Guild Wars 2

jamesdolla.3954:

Chaba.5410:

What he said. There are blobs in all tiers so there’s no need to reduce tiers.

He probably wants more active Sea,ocx and eu timezones. those timezones look dead in most tiers tbf

1- There’s an EU set of servers.
2- If those timezones are dead then reducing the tiers won’t do anything.

What he said. There are blobs in all tiers so there’s no need to reduce tiers.

I want PPK adjusted to give more points if the outmanned buff is up. PPT gets extra points from people who put in the effort to upgrade structures or take upgraded structures. PPK should get a similar treatment for people who put in the extra effort to get kills while outnumbered. Stop rewarding blobbers.

DeceiverX.8361:

FlOwMaKeRs.8623:

Dawdler.8521:

The ping of -90 might be your problem. With negative ping, you are actually getting data back from GW2 servers before you even sent the input. This make the client confused and cause lagg instead of normal lag.

Negative ping? Putting “-” I do not mean negative, if not lower.

I suggest using <= rofl.
The lag, assuming you’re referring to skill delays, is server-side due to terrible profession design flooding the servers with routines. It has nothing to do with networking and is pretty much solely a gameplay mechanic problem. Because it’s rooted in the bad profession design of the game it’ll therefore never be fixed.

It is still good to check the network side of things. Stuff that looks like micro-teleports can be dropped packets.

Dawdler.8521:

The ping of -90 might be your problem. With negative ping, you are actually getting data back from GW2 servers before you even sent the input. This make the client confused and cause lagg instead of normal lag.

LOL. This is why I still read this forum.

Hesacon.8735:

Chaba.5410:

XTR.9604:

Chaba.5410:

Please leave in Desert Borderlands so players can continue to produce epic gameplay content such as this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_SsifpEgMg

omg ahahahaha… I watched it on repeat like 50 times. So far best video of 2017 imo.

There’s also the TC mesmer’s POV video available of this event now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3uszzyx84U

I really don’t know how anyone can say remove Desert BL. Look at all the enemies in these videos and they’re not PPTing.

XTR.9604:

Chaba.5410:

Please leave in Desert Borderlands so players can continue to produce epic gameplay content such as this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_SsifpEgMg

omg ahahahaha… I watched it on repeat like 50 times. So far best video of 2017 imo.

There’s also the TC mesmer’s POV video available of this event now.

I haven’t found the fact that we’re living in the US to be of particular advantage network-wise. US Internet providers can be pretty terrible and quality is all over the place.

Please leave in Desert Borderlands so players can continue to produce epic gameplay content such as this video.

And back in the day people were still figuring out meta and there were players interested in it. Those players are hard to find these days along with zergs that aren’t being carried by veteran guilds with meta builds.

For comparison: end of 2016 and still no CU.

Since this thread seems to have become a “recruit for my server” thread, you should probably wait until after the server relinks occur on Jan. 6th before making any decision because Anet evens out the averaged population of each server when making the links (they claimed for example that CD+DR+DH had more population than BG).

With server links there is much more movement between tiers, especially below T1. It remains to be seen if, for example, Maguuma in T1 doesn’t lose it’s link and fall back down into T2 or JQ gain a link.

The linked servers are usually easier to transfer to because their smaller populations make them a cheaper option and if patterns remain the same, there will be some bandwagon-y type movement within the first two weeks after server linking that will shake tiers out. There also tends to be a lot more activity across all tiers at the start of a new linking period.

Potato.2567:

Unlike MOBAS where you can get fed and 1v5 carry in low elo, in this game you don’t get stronger through kills so its impossible to carry terrible players.

Surprise, surprise. This game is truly team-based after all.

oscuro.9720:

DeceiverX.8361:

Gwaihir.1745:

DeceiverX.8361:

Rhego.6590:

What?? Why are we talking about builds lol… I asked which server will be best for finding fights..

You asked for zerg-busting, not zerging. Those are two very different things, and the former depends heavily on the meta. Right now, there is no countering the existing meta with fewer players pretty much regardless of how good you actually are. The professions have been changed in ways where zerg-busting (a build-dependent area of the game) no longer exists, because there’s currently no way to shut down larger groups of players without just having more numbers, because the dominant builds do not have any means of getting shut down.

That still was never requested nor brought up. And self supportive teams can still take down larger groups, ZEN on eu I think has some good vids up. Heck me and 2 of my friends mesing around contested an ebg keep and sat on the spawn killing them as they rolled in until around 12-14 guys had showed up. Was fun, messing around in completely off the meta builds but people who know how to play together are still stronger.

I gave an answer and got criticized for saying none because the game-state doesn’t allow for what the OP wants right now. Would you lie or give a bad answer to someone who came in asking about a frontline-one-push thief build for T1 zerg fights rather than saying there is none?

