Guild Wars 2

Xar.6185:

Here is a direct example illustrating where the concern with these new recipies is coming from.

(First let me point out that the only difference in these recipes is the duration and nothing else)
Mushroom Loaf vs. Plate of Orrian Steak Frittes:
Mushroom Loaf Yields 1 mushroom loaf

• 20 Portabello Mushrooms
• 20 Mushrooms
• 5 Rosemary Sprig
• 2 Balls of Dough
  • 2 sticks of butter
  • 2 jugs of water
  • 2 bags of flour

Plate of Orrian Steak Frittes Yields 1 Plate of Orrian Steak Frittes

• 1 Slab of Red Meat
• 1 Cup of Lotus Fries
  • 1 Lotus Root
  • 1 Jar of Vegetable Oil
  • 1 Pile of Salt and Pepper
    • 1 Packet of Salt
    • 1 Black Peppercorn

See the discrepancy?
The Plate of Orrian Steak Frittes only needs 3 items to be gathered per 30 minute buff, the rest of the ingredients are purchased from the master chef whereas the Mushroom loaf needs 47 items to be gathered per 60 minute buff and still needs item purchased from the master chef.

Am I glad new recipes were added? Absolutely.
Do these new recipes need to be adjusted? Absolutely.

How that adjustment comes about is another matter.
Is it ok to to reduce the amounts required? Sure if they are reduced enough.
However I think a better option would be to just increase the yield of the recipe. For example the recipe above should yield at least 8, preferably 10 mushroom loaves to be competitive with it’s 30 minute counterpart and I do think they should be competitive.

I do agree there should be a small ingredient tax on the convience of having the extended duration. The keyword there is ‘small’. As it stands now there is no tough choice to make. The 30 minute recipe wins by such a large margin that even if you were given the ingredients for the mushroom loaf you would be better of selling them and then making a mountain of steak frittes.

A couple of things related to your food comparison example. Currently, I think you can craft/buy mushroom loafs for about 6 silver. Now, I believe this is mostly a WvW type of food. When I run WvW, usually for about 3 hours in a row, I always forget to refresh my food buffs (many people do). Having a one hour buff is, at least to me, a luxury. It’s like the molten mining pick; I bought it because it’s convenient.

If you compare it against the cost of orrian stake frites, yes, the other one will be around 3 silver per hour (2 x half an hour of ~1.5 silver – which should rise btw due to black pepperkorn being required for grilled portobello mushroom, as well as due to the recent change to not make this mat gatherable anymore in half the areas in which it used to be available). However, the stats of this new food type are, at least for certain setups, arguably better. So per evening, I’d spend around 9 silver extra on food, which is convenient has better stats for my setup. To be quite frank, I’m not that fussed.

Lastly, I look at this against the bigger picture. There’s an overflow of low level mats on the market, and these recipes will help clear out the surplus/imbalance on those markets. Plus, quite frankly, the new buffs are very good and very convenient.

Unknownhero.6745:

Even if it was intended for the Azurite mats to only be available for a short time, the refinement of crystals to orbs would not change anything, once the mats are used they are gone anyway. Im going to hold onto my crystals and hope this oversight gets looked into. It would seem like a rather standard jeweler refinement like any other crystal to orb.

Except that in the meantime, some people appear to have invested hundreds of gold on the logical assumption that the game’s mechanics – even if inconsistent with other mats – is stable. The inconsistency can be explained by the fact that azurite is temporary. This was confirmed by below article (see link). The article’s contents were never corrected by Anet, and Anet has been known to correct incorrect articles (see article regarding WvW and karma vs cultural armor).

Link article: http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/04/30/flameseeker-chronicles-its-time-for-some-retribution-in-guild/

TheBlackLeech.9360:

I’m someone who plays ranger.

This is completely broken.

And I’m someone who plays a thief.

