Guild Wars 2

shinreigari.7318:

I actually only make human females because of their broad hips. Most armors look good on them.
The huge, balloon-like breasts are a bit annoying on that body type though.

If that’s your only reason and you want something with a little less bust, you might take a look at the female Sylvari. Those hips don’t lie.

OT, I main a human because GW1 descendent. Original, right? I also play a charr seriously. Two mains really.

This is coming from someone who used to be strictly a one character guy. Now I play two, and occasionally flirt with other options who may or may not be mules.

Sellaista se on.

I never understood why so many people dislike Trahearne. I thought he was a great character. He’s a flawed being.

He has fears, ambitions, hopes, dreams. He’s very relatable, very human, be it he’s a Sylvari. The Mary Sue thing doesn’t stick. He’s not a perfect in every way character.

The overarching thing I get from most people is that he steals your thunder, but he really doesn’t. The campaign against Zhaitan wouldn’t have been successful without the PC.

And yes, he get’s a really cool sword. It’s his. You get like, a million billion cool swords. Trahearne can have one.

Mourningcry.9428:

Much thanks, Mr. Smith.

He’s an agent… of good.

Jemmi.6058:

I feel you did not fully grasp the meaning of my post. You said that it is useless to add a tool that is convenient, because there are other methods of doing the task. I was saying that it is silly to say that convenient tools are useless, because there are other ways of doing said tasks, by providing some examples.

I can respect the reasoning of many that they feel it will foster elitism etc. I do disagree with that, however. I cannot respect the reasoning that there is already a way to do it, so don’t make it better. This is how we progress as a society, we are constantly tweaking things, adding tools and modifying ways to improve the ways we do the same tasks. There doesn’t have to be a problem to fix, there can simply be progress.

-snip-

I disagree that this kind of thing encourages what you think it encourages.

You’re free to feel that way. However, the objective fact of the matter is that this kind of behavior is already apparent with the gear ping mechanic.

It follows that adding something that takes this a step even further, an invasive /inspect option, would simply empower this mindset.

It would exasperate what is only a minor fringe problem.

I’m still trying to understand your logic here: You consider it inconvenient to CTRL click your gear into chat, yet you want an option to type out /inspect to gain the same result?

Seriously?

Well, you know what? I just solved everyone’s problem: If typing /inspect literally just CTRL clicked all your gear in chat for folks to see, I’d be okay with it.

If it’s something that can be forced out of a player or used on the player without the players consent, that’s not okay.

I respect the right a min/max gamer has to play the game in anyway they see fit, but that right ends where my freedom of choice and a right to privacy begins.

It’s none of your business what I’m using or what I’m running unless I choose to share with you.

Making an elaborate gear check mechanism beyond what is already in place is folly.

You talk to folks, you get to know them, you get together with honest and like minded individuals to do whatever you want in the game.

Gear ping works wonderfully to that end. It’s a perfect compromise between things. You can share or choose not too.
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If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

Jemmi.6058:

Given that logic, you should remove all tools which are there simply for convenience and time saving.

By your logic, we should remove ponies from the game because they’re completely out of place in GW2. Except there are no ponies in GW2 to remove.

There is no /inspect function. You’re asking or else arguing in favor of one.

Jemmi.6058:

OK, I hope you can agree with me that removing these items would be silly. That is how I feel about your comment in regards to “You can already do it, so adding a tool that makes it better is useless!”

I didn’t say not to add it because it was useless. I made my reasons clear.

Jemmi.6058:

Especially being as you are wrong.

Brilliant objective argument. Allow me a rebuttal – no u

Jemmi.6058:

1. When someone does not reply to a whisper or is Akitten and I am trying to figure out their gear, what do I do?

You build a bridge and get over it. People aren’t obligated to answer your questions. They may just be kittens like that. Look up http://www.gw2armorgallery.com/

Jemmi.6058:

2. See my story about my ESL guildmate

I’m sorry for your mate, but this is akin to asking for the mouse macro not to get me banned because my hand hurts if I play too long.

They’re not going to destroy their game for the potential convenience of a choice few honest folks. Many more will use the occasion for less then noble purposes.

Jemmi.6058:

3. Should I ask anyone I see better than me to ping their gear? Can you imagine that being successful and not annoying?

So then, are you beginning to see now why some folks might not be too keen on the idea of a /inspect option?

People can already and do hassle them for their gear choices in game. That option is already there and people do use it.

A /inspect function would take this a step even further. It’s not at all necessary, given the element this kind of thing encourages.

