Guild Wars 2

Now the frenchies are sad because NA players won’t join a national server, well NA isn’t just the United States so: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOR38552MJA

Qwixx.5923:

smitske.4912:

Nightcapping is indeed part of the game and so are multi time zones

Everywhere the people will tell you that if you can not set up a nightscapping force with your own EU players, then you have nothing to do in T1 EU, it’s simple…

No, that’s what some VS an Elona trolls say, and no one cares about what they say

I didn’t even know F11 did something

I just use TAB targeting and AoEs, then it’s gg easy

As long as killing a grey mob stops counting for rezzes, downed state is fine

Saweth You Him.9047:

unless you want to pay a gold a day in repair costs

That’s just sad…

QQ everywhere imo

I’m a guardian, I do not care about the silly thieves. I just dodge, heal and kite them while they foolishly attempt to kill me until my team mates arrive and kill the thief or he disappears like a scared dog

Progression system is coming in February and there’s plenty of ppl to kill until then. None of the other issues are game breaking to me (as for culling I try to avoid big fights, but if I am in a big fight I just TAB-target and spam skills/AoE → gg easy)

Shadowkx.2738:

Chiolas.1326:

Something you should add: Go to a low tier server and do the jumping puzzle/PvE there, then if you decide to stick to WvW help that server to win the weekly matches!

I am not sure i would take this advice. If you join tier 8, two of the servers are basically being spawn camped and any indication that there is an enemy player around anywhere on the map, will bring a number of dominating server’s players running as there is nothing else going on. Same thing is true on any tier where the match up is unbalanced.

Well, if you do the jumping puzzle on a populated server there will be so many enemies inside that you’ll probably not going to finish it.

Trust me, I’m from a T1 European server and we hate when PvE carebears show up to jump in that useless waste of space when there’s real fighters in queue.

EDIT: there’s also no ‘etiquette’ or ‘traps’. If you’re red, you’re dead.

Something you should add: Go to a low tier server and do the jumping puzzle/PvE there, then if you decide to stick to WvW help that server to win the weekly matches!

Blame the quaggans

Qwixx.5923:

Binafus.8153:

Why PRX go back home, Your server already out numbers SFR with PRX, You guys like hitting on doors?

Yeah dude, it simply means that you don’t have your place in T1.

Not really, we don’t care if they are from NA, they’re still part of your community. You may not think that, but no one cares about what you think anyway.

An advice to Elona: although turtles are cool, there isn’t much point in doing it in T1, Feedback from mesmers will crush it (and VS uses a lot of Feedbacks).

Qwixx.5923:

Misslol.9741:

Qwixx.5923:

Our 24/7 zerg is legitimate, because it is composed of EU players only. Seriously, shame on SFR if you do not stay 1st all weeks.

Please stop trolling with this.. What is the distinction between a different time zone player and a nolife nightcapper (no offence here it’s only to make it clear) that plays the same time on a 24/7 server?
Is the jobless or nolifer player time much worth than the others or what?
If the nightcap is legit so is the different time coverage…if it Is not so let’s go on with all the other crap about u noskilldroids are only a 200zerg that steamroll everything and die as mobs where in same numbers etc etc

Because a person doesn’t replace six. Our hours of night not a substitute for a primetime even if we have good presence.
It is not a question of numbers, but a question of equity and fairplay relative to local timezone of EU ladder.

Could you stay in T1 on a single timezone ?
The answer is no, you have so nothing to do in T1 EU. Other legit server wait to move up.
It is you who are in wrong, does not give us the fault.

Who died and named you boss? Why are you the one to decide what “legit” is?

Gz to Arborstone!

Whenever I kill a thief I corpse jump him. I am proud of it and encourage everyone to do the same.

Erostrate.4326:

if BT and SFR seems to have more people in christmas holidays than VS.

