Guild Wars 2

I hope they’ve reconsidered the failure of the Season 1 Living Story and the pause/silence that you mention is the result of preparation for… an expansion!!! Hell yeah!

Easy: An expansion.

I’m pretty sure that almost 2 years of GW2 for those who’s been playing it since the beginning deserves to be called “patience”, by any standards taken.

Expansion time!!!

I do hope quietly for an expansion pack as I think it would save the game’s future, for at least another year or two.
I do understand that the Living Story is a promising undertaking, however, the execution thereof was terrible in Season 1, hence so much criticism. If it was changed, i.e. to introduce permanent as compared to temporary content only, my opinion would possibly change.
Nevertheless, I am of opinion that a game that is almost 2 years old and hasn’t thus introduced anything fresh, unique AND permanent, does indeed need something of this kind. A new LS season to aid this? I do not think so, since the season last for another 1 year, and that is too long awaital for something new, I believe.
Ofc, I know that many of you may have different views or opinions thereabout, still, I hope that you’ll appreciate my input into the discussion, which I think is a very interesting one.

Cheers

Lankybrit.4598:

Flytrap.8075:

Lankybrit.4598:

That’s because you pay a subscription to WoW for updates, and you don’t to Anet.

Yeah, this game is totally free.

It’s not like I had to pay $60.00 or anything like that in the first place to play it and I’m sure the Gem Store is solely there for charitable purposes.

Not to mention that those proceeds have been put into the China release. Thanks ANet!

Well, you pay for WoW AND you pay a subscription. See the difference?

You pay for GW2 AND you don’t pay a subscription AND you don’t get any PERMANENT content with the updates. See the difference?

This game has had hardly any new permanent content for almost two years now. The devs lost their track, I guess, after the failure that living story turned out to be.

Fenar.4025:

They are getting ready to release GW2 in probably the largest market in the world. I am sure big stuff will be coming in time. Learn to be patient and life will be so much more enjoyable.

The game is almost 2 years old. Waiting 2 years for some new, fresh and unique PERMANENT content could be dubbed “patience”, don’t you think?

Short answers:

1) This game desperately needs an expansion. No matter what anyone here thinks personally, the amount of new, fresh and unique PERMANENT content in this game has been close to null and the game’s already 2 years old now.

2) The idea of the Living Story is an excellent idea, nevertheless, it was terribly executed by the devs as most of it could have been done within a couple of hours since the update’s release, making all 14 days until a new update literally stagnant. If there is a better execution lying ahead, including permanent as compared to temporary stuff, in-game unlockable content as compared to mostly gem shop-purchasable content, etc. etc., I’d give the LS a go one more time.

Hope it helps.

It’s funny to see how many things from GW1 still look better than their counterparts in GW2, although there’s such a great age difference.

Just one thing: in GW1, you could see the whole process of an arrow being taken by a ranger from behind the back and put on the bowstring before being fired away. In GW2, you can’t see an arrow in the whole process, just when it fires away.

I love the game and that’s why I still play it ( although rarely now that I have spent 2 years here ). Nevertheless, it needs acknowledging that the game lacks fresh, permanent content and I believe that, now that we have received a feature pack, we ought to get an expansion pack ( or the equivalent thereof ) as an update. No more trashy LS updates. Hopefully.

Cheers

A feature pack is something we had to have. Now, we have got get an expansion pack, with plethora of new PERMANENT content.

Onisuo.8607:

So yeah, this is not a complaint or anything but this community has reached a new low by making low level characters and speed running the first personal story to completion to get black lion keys. Delete character and rinse repeat.

Either these players are extremely bored or they are so poor that they can’t spend a few bucks to buy the gems from the cash shop.

Let me guess, you’re American?

This game needs solid permanent content, not some crappy Season 2 of temporary content that no one cares about after 5 hours post-premiere.

Hope the devs’ learnt from their mistakes.

Expansion pack.

Gandara or Desolation. Other servers don’t really matter.

Mate, it’s the craze of the masses. Some “pro” says they’re cool and everyone starts using them. Then we reach the “meta” kitten and a game becomes boring.
What I loved about GW1 was diversity, which in this game is, unfortunately, lacking.

They have game logs and see that. What they need is a game account info from you.

jheryn.8390:

Corpus Christi.2057:

jheryn.8390:

Corpus Christi.2057:

jheryn.8390:

Corpus Christi.2057:

Thanks God. No more brainless zombies playing this game just for the AP.