Jemmi.6058:

I want it for:
1. Finding out the names of aesthetically pleasing gear when I pass strangers, sometimes when I whisper and ask what they are wearing they do not respond
2. Assisting friends and guildmates fine tune their gear and identify areas for improvement
3. To inspect better players, so that I can identify my own areas of weakness and/or come up with new ideas for builds

And if you couldn’t already do all of those things in game right now with the gear ping mechanic, you’d have a point.

But you can.

IndigoSundown.5419:

The two sides in this debate are never going to come to agreement. Why not look for a solution that might be responsive to both groups’ concerns? An opt-out on inspect might also work, but /inspect has a negative stigma that ping gear does not seem to share.

An /inspect function would be going a step further then is needed, and would enable a toxic community element. It would favor one mindset of gamer over the other.

The system in place is a perfect equilibrium. It’s not wise to mess with that.

Wethospu.6437:

So community is healthy when you have to kick people mid-run when they run so horrible builds?

It’s an MMO. You can’t control what other people will do with themselves as it relates to you to any honest degree.

If you play and plan to cooperate with other people, good or bad, your time is at their mercy no matter what.

Your solution in particular is to find better people to run with that don’t run horrible builds. You’ll find plenty of efficiency minded people out there.

You don’t need a /inspect function for that.

Nikaido.3457:

CETheLucid.3964:

Why do you want to go a step further? Why do you need a /inspect that the game doesn’t already cover in the gear ping mechanic?

Because people can and do lie. They still get kicked mid run because it’s obvious when someone is lying but it would be preferable to avoid that pest altogether.

And what would a /inspect do to stop the same thing from happening? It’s a piece of cake to carry two sets of gear.

Set one to pass /inspect
Set two to put on after we get in

You still have the same problem with people who would lie. Only now you’ve enabled and curried favor with a particular mindset over another with a /inspect function.

Erewhon.2590:

You’re right, maybe I can find some other sucker to pay for me while I duel in his arena =P

Generous people = suckers ?

Right… good day to you.

Jemmi.6058:

From my POV right now, the people who are anti inspect and anti LFG auto groupers etc are the ones who sound the most elitist.

You alredy have a /inspect: talk to people. If you demand everyone ping their gear for efficiency, you can make that request of folks. People already do that.

Why do you want to go a step further? Why do you need a /inspect that the game doesn’t already cover in the gear ping mechanic?

Erewhon.2590:

“all players will be able to purchase custom arena kits from the gem store! You’ll also be able to get custom arena time tokens, which you can use to add rental time to your own custom arena”

What did I miss?

Do you plan on opening your own arena? Think about it for a moment.

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

Broadicea.8294:

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

No, I don’t care to group with Elitists, but I don’t care to enable them either. I don’t want to reinforce that their ‘attitude’ is ok, when it in fact is not.

Its like giving a crack addict his next dosage. Are you an addict no? So it doesn’t affect you right? Wrong.

You don’t hand someone trying to commit suicide a gun or a razor blade.

You don’t enable the behavior that you are trying to reduce/get rid of.

Why can’t you let us play the way we want to play? You won’t be in our groups, we won’t bother you in map chat, in fact you’ll only ever glimpse us as we pass by each other in Lion’s Arch. Why do you have to be so controlling?

Why can’t you let me play how I want to play? I want to not have to worry about someone giving me crap because I choose to wear x over y, or because I choose to use a staff over daggers.

Why are you so controlling in telling me that I have to accept being inspected, whether I want to or not. Even if not by you specifically, by someone else. Potentially someone that has nothing to do with my play, just wants to be a kitten to someone.

The ‘let me play my way’ argument goes both ways. Your desire for /inspect infringes on my desire to be /inspect free. Both arguments are valid and have merit. However, its also the weakest argument that one can offer.

Don’t really have much to add except that I agree with you almost entirely, and thank you for taking the time to argue the negative of a /inspect function.

It’s not a good idea at all.

Erewhon.2590:

Ahhh, yes of course, I have to buy my time token and continually pay my arena rental fee, warp to a specific zone and join the custom server in order to duel. That is excellent support

Yeah… you didn’t read that at all.

Err, they do? Arenas. Have you read about them?

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/introducing-custom-pvp-arenas-and-spectator-mode-beta/

Reporting back after checking the website today.

I didn’t do any of that complicated jazz in my first post. I changed my DNS back to my ISP, I have Java disabled (because it’s a security risk more often then not), all my cookie and pop-up blockers are on…

It works just fine now!

Thank you Anet, for whatever you did to make it work! I really appreciate it as a GW1 player still working on my HoM rewards for GW2!

I also have a bit of practical advice for people who are getting ‘the connection has been reset’ error.

Firefox and many browsers want to encrypt all the websites you go to by adding https:// to every address.