Killing 14 unorganized pugs (probably with blob-oriented builds) at spawn is not zerg busting. A zerg these days pushes closer to 30-50 in most tiers in NA.

10v25 with roaming builds count as a Zerg bust? Or just great outmanned?

Pug 25 or a guild? In T1 guilds run into the 25 numbers and most of them that I’m familiar with aren’t going to go down to a 10-man guild with roaming builds. If you’re talking about NA T3 that’s a different story.

Yes, Blackgate is trying to make Maguuma to lose a link. That’s it. /sarcasm

Chrisks.9735 is GL of the OCX guild RP on Fort Aspenwood. Give him a shout.

We’re talking NA here?

What others are trying to say here is if you’re not starting with 18-20 players, you’re not really going to do much zerg-busting unless you plan to hug other guilds.

I hope that the new links take into consideration migrant accounts that transfer servers often. I hope an increased population on a server linked to a higher tier host isn’t considered representative of that linked server.

Kovu.7560:

Please, transfer to one of the servers with a heavy OCX so that its even easier to ktrain other servers at night.

That was sarcasm. Don’t. Don’t transfer to T1 or SoS if you actually want fights.

Go to Yaks Bend. They have absolutely 0 OCX. SBI is also an option. Bring your friends. create a community instead of stacking one.

~ Kovu

The guy wants an active community though. My suggestion is to not look by server, but look by guild instead. Find an OCX guild to run with first.

Diku.4620:

You wouldn’t blame water for causing a flood. You’d blame the plumber.
You wouldn’t blame electricity for starting a fire. You’d blame the electrician.

Funny. I’d blame nature for starting a fire and causing a flood.

Mulling.8421:

It doesn’t take alot to fix WvW

The population imbalance problem apparently does take a lot. Not many RvR games have found a successful 24/7 “even numbers” formula. It would have to be treated more like a structured PvP environment first to solve the issue.

Hexalot.8194:

SkylightMoon.2098:

I know people have said for a long time this is a dead game mode, almost memeing it at times. But right now, it seriously is on a lifeline.

Servers have been linked and even in T1 where im at right now, things are pretty empty most nights. There are incredibly empty for T1, a tier that from my experience has always had nonstop activity.

It makes me incredibly sad to see this in WvW. Its always been my main gamemode in this game but Anet is going to have to make a decision very soon to do something very very drastic, I mean big changes to the game mode to fix it, or just call it quits and say we can’t carry on it with it anymore.

I can’t help but say this is completely their fault. They’ve done so little for this gamemode of such massive potential in 4 years.

Eh… stop being so melodramatic. Yes population is down everywhere, but you could at least acknowledge in your rant that this is extremely normal this time of year with the Christmas season and all that. People have just got better things to do than chase your kitten around the border lands all day.

Would have also been nice of OP to acknowledge T1’s buying habits over the past four years.

Emdrix.6124:

If they implement decay every 12 hours people will have a reason to play

Nah. Both my accounts are decaying and I really don’t care atm. Bad incentive.

Dawdler.8521:

thus making no more runaway PPT

That’s a really good point. I bet that runaway PPT effect would be lessened by having true three-way maps.

Spurnshadow.3678:

Yes, there’s other philosophies at play. As one example, there’s rivalries that we’d actually like to engage in, which requires us to fight TC. This means the 2nd and 3rd place servers are not engaging the first place server.

That was the basis of my point where fights guilds generally play based on what other guilds they can fight, not the placement of the server those guilds are on.

This is why I’m fully invested in keeping an account on BG. TYBG

Please, Anet, make this happen if you won’t open BG.

shion.2084:

vove.2768:

So I cannot raise my ranking because opponents I fight are supposed to be idiots in contrary to opponents in higher divisions? I think this makes no sense at all.

I had proposed this problem to Lesh in another thread. That by bringing new players at an average MMR of 1200, if there was a steady influx of new players, it would be pretty random when you’d ever be able to break above the range that those players could be placed in and randomly tank you.

Yep, anyone around 1200 rating ends up in the dumping ground for placement matches. I’m pretty sure that’s why my placement matches on the first day were so much better than my placement matches for another account on the second day after everyone heard that PvP was easy way to get ascended armor.

Azure The Heartless.3261:

• Thieves that refuse to switch if we have more than two thieves. (I can’t be really frustrated at this because some people may just have one character. That’s a failing of the game more than the player I think.)

And you know in the back of your mind that it is always the more skilled thief player that is willing to switch too. xD

Blackdagger.9670:

@Chaba
If you are able to kill only 1 enemy player team while all your teammates are getting wiped hard, then yeah that means you earned that top stat.

Also Considering wins/losses for matchmakings only is so 2013ish. We need some bright and fresh ideas such as considering top stats affect mmr as much as win ratio.