Thanks God, ANet.

What do you care how anyone plays the game? So what if they want to play the game for AP? If that what makes it fun for them, then great. They are playing the game how they want to play which is awesome.

People should play how they want. They certainly shouldn’t be subjected to your rude and strictly lopsided opinions.

The reason is ( for me, personally ) as follows:

We had a great guildmate. At first, when we all started playing the game, he was very helpful and engaged in all guild activities.
After a couple of months time, he became an AP zombie. Whenever he logged in the game, he would do ALL AP EVERY SINGLE DAY. He stopped helping newer guildmates, stopped participating in guild missions and any other guild-related activies. He started cursing new guildmates just because he “was busy doing something he had to do, which is all ap for today, otherwise someone else would surpass him.” ( his words ).

Yes, I do care how other people play, so do our guildmates who want to have a healthy environment within the guild and game’s community.

Cheers

So let me get this straight. Because one guy who chased AP points made it bad for you personally and those in your guild, all AP chasers are brainless zombies? That is certainly what you were indicating in the way you stated what you said. And how do AP chasers derogatorily affect the game’s community? The answer is that they do not. As long as they are not in your guild, they don’t affect you at all.

There were numerous threads of the kind of our guild’s experience on this forums. Henceforth, it is more likely that it has nothing to do with a narrow community of my guild, but the game’s community as a whole.

Thanks for the discussion.

Cheers

I never indicated that others didn’t have a similar situation. But there are many in my guild who are AP chasers and they do not adversely affect us at all. They do their thing and join in when they want.

I know others who are not in my guild who go about their day chasing AP points and they don’t hurt a soul.

So how is it that any of those people I just referenced hurt you? What did they ever do to you to be called ‘brainless zombies’? How are they adversely affecting you or the community in any way? Blanket statements like that are uncalled for.

You seem to be missing the obvious: as the incidents that affect me are apparent in other groups of people, totally unrelated to me, it is rather logical to assume that the GW2 community may experience the issue as a whole. It has nothing to do with the fact that the experiences of the other groups of people do not affect me DIRECTLY.

Unsound arguments are unwanted here.

Cheers

A new set of armour that wouldn’t be for gems at all would be a new thing to GW2.

10 k x “YES”.

jheryn.8390:

Corpus Christi.2057:

jheryn.8390:

Corpus Christi.2057:

Thanks God. No more brainless zombies playing this game just for the AP.

Thanks God, ANet.

What do you care how anyone plays the game? So what if they want to play the game for AP? If that what makes it fun for them, then great. They are playing the game how they want to play which is awesome.

People should play how they want. They certainly shouldn’t be subjected to your rude and strictly lopsided opinions.

The reason is ( for me, personally ) as follows:

We had a great guildmate. At first, when we all started playing the game, he was very helpful and engaged in all guild activities.
After a couple of months time, he became an AP zombie. Whenever he logged in the game, he would do ALL AP EVERY SINGLE DAY. He stopped helping newer guildmates, stopped participating in guild missions and any other guild-related activies. He started cursing new guildmates just because he “was busy doing something he had to do, which is all ap for today, otherwise someone else would surpass him.” ( his words ).

Yes, I do care how other people play, so do our guildmates who want to have a healthy environment within the guild and game’s community.

Cheers

So let me get this straight. Because one guy who chased AP points made it bad for you personally and those in your guild, all AP chasers are brainless zombies? That is certainly what you were indicating in the way you stated what you said. And how do AP chasers derogatorily affect the game’s community? The answer is that they do not. As long as they are not in your guild, they don’t affect you at all.

There were numerous threads of the kind of our guild’s experience on this forums. Henceforth, it is more likely that it has nothing to do with a narrow community of my guild, but the game’s community as a whole.

Thanks for the discussion.

Cheers

DavidH.7380:

Corpus Christi.2057:

jheryn.8390:

Corpus Christi.2057:

Thanks God. No more brainless zombies playing this game just for the AP.

Thanks God, ANet.

What do you care how anyone plays the game? So what if they want to play the game for AP? If that what makes it fun for them, then great. They are playing the game how they want to play which is awesome.

People should play how they want. They certainly shouldn’t be subjected to your rude and strictly lopsided opinions.