She’s level 29 but I think she should be nerfed in every respect. Starting with stealth. Get rid of it altogether, it’s OP. Also, I don’t like the warrior’s “100 blades”. Because of that skill my ranger doens’t get accepted in dungeon groups, and in PvP it’s too much effort to dodge. So remove this skill from warriors altogether. Oh, and can you please remove the clone + teleport from the mesmer in downed state? I always get confused trying to kill the real mesmer, it’s not fair.

Ps: edit: Note to forum moderator: this thread is duplicative of a thread on the ranger forum.

I’m becoming more and more angry about these “lick wounds” threads. Rangers were sitting ducks for a year. We are not entirely sitting ducks anymore, because the pet is now working as intended. But people don’t want to think when killing a ranger, they just want to dps. Like before! Because, hey, that was so nice and easy! Free glory!

But now, they have to deal with the pet, and interrupt it, the way it was designed from the start. Oh no! That requires thinking! We already have to pay so much attention when killing a mesmer, we don’t want more of that!

I’ve actually seen a mesmer saying that he wants his clones to heal him while he quietly teleports away. And I now I see warriors… (yes, it’s true!) complain about a skill that a ranger has – because they don’t have it themselves as well! It’s mind boggling. Lack of perspective is getting out of whack.

Rangers are sitting ducks when downed, we always have been. It’s easy to kill rangers in downed state. Just think before you act, and you’ll see that the downed state of other classes is superior to that of the ranger.

When you kill a Mesmer you need to know what you’re doing, right? Many class mechanics require the opponent to think rather than apply blind dps. Same with the ranger. Except this is the only class mechanic we have -which only recently started working properly – requiring others to think. And low and behold, people are up in arms because they are not used to having to handle a pet. Try CC, I’ve met enough people that can do it.

Yes. Just tested and tried this to double-check.

I’ve encountered the following over the last few days.

Sometimes, I try to buy a certain item so that the price rises a bit. However, more and more, I run into a stack that simply doesn’t go away.

Let’s take the case of ghost peppers. What I’ve done is put up 1 ghost pepper as the lowest sell order. It’s 55 copper. At least, that’s what the TP tells me, that I’m the only one. It says “1 ghost pepper” at 55 copper. No matter how many times I buy ghost peppers at the lowest sell listing (me), my sole ghost pepper remains in my “items I’m selling” listing, I cannot buy my own pepper. And the price remains as it is. But I can keep buying ghost peppers for 55 copper, which aren’t listed on the TP. Yet I can keep buying them, and I can pick them up from the trade post.

Ok, now it’s 4 ghost peppers at 55 copper. If you’re at your computer, try and buy them, see what happens.

Edit: Aaaand now it’s sold and back to “normal”. Did anyone encounter this behaviour before?
Edit number 2: Not entirely normal. If I dump something in the lowest buy order, which is 34 copper, my “items I’ve sold” tells me I sold it for 38 copper.

Now try and sell a “sentinel’s elder inscription”, and dump it in the lowest buy order. See if your calculations still work!

Lowest buy order: 1 silver 18 copper.
Sell product to lowest buy order.
You receive: 1 silver 38!
Your “Items I’ve sold” tab will tell you that you sold the item for 1 silver 56.

Now try “Bowl of Zesty Turnip Soup”.

Lowest buy order: 1 silver 39 copper
Dump item in lowest buy order.
You receive: 1 silver 30!
Your “Items I’ve sold” tab will tell you that you sold the item for 1 silver 44.

Roman Legionary.6715:

Buttercup.5871:

Roman Legionary.6715:

Buttercup.5871:

I dumped it in an invisible buy order of 2s46, for which I received 2s21.

How is this more, you baboon? Please in the name of all that is good explain to me how 2 silver 21 copper is higher than 2 silver 46 copper. LoL

I dumped it in the buy order of 2s2. Please read before calling me a baboon, before you expose yourself as one.
The whole point of this thread is that you cannot SEE the buy order of 2s46.

