Guild Wars 2

None. If you want to +1 go thief. If you want to be a bruiser who doesnt give a f and 1vX people then war/dh, if you want supp then ele/druid.

Adrenal health is overtuned af but have fun trying to get it nerfed. No trait, espesially minor should provide SO MUCH sustain. Its ridiculous but Anet loves that kind of stuff. To get that kind of extra sustain you should invest in few traits and lose tons of damage in exchange for it, not 1 minor on a already good line.

Delete and pick something else. Bugs and crap desing gonna stay here for good. Hes called nerfnant for a reason.

Shaogin.2679:

Burtnik.5218:

Shaogin.2679:

Lexander.4579:

remove downed state from pvp, its just a fancy pve play toy

PvP just wouldn’t be the same without stomping downed players. It also adds a bit of extra depth and strategy to gameplay.

Downstate is literally the most kittened thing in a PvP. I already cleaned your hp 100-0, why you dont wait for rez already and instead you get a possibility of a second chance if someone “rez” you? This is one of the reasons why this game is always going to remain as a joke to literally any player outside of GW. At this point you can add as many fancy things as you want, leagues, fancy division icons and whatever but it will never reach esport scene. They just waste resources at this point.

You downed an opponent sure but if you and your team lack the skill and coordination to finish the job then that is something you need to improve on.

I dont need to improve cus i dont play the game anymore. kitten downed mechanic is one of the reasons why i hate pvp in this game cause it puts me on huge disadvantage in 1vX when noobs can reach rez each other whole time and i cant do much in these situations cus 3sec stomptime that you need stab for and ridiculous downed damage+his friend on you is totally balanced and fair.

Its a mechanic to carry noobs who should git gud tbh. If downed mechanic is so good, why it wasnt added in other games already? Go figure on your own.

Shaogin.2679:

Lexander.4579:

remove downed state from pvp, its just a fancy pve play toy

PvP just wouldn’t be the same without stomping downed players. It also adds a bit of extra depth and strategy to gameplay.

Downstate is literally the most kittened thing in a PvP. I already cleaned your hp 100-0, why you dont wait for rez already and instead you get a possibility of a second chance if someone “rez” you? This is one of the reasons why this game is always going to remain as a joke to literally any player outside of GW. At this point you can add as many fancy things as you want, leagues, fancy division icons and whatever but it will never reach esport scene. They just waste resources at this point.

Weapon skills always had cd. But just so you know sword 3 could be used literally every 7 seconds before and was much much more powerful, even if the damage spreaded to other targets each strike was hitting like truck. Now its pretty much a junk.

Utility skills should remain with 0 cd outside of the ones that actually can cc to prevent cc chains/ fake stow cancels like jade winds. They literally took everything that was fun about this class.

Spartacus.3192:

lol sure lets go back to the Old Skool holy trinity which ANET specifically said they wanted to get AWAY from. HAHA

What selfheal has to do with holy trinity? I dont get it.

I personally think they should, “do it all on your own” thing is never going to be balanced.

Ill pay 5000gems to remove all fa wings from this game.

Main thing that killed condi rev was BWE2 change. Mallyx was supposed to be weak to power build but hardcounter condi ones. Now hes trash vs power builds and weak vs condi ones. Makes sense right? Still waiting for condi copy to be back along with pulsing resistance on elite.

If the bug gives rev advantage it is fixed withing few weeks top. If it provides disadvantage then.. you have this list and stuff on it wont get touched ever

I still hate these people who asked for weapon swap. It was not needed. Anyway with current cd’s on wep skills, energy has to gtfo.

Lahmia.2193:

atheria.2837:

Lahmia.2193:

So long as you don’t say “CoR getting stuck on terrain” is a bug. It is intentional being a terrain based ranged attack with no other counters aside from dodging. It can also go through WvW gates.

Why does anyone start a thread that actually gets some attention at one time but then the ball is dropped and the questions and the issues are never solved?