The reason is ( for me, personally ) as follows:

We had a great guildmate. At first, when we all started playing the game, he was very helpful and engaged in all guild activities.
After a couple of months time, he became an AP zombie. Whenever he logged in the game, he would do ALL AP EVERY SINGLE DAY. He stopped helping newer guildmates, stopped participating in guild missions and any other guild-related activies. He started cursing new guildmates just because he “was busy doing something he had to do, which is all ap for today, otherwise someone else would surpass him.” ( his words ).

Yes, I do care how other people play, so do our guildmates who want to have a healthy environment within the guild and game’s community.

Cheers

This was considered though, which is why the most supported suggestion is to keep the cap but add the additional choices back. In other words, make it “any 10 you want out of 16 or 20 total options for the day” or even any 8 you want, as long as there are more choices for the minimal five to get the daily reward.

I’d totally agree with that, as long as there is some reasonable ( not all posibile ) amount of AP to do in a day.

jheryn.8390:

Corpus Christi.2057:

Thanks God. No more brainless zombies playing this game just for the AP.

Thanks God, ANet.

What do you care how anyone plays the game? So what if they want to play the game for AP? If that what makes it fun for them, then great. They are playing the game how they want to play which is awesome.

People should play how they want. They certainly shouldn’t be subjected to your rude and strictly lopsided opinions.

The reason is ( for me, personally ) as follows:

We had a great guildmate. At first, when we all started playing the game, he was very helpful and engaged in all guild activities.
After a couple of months time, he became an AP zombie. Whenever he logged in the game, he would do ALL AP EVERY SINGLE DAY. He stopped helping newer guildmates, stopped participating in guild missions and any other guild-related activies. He started cursing new guildmates just because he “was busy doing something he had to do, which is all ap for today, otherwise someone else would surpass him.” ( his words ).

Yes, I do care how other people play, so do our guildmates who want to have a healthy environment within the guild and game’s community.

Cheers

Thanks God. No more brainless zombies playing this game just for the AP.

Thanks God, ANet.

Yes, ANet, fix it.

Thank you, ANet, for this, I have to say, nice patch. It did introduce things that the playerbase asked of you since the game’s premiere, plus it fixed a lot of things that needed reworking. Thank you, again.

But now, once we’ve got this ‘feature update’, let’s move to something that we, as your devoted fans, have been waiting for almost 2 years now. It is lots of new, permanent content ( as compared to features only ). We all know what I mean: new explorable zones, possible races, classes. It’s not the place to dispute what should be within this ‘expansion patch’, nevertheless, this game does indeed need something of the ‘wow, it feels like a totally new, unseen game’ feel about it. The way it felt with Factions, Nightfall and so on with regards to Guild Wars 1.

I mean, it’s an obvious step now that the game is almost 2 years old and the LS hasn’t delivered anything of this sort, as 90% of the updates were a temporary content.

I do hope that, with this ‘feature patch’, you have finally taken a right turn and will now concentrate on giving us something big and fresh, possibly in the summer?

I keep my fingers crossed for you, ANet. Keep up the good work!

Almost no new, perma content, just features. My bet is max. 350-450 mb

Already thought you were talking of some expansion pack! kitten…:/

I was part of the “alliance”, but when you, the leaders, started with your swearing at and insulting the random people that just happened to be at the chosen map, suspecting them of being ’taxi’ed’ by some of our members, I lost any respect towards you. “Only the members of the alliance can be here; otherwise, gtfo!”, were the words of some of you. How… mature.

I think it’d be healthy for the community if the TxS went away.

maxinion.8396:

inb4 lore reasons

The lore of the GW2 is so negligible when compared to other MMO games that I totally understand people who don’t know it.

However, this game needs introduction of new systems of gameplay, as well as new explorable zones, lots of skills, weapons etc. etc. At the same time, i.e. 2 years after its premiere, GW1 had twice the amount of new permanent content that GW2 has now atm. Well, what am I comparing? GW1 sold in over 9 mln copies, while GW2, so far, can only dream about it.

Hope they add some new stuff in the summer. And please, if you want to respond with the usual, “hey, there’s that awesome feature patch coming on 15 April”, then please, don’t bother. What we’ve got in the feature patch is pretty much something that all the players asked inb4 the game premiered, lol.

Kain Francois.4328:

I like the idea of a surprise update. But I can’t see it happening any time soon because ANET loves their Sylvari.