Obviously there is a glitch in the system or someone (it’s across all servers) put in a buy order. Four hours ago you were blaming bots, now you’re blaming hackers. Go get a job and use your brain. If you don’t use it you will surely lose it. LoL

You seem very keen on making fun of me. But if you’ve read my post, you’ll see this has been going on for days. Or, at least, that’s when I started seeing it. There’s no “glitch” in the system. It’s a gaping hole. Mind you, these buy orders should show up in GW2 spidy. Even if you take a huge delay, they still don’t. They never have.

Indeed. It’s still going on. Please go ahead, buy a sentinel’s silk insignia. Dump it in the lowest buy order. See what happens.

Roman Legionary.6715:

Buttercup.5871:

I dumped it in an invisible buy order of 2s46, for which I received 2s21.

How is this more, you baboon? Please in the name of all that is good explain to me how 2 silver 21 copper is higher than 2 silver 46 copper. LoL

I dumped it in the buy order of 2s2. Please read before calling me a baboon, before you expose yourself as one.
The whole point of this thread is that you cannot SEE the buy order of 2s46.

Please use your head man. I know there is a 15 percent tax. So how do you explain that I receive MORE than the amount at which I’m selling the item?

Aaaaand the same thing is being done with Sentinel’s Silk Insignia. Just dumped one in the highest buy order, 2s2. However, I did not dump it in there. I dumped it in an invisible buy order of 2s46, for which I received 2s21.

This post has been up for nearly three hours, yet noone is screaming murder?

Please take the TP down and purge it from these invisible buy orders. And please ban all those using such orders.

Same thing still happening with “bowl of zesty turnip soup”. Highest buy order is 1s39. I dumped one in there. Sold it for 1s61.

It’s still going on. You can test it yourself. The invisible buy order for sentinel’s elder inscription has been raised to 1s72. I received 1s55 upon selling to the highest buy order, which officially was at 1s15 (not mine).

No, my buy order was the “highest” of course, at all times when testing this. I’ll edit accordingly, thanks. Also, look at spidy. The buy order for “sentinel’s elder inscription” has never been 1s64. Officially.

I’ve observed this for a few days now. Certain items, like the sentinel’s elder inscription (now), and stuff like “bowl of zesty turnip soup”, not the most popular items in the world, have automated buying bots. What this means is that if I place the highest buy order, it won’t get filled. Anyone that puts up his item within a certain price range gets an immediate sale. This way, the item will never get close to the highest buy order, so people won’t dump their item in the buy order.

Another thing I noticed was that when I tried to buy this item (in this case: sentinel’s elder inscription) a few days ago to “push” the price up, I had to buy the same 3 elder inscriptions over and over and over again until – after having bought 30 elder inscriptions – I had finally bought those “three” elder inscriptions and the price could finally go up. It’s like there were invisible sell orders that I was buying from.

These are not high volume items with which this is happening. With the soup and the inscription, the only way I could go through the invisible barrier was to find out where the automated bot had capped its max automated buy price, and then put my buy order 1 copper above that price.

EDIT: I figured it out, stupid I didn’t think of this first. It’s in invisible buy order. I just bought a sentinel’s elder inscription, and dumped it into my own buy order, here is what happened:

My buy order is 1s14. It was the highest buy order at the time of testing.
However, when I sold the inscription to myself, I did not receive the inscription. Instead, I received 1s48. In my history, it says I sold the inscription for 1s64.

Store description has changed to: “Available for 7 days only”.

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Get your dyes now. I just tried to get the one I wanted and wasted 1500 gems.

This question has still not been answered, and it’s a very, very good question.

In the past, for all “limited in time” items it was clearly indicated that this was the case. Fused weapon skins, molten pickaxe, SAB goodies, all clearly indicated. However, nothing indicates that these dyes are sold for a “limited time” only. It only says these dyes “commemorate the final chapter of the flame and frost saga”. To my knowledge, you can commemorate stuff indefinitely. It just means you think about it, and go “hey, yea, that was fun”.

