past it.
Comparing RL rich vs poor and GW2 market manipulation is silly. Anything that has a finite amount will always fluctuate in price, also giving the option to market manipulate is part of the game or really any market. Not to mention spending 240g(original price) on a dye isn’t what I would consider poor.
I hope in HoT both Logan and Trahern die a in a very non-heroic death. Possibly even labeled as traitors and forgotten about.
Just sayin..
Logan’s obsession with the Queen has always been borderline creepy, but more so to the point of utter annoyance. And Trahern sounds like MS Sam, and took all the credit for the kitten we did.
My guess is their main development focus is HoT, so outside of Gem Store items its pretty much maintance mode till release.
Though I think what people need to realize, is that GW2 isn’t developed, content wise, to be a consistently played game. Meaning it is built around casual gameplay, not playing 4-5 hours a day for years on end. If you play that much or for too long you will always run out of content early.
Random, everything should be random in instanced pve. Challenge through the unknown.
Like Diablo maps? I’d dig that!
Closest analogy I think, but yeah.
Random, everything should be random in instanced pve. Challenge through the unknown.
The resources to keep game servers online are fairly inexpensive these days. That’s why games like Guild Wars (the first one) are still running despite having very few players. So while it is true that games are shut down eventually, they can and often do last a long time after a subscription game would have had its plug pulled since the players that stick around are typically the ones who were funding it anyway.
It depends really. However in regards to GW1 I don’t think its because of cost or income. It isn’t uncommon for a company to keep a legacy game running in order to promote a new version in the franchise.
Funny. I’m just back after a year and a half away. And to be honest, I see more people on these servers than on “you know who’s”…
Probably because of the megaserver system which they added about a year ago.
Theory?
They launched GW2 as a hybrid B2P with a F2P model by relying mostly on cosmetic sales to sustain income while releasing smaller LS content. The mentality of limited gem items is to build hype to drive sales.
Though…
The model hasn’t worked well and they are reverting back to a expansion based model while limiting focus on cosmetics and LS. This also might be the reason they recently decided to scrap selling future armor skins and just do outfits.
At least thats my theory.
atleast the skins aren’t in gambling boxes.
i got no problem buying stuff from the store as long as i get exactly what it is i want.
as for outfits i think they’re pretty great especially if you want to have a decent looking char while leveling and want to save your transmutation charges.
Yeah the RNG based gem items seem like a money grab, a petty one.
They are doing something. They’re making an expansion. Most games have a large downturn in population before an expansion and it picks up after the expansion launches. Anyway I’m sure Anet knows this and has plans for other stuff.
The concern should be if HoT is too little too late to get players back or keep them. Summertime player fluctuation is common in MMOs.
Its not really a surprise that low AP players want to skip or try for a psuedo speed run. Majority of LFG runs are exp req. speed runs, and with the toxicity that is involved new players need to take what they can get to try and learn how to get into the common speed runs. It seems to be the nature of Dungeons in GW2.
Speed run, zerker, and exp req or gtfo. Which leaves little room for new players or players who don’t know the dungeons to learn them. One of the reasons I’ve stayed away from them other then a few storyline ones for PVP tracks. Never actually done a group path or fractal.
I think it’s more a generational thing, and why so may genX’ers, baby boombers and wwii gens dog on millennials /shrugs (I like some). And sadly, RMT item shops target them and revolve game development on how they can pull millennials into spending tons of cash (and they DO!) cha-ching. [Repent, the end is nigh].
This is partially true but not completely millennials fault. As a older millennial, I grew up playing games like UO(tail end really), EQ1/EQ2, Eve Online, WoW(initial release wasn’t as bad as it is now). Having a game that is more about the progression/effects then the reward was always more interesting. However saying that, many millennials especially the younger ones, really have only grown up around instant gratification or cash shop style games.
One could say the market created this mentality, however personally I blame developers, mainly around the beginning of DLCs. They created the atmosphere of easy access at a lower cost. This allows for Devs to make games at a cheaper cost while milking every dime they can through cash shops. Not to mention with the prolificacy of F2Ps it isn’t really a surprise that players jump around games. Most studios don’t want to check the norm and only make easy access games. GW2 for example is the epitome of theme park games.