Wow, just wow

You don’t have to leave WvW, just leave the party and make a new one

I think the real issue here is the threat of the Xmas mobs: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/im-very-tired-of-it/first#post1070284

Yup, VS players die faster then one of those gift mobs

WvW is their baby
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqhnxTr_p5c

I think you are forgetting the fact that titles have zero relevance

KlausKNT.9302:

Is this really the only way to win in this maps?

I see how play gw2 top servers, there is only zerging to win.

No and no.

I like the idea of awarding points according to the players who are online (and thus, actual Player vs Player), I and many other have also suggested that in the past, Anet showed many times that they don’t care, points won in PvP are worth the same as those won in PvD

The idea of halting WvW or point atribution is just ridiculous, no modern organization should and would do something as dictatorial as that

Wothan.4673:

Darkeh.4539:

to Blacktide and Vizunah Square

IS THAT THE BEST YOU CAN DO !?

At least, they don’t need US player to rise them…

Do you know how to read? SFR got to T1 with no US guild…

Here’s an EU one, based on the MoS WvW thingy.

Ianervan.3415:

Myth #4: We got to tier1 because we worked hard:

Mythbusting: When I was on SFR the (then medium) server also worked hard but no amount of work can compensate for lack of population and off-time coverage. Then SFR received a lot of new players, not excluding few US guilds, and suddenly it’s tier1. Because of hard work? No. Because of higher pop and timezone coverage.

1- Yes, in the past SFR won as a medium server, often steamrolling opponents when we were together (aka primetime)
2- Those ppl that joined us did it because they wanted, not because we asked them, SFR’s main WvW alliance doesn’t do recruiting, we just attract WvW’ers due to our organization and dedication, don’t be jealous pls
3- It wasn’t a sudden climb to T1, we all had this aim for a long time now and worked for this to happen, it took several consecutive wins in T3 and T2 (after we reorganized, following our drop to T4)
4- Most of the new players were integrated into the community and we now fight as one, that wasn’t easy to do, nor is it easy to maintain this level of dedication (aka winning)

All of that took hard work, our presence in T1 isn’t just a fluke like you are implying. You don’t share the same opinion? Good, no one cares anyway

Oh, and stop pretending to be a mythbuster, you’re bad at it and you should feel bad.

BT players saying that they didn’t said that SFR is in T1 because of the bandwagoners when they actually said it:
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k147/LTvball121/House-RunAway.gif

Centrix.4065:

Some random server gets some guilds and starts to rise and other random people will jump on the bandwagon for karma/map completion/whatever until the server hits #1.

SFR is not “some random server”. Please stop insulting all the people from SFR that worked and still work hard, we reached this tier because of them not because of randoms searching for easy wins. Besides, many of the guilds that joined are now integrated in the WvW community, not all people who join other servers are evil toddlers who want to join on the win train, some (and as SFR is a WvW server, many) are just looking for a challenge, that BT and VS are making (not the one we hoped but still…)

But saying that type of bs is allowed so please continue

Same.4687:

You guys should get off your stupid high horse and come to terms with the fact that you are not the most skilled server but are the most consistent one.

True. But not all people care about the same type of skill.

For many ppl, the most important is the individual skill: having fast reflexes and fingers, pushing the right buttons at the right times to dodge or kill someone, that kind of stuff that – even if it’s not that useful on the long run – is momentarily fun (who doesn’t like to stomp an enemy in the face?).

Other people, like me and apparently most of SFR, consider that server skill is more important. Everyone, including our “randoms” know their classes well, how they synergize with others and what to do in WvW, that’s why it’s very easy to be in a group with non-guildies.

For example, in the past few weeks (so, also against BB, ER, Millers and Deso) there haven’t been that many SFR guild-groups because we’re often winning so badly that organizing in such a way is not needed and almost spoils the fun (this is, after all, a game)

We may not be the best individually (I certainly am not), but when we get together we have very cohesive groups. Imo that kind of discipline, hard work, group fighting spirit and perseverance are skills. After all, this is not sPvP, this is mass, open world, siege PvP. Armies win wars, not soldiers.

I’m quite happy with not being the world’s greatest player but being in a tier one server with my comrades.