If you mouse over to the ‘Services’ tab on the website above here and click on Hall of Monuments, the URL linked is https://hom.guildwars2.com/

This doesn’t play nice with the HoM. Simply remove the ‘s’ from the URL so it looks like this: http://hom.guildwars2.com/

No more connection reset error. I was able to reach the site before, but it didn’t load right for me until now. So thank you again Anet for the fix! Woo!

I uninstalled and updated my flash player, enabled Java, disabled my ad and pop-up blockers, flushed my DNS, tried the google DNS and redid these same steps while on the google DNS, flushed the DNS again before hand…

Nothing works. It still loads all messed up. I’m on Firefox 21.

Im Mudbone.1437:

Sorry makes absolutely no sense, they changed the other dungeons but not this one. What is harder/different about this one dungeon/path that makes it harder than the others to change? NEXT

Because CoF farming didn’t really pick up until the AC changes?

CoF will get it’s changes shortly, and whatever faceroll run people come up with to take it’s place will be dealt with accordingly until everything is sorted. Savvy?

It’s not going to be a simple nerf they’ll do if that’s what you’re expecting.

Im Mudbone.1437:

I asked this in another thread and will ask it here too, for all the know it alls and others.
Why is it JUST CoF p1 that ANET allows to be farmed and not ALL dungeons/paths? Anyone have insight/thoughts on this?

Julie Yann.5379:

Cause they can’t just nerf the rewards in the dungeon like they do in open world. They are probably working on redesigning the instance like they did to other dungeons and that takes more work.

This is right. CoF is probably going to get the AC treatment, maybe a bit harder since it’s a higher level dungeon.

If thieves can’t shank you, they’re dead in one-two hits… your complaint is that the thief shanked you successfully.

Some thieves are complaining because they failed to shank you, and they died in one-two hits.

That’s the sum of the thief argument, you all can go home now.

CKres.4589:

I like to farm. it makes me happy killing monsters and getting loots from them.

That’s reasonable. We all want phat loots from the things we have to take out.

However, most reasonable people can’t tolerate doing the same exact method in the same exact way in the same exact place for hours on end.

Unless you’re a bot… or a small minority of strange ducks who, being presented with countless more effificent and fun methods to make the progress and reward needed…

Choose instead a method of monotonous bot-like behavior.

If it’s between safeguarding their game from bots or upsetting a very small minority of Patrick dreamers, they’re going to protect their game. As they should.

Sorry, Patrick-gamer. You’ll just have to do something more exciting. Or else find another quarter.

Gandarel.5091:

Btw that’s King Adelbern. Not adelburn. You had this typo like 50 times

Oops ~

Gandarel.5091:

Mine is not a guess, it is in the GW2 data. Official enough.

I didn’t say your map wasn’t official.

I do see a contradiction that brings the data used to make the globe into question per the Movement of The World.

It’s not 100% accurate. There is a glaring flaw. So you have no solid foundation to assert your statements. You have a very imperfect (albeit impressive) globe/map.

So your guess as to the current state of Cantha, even based on this map, is only that.

frans.8092:

Which clearly states that Cantha is cut off from the rest, not that is was sunken. It also states that occasionally Canthan sailors make it to maguuma’s southern shores.

Okay. I did not say Cantha was gone.

I did say it is (probably) there. Based on what’s come up, I can almost be certain it’s there. In what state, we do not know.

But, I believe we digress… quite a bit. We should really get back on topic.
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If you want to know how I feel about the charr from a human perspective in detail, you can read my postings in this thread here from page 2 onward:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/races/human/Do-you-feel-bad-for-the-Ghosts-of-Ascalon/page/2

Gasoline.2570:

I’m not the only one adressing this. True story.

Of course not. I wasn’t picking on you in particular. It’s a very common thing. This is why we have threads complaining about drop nerfs all the time.

In this particular instance regarding the Lyssa temple event stalling people were doing to farm, it is true. Jeffrey Vaughn confirmed it. The drop rate was nerfed for this event.

Moreover, people just “feel” that way when they’re in a particularly stagnant bout of no rares or exotics.

It’s not been nerfed all around, though it may seem that way for you at times.

http://muller.lbl.gov/teaching/physics10/old%20physics%2010/chapters%20%28old%29/4-Randomness.htm

While you’re getting nothing, someone else is getting two exotics and another just got a precursor. While you’re getting a precursor, someone else is getting a lot of nothing.

Sometimes two people are getting precursors, and one is getting an exotic. And other times, insert endless possible scenarios here.

True randomness is exceedingly kind, exceedingly cruel, and exceedingly moderate and always without any rhyme or reason.

MF does improve your odds and quality of drops overall, but this is no guarantee to the end of getting what you want.

A chance, even a better one, remains only a chance. It is not a certainty.