No risk, no gates, no loss, yet people wonder why they get bored.
Need more Vincent Law voice acting tbh.
worked for gw1 so could have worked for gw2 possible, we will never know
your opinion about b2p and f2p comparison has nothing to do with the case – this game is b2p and saying otherwise is a plain lie
for a b2p game I would expect less cash shop focus and more content focus – especially paid content; I am not surprised with the OP. The gem store focus is out of proportion for last months. We know they’re working on expansion however some people are not happy with gem store focus and the amount of content added to gem store was bigger than real, meaningful content to play.
And no, living story 2 is not content but just a personal story extension with no real gameplay into it.
So please take into consideration people want to pay for content, not just skins and even worse – outfits.
When comparing GW1 and GW2 its obvious Anet didn’t want to go that route, my guess is they wanted to avoid having to release cash gated content, which is why they went with cosmetic heavy route. Now if this was a good or bad choice is unknown, though its obvious their current model isn’t working.
In regards to the F2P comparison is that since Anet DIDN’T go with content heavy cash shop and instead a cosmetic heavy makes it more inline with F2Ps then B2Ps. This is why I keep bringing it up. What you want and what Anet decided to do, are obviously at odds. It still doesn’t mean that GW2 isn’t a hybrid B2P/F2P that uses initial costs to act as a revenue surge, then sustain income via cosmetic cash shop, while releasing LS as the only cash content outside of initial. However with the failure of LS2 and the limited aspect of LS1 showed this system is flawed which is why they seem to be breaking away from that model and back into a expansion based system.
However development takes time, and Anet still needs revenue in the mean time, which is why they are still going to rely on cosmetics until they can get a working model running.
I also don’t disagree with the lack of content, or that the cosmetic heavy model isn’t sustainable and is bad, I’m just looking at things rationally.
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To put it into another perspective, single player games range from $50-60 and usually yield 30-60 hours worth of gameplay. GW2 being $50 initially with no other costs, means after 30-60 hours the initial cost of the game is irrelevant.
I detest this argument, and want to throw up every time I see it.
According to this, F2P games are the best thing ever, and can only be beaten by if you are a QA tester, and you even get paid for playing. Right….
If you really want to measure the “worth” of a game, please insert stuff like “level of enjoyment”, “saturation”, “personal gain” etc..
As much as you may detest the argument, it doesn’t take away from the fact that B2P revenue stream is primarily based off of Cash shop and not initial purchase, in the way F2Ps are. If not then Anet might as well made a SP game and avoided paying server costs and devs. The measure is cost comparison, since saturation and enjoyment are subjective.
this is not f2p game
kkthxbye
The business models are relatively the same. The difference is the initial cost allow for the devs to avoid doing more gameplay invasive cash shop items in order to generate revenue. So the balance between cash shop items(in this case cosmetics) and cosmetics via content will still always lean towards cash shop similar to F2Ps.
Also this game is not F2P, it costs $50 to buy it. That is alot of money. To put it into perspective, in some countries that is all you get paid each week.
To put it into another perspective, single player games range from $50-60 and usually yield 30-60 hours worth of gameplay. GW2 being $50 initially with no other costs, means after 30-60 hours the initial cost of the game is irrelevant.
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It’s been a couple of years for some of us, there are a lot of things to do but we’ve already done them. Most of the new stuff goes straight to the gem store or TP, hence the grinding.
Because they can generate outfits much quicker and cheaper than they can content. They are already developing new content via HoT, however they still need to sustain income while they develop it.
The time it takes to develop a armor skin =/= the time it takes to develop content. Plus the gem store is a source of income for Anet, which keeps the game a float, this should be a given when playing any F2P/B2P that there will be more consistent additions to a cash shop then there is ingame in regards to cosmetics.
Though no argument with outfits.
Going to go with a more “feels” favorite, and that is the interaction between the Norn bodyguard and the asura child in Almuten Estates.