Whenever I look at the concept art of how Sylvari was first meant to look vs how it ended up looking, I really do hope they take more time with their new race.

At first, Sylvari were meant to be some kind of evil looking, Entish-like dark Elves. What they are is: colourful trees.

That’s the reason why I’ve strated to think recently why GW3 would be great… with a sub fee, and I’m pretty sure that ANet or NCSoft stated they won’t consider another b2p/then f2p games in the future ( correct me if I’m wrong ).
I do understand that many of you dislike the idea, but tbh, a sub fee adds something that GW2 does not have – loads of new, permanent content, let’s say every 6-8 weeks.
Living story? Not really, at least not the way it is exectued in GW2, which is to say the least, ‘poorly executed’.
I’m ready to pay 15-20 dollars a month for a quality PERMANENT content every now and then.

Echou.1923:

Mods might slap me for this but here we go.

What is your aim? What do you think you can achieve with these martyr posts? Do you honestly think Anet is sweating bullets when person x threatens to leave the game? You will be replaced with 2.

Reddit has a rule which bans all the drama posts. Can this forum have that as well?

Welcome to Soviet Russia.

Yes, you might have read about it in your history books. My family, however, generations back, lived during the era and they described it by the way you want the forums to be.

Exactly. I’m pretty sure this is the feeling that majority of those that left the game have. I haven’t been playing for a couple of months, but I do often return just to spend the remainder of my free time with mates that I’ve made in the game. Our guild had over 150 active people during the first months, now there’s 5-10 playing actively ( many of whom are new players ). Each and every one of those that left the game says exactly the same thing as you did, OP.
This game needs fresh, PERMANENT, content that adds PERMANENT fun. After all, it’s a game, it’s supposed to entertain people and not bore them.
Hope one day they realize that.

Wait for an exp-pack. I’m pretty sure that the “feature patch” is just a prelude to something bigger and fresh, like a “content patch”.
Well, it has to be… I hope.

Poisonwell.1209:

Corpus Christi.2057:

Tbh, I don’t think there will be enough people playing it in 2018 for them to even consider releasing it. And I’m not being overly pessimistic here.

From time to time I enter in GW1 to see how many people are connected and there are always players, more than anything in the major cities and arenas.

It’s been 9 years since its launch, and the game is still alive

I still log in into GW1. Do you know why? It’s still better than GW2.:)

Azure Prower.8701:

Corpus Christi.2057:

I’ve been wondering… I play TESO now to check it out, and noticed they have 1 server for all European players + there are no instances separated by logging screens like in GW2, e.g. Queensdale/Kessex etc. etc.
Would it be possible to do the same for GW2? It’s so nice and smooth to see you don’t need to cross some funny portal/logging screens and simply walk around a huge unlimited space with millions of people.
Do you guys think it would be possible for GW2?

That’s called a seamless world.

Don’t hold your breath for it happening any time soon.

Well, they’re introducing a ‘megaserver’ thing like in ESO already, so maybe it’ll happen someday!^^

If you consider it as an introduction only to something much bigger ( like expansion-worthy content ), then we could call ( what we know so far about the feature patch ) a success.
But only if there is something big and fresh out in the summer 2014.

Tbh, I don’t think there will be enough people playing it in 2018 for them to even consider releasing it. And I’m not being overly pessimistic here.

Stealth.6971:

I haven’t played in like a year and decided to play again, but there aren’t many people. I’m only level 24 so maybe it’s because most people are higher levels by so they’re in high level zones?

Well, it definitely is not in as good a shape as it was one year ago, but there are still some people playing it. Even I do play it from time to time now that I have ESO, but mostly for the remainder of my guildies that are still in GW2.
Hope you’ll have great time here!

I’ve been wondering… I play TESO now to check it out, and noticed they have 1 server for all European players + there are no instances separated by logging screens like in GW2, e.g. Queensdale/Kessex etc. etc.
Would it be possible to do the same for GW2? It’s so nice and smooth to see you don’t need to cross some funny portal/logging screens and simply walk around a huge unlimited space with millions of people.
Do you guys think it would be possible for GW2?

Kaiyanwan.8521:

They will open the encounter to thousands of players who have been unable to do the event on low population servers unless they joined a one-trick-pony guild.
You can manually start the event now, so adapt your schedule a bit and you will be fine.

“Logic clearly dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.”

^ That.