There is no certain criteria or steps you can follow to get A from B in terms of the loot table. There is no method of influencing that beyond MF.

(If you’ll notice with the Secret of Southsun Cove event, one of the buffs is a huge MF buff along gold find buff; it’s a pretty safe bet Anet’s testing things for improvements in drop rates.)

As soon as you understand this, you can begin to have fun seeing that doing anything much else with the same frequency is just as likely to get you the same gain.

Or despair as your dependable monotonous repetition isn’t going to yield you a dependable monotonous reward.

As the case may be.

Hang in there, farmer. Anet’s pretty good at pleasing all of the people some of the time. Maybe they’ll work something out for you.

Or maybe this game just isn’t for you. There’s no shortage of grindy/farmy MMO’s out there for you.

Gasoline.2570:

Well my experience is complete opposite. But somehow I just cannot believe all you “lucky” people with no magic find getting exotics all day all night.

That’s because you’re a terrible judge of true chaos and the matter of fact frustrates your brains natural inclination to find patterns in things.

True story.

Moreover, don’t leave your keyboard in a danger zone and wonder why you ended up a casualty.

Port to a safe spot or a town.

Galtrix.7369:

Guild Wars 1 players were familiar with the cash shop for items that don’t affect power or pvp, and when Guild Wars 2 added the diamond/gold trade, most Guild Wars 1 players were smart enough to see the direction that Guild Wars 2 was going to take, which is removing pretty much all sources of easy income so most people will just buy diamonds and switch them to gold. At the moment that Anet started slowly decreasing the drop rate on good items, most players from Guild Wars 1 left, including myself. So, in short, Anet wants you to spend money to get fake money, to increase your satisfaction in a fake game. Hope that answers your question.

Nope.

You have the option to legitimately (as opposed to illegitimately, as many gamers do) buy fake money with real money to increase your monetary needs and satisfaction in game.

Doing this get’s you $$$ in game, or else skins, novelty items, and various temporary boosts akin to food buffs, which you can make for free.

Moreover, the food buffs tend to be better. That’s by design.

GW2 isn’t P2W. The person who chooses to use gems simply get’s the means to the end faster then the one who chooses to work for it in game for free.

There’s no latent advantage present in getting there faster if once everyone arrives there, you’re all on equal footing.

Arriving “there” at the end game is a casual friendly experience, to the degree that many ‘hardcore’ players complain about that (as they do everything else).

The only honest grind in the game is there by design, and you get nothing for it beyond a pretty skin with particle effects and bragging rights.

There is no preferential treatment for the person who uses gems, beyond the convenience the purchase gives them.

Maybe the warm fuzzy feeling that you’re helping support a game you enjoy enough to spend additional income on then is necessary.

Absent a farm or grind to blame things on, forum begins arguing RNG isn’t fair because chaos is chaos and randomness is a player hater.

Except when it’s not. But kitten it all, make it better!

Gandarel.5091:

http://huntersinsight.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/planettyria.jpg

Thisis the accurate map. Maybe 20% of Shing Jea is flooded but nothing more, instead got a landbridge to the main continent.

But yeah, on another version the battle isles was shown much farther from Cantha.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/The_Movement_of_the_World

So, it’s a mostly accurate map/globe then.

Mine is from a known time. Yours takes liberty to what’s going on out where we can’t see. Ergo, assumptions. Your guess isn’t any better then mine.

Both our sources come from the games. We don’t know what’s happening out there at present or what it actually looks like with any certainty.

That said, it really is an amazing map. The Order of Whispers did some impressive work there. Anet created a fascinating world.

Snooping around I found some of these awesome renders of the globe and the map.

http://i.imgur.com/EaotU.png
http://i.imgur.com/R40p6.jpg

Very cool. Tyria is a biiig place. Definitely more landmass or else a bigger planet as whole then the real world.

Gandarel.5091:

I wrote it because you wrote that most of Cantha could be underwater because of the rising of Orr, just because the Battle Isles were flooded and you tought Cantha is so close to those isles that the same happened.. And you are wrong. Very, very wrong.

Okay?

Okay~

The Battle Isles are a huge distance from Orr, yet they’re still completely underwater. Distance didn’t save the Battle Isles.

The Battle Isles are closer to Cantha then the other continents. In game dialogue drops hints to a flooded Cantha.

But maybe you’d make a better point if you provided a map or something.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/a/a2/Tyria_world_fan_map_%28freestyle%29.jpg
http://huntersinsight.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/map-of-tyria.gif

Shing Jea Island is probably gone. Most of Kaineng and some of the northern parts of the Echovald Forest and the Jade Sea are probably gone.

Istan is probably gone. Gandara and a good bit of the Kourna coast is probably all underwater. Vabbi and all of the Desolation are almost completely unscathed.