Therefore, based on the description with which they are sold (similar to the description of an item you buy in a regular store) we should be able to rely on the fact that these dyes will be sold in the gemstore indefinitely.

I agree with the above posters, it has some awesome, awesome graphics. I personally loved the room where you’re trapped and waves of fire are being spit at you left and right. Simply beautiful. Everyone in the PUG group that I entered this dungeon with had the same first reaction. The first “awesome” fell when they started digging a tunnel at the start. Then, many more of those were uttered spontaniously, at various times, and by nearly everyone in the group.

Very, very well done.

False. Some skins have barely changed in price. The GS is not the only funky skin out there.

I have no idea what is going to rise in price this time.
Any wild guesses?

Of course people bash. Remember the last time Jon came on this forum? We’re still waiting for him to deliver the promises he made 6 months ago.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/Ranger-update/first

Poof!

Eley.1907:

So, such programs as Trading Post Notifier are not considered as bots?

Use of these programs is governed by several instruments. I’ll include relevant sections from two of them, below, namely the User Agreement and the Third Party Program Policy.

User Agreement

1. Definitions

p) Service — Any online service provided by NCSOFT for the Game.
q) Software — Any software provided by NCSOFT related to the Game, including but not limited to software installed on a computer owned by You or someone else, along with any subsequent versions, enhancements, modifications, upgrades or patches to such software.

8. PROHIBITED AND IRREPARABLY HARMFUL ACTIVITIES CONCERNING NCSOFT

You acknowledge that You may not, without signed written consent from a legally authorized representative of NCSOFT, do any of the following:

(h) Use, or provide others with, any service related to the Game, including but not limited to:

- any service that interacts with the Software; or
[…]

(i) You acknowledge that You may not, without signed written consent from a legally authorized representative of NCSOFT, do any of the following:

- Use, obtain or provide data related to operation of the Game, including but not limited to:

- software that reads areas of computer memory or storage devices related to the Game;
- software that intercepts or otherwise collects data from or through the Game;
- software that redirects communications from any Software or Service; or
- software not provided by NCSOFT which creates or maintains any communication to the Software or Service, including but not limited to any software that emulates the Software or any part thereof as well as any server that emulates the Service or any part thereof;

Source: https://www.guildwars2.com/en/legal/guild-wars-2-user-agreement/

Third Party Program policy

“Our general policy is that anything that gives advantage is forbidden; anything that imbalances the game in favor of one player over another is strictly disallowed.”

“Does this program allow someone to play faster, better, longer, or more accurately than someone who doesn’t use it?”
“Does this program allow someone to ‘play’ when he/she is not at the computer?”
“Does this program allow the user to gain undeserved rewards?”
Source: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/account/Policy-3rd-Party-Programs-Multi-Boxing-Macros

Trade post notifier

From Zicore’s website, although this service is not exclusively offered by Zicore, the notifier is described as follows:

It now also notifies, when you have sold or bought stuff. You also can enable notifications of transactions, when someone is over/under-cutting you.

Source: http://notifier.zicore.de/

You can be notified of being undercut in 2 ways: with, or without using your “session key”. If you use the session key, the notification is based on “live” information. If you don’t use the session key, you’ll be notified based on information from GW2 Spidy, which is “old”, cached information. People that download this program obviously want an edge over other traders, so one can safely presume they will use the session key to get live notifications.

Conclusion:

I believe the User Agreement and the Third Party Policy are crystal clear on this issue. Using the “session key” for live notifications of undercutting is a direct violation of User Agreement Rules 8 (h) and (i), as well as the Third Party Policy.
People that use a notifier create a huge advantage over players that don’t use a third party program. This a no-brainer any way you look at it.

The only possible reason I can think of why nothing is done to combat these clear violations, is that there is no way to enforce them.