This relates to my main “disappointment” so far, most VS (and some BT) are too focused in individual gains… many of them are thief or elementalist with glass-cannon builds and are WAY easy to kill (sure, thief stealths almost at will, but he’ll eventually reappear/some AoE takes care of it). I am a fully support oriented guardian and I feel like a DPS machine when hitting most enemies :P

Anyway, awesome matchup so far^^

Icy.8041:

Chiolas.1326:

Icy.8041:

Eccentric.3649:

We love our new server and the community. <3
Great cooperation and passion for WvWvW here.

Who wouldn’t love a server with guild from all over the world?

Hopefully A-Net does something against that soon!

What why? Is it a crime to like to hang out with ppl from all over the world? O.o

It’s called “EU” and “US” Servers for a reason.

Then why isn’t there an IP ban? Nevertheless, if only EU ppl were allowed to play in EU servers, than time coverage would be all shifted and the winning servers would be those that have more people that play at night, frequently the ones that have more time to spend. And as we all know, the outcome of a game can’t be solely decided by the amount of time people spend in it (some games do that sure, but that’s why those games are rubbish and GW2 wins)

Icy.8041:

Eccentric.3649:

We love our new server and the community. <3
Great cooperation and passion for WvWvW here.

Who wouldn’t love a server with guild from all over the world?

Hopefully A-Net does something against that soon!

What why? Is it a crime to like to hang out with ppl from all over the world? O.o

Raven Paradox.1860:

Actually it’s been like this for the past 3 weeks on NA servers…

Fixed

In your own borderlands citadel, the crafting station has a bank

Parthis.2091:

numerous mindless SFR zergs

Well our “mindless zergs” wiped the floor with your weak server

Seafarer’s Rest 244 185
Desolation 125 471
Baruch Bay 182 678

A note to both Deso and BB: thank you to those who continue to fight, that’s the real spirit of PvP. It happened to SFR too, we got beaten by numbers, even though we steamrolled during primetime. You are showing that you are improving: BB – even with all the flaming, even mine – has been getting better, acting more like a group; in Desolation, IRON has been strong as usual and imo the overall server has improved (I remember the GT guild, a brick wall like IRON), not to mention your recruitment processes (something SFR doesn’t/won’t/can’t do)

Sure some people are demoralized, but that’s only human, in SFR that separated the weak from the strong

Yeah probably when SFR goes to tier 1 we will lose, but only in the total score, not in potential points during prime-time (<- assuming that the queue problems were fixed), and if we do lose in prime-time, than that will be good WvW training. For me this is very good because the strong players will stay in the server (like they did the last time we reached T2 and got our butts handed to us) and the bandwagoners, who are psychologically weak anyway, will leave for a server where they can get easy wins. Personally, I can’t wait for T1, it will only make us stronger

Bottom line: don’t give up, things WILL get better

I do WvW 99% of my time in the game and I don’t feel that WvW needs change for the sake of change, I prefer that they take their time caring for the PvE/sPvP carebears, WvW is awesome as it is and needs more time to stabilize (new content would be awesome, but I admit creating new WvW content is a tough job and I prefer that they take their time).

Sure some people will leave, but those players re psychologically weak so I’d rather not have them on my server

If we fight Desolation more it’s because you guys are better than BB (though Misslol is right, they are “less bad” than the last time we faced them) and we like to have fun fighting, it’s a compliment

Most SFR people are like this, WvW-driven players who just want to have fun whatever the score, the tier or the numbers (I miss you outmanned buff!), sure some bandwagoners will jump ship when “the kitten hits the fan”, but that’s actually nice that because we know that the ones who stay are strong people who will be essential to make the SFR community stronger

My impression, based on experience, is that Baruch groups are as weak as wet paper and retreat too fast even when they have equal or even superior numbers, unlike Deso. We barely have to apply pressure to make you turn the other way and run. Also on individual/small fights I feel that you are too weak, many people don’t know how to use their skills effectively… I guess PvP is not the same as PvE O.o