Oh, wait, is this Anet or is this the government?

Either way, the game’s management is severely bent and on its way to being completely broken in all game modes, in and out of instances, with missing dialog and bugged events.

Come back Anet… Really, the game needs help. Soon.

My point is, there are some things in game that people claim are bugs. However it is actually an intentional mechanic, but people don’t realise.

It was on official bug page which got deleted. Its not intended mechanic. Please stop.

The old times where rev had an upper hand over thief 1v1, hardcountered war and other power specs in general just to end up.. like that. From hardcounter to hardcountered, to a rather subpar level and forced to ask ele/druid to babysit them if they dont want to melt in seconds. Good new times

Meanwhile still 0 condi cleanse, still 0 reliable source of stab (HEAVY CLASS KAPPA), still 0 reliable healing on his own, weapon skills for whatever reason still consumes energy and an average burst when you have literally every trait, rune, amulet and sigils specced for nothing but damage. Makes me wonder why bother with rev if you can go and faceroll with thief instead? Pretty sure they arent done with nerfs, nerfnant has to be nerfed every patch cus its Gw2 tradition already.

I dont get this logic, why hard to play class is getting nerfed so much while faceroll ones like mesmer, dh, warrior are allowed to continue deal high damage without any brain usage and have decent sustain as the same time? Its feels like devs want easy to play>high reward and hard to play>low reward kind of system. Thats how i understand it from recent patchnotes.

Also nvm the fact that they literally broke everything that was fun about rev, he has literally nothing common with release rev. It was a class that was supposed to have low weapon cd’s, 0 cd utilities and be balanced by energy system instead wep cd’s were raised to be on par with other classes while still costing energy, utilities got energy raised+slapped cd on literally everything already. I mean going by this logic, thief should already receive cd’s on wep skills, warrior should use adrenaline for his weapon skills etc. But well its Anet logic. Also bugs.. bugs everywhere that will never be fixed cus who care anyway haha.

Ellie.5913:

Burtnik.5218:

Start playing male characters and problem solved. Gtfo female human meta tyvm. Outfit is good, bb.

NO, males are wack YOU GTFO

Then you have a problem. I dont and so many people who play charr/male toons like me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiXaT_1I-vw

Start playing male characters and problem solved. Gtfo female human meta tyvm. Outfit is good, bb.

XxsdgxX.8109:

That’s why I always said that taking that trait was suicide. Lol the garbage got nerfed at some point anyway.

It was a good trait before the nerf. 4k hp on 20cd? Not bad at all. Now its trash, just like shield itself anyway.

Rym.1469:

No, energy costs should stay.

And why they should stay? They got rid of this concept already by raising cd’s on literally everything cause we were supposed to have lower spamable cd’s than other classes+energy to balance it out so again.. why rev should still use energy to cast?

Right now its nothing but double punishment. If it supposed to stay then warrior wep skills should use adrenaline, thief receive cooldowns etc etc. Either bring back low cd’s like rev was supposed to have or remove energy from them already. Right now its not balanced by any means. Players arent responsible for breaking the profession but devs who messed it up.

CutesySylveon.8290:

We’ll add it to the list with all the other bugs.

Its not a bug. People complained about unintentionally canceling this trait by wasd so to prevent this situation you can no longer break the effect by movement keys.

Evan Lesh.3295:

So you can put up super rude names for all to see? I KNOW WHAT YOU DID ON THE GUILD BOARDS.

Well.. we tried. Kitten.

They should already be gone given how dev raised cd’s. Now its just double punishment for no reward.

BlaqueFyre.5678:

Why should players be favored for not playing in a game that runs 24/7 because they are on Christmas break? This is no different from any other game with a competitive leaderboard

Man.. its 3 days, give a break. Decay should kick in after a month but given how short seasons are for gw2 it would be perfect to let decay kick in after 2 weeks.