Never issue a warning you can’t enforce. And since it can’t be enforced, no warning can be issued, either.

The cost of this kit can’t be justified if you use it for this purpose. It just can’t. If you bought the gems with real money, you might as well convert them to gold, you’d probably get more in return, if that’s your aim. If you received the kit as a reward, and you don’t have many, save them for if you need to extract a superior rune of divinity or something.

People that use such programs should banned with a special in-game hammer that bashes on them while they have to watch how, each second, an item in their inventory is destroyed, and all their coin is slowly sucked into a virtual vacuum cleaner.

clay.7849:

In GW2, first, there isn’t much more than just direct damage and dodging.

What about cc? What about bunker builds strategically controlling points? Are we strictly talking about PvE in this thread?

MeveM.7913:

I’ll give you my main class as an example, Ranger.

GS: Number two is the main damage dealer, whilst it’s on CD it’s better to auto attack until it’s back off cooldown than it is to use Swoop or Hilt Bash. (Yes I know they’re utility abilities, still doesn’t get us away from Colin’s quote.)

Shortbow: Auto attacks deal more damage than any of the other four abilities, I find myself on some bosses able to go AFK while my Ranger is auto attacking the boss. Auto attack even continues if the mob runs out of range and back into range!

There’s even an option in the option menu to turn the auto attack off so instead you can feel useful slamming your face on the number one key over and over.

Bottom line is [insert huge statement based on the above examples]

Let’s look at those examples. Because based on those examples, you make some great claims.

Greatsword

As another poster said, just pressing 1 with your GS is a waste of dps. I use swoop (leap finisher) almost whenever it’s off cooldown; in fact, I probably use it much more than the 2 ability. You can dish out tons of damage by swooping through a combo field. Try and use ranged traps; basically, throw a ranged trap on the mob(s), and leap into your mob(s). You can even do this while you’re pounding on the mob, you don’t have to jump from outside the field. A fire bubble around is fantastic extra (aoe) damage, and it lasts relatively long as well [5 seconds, with a minimum of 328 damage per second, with an added (0.25 * your condition damage from gear) per second]. Additionally, in PvE, you can buy consumables from karma vendors that will give you, for example, a chaos field on demand that you can set off with swoop.
If you want to just “swing your sword”, be my guest. But there’s many more combinations out there that you might want to experiment with.

Shortbow

Your shortbow example is only valid if the boss fight requires you to stand still, all the other party members are alive at all times, the boss isn’t chasing you (so you don’t need cripple, #4 or evade/swiftness, #3), the boss doesn’t have self-heal abilities (ie. reduced heal from poison isn’t necessary, on #2), the boss doesn’t have interruptible high damage skills that your party members are suffering from (paralyze, #5) and you didn’t spec sufficient condition damage for poison (#2) or bleed – from you (#1) or your pet (#4) – to matter. Yea, then spamming 1 works. But the fact that you’re not pulling aggro at all is indicative that you’re not dealing enough damage, and you should consider changing your build, gear or your playstyle to do more damage.

By the way, this does not mean that I believe the ranger (main main as well) is on par with other classes (because it isns’t). It just means you shouldn’t just “swing your sword”. Especially if you’re a ranger.

He’s completely ignoring the trade off that you’ll be hitting people with a wet towel. The damage loss of using these runes with that food is very significant. And let’s not forget that 40 per cent comes from the food, not the runes. To put it even further in perspective, only the sixth bonus gives 15 per cent reduction.

I’m sorry this makes no sense. It’s a mistake in the tooltip. Mind you there are dozens of those still around. Go ask the rangers.

Is this the same Jon “poof here I am” Peters that made the exact same promises before – which were to be implemented half a year ago? You know, the guy that only reappeared once is in own thread, that had over 10k posts and 200k views?
Sorry. I no longer believe that guy.