Miss Mipp: “Psst. Tholaun. Can I tell you a secret?”
Tholaun: “You can tell me anything.”
Miss Mipp: “I was really scared, Tholaun. I tried to be a brave norn, but those pirates were mean!”
Tholaun: “It’s okay. You didn’t cry. I’m proud of you.”
Miss Mipp: “Can I cry now?”
Tholaun: “If you insist.”
Here’s a thread where you can see lots of looks. Warning, it will take you a long time to go through it.
Yes, and it is two years old which is why I post a new thread.
2 years old but still active.
Don’t rush to level. Just explore the world. Guardian is a good first choice because you can just button smash your way to victory without really thinking.
There is really no reason NOT to rush to cap. The game at cap is the same as when you level, just without throw away gear and a set build.
Farming in the same way grinding is a very vague and subjective term. For better results a clearer example of farming would be best.
Better than wow for sure. I think the way the game is designed leads to that. It’s more cooperative than competitive.
To be fair, WoW is a victim of their size and age. When WoW first came out the community wasn’t very toxic, world events where quite fun and friendly. Granted I don’t know how things are now or how content has changed since TBC.
E: Usually the smaller the game the better the community and the larger the worse. GW2 does have a good community for its size though.
GW2 has no need for leveling
It also had no need for a lot of other standard MMO “features,” like stats on gear — and yet we have them. Why is that? Could it be that ANet decided to try to attract MMO fans other than just sticking with their fan-base from GW?
Apples and oranges. Gear stats allow for diversity as well as goals, while I don’t disagree there are other elements of “standard MMOs” that aren’t needed in GW2, but leveling is one that seems counter intuitive.
Leveling is generally used in MMOs as a timegate for endgame content, since Gw2 is “all endgame” it makes leveling almost harmful. Since after spending time leveling and finally hitting cap you are faced with the idea that everything you did while leveling is in fact all you will do at cap. This is why you get so many “Just hit 80, what now?” threads.
E: Also cannot comment on the comparison to GW1 since I only tried it out years ago, but never actually got into it(for whatever reason), and really don’t remember it at all.
They need to either add back in a repair cost or just remove repair in general. If they added back in the cost, it would at least function as a gold sink, with how it is currently it is pointless.
They took away the charge for repair as ANet felt the cost of way pointing to and then back after having your gear repaired was enough of a gold sink, and found that new players didn’t like being triple tapped in the pocket every time they had to repair. It was done in the name of player retention. Telling people they have to pay again would annoy people, and go against the player retention data ANet have.
In short it will never go back to a gold sink.
If new player retention was the issue(which I doubt it was), there is a very common and simple solution to that. Repair costs only apply when you reach X level. However as stated they should either add it back in or remove it, because right now it’s a pointless “feature” that seems to exist only to annoy.
They need to either add back in a repair cost or just remove repair in general. If they added back in the cost, it would at least function as a gold sink, with how it is currently it is pointless.
I really want Kodan as playable race…
They should have done Kodan instead of Norn, either way I would love Kodan to be a playable race.
A game wiithout any levels could still effectively teach the same things through personal story instances.
^ this.
GW2 has no need for leveling, and really hurts the game more so then helps. Having zones that are level based only creates the mentality that after you surpass the level req. that zone is no longer needed. Gw2 could easily survive and be better imo, if they removed levels, used the PS as a tutorial, and revamped Tyria to mimic more of a sandbox style world.
GW is already on steam, which means NCSoft isn’t completely against the idea. However they probably don’t see the need at the moment to do so. Some publishers put older games on steam after they’ve already lost the surge of normal sales, kindof a last ditch effort to get players.
Either that or NCSoft didn’t like how things turned out with GW1 and decided against repeating it with GW2.
Been toying with a build I saw posted somewhere around here. However I got sidetracked with alts, so haven’t actually got it set up yet to test. It would be primarily for dungeon/fractal pugging.
I have a little goblin but he’s ruggedly handsome and quite the charmer.
Those graphics settings certainly don’t help him at all either.