On another note, what happened with Desolation? Last night (reset night) it looked like the whole server rerolled a thief xD

Not to say that’s bad, although thieves becoming invisible whenever they feel like it is annoying, they are also pretty squishy (and this coming from a guardian with crappy DPS :P). Today you’ve had the usual tough, very strong raids (a bit more thieves, but effective ones), the GT guild tag comes to my mind

They should be separate maps altogether, I’m sick of carebears filling a spot when there’s real WvW to be done. Let them face the dreaded queue if they really want to do those lame puzzles

Gorila tactics? Like Donkey Kong?

I do not know what Balthazar is and I’m happy with it.

Just have small groups around keeps – taking camps or killing dolyaks to avoid boredom – to inform your larger groups of the enemies position*, than just move your larger group and defend the keep – the gates/walls should give you enough time – while trying to kill as many enemies as possible so that they get tired.

Maybe that’s how they do it in Tier 6, but in higher tiers that type of gameplay just means that the zerg will constantly hit defended keeps. Meanwhile we just take their keeps, soon they can just flip supply camps, and even those can be defended by a couple of ballistas and arrowcarts.

*If your server can’t even relay that type of basic information… you’re gonna have a bad time.

Also, at least in my server we don’t have a lot of zergs. What we have is a couple of big groups of coordinated people (some randoms join that’s natural, but they know how to fight). Not every large group of people is a zerg. Sometimes they just group up because that’s a natural human action, frequently – but not always – more advantageous to being alone.

Awesome fight moments ago in the Garrisson of Elona Reach borderlands. Unfortunately Elona had few defenders and quickly bailed out, but the fight on the interior between SFR and Deso was epic (we were actually planning on fighting for it for hours). There were loud cheers on our TS when we took it, it was a really great moment.

Kudos to all who participated^^ Only bad thing was that I think no one fraps’ed it (maybe it’s better, his computer would probably explode)

PS: I was the last golem to arrive – after the others went down – y I died but got the door open :P

EDIT: and now we lost it, gj Elona for the great comeback^^

No, we don’t.

Message Body length must at least be 15.

Xanthian.3025:

The SFR in Riverside BG right now.. (20:11 GMT) why the hell are you a 50+ zerg lol, there’s 10 of us from FS and about 5 RS here.

Split up and lets get some decent fights.

Computer says no.

I never did the EB jumping puzzle and only did the borderlands jumping puzzle once (one way for each key) and with the help of a video guide (before that I spent like 2 hours trying and failing)

kitten me right?

We built 11 Omega Golems on Seafarers Rest

Hooray for the event keeping the PvE carebears away from WvW

tagnut.8621:

ethier.3417:

It’s not other till the fat lady sings.

Riverside are still in it imo.

Not a chance. Server doesn’t know how to do anything except sit in a keep till they have 60 or so people – throw up 10-15 balistae and then wait for an hour before rushing 10 people. They can’t attack – they are terrible.

Not really, this afternoon we spent hours defending garrison from them in Riverside BL

Yes, we are better, more organized and more focused (ticking for +600 woot^^), but there’s no need to lie about them

ankdarkwolf.1487:

But to see two servers collaborate like this time is even more sad

Let me be clear:

We’re not collaborating. If anything we don’t like Riverside. We just attack you more because you are basically free points.

No conspiracy theories please, no one is out to get you.

That said, I haven’t WvW’ed much this week due to that lame PvE event ruining the matchup, I even brought my lvl 10ish alts because I was bored.

Tbh both of you are being rly bad so far so it doesn’t matter who we hit, we’re not focusing anybody, most of us are just in troll mode cuz that PvE event is ruining this week’s matchup

Our best known guilds – FU and OSC – are native to the server, there are also many small guilds that were in the alliance since day one (they’re still small, but now they are more organized and play better, like all of us), the guilds that came from other servers successfully adapted to the alliance

Anyway, server transfers are part of the game

Even if they improve (they should imo) AoE ppl will still stay together