I’ve been trying it too for the last few days. Knight’s + melandru runes + lemongrass soup. While yes it makes you more survivable – in some situations – I’m not too impressed with my loot, ie. my damage contribution in WvW and PvE. It’s a big trade off, and I wasn’t even dying with my previous armor.

I’m simply stunned by the audacity of some of the exploiters in here.

“Really mister officer sir, the door to the jewelry store was right open, how was I supposed to know I was not supposed to call all my buddies, put that jewelry in empty bags, and sell it afterwards? Do you know how much work it was to bring all those empty bags to that store, and sell all that jewelry afterwards? It’s unfair mister officer sir, it’s just unfair.”

It will tank more until ppl have their dyes and are used to the seeing fused skins. Then it will rise again.

If you picked a female character with medium armor, and you do NOT like trenchcoats, your options are rather limited.

Not so fast buddy. The rules are nice, but if a court finds – based on national gambling laws – this practice constitutes gambling in their country, no agreement you sign can invalidate that ruling. Also, I get a bit tired of quoting the same jurisprudence over and over that you can have “ownership”, like you own your passport (which is, technically, property of the state), over a virtual item. Regardless of the user agreement.

If a casino were to introduce blue chips, and made you sign an agreement that they hold no value, but nonetheless these chips allowed you to buy, say, green chips. And with those green chips, boy can you go nuts on that roulette table! Knowing full well that there’s this guy at the back door that’s willing to pay top dollar for some of the prizes you can win at that table. You think a court would say this establishment was legal?

Again, the reason why this isn’t gambling, the conclusion with which I agree, is not in the user agreement, or veiled attempt by a company to hide gambling. It’s the threshold (which, apparantly the card game , “magic: the gathering” does not meet, even in Germany) for what makes something gambling, and the lack of any interested party to enforce compliance in the event that there would be gambling involved, that is the problem.

I’m not versed in German law, so I hope your comment was directed at the right person. But you’re basically rehashing what has been stated before, including what has been said about those card packs you can buy. With which i said I agreed. The dragon chest comparison, however, goes nowhere and only dilutes the discussion.

I think I understand his point, despite some flawed anaologies of chips in casinos (can’t convert gems to money, unlike chips). He says it doesn’t matter whether you can buy the gems with gold. The fact that you can buy them with money is what counts. According to him, this triggers his national gambling laws, where you need a permit to even hold a raffle.

Edit: I like the card deck analogy. If those “magic, the gathering” cards can be sold in Germany, so can black lion keys.

hildegain.2106:

Your argument falls down to hypotheticals and pedantry at best. It doesn’t really matter if the system was designed for this purpose, it is being used in this way and I don’t see any real way in which it could be abused. (I’d like to hear of a realistic way in which it could be)

Wait, let me get this straight. Because I have not yet suffered from this system, which I argue allows for abuse, my arguments and concerns are hypothetical, and therefore flawed?

So let’s say someone always brings his machete to my workplace. He does so because he says he needs it to slice his bread. According to you, I cannot protest to this, because I myself have not yet been sliced up by a machete yet? And, of course, it’s only important how the machete is being used, right – to slice bread – not how it can be used instead?

If you do not see the potential for the abuse of the contact list yet, then ask for it. But do so politely, without being condescending, and while respecting the rules of this forum and the players that attend it. This brings me to your remark that my concerns are pendantic. Do you actually believe that my privacy concerns, including those stated by the OP and others in this thread, are petty and irrelevant?

Needless to say that your continued personal attacks only reinforce my arguments that we need more privacy.

hildegain.2106:

Buttercup.5871:

hildegain.2106:

Buttercup.5871:

you’re stalking botters. Or, to put it more correctly, persons that you believe to be botters (sorry, I’m a lawyer, I couldn’t help myself)

I doubt that you’re a lawyer when you consider the 1-2minute checking of suspicious behaviour on a non-person to be “stalking”.

But, but, I am! Haha! The lawyer comment related to “persons you believe to be botters”. Because they’re not botters until Anet labels them as such (“innocent until proven guilty”, that kind of thing).