So, there are two good solution for the problems at the moment.
First; Hard MMR reset is a must.
Second, Make top stats directly connected to personal MMR.

Hope Anet won’t play ostrich man this time.

The issue isn’t whether the player earned the top stat or not. You’re missing the point completely. I’m saying that top stat is essentially a flawed and meaningless tool for measuring individual skill. It is a team-based game and as much as I’d also enjoy my top stats to increase my MMR (especially in matches where I get almost all the top stats of my team), I also recognize that a team can snowball another team pretty hard in GW2 which ends up making stats wholly dependent upon team play rather than individual play. The stats are really only there to show you what your contribution to your team was (i.e. 1 kill). They say nothing about your individual skill against the other team.

Artemis Thuras.8795:

One day anet will catch on that they need to use the stats players earn to adjust mmr.

I don’t know; that’s kind of a tricky issue. The top stats thing can be misleading I think.

Let’s say your team sucks and you lose the match by quite a bit. But you got top stats on your team for kills. Your team sucked so bad and couldn’t kill anyone and you got the one kill the whole match so 100% of your team kills, you’re given top kills stat? But let’s be honest you only got one kill. How is that really all that good?

I’m with a WvW guild on FA called Legends Never [DIE]. They rally 5:30pm – 7:30pm Pacific on Sunday, Monday, and Thursday. http://lnd-gw2.com/

Few of the members are also West Coast and also PvP.

tanztante.6532:

basically what you guys are saying is:

to be able to ascend in rank, you need to be able to carry 4 people all the time.

Nope. He said he has to duoq once he hit a plateau so that’s only three people to carry.

Blackdagger.9670:

I have 9k game count and today in ranked arena, a necro in my team tried to rush to kill enemy lord that we already had killed 4 minutes earlier. Yes, he pinged like crazy and actually went there.

The game has no clue how to differentiate individual skill in a team setting. Others will argue here that your skill level is the same as the necro player and you need to get gud.

Bigpapasmurf.5623:

Vagrant.7206:

displacedTitan.6897:

For “purity of purpose” I think Rocket Boots shouldn’t move you as far as it does, I mean its clearly a damage skill since they buffed it’s base damage for purity, it should barely move you at all! Someone get ANet on here and explain why rocket boots seems like an escape skill!

Also I think that hammer should have some Condi on it and remove some of the DPS, its clearly lacking in “purity of purpose” as well!

Lol @ ANet, they really have no clue what to do with Engineer. I cant wait to see the next train wreck elite spec they give us. Maybe another set of AI minions will do the trick!

Next they’ll give us flying turrets that can’t keep up…

oh wait.

LOL I giggled

In all seriousness, rocket boots needs to be the gadget stun breaker (I mean look at it…the animation looks like it should break stun)

It was a stun break back when it used to propel you backwards and self-stun!

TorquedSoul.8097:

Whats the point of having as many people of the other two servers combined if the other two servers are just going to team up on you.

They key word being “if”. I haven’t seen it yet. Is there a match somewhere we can use as an example of the 2nd and 3rd placed servers teaming up yet?

Evan Lesh.3295:

Preview /15chars

Oh those will be nice! Old Plat and Silver was pretty hard to distinguish.

Locuz.2651:

displacedTitan.6897:

Oh right, they just got very unlucky in placement and should be higher ranked! That play I saw in two games on different teams was not indicative of their skill at all!

These forums are excellent every season.

U know….all players who win, win due to their own skillfull play. If they lose its due to bad luck.

Good to know all the players around 1200 rating are there because of their own skillfull play, not because it is the dumping ground for placement matches. Thank you.

I won a match in Foefire today using basically that strat. Two went far and two of us escorted a third to home. It split their team enough (they had two eles and we didn’t have any ele) that the two of us who escorted home could contest mid before they capped it. It completely depends upon team comp and what you think you can kill fast enough.

displacedTitan.6897:

For “purity of purpose” I think Rocket Boots shouldn’t move you as far as it does, I mean its clearly a damage skill since they buffed it’s base damage for purity, it should barely move you at all! Someone get ANet on here and explain why rocket boots seems like an escape skill!

I think Rocket Boots should throw you backwards with a self-stun from the force of the propulsion.

I kid…

Enokitake.1742:

Silverbolt.2301:

If the system was any good, I wouldn’t be sitting at 1.9k on one account, 1.8k on another account and 1.1k on another account. Your initial 3-5 games determines your placement and the system tries its hardest to keep you there. If you were not lucky with allies on those matches…good kittening luck to you.

This paragraph is very interesting.

Anyone else got multiple accounts with vastly different ratings? If so why.