When your character is that ugly, it might be for the best to have it on lower settings.
Wouldn’t the “need a group” aspect also making selling final bosses illegal? Since you aren’t joining for group content, you’re buying a service.
Personally I don’t think Fractals are random enough. They should randomize all mobs, size, shape, difficulty, and location.
Always thought it was best to allow Karma to Laurel converting, since there is already ways to convert to gold. However I think Laurels were created as a “carrot” to keep players logging in daily.
It wouldn’t surprise me if they start cycling them as time goes on. This keeps their “rarity” high and drives BL Key sales.
With alts being a common aspect of GW2, I was curious on how others make use of their alts.
Personally I’ve been focused more on leveling them to 80 before planning what to do with them, since just finishing my 5th 80, I’m now at a impasse. I like to have professions set in a role, since it makes it easier to set goals, spec/gear(I’m lazy), and grow accustomed to that role.
6 Char Slots
5 Level 80s(Guardian, Ele, Mesmer, Necro, Engi)
1 BL Key Farmer(Was told this was legal, if not I will stop asap).
Guardian- Plan on focusing on dungeons and/or Fractals.
Ele- sPVP/All Around
Engi- World PVE/Completionist
Mesmer- ??
Necro- ??
So what do you do with your level 80s?
It wouldn’t be a surprise if things move in that direction, and really should already be. CD/DVD drives are more and more becoming obsolete, with flash drives, cloud systems, increasing internet speeds and reliability, some computers may not even have a disc drives anymore.
LOL
Is there any discussion in on this site that is not full of illogical strawman arguments?
In most other (modern) MMOs we have mounts as a method of speed increase. In SWTOR, base run speed was increased, even though there were mounts in the game due to feedback from players, they also added multiple forms of purchasable speed increases.
To me, GW2 is in a similar state. The default run speed feels too slow. I would venture to say the majority of the population feels the same, since they either slot increases, run boosters or food buffs, or come on the forums to ask for mounts.
Feels too slow is subjective. I can only base this on the hundreds of games I have played over the years. One could argue it is a result of map sizes, character sizes, or it could just be the base physics of the game. It could the interactions of all of these things in the game world.
To me, in-combat speed feels like a slightly slower walk than is typical in games, which makes normal speed feel like a slow power walk, and +25% feels close to normal Run.
I don’t care what form a speed increase comes in, whether it is a PvE only mount, a base speed increase, or a cheap craftable PvE only item/food. They can leave PvP out, we know these things are easily split.
I don’t see how it will hurt anyone.
In regards to PVE, keeping speed low is a way to incentivise, Waypoint usage which works as a gold sink(while minor it adds up), they also probably have the mindset that it helps promote group events, instead of people flying by at 200% speed.
If switched in WvW you will just end up with the reverse, professions without a good cripple will be the same as those with poor run speed.
I would just be happy if we could put a monument or something in our home instance to remember them. Or have the Orders put up something in their base, since there wouldn’t be a conflict.
Though the idea by Gerrand in regards to subtle things would work as well. Apple tree for Tybalt, NPC gossip telling stories of Forgal’s Legend, and I don’t know about Sieran tbh.
But it isn’t. All three are considered dead, no matter who you chose. You only had a personal relationship with the one in your personal story. But in canon, they all died on Claw Island.
The other 2 would have no reason to be at Claw Island when the attack happened, the only ones who died at Claw Island where Lionguard.
Grandpa Max and the cabbage don’t need to be remembered, only Tybalt was a true and proper hero.
All should be remember. Personal opinion aside, all three gave their lives to save you, and Lions arch and the survivors of Claw island.
The only hitch to the idea of all three, is “technically” only one sacrificed their lives depending on which order you chose. So unless they make 1 statue and the figure is dependent on which one you personally chose, it wouldn’t make much sense.
If they increase the base, then people will want that increased, it would be a never ending cycle. After just finishing leveling my mesmer, I found that doing Sigil of Speed and Centaur runes made life so much easier. While you lose stats compared to others, its leveling, so it doesn’t hurt much at all, plus the runes are relatively cheap.