Now, whether your habit is to do “1-2 minute checking” is irrelevant; other people can do a 1-2 hour checking. It’s the potential use of this list that is tricky; your individual behaviour (or, more precisely, the behaviour as you state it to be on this forum, which may or may not be true for all we know) when using this list is entirely irrelevant in this context.

You sound more like a politician than a lawyer. When a person exhibits behaviours and/or glitches such as the botters would, it’s natural that people would become suspicious, would perform their own small investigation and botters would be reported.

I’m sure you’re well aware that botters are only caught and found guilty by Arenanet because some players get suspicious, investigate and then report. What you’re suggesting is that these people are guilty of breaching privacy, which they are not.

Please, don’t apply the idea of “real world following a person down a dark alley” to watching out for botting behaviour. It’s not even remotely the same. It could be more akin to stalking if the person in question were looking for email addresses and information gathering on a large scale of that individual, but we’re not.

Again, I’m seriously doubting that you’re a lawyer, I could say that I’m a cosmonaut and people would either have to take my word for it until I say something silly that arouses suspicions to the contrary or they could just outright think that because I brought that up in the context of a space debate in order to claim authority on the subject that I’m more than likely lying.

When in doubt of your own argument, make it personal! Ha! Because my personal background is much more important than my argument, right? Please believe what you want. I didn’t include my background to give weight to my argument, I included it to indicate where my nit-picky remark came from.

And yes, I am glad that people report botters. I do, too. However, I highly doubt that using the contact list for this purpose was intended in this manner, and see the real potential for its abuse. Whether you, personally, do not abuse it is irrelevant to me. Edit: your personal attacks in this thread are however one of the reasons why I would even more strongly argue that my privacy in-game be protected in a better way, since my forum name allows you to stalk me without my consent. Again, whether you do so is irrelevant to my argument; the fact that you can is scary enough.

To me, it would be much more logical that people send a friend/contact invite, which the other person must accept. Without mutual consent, there should be no appearance on anyone’s contact list. Plain and simple. I also believe that there should be an in-game setting that you can set to “invisible” by default, so that noone sees you the moment you log in. This would be particulary useful to people that are part of two guilds, but – in order to avoid spite – do not want to show everyone that they’re online, playing in the other guild at that particular time. Particularly in a game that promotes membership of several guilds, the availability of this setting should be a no-brainer.

To sum up and kill of the quasi legal debate here.

1. In-game, virtual goods, can be considered goods in the traditional sense of the words, even if the gaming company is the ultimate owner of that good (see my last post on page 3 of this thread) – this is similar to the state owning your passport. Your passport is a good that can be stolen, despite ultimate ownership by the state, because you have exclusive “user control” over.
Another key component to whether a virtual good can be considered a good in the traditional sense of the word is that it has monetary value to the persons playing it. Whether the user agreement specifies that in-game items have no real life value is irrelevant in this context.

2. Acquiring fused weapons through BL chests cannot be labelled online gambling, because you can buy the necessary keys to open those chests with in-game money, acquired through in-game means. Other than that, the monetary value of the keys do not meet most national thresholds (ie. how much $$ would you need for 1 ticket) to receive the label of “online gambling”. I see that one player quoted what gambling is; however, he failed to include the other provisions on gambling. As a result, we’ll all filling our prisons with old ladies that tried to organize a community raffle (1st prize: a gin rummy card deck! wohoo, bring it on!). Also note that the enforcement of gambling in most European countries is practically non-existent. The Netherlands is a good example; legally speaking, only 1 casino has the right to operate (“Holland Casino”) because they’re the only one who was granted a permit to do so. Nonentheless, I can assure you that Holland Casino is not the only casino to operate in the Netherlands; other casinos have done so for years, and they are able to operate publicly. Enforcement against online gambling has been dependent on law suits by the permit holder (I believe until now, only 1 company received such a permit), arguing that their business is harmed by the competitor that holds no permit.