Yes. I have two accounts I placed. One landed in Gold 2 during placement on the first day of the season which seemed pretty right to me since I think I’m an avg to above avg player and placement matches were essentially 50/50 w/l (I played most of those matches on a p/p condi engi lol).

The other landed in Bronze 3 on the 2nd day of the season (like the day all the people who heard about easy ascended gear hopped on the bandwagon to fill the queues or so I suspect) and I spent most of that day trying to get out of it on meta scrapper with basically 50/50 w/l and mostly blow-out matches because I’m only average and can’t carry 4 other players like a pro. So I dunno… That experience basically removed my faith in the idea that this system is a reflection of individual skill (which it isn’t as someone pointed out the MMR it is a reflection of team skill – Conquest is highly sensitive to team skill unless you are some sort of dueling god of pvp).

Duo-queued with a friend for a few matches on the third day and got way better matches. That account is currently at top of Silver 2 after playing solo a little bit today on it. My last ten matches on it is 7-3.

I plan to sit on my higher ranked rating until the system stabilizes more and work on moving up with the Silver account so I can’t say that I somehow got carried on the higher ranked account.

Edit: Incidentally, noticed my MMR gain increased slightly after pushing up the w/l ratio.

I recommend duo-queuing with a friend. You’ll end up getting matches at your friend’s level which, if you can play at that level, might help pull you out of that.

I think 2-1-1 helps theoretically align the scoring system with how glicko rating gain/loss works (better for your own rating if you do better than expected against the higher rated server), but WvW isn’t really played this way much anymore so in practice results will be wash I think.

When I log in with my fights guild, we don’t say to ourselves, “We must only fight guilds on the higher rated server to push them down in score”. We say, “Oh some guild is rallied, let’s go fight them.” We don’t care which of the two opposing servers they are on. And when we are done fighting that guild we say, “Oh let’s go fight some guild on the other server.”

Mutaatti.2789:

Evan Lesh.3295:

Everyone got a rating reset, at least wait until you place.

WAIT! So 7 wins 3 losses making 1350 rating, while 9 wins 1 loss makes 2050 rating??? makes sense Evan… and no, it’s not rating reset if your previous MMR affects your rating with this new system. Good job. You got another player moving to WvW from PvP.

Huehuehue. Don’t expect WvW to be any more fair than PvP. Arguably it is worse.

I don’t think it is a bug. I had a bye match (my 10th placement match even) because one of the players on my team lagged really bad then dc’d. The match counted as 10th match for placement but didn’t show on my win/loss.

Swamurabi.7890:

Chaba.5410:

Reh.5986:

If your server is dumb enough to feed kills to the bigger server…

… you should transfer to the bigger server especially if your personal KDR is high. No sense getting yourself worked up over trying to carry everyone else.

So everyone that is on a lower pop/lower coverage server should only sit in towers and use seige, don’t want to feed that PPK by going outside the walls.

Let’s turn NA WvW into 4 blob servers and 8 versions of YB.

Sad to say but PPT allows for more varied playstyle than PPK.

That is another option, yes. As Reh says, the PPK hit is deserved because “server is dumb”. I don’t know why he thinks competent roamers are going to be able to gain enough kills to make up points when the other bigger server is getting more kills from “dumb” server so competent roamers should go to a bigger server where their talents will be more appreciated. Hopefully my sarcasm is helping to highlight the absurd difference between Reh’s statement and what actually happens in-game.

Reh.5986:

If your server is dumb enough to feed kills to the bigger server…

… you should transfer to the bigger server especially if your personal KDR is high. No sense getting yourself worked up over trying to carry everyone else.

Anet should stop rewarding PPK when an opponent has the outnumbered buff. And the API should separate out kills and assists.

Reverence.6915:

You don’t need a squad to roam buddy. That’s called zerging

Just Maguuma things

He’s looking for a roaming squad, not solo roaming. Squads can be up to 50 players roaming on the borderlands.

I don’t get why you never used your signet heal when your health was too low.

Cerby.1069:

Chaba.5410:

What’s funny is there used to be a ton of mesmers around in WvW until the nerf to the glamour build that was being run at the time. The nerf marginalized mesmers to the extent that you’d be hard-pressed to find even one for golem portals. Saw something similar happen to warriors after the stability nerf and HoT release.

Ya mesmers are so underpowered in wvsw atm. Anet should buff all their stats and abilities A L O T. I mean all they are useful for is their portal….and that single ability definitely doesn’t determine the outcome of a fight.

Cause you know….kittens!!!!

Sarcasm about mesmer in meta right now doesn’t change the fact that there had been a nerf to their glamour build that directly lead to dearth of the class in WvW and we’ve seen the same thing happen to warrior when stability was nerfed. This is just in WvW. Balance is apparently hard, especially across different game modes, which becomes an argument for separation of skills. Rev is strong in WvW meta, but for example got sidelined in raids.