Git gut. /10charrs

Meh.. who care about pvp legendary when its literally one of the worst backpieces in the game with kitten dyes. Gemstore backpieces looks much better than this junk so if you want new legendary go to gemstore and search for Glint wings.

Theres only one problem with rev for me. All that made him fun is gone while keeping the worst stuff for whatever reason. Concept wise he completely changed.

We still have energy cost on weapon skills for whatever reason along with high cd’s right now when we were supposed to have lower cds than other classes+energy cost. So why skills still cost energy?

Energy was supposed to be a reverse mechanic to thief – spamable utilities as long you have energy to do so, it was all down to energy management. Now? They slapped cds on literally everything save for Mallyx but dont worry, they will get there as well.

Shield 5 – the root was there as tradeoff for the huge heal it had, now it heals for less than what it used to and it still roots for whatever reason.

I could go on but who care. kitten this class. Bai

Next patch – we dont want rev to deal majority of its damage from autoattack so we will be reducing autoatk damage by 30% to make 2 and 3 more interesing for dps rotations. Happy holidays!

chronometria.3708:

Dragon.8762:

Played a few matches with Rev, its still really good. Time to kill, honestly was just slightly reduced. Staff 5 eh, I never used it for damage anyways. Mainly used it for cc on people trying to res downed team mates, stopping a stomp from happening, or another evade.

A full staff 5 burst takes around 20% of the enemies health if fully connected. Combined with weapon swap hyro sigil burst and equilibrium just from one legend swap still deals a ton of damage, and accomplished within the matter of 2 seconds.

If a fully connecting staff burst takes 20 percent of enemy health, that’s terrible.

In other words, you hit like a vegetarian
Being honest while i do agree with damage nerf with surge it also should come up with staff buffs in general and surge cd reduced to 15sec along with cost. Staff is probably f useless right now i guess.

Theres a reason why i called him nerfnant few months ago ;D
Im pretty sure they arent done with nerfs so prepare for more soontm

Zintrothen.1056:

and now you can run a Condi spec

You high? Serious question. Buggy af mace 2/axe 5, low resistance, low condi pressure compared to other condi builds, 0 stability, no secondary ranged set decicated to condi in fact no secondary condi wep at all. What left? Sword mh? Good luck.

Abelisk.4527:

I noticed that everyone ignored all the positive buffs and focused on this nerf (divisive). I’m feeling they want Mallyx back in the scene, which is gonna be interesting to see how it all plays out.

Want Mallyx back? Undo the nerf to resistance trait, bring back condition copy that was removed after bwe2 and give elite pulsing resistance. Till then Mallyx will remain as total potato. Also it doesnt address two most important thing – rev still doesnt have ranged condi weapon and mace 2 n axe 5 are buggy af to the point where they even fail to deal damage at flat ground sometimes.

NXM.3094:

So, is Smite a really good game ? You’re not the first I see talking about it, and I have to find a new game to play now :/

Balance patches every 2 weeks, most chars are viable choice. I played it for over few months already still not bored. Atm i am diamond in ranked (only 100 players can be master) and while there are few bs overall i cant complain. Its feels like gw from gameplay due to camera but much more skillshot based and without dodge button (howerver leaps can serve as some.. sort off)

Hirasaki.6208:

Only Hammer 2 was nerfed, its still a great Rev weapon. Couple it with a full zerker max Burst build and you can deal up to 5 digit dmg on a single CoR easy.

Plus it has a range of 1200, and can hit 5 targets. The only downside is it fire’s very slowly. So if you fighting enemies with shields, that’s when you switch to sword auto and sword 3.

Hammer is trash in spvp and the only thing it is useful for in WvW is CoR spam. In current desing its an unviable weapon spvp, pve and i dare to say even wvw if it wasnt for CoR. A ranged damage with poop damage at max out range, no damage at all at close and with 0 kiting option when its all about keeping distance to do max damage. Makes sense. Not.

Hammer wont become meta, rev is out of meta.