3. Anet doesn’t spam you with adds to use money to buy keys. Anet doesn’t add an incentive to use real life money over in-game money to get the necessary keys, either.

In other words: the responsiblity is on you. The odds are against you, and you know it. So act accordingly.

hildegain.2106:

Buttercup.5871:

you’re stalking botters. Or, to put it more correctly, persons that you believe to be botters (sorry, I’m a lawyer, I couldn’t help myself)

I doubt that you’re a lawyer when you consider the 1-2minute checking of suspicious behaviour on a non-person to be “stalking”.

But, but, I am! Haha! The lawyer comment related to “persons you believe to be botters”. Because they’re not botters until Anet labels them as such (“innocent until proven guilty”, that kind of thing).

Now, whether your habit is to do “1-2 minute checking” is irrelevant; other people can do a 1-2 hour checking. It’s the potential use of this list that is tricky; your individual behaviour (or, more precisely, the behaviour as you state it to be on this forum, which may or may not be true for all we know) when using this list is entirely irrelevant in this context.

On the TP, I make more money from the COF automatons than the automatons make from running COF. And I do this while playing parts of the game that are actually fun.

OP: don’t follow the blob. There are way better – and more fun – ways to make money in this game. Just spend an evening or two to work it out, and your gaming experience will improve significantly for the rest of your time in Guild Wars 2.

I think the OP is talking about apothecary gear. There, the price would somewhat make sense, although I doubt people will buy it. But just do the calculations: you need 20 karka shells, of which each shell costs roughtly 6 silver. Then add the other components, such as spools of silk or mithril plated dowels. Conclusion: people selling apothecary stuff should have sold the components instead, because they’re making a net loss making apothecary gear; moreover, noone is going to buy their product, either.

@Mirta: while I find it admirable that you’re trying to catch botters, you’re not playing a game in order to police it. To be quite frank, I’ve never seen a friend list being used in this manner. All things considered, it’s rather disturbing that a friend list can be used in this manner, because effectively, you’re stalking botters. Or, to put it more correctly, persons that you believe to be botters (sorry, I’m a lawyer, I couldn’t help myself).

Hearte.6852:

True, but by that token, why not take it a step further and remove the blade as well? Just leave the hilt. Then it would truly be unique and magnificent, much like the Emperor’s new clothes.

Quoting this for pure awesomeness.

kokiman.2364:

Eternity is the combined legendary, right? You knew how it would look like so why do you complain now?

This response makes no sense, and reeks purely of spite. Why is he not allowed to state his opinion regarding what is by far the most expensive item in the game?

And he’s right, it is a ripoff. There is no added benefit to making this weapon, other than the “account medal” you get on your login screen. On combining sunrise and twilight, worth some 4500g, you lose the footprint effect, and you no longer get to choose which effect you prefer at that time; “day” and “night” will dictate how your weapon looks when you whip it out.

(In fact, it’s incredibly silly that neither sunrise nor twilight are even counted as legendaries, as making either of these weapons will not award you with the “legendary” account medal – only eternity will.)

And no, I don’t have eternity, and I don’t have sunrise or twilight either. In fact, I’m not even aiming to get either one. This doesn’t mean I can’t have an opinion on it though.

I like elves too, but we have the Sylvari already. Anet took the whole concept of “tree elf” very literally though.

However, having said that… bring out the Tengu!

There were plans from the very start to make the Tengu a playable race. C’mon devs, dig out that old usb stick from the office drawer in the far corner of your storage basement…. and give the Tengu life!

You completely missed the point of these mba’s. If 1 sliver costs 5 silver, and 1 fragment costs 40 silver, you get 1,2 gold profit per mba (so 1,2 gold per laurel). Not only that, you’re bumping it up to the next level so that eventualy someone else will too, incrasing the lodestone supply in the long run.

No, it’s a bubble.