The Crystal Desert is mostly unscathed.

How the heck Fire Island Chain is still there at all, I have no idea. Though it is a chain of volcanoes.

Maybe it got really active out there and made itself come back out the water over the years. /shrug

Gandarel.5091:

Cantha is farther from the Battle Isles than the distance between the southest point of Elona to Kryta. So more than a continent away from Orr, from where the flood came.

Okay?

A charr without a warband has no surname.

If they do, it’s more a nickname then anything especially meaningful (see Maakel the Immortal). When Roxx lost her warband, misfortune had made her a gladium.

By becoming part of Rytlock’s warband, she’s no longer a gladium and so she has been given a new surname with the stone warband.

Arduin.3029:

Deathdance probably misread your ’babelfish’’ comment.

Not that this discussion is going anywhere soon if you both keep this up.

Fair enough. I’ve said what I’ve needed to say. I’m out. Peace.

Deathdance.2045:

oh, a “lets talk about our age” debate, nice, keep going

/sigh trols gonna trol, so sad, pretending to be mature is quite common nowadays

Yeah, I… didn’t say that. lol

Deathdance.2045:

AS i said before, go see ALL the videos, not going to state everything if you havent see them, really “need to do it better” ? no, not at all, you just proved that you didnt see them all just because you asweer to the only thing i stated, really, i didnt state ANY video and you dont even mention them to prove other thing? its nice to see how you do not prove your point in any way just ansewring to the phrases they state you, and basically about my way of typing english i didnt even care to put the words right not to event put the vocals and silabes on the right way, because you just prove that you cant state anything more out of the words i put on the reply, really, go and came with any of your arguments based on what ANET said.

Go and try stating something yourself out of my just 2 phrases about the game, try stating your arguments based on what they say on videos, really so sad, do it better.

Talking about the way someone types? whats next? a debate about our age? gender? even where are we born? so sad, trols “gonna” trols, hard to get anywhere with someone that tries to be o “on the ride” makeing the others look they arent, without proveing what he sais is true, go get somewhere that says ANET is the way you talk, i do it before, just state 2 out of ALL the thing out there.

If you expected to say every phrase on every video so you can prove them worng, without you saying any about your statements, so mature, try arguing in a more brainly way than the politics do.

I… have to take that whole improving your English thing back now. Don’t take it personally.

I’d love to respond to you, but I can’t make sense of what you’re saying. I’m sorry.

Trying my best I get the idea that you’re saying you don’t agree with me, I’m a troll, and you don’t have to provide any honest evidence for your claims because reasons and… babelfish stuff.

Hmm.

/shrug

Rednik.3809:

miriforst.1290:

CETheLucid

I can imagine the reaction of kryta when they find a small fraction of the canthan expansion fleet (still the largest force the continent of Tyria has seen since forever) docking up on the shores of kryta. The krytans would be like: “oh-… h-hey guys, long time no see-… Palls right?.. Guys?-…Guys??!!”. The charr would be laughing their tails off when the Canthan fleet declare Tyria a colony under the empire, that is until they realize that by Tyria they also include Ascalon and Maguuma (the shiverpeaks are cold and useless in their eyes, so that will remain terra incognita for them). It also gets awkward when they realize that if they can go from tents and loincloth to tanks in 250 years of internal turmoil and civil war, a gigantic unified empire with a good deal of a headstart under the iron fist of the canthan emperors can go even further. “Airships? Cool, we brought our inter-dimensional cruisers along. Hope you like nuclear winter by the way!.”

It would be hilarious to see the charr get beaten in their own game of conquest on the battlefield. Of course then i wouldn’t be speaking to you as a working resident of kryta, but as the loyal citizen RKC-ED-13365 helping our great empire (eternal life to the emperor) to achieve its full potential for the good of all of us and in no way supporting the rebels (may they find themselves in a pit full of kappas). “Remember, a working citizen is a happy citizen!”

I for one welcome our new canthan overlords.

Worth it though.

Would be epic if the Canthan expansion would be introduced like this, a month long occupation of the entirety of Tyria. Until we lead the colonists to rebel against their old empire.

EDIT: Or we manage to make Cantha believe we are a loyal colony (since for cantha we are not THAT important) while in reality the “occupiers” just merged with the rest of the population once they realize we got it nicer here.

I should remind you about fate of China Empire. Isolation and lack of strong external enemies with comparable technological and military capabilities – this is one of the worst things that can happen with your country. It corrupts the army to a state of internal police where command posts are sinecure for pompous aristocracy, it’s inhibits the development of technical sciences, the best stimulus for which historically have been studies for the military, it’s limits the development of a culture which is cut off from foreign cultures. Isolation means stagnation and lagging in any progress, it can not help to get stronger, only weaker.