Cal Cohen.3527:

Lots of great feedback in this thread! I see a lot of concern about the nerfs to revenant so I would like to discuss those a bit more.

Surge of the Mists is a skill that does everything. It evades attacks, is a massive cc, and does a huge amount of damage. The defensive capability and cc fit well with the rest of the staff set, so we felt the damage was the best spot to bring the skill down a bit. 50% is certainly a big reduction, but consider just how much damage this skill does right now. Even after the nerf it will still take a chunk out of a squishy’s health bar, in addition to providing cc setup for another skill (and teammates).

Precision Strike is another skill that we felt did too much damage on its own, particularly when all 3 projectiles hit one player. This is another case of a big reduction on a skill that does a ton of damage, resulting in a skill that still does a reasonable amount of damage.

In general, revenant isn’t lacking in sources of damage. Unrelenting Assault, Facets of Strength, Elements, and Chaos, Equilibrium, and sword autoattack are all strong damage skills as well. Precision Strike and Surge of the Mists will continue to bring relevant damage to the table, so rev should still have plenty of damage to go around.

With that said, we will definitely be keeping a close eye on things going into the season.

In general you messed up too much with the original desing of revenant and broke everything. Nobody forced you, devs to change the way sword acted. Precision sttrike was all about utility to slow down enemies at release and you broke it. Now it overpowered 1v1 but useless in any 1vX, targets some invisible objects and what not. NOT FIXED TO THIS DAY BTW.

Cd’s slapped and raised on literally everything when rev was about reverse system to thief in that he would have a free choice of spamming X utility as long he has energy to do so or weapon skills themself having low cd’s+energy cost. Take a look at current cd’s of rev weapon skills and tell me if they are lower compared to literally every class ingame. No, they f arent yet they still cost energy. Is there any other class that has to bother with cd’s+energy? I dont think so.

Rev is a class without condi cleanse, without any reliable source of stability, without reliable healing, without reliable source of damage bc for whatever reason it spreads over many targets lowering it drastically to single target unlike every other skill ingame.

Thats one of many examples how you ruined this class so thanks for the game but for me gw2 and your company is as good as dead. You literally have no idea what you doing whatsoever and all the evidence is in patch notes from last 4 years.

No fixes for nerfnant, they clearly want you to play another class, you should realize it by now ;D

Gaile Gray.6029:

We’re going to bring some elements of the main power build down slightly

Gaile Gray.6029:

slightly

These balance changes for rev.. just wow, im not even mad. I just laugh. if rev wasnt dead with last nerfs then he is now for sure. Hf people. You are free to come over to Smite anytime guys.

But they buffed rev damage as compensation right? kappa
If you havent rerolled yet it is time to do it or quit the game like me.

Highlie.7641:

i would think the latter would grow the population more.

And how did it work so far? Is gw esport yet? Oh wait.. nobody cares about gw, its dying, not growing.

Rev is like the old warrior. You need to rely on your team to provide you:
healing
stab
condi removal

In other words hes horrible for solo play.

Mr Godlike.6098:

balance team

???
Gw doesnt have a “balance team” They are called “skill team”

Lol when Shiro the “legendary assassin” cant deal with a mere thief.. One has to ask why these figures are even considered to be legendary in this case.. i personally dont know.. i guess legends are just that.. legends and nothing else. We need to start channel actual real champions not some weak af guys from tales for kids.

Smite has 1 year season. Balance updates comes every 2 weeks. They have their ups and down but if something is buffed and ends up being strong af its getting nerfed usually. Example tank boots.

AN will never ever balance this game with current pace. But i dont think they aim to balance it anyway. Its a mess which you cant fix anymore without deleting all classes and starting over from 0.

Obindo.6802:

Burtnik.5218:

Obindo.6802:

sophiewhite.3149:

Obindo.6802:

Rev is still arguably strongest class, some would argue mesmer competes with it tho

on my rev i cant kill a mesmer of equal skill because most of my attacks have a mind of their own. oh you want to target the real mesmer? here let me hit every single clone once just to make sure.on my warrior? i can kill a lot of mesmers.