Yup. That’s about right.

You have to remember that Cantha did not escape the movement of the world unscathed. What was the Battle Isles in GW1 are likely all underwater now.

Cantha as such being so near to the Battle Isles suffered a similar fate.

Cantha’s (probably) still there, but I’d imagine it’s certainly not a human utopia. A closed off xenophobic dictatorial monarchy is never a good thing.

Unless you’re royalty or blessed to work for such, your quality of life is otherwise zilch.

It’s landmass is in all likelihood considerably less then what it was. Most of Cantha was probably reclaimed by the sea.

They were already living in tight quarters due to overpopulation in the past. It does not bode well for the Canthan empire.

The humans of Tyria are doing considerably better in that light. Maybe we’ll know for sure someday.

Astralporing.1957:

Yes, because, obviously, box gambling is all about gameplay.

It’s not by any stretch of the imagination.

You can spend the rest of your time in game and not worry about a single BLC or crate, ever. You choose to play the game that way… and then blame the game for it.

Think about that.

If you can’t enjoy this game without box gambling, if you can’t leave the box gambling alone, you may have a problem.

You may be done with this game if the sum of your in game time is box gambling.

Deathdance.2045:

D.D : “The look of Guild Wars 2 is stylized. We’re going for a painterly, illustrated aesthetic. Everything in our world feels handcrafted and artisanal. We treat our environments as if they are characters themselves.”

R.S: “As a structure, the MMO has lost the ability to make the player feel like a hero. Everybody around you is doing the same thing you are doing. The boss you just killed respawns ten minutes later. It doesn’t care that I’m there.”

word of some Manifesto out there of we know what game we are talking about, just dont pointing names to not make the post closed, i would go on stating every phrase in every video but, i can see that you didnt even pay attention to thouse so basically, dont see that you are well informed to talk about the matter

If we havve to discuss we can discuss all night long, because we cant think the same way, but get informed at least to pust up an argue, not jsut talking thing out of the blue because you feel the game is like that, the videos and the phrses are our there, and as you have just proved, you didnt see them all.

The game world is beautiful. Likewise characters are gorgeous. The world is crafted to the end of being a “character” and that’s a statement to that end.

They did very well, it’s a beautiful-gorgeous game.

This does not say “Our game is all about aesthetics. Aesthetics are everything, gameplay be kittened”.

You’ll need to do better then that. I knew the manifesto said these things. This is not evidence that proves your position that the game is aesthetic first, gameplay whatever.

There are many beautiful, but otherwise horrible games. GW2 is not one of them.

Points on improving your English though. I actually understood most of what you were trying to say this time. Still a difficult read, but better then last time.

Villious.8530:

The paragraph I quoted was directed at exactly your mentality,

I’m not arguing we should all run around with the same pointy stick. You’re supposing the direction of a piece you didn’t write as it applies to me.

You should rely less on the words of others and use your own.

Villious.8530:

I get what your trying to say, but I donot agree with you. GW2 was marketed about aesthetics and not stats. Not everyone thinks like you. We’ll just agree to disagree.

You’re at the opposite extreme.

Can I get a quote on that from a dev or the manifesto, or anything official where they said “this game is all about aesthetics, lolgameplay”?

You push your opinion like it’s a matter of fact.

Whereas if we look at gear objectively, every single piece of gear is exactly like the other one in it’s respective tier. The look of the thing is irrelevant.

Such a system pushes gameplay, not aesthetics. This isn’t to say that there aren’t aesthetics in the game. This game, every detail about it is beautifully done.

The topic at hand is arguing about the odds of obtaining a particularly trite crugly (creepy+ugly) piece of gear.

The game is so much more then sclerite weapon tickets. That this is a game breaker for some is ridiculous.

Regardless, you’re free to moan about sclerite weapons being too hard to obtain and I have proposed a suggestion that get’s you said weapons, RNG free.

If you don’t like it, that’s alright. You don’t have to think like me. You really shouldn’t think like me, at least, not exactly.

You should share some of your suggestions!

Sadistis.4257:

As a Charr Main I enjoy going into human areas and reminding them that we burnt their original capitol down.

As a Human I appriciate my furry overlords.

Well if you keep that up, you’ll end up like Azalus Poisontongue. They’ll make an event out of kicking your tail!

Humans had many capitals. Ascalon was just one of them.

Kryta is the last major stronghold of humanity on greater Tyria that isn’t ruled by a crazy undead guy or zealously cut off from the rest of the world by Emperor’s degree.

There are still many humans in the world of Tyria, and several kingdoms therein.

They’ve been thinned out and pushed back everywhere, but for all of that, they’re still literally everywhere. Ascalon included.

It’s foolish to dismiss humans as a dying race as some do.

Wickedchick.4526:

edit* TBH at this point I am just quitting putting so much effort in getting a crate just to open and hope rng feels sorry for me is idiotic

Glad to hear that you’re beginning to understand the problem. It is idiotic to allow RNG to dictate your enjoyment of the game.

Quitting that can only be a good thing.

azureai.9764:

Lonewolf Kai.3682:

Simple: a whetstone is a rock that you use to sharpen bladed weaponry.

Edit* Just to let you know I’m not making that up
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/whetstone

LameFox.6349:

I can imagine a lot of people probably don’t sharpen their knives, but yeesh, one would think the sudden ‘h’ in the word would be reason enough to consider it may not be the same thing. There’s a /sunglasses-ready ‘sharpest knife’ joke within such easy reach of this thread…

Not to forget that once combined, ‘Stoneheart’ seems almost antithetical to the character.

Yeah….I know what a whetstone is, thanks people. eyeroll

What I’m curious about is why her name got fully changed, instead of partial changed. And why Rytlock decided that would be her name. Even if “Stoneheart” is antithetical to the character, they could have made it “Heartstone” and kept to what, at least I undstood was, the naming conventions.

She’s part of the stone warband now. Whetstone. She’s an invaluable component. If you use a whetstone on a knife or an arrow, it becomes sharper. Deadlier.

Having Roxx in your party would make it sharper and deadlier.

Charr surnames can note your exact job in the warband, but it’s not a hard and fast rule. Rytlock’s surname is an example of that.

He’s of the stone warband, but his purpose in the warband isn’t ‘brim’.

Brimstone has connotations of wrath and hellfire. It expresses the fierceness of his person. It sounds cool.

There’s some artistic liberty you can take with the surname, as long as it’s not completely ridiculous.

Whetstone fits. Stoneheart makes it sound like she’s a droid, it’s completely antithetical to her character.

Heartstone is paradoxical if not over emphasizing an (admirable) quirk of her character in an only the strong society.

Whetstone works well.

LameFox.6349:

There’s a /sunglasses-ready ‘sharpest knife’ joke within such easy reach of this thread….

Deathdance.2045:

Go pleas read avout GW1 and GW2 when they told that the game was SKIN based and not a GRIND FEST game type, its not stats wise, its just they told us the game was about Aesthetics, so you didnt have to worry about stats, dont talk about the WoW like mentality were the stats is what make the item relevant or importanto, and BTW being rare and being imposible and not even accesible anymore, is not the same, really people like you will make the game boring, running CoF skins even after the 4 years of the game running, because, stats wise, is irrelevant.

… What?

Could you reword that maybe or try saying that again? Please?

Gandarel.5091:

You make me lol. Play some GW1 or don’t come back here. I don’t flood the charr forum with bullkitten, so please, respect this and stop it. Thank you.

Err, I’m a vet from GW1. I play a human character, as well as charr. Both have very rich histories, and I choose to enjoy both.

By all means, have a blast on the charr subforum. I really don’t care what you do with yourself.

It’s.. just a game~

Gandarel.5091:

I love that how it was okay for the charrs to not move on and take revenge more than 1300 years later, commiting genocide and destroying 2 (and a half) kingdoms, but the humans should move on after 200 years because of.. because of stuff and things.

Charrs don’t honor anything, still hate humans, they only made a treaty after having too many enemies and one of them, the humans, brought them an ancient gift.

Yes, the treaty is good, i agree, but the topic is still about “As a human, do you hate the charr”, not “As a charr, do you like the charr”, and if they couldn’t bring the Searing, Ascalon would still stand.

Humans were the initial aggressors. Humans and charr war… forever. Humans finally offer peace and a really good gift for 1300 years of war. Charr accept, gingerly.

Villious.8530:

“I agree with most of what you said, but you worded that last line incorrectly. They are not required to be SUCCESSFUL in the game, but whether or not they are required to enjoy the game is 100% subjective. For some players, aesthetics are a big part of a game and if they find an aesthetic they desire for their character and have no valid way of attaining that item, it can indeed kill their enjoyment of the game.
It would be like a raider being told there is a raid in the game and they have a random chance of getting to play it. You might be thinking “That’s different. That’s actually playing!”. No, it isn’t. That’s what a raider enjoys doing. Aesthetics is what others may enjoy. The way you are thinking about aesthetics, I am thinking about that raid. Me being able to enter that instance doesn’t affect my enjoyment in any way, shape or form, so I wouldn’t care if it was RNG.
Anet added this RNG in with super low chances knowing full well thakitten would kill the enjoyment of the game for certain individuals. That’s impossible to deny. But it’s that same fact that brings in so much money for them- those people are going to spend spend spend (if they can) to get those items to increase their own enjoyment.
They know those players want their next hit, and Anet is the only provider for them.”