Rev is not for 1v1 even tho it has good matchus. The game is rock paper scissors. Don’t be stupid.

Pretty sure rev was supposed to hardcounter any power build 1v1 and be hardcounter by any condi build which is a reason why it cant clean a kitten (sadly they nerfed it to pleb level and left condi weakness turning rev into a subpar thief). We even have “legendary assassin” stance for a reason or the weapon itself that it supposed to be 1v1 oriented. So how rev is not for 1v1?

Using your rev to 1v1 is a waste of your rev

Nice argument there m8, spot on. 11/10

BlaqueFyre.5678:

Burtnik.5218:

JayAction.9056:

BlaqueFyre.5678:

You can…. run different Legends………

Shadowstep.6049:

They don’t know definition of trade off – don’t bother.

The other legends are 100% non-viable. Getting stunned in mallyx is a guaranteed 100-0 if your opponent is playing a damaging amulet. Jalis, is 100% useless in pvp. Ventari also does not work.

They are not aware of it

I don’t understand why you guys are all up in arms over ED, it’s has always been the worst thing to have.

Backed off already? You make me sad. I complained about Shiro heal back at his reveal, during beta i wanted to get it changed. Idc if it will deal damage or not, i want reliable heal ability in a healing skill slot. I wouldnt give a kitten if it was an utility skill, but its healing one and i would like to have reliable healing. When i played guardian i was farting off healing no matter what i pressed, i didnt had to worry about hitting someone/taking hits on purpose. When i played warrior i was healing for 900hp/s while being afk at the same time.

No healing skill has so many counters like ED and the worst thing is we cant even swap it away for something else without losing other utility skills unlike all 8 classes for whatever reason. This heal is on par with water spirit – they are the worst healing abilities in the game, even thief skelk is better and you dont see it being picked by anyone cus its trash ability. ED the olny heal in game which has “interval”, can be reflected to heal your enemy instead, deflected, blinded and now also “daggers” are lost on block/evade.

I want them to delete this ability already and give Shiro a new healing ability https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Meditation_of_the_Reaper
or
https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Battle_Scars

In general, revenant is a class which is up to a overhaul, he wasnt even supposed to have wep swap in the first place but the designer responsible for this class kittened up and we ended up with what we have now. A bugged beta class where most of the abilities are simply unviable and something like number changes wont fix anything.

I sitll wonder why they ever touched sword mh in the first place when it was good where it was. Now we have a skill that aims into houses and other bullkitten and they dont even bother to fix the mess they created. So basically we are with sword that is kittened OP in 1v1 but useless in 1vX. The sword desing is really off in general, autoattack want you to group as many enemeis in one place as possible while 2 and 3 are doing the opposite. Anet logic is too stronk for me really.

JayAction.9056:

BlaqueFyre.5678:

You can…. run different Legends………

Shadowstep.6049:

They don’t know definition of trade off – don’t bother.

The other legends are 100% non-viable. Getting stunned in mallyx is a guaranteed 100-0 if your opponent is playing a damaging amulet. Jalis, is 100% useless in pvp. Ventari also does not work.

They are not aware of it

BlaqueFyre.5678:

Burtnik.5218:

BlaqueFyre.5678:

Burtnik.5218:

BlaqueFyre.5678:

Clownmug.8357:

Revenant does have two healing skills, one dependent on hitting your opponent and the other one dependent on being hit by an opponent. A brilliant design that lets the opponent determine whether you can heal or not. That’s why Skelk Venom and Defiant Stance are so widely used right?

What if I told you those weren’t the only two healing skills, just the ones people choose because Meta…..

If i olny could swap healing skills on revenant or utilities to get stunbreak/condi cleanse.. oh wait.