You’re playing the wrong game.

You want to play a game that puts an emphasis on aesthetics. GW2, while it cares about aesthetics to a degree, is more instead about gameplay.

You don’t need the shiny new skin of the month to enjoy the game, objectively. The game is about gameplay.

Now, there is something Anet can learn here though. Something that will make them TF2 income; people will pay for exclusive skins, RNG-free.

Such as Roxx’s bow and quiver or Braham’s shield and mace as RNG-free straight up purchases.

BLC’s and crates need to have a decent chance of rewarding the RNG gambler. They need to be very cheap purchases in relation to the realistic chance of getting good bounty.

There’s a balance here to be struck, TF2 pulls it off well enough with their crates.

Here’s something else they do: They offer the contents of the gamble without the gamble… at a premium.

The gamble for such skins should be cheap. The actual skins should cost quite a bit more.

In this way, you encourage the “i feel lucky” crowd purchases and if they need the skin that desperately, they can buy it for quite a bit of coin, for a limited time.

Rare skins should be rare. Many TF2 items can never be obtained again after their initial release and time in the store.

Especially sought after items suffer from inflation as a result: GW2 doesn’t have to worry about this because such items can’t be traded.

It’s not unfair since every weapon or item shares the same stats as any other item or weapon in the same tier.

The difference is entirely cosmetic, ergo, irrelevant. It’s just a nice little thing to have. It’s not the emphasis.

But for the pedants and the compulsive, and the occasional savvy consumer who may just really fancy the skin, money in your pocket.

Make it in such a way that people who would exploit this for profit can’t make any, and for people that want to skip the RNG, have that option to do so.

In this way you reward your loyal fanbase who’s on this game like butter on toast and preserve it for people who come later.

Or don’t especially care about aesthetics but want to remain relevant.

But yeah, don’t make all new aesthetic options store only. Throw your non-store using gamers a bone every now and then.

Keep rewarding and thinking about your gamers who don’t use the store not because they don’t want to, but because they can’t for whatever reason.

You guys have been really good about that so far. Keep content rewarding for them as well.

The initial Southsun Cove event back in November was an awesome example of that.

Things like the molten gloves from F&F, the unique back pieces from the Southsun Cove story that you can earn, all these are great.

Some walls of text are worth it. The beautiful back stories and lore of this game are worth it. It’s good reading.

I wouldn’t mind at all an in game cinematic kind of thing, but if it can’t be done, I very much appreciate that they offer the back story on the website.

They didn’t have to do it. It’s kind of them to do and at that, well done.

Obsidian.1328:

Huh???

What are you talking about? I’m not sure you read my meaning right…

Obsidian.1328:

No way. History should not be erased for any reason, even if it means saving a life, or thousands of lives.

What you’re saying here is history trumps life. If it comes to preserving history or saving lives, people have to die. That’s not going to fly for a moral people.

At that, the human account and the charr account have both been preserved in the games story successfully, very well. So it’s a non-starter.

The charr aren’t doing anything worse then the humans by purging the land of threats (chiefly ghosts) and trying to safeguard it for themselves.

A piece of living (as opposed to dead) history has been secured for the humans in the treaty with Ebonhawk. Humans have carved out a place for themselves in Ascalon.

They remain now as they did then. Charr have honored their part and pulled out and back from what was an endless assault against Ebonhawk.

For reason of the peace treaty, humans are allowed in charr lands (ergo, greater Ascalon).

And charr are allowed in the human territories of southern Ascalon, Ebonhawk, near the Ash Legion homelands.

Andele.1306:

Charr are all big fluffy tsundere balls for cuddle, ofc you first have to beat them into crying since they would wanna rip your eyes out if you didnt, but still /hug on each of them~

I-It’s not like I like you humans or anything, stupid meat~!

Greedy mesmers couldn’t enforce a payment system even if they wanted to do this.

It’s too simple a thing to simply step inside the portal and use it. People that ask for a tip I don’t tip them. People that do it for free, I tip.

Generally, these same people send my tip back.

Moreover since I roll with friends and guildies more often then not, she does the portal for some of our less jumping inclined and anyone else that happens to be there.

Gotta laugh at the people trying to capitalize on the kindness of strangers. That won’t end well for you.

Geotherma.2395:

This discussion is the exact opposite of the RNG discussion. I approve :P

Its too RNGy, It’s really hard to get one! = Rare items
Its too easy, everyone has one! = Not rare items

Ah the cycle of forum life

1000 times this.

Folk.2093:

LOL

Lost it. Lost so hard.