You can…. run different Legends………

Run a legend without stunbreaks on a class with 0 access to reliable stability? That wise and smart. I really never thought about it before.

Run invocation two Stun breaks… have reliable Stability just have to time Dodges and actually evade..

Neither are reliable source. Im waiting for your videos playing a ventari/mallyx/jalis rev. Check i will gladly reinstall the game just to 1v1 your Mallyx/Jalis/Ventari rev. My skullcrack berserker is waiting. I will record it and post on these forums. Deal?

BlaqueFyre.5678:

Burtnik.5218:

BlaqueFyre.5678:

Clownmug.8357:

Revenant does have two healing skills, one dependent on hitting your opponent and the other one dependent on being hit by an opponent. A brilliant design that lets the opponent determine whether you can heal or not. That’s why Skelk Venom and Defiant Stance are so widely used right?

What if I told you those weren’t the only two healing skills, just the ones people choose because Meta…..

If i olny could swap healing skills on revenant or utilities to get stunbreak/condi cleanse.. oh wait.

You can…. run different Legends………

Run a legend without stunbreaks on a class with 0 access to reliable stability? That wise and smart. I really never thought about it before.

Huskyboy.1053:

If you want to show me how Mallyx, Jalis, or Ventari (our other amazing choices) builds play in sPvP feel free to stream some matches, I’ll grab my popcorn.

Also this.. except popcorn. Cookies+tea for me. Im waiting for the videos.

BlaqueFyre.5678:

Clownmug.8357:

Revenant does have two healing skills, one dependent on hitting your opponent and the other one dependent on being hit by an opponent. A brilliant design that lets the opponent determine whether you can heal or not. That’s why Skelk Venom and Defiant Stance are so widely used right?

What if I told you those weren’t the only two healing skills, just the ones people choose because Meta…..

If i olny could swap healing skills on revenant or utilities to get stunbreak/condi cleanse.. oh wait.

CutesySylveon.8290:

Obindo.6802:

CutesySylveon.8290:

Obindo.6802:

CutesySylveon.8290:

Obindo.6802:

CutesySylveon.8290:

Obindo.6802:

CutesySylveon.8290:

Nobody, exactly.

The conversation can go back to being productive now.

Quote me saying nobody, you can go back to being a no name

“Quote me saying nobody, you can go back to being a no name.”— Nobody

But I don’t in that quote, you seem as bad at this as your accomplishments

“But I don’t in that quote, you seem as bad at this as your accomplishments.” — Nobody, the Keyboard Warrior (( get it? ))

Correction: Your superior who will actually accomplishes something meanwhile you QQ on forum to compensate for no success, talk about keyboard warrior.

Coming from the person trying to validate themselves over a game, likely because you have no real accomplishments. Seriously, is your self esteem this easy to shake just by poking it?

Should have taken Retaliatory Evasion, because you take hits like a necro

Estimated IQ of 150-180, Eidetic memory, all A’s in the most demanding/“difficult” alignment in sweden, skipped a grade ahead of my age (17) and my self esteem is good thank you, it’s not shaken because a random no name on the internet gets seemingly triggered.

Care to grab some popcorn and a seat, Burtnik? This is priceless entertainment.

I did long ago.

CutesySylveon.8290:

Obindo.6802:

CutesySylveon.8290:

Obindo.6802:

CutesySylveon.8290:

Nobody, exactly.

The conversation can go back to being productive now.

Quote me saying nobody, you can go back to being a no name

“Quote me saying nobody, you can go back to being a no name.”— Nobody

But I don’t in that quote, you seem as bad at this as your accomplishments

“But I don’t in that quote, you seem as bad at this as your accomplishments.” — Nobody, the Keyboard Warrior (( get it? ))

But bruh, “cake walk” are pros. I mean nobody roams as good as them in dire gear kappa. Srsly this guy.. Worth to note, gw2 atm has little over 800 viewers on twitch. Such emotions, much wow, Esport confirmed.