I’ve never heard of TTS, but again I’m from Desolation ( EU ), which happens to be the biggest server in the world, so whenever there’s need, people just gather and do anything together – just like in the case of the first 3H Wurm kill in the world.

Reschedule it and you will be fine.

MegaServer idea is great. Thank you for that and keep it up!

Ezekilijah.9130:

I am pretty new to GW2, but I have been playing MMOs for years. I think one more race and an accompanying profession would do the game a lot of good.

The race, mainly because I think there are too many humanoid races. Human(duh), Norn, and Sylvari are very human in the profile. All Asura have going for them are being short with big heads (as far as being drastically different in profile). Charr do a good job of offering something really different to play.

My vote would be for Tengu: they look different enough, and have a lot of mystery surrounding their current status in the world. I love the Kodan, and would love to role one, but again, they are too humanoid.

To go with Tengu and their seeming Japanese cultural inspirations, I would propose a class with heavy samurai influence. It could wear heavy armor, making the armor balance 3/3/3 like the developers seem to want.

+ New, permanent explorable zone(s)
+ Plenty of new traits/skills; new weapons
+ New dungeons

And I think this game could get a second life. Well, I’d definitely be satisfied.

nGumball.1283:

Corpus Christi.2057:

nGumball.1283:

Corpus Christi.2057:

nGumball.1283:

Via release, GW2 was far superior in poplarity than ESO, it got better recieved by the majority, it got better recieve by the media and it quickly became the most commercially successful MMO since 2004’s WoW. ESO won’t change any of that, neither will it become close to those milestones and if you really believe they will, be ready for some disappointments.

I’ll play the role of the advocatus diaboli.

The game hasn’t premiered yet, so what are you talking when you speak of TESO in past tense?

Re-read my sentence, use an english dectionary and then comment as your post didn’t really make sense.

I’ll quote you: “recieved”

Learn how to speak English before you teach it to the natives.

MMOs gets recieved through all their stages, from announcement, beta to release and so far we have got most of it including the early access. Meaning that the term should be in the past tense, as GW2 already was much better recieved by this point.

You still make the same mistake, even when I pointed it out to you. You keep writing “recieved” when it should be “received”.
Like I said, you are wrong. No further messages needed.

maddoctor.2738:

Corpus Christi.2057:

maddoctor.2738:

Corpus Christi.2057:

Are you surprised? TESO premieres in a couple of days, so for the time being, this game will be more dead than alive. But who knows, some of us may come back to GW2 if TESO becomes boring.

I’ve been questing on Deso for ages ( the biggest GW2 server ) and honestly, even there, the number of people has decreased noticeably over the past months.

The actual population of the game is fine, the problem is about not having anything interesting to do in Cities thus even players are like NPCs standing around doing nothing. Cities need some help to actually feel alive.

Well, I do agree with you to some extent. As it’s been said on numerous occasions, this game needs something ‘big’ rather than bug-fixing which further destroys the game.

It can be something small too, just a change to how cities work and increase their importance.

I think that a ‘small thing’ won’t get old players that left the game ’cos they felt bored with it or potential new players to a game that is almost 2 years old when there are new, soon-to-be-out titles in 2014.

nGumball.1283:

Corpus Christi.2057:

nGumball.1283:

Via release, GW2 was far superior in poplarity than ESO, it got better recieved by the majority, it got better recieve by the media and it quickly became the most commercially successful MMO since 2004’s WoW. ESO won’t change any of that, neither will it become close to those milestones and if you really believe they will, be ready for some disappointments.

I’ll play the role of the advocatus diaboli.

The game hasn’t premiered yet, so what are you talking when you speak of TESO in past tense?

Re-read my sentence, use an english dectionary and then comment as your post didn’t really make sense.

I’ll quote you: “recieved”

Learn how to speak English before you teach it to the natives.

nGumball.1283:

Via release, GW2 was far superior in poplarity than ESO, it got better recieved by the majority, it got better recieve by the media and it quickly became the most commercially successful MMO since 2004’s WoW. ESO won’t change any of that, neither will it become close to those milestones and if you really believe they will, be ready for some disappointments.

I’ll play the role of the advocatus diaboli.

The game hasn’t premiered yet, so what are you talking about when you speak of TESO in past tense?

mjhungness.8059:

I bought the game. I’ve spent real money in the gem store when I felt like it. Everything else has been for free. I’m not going to be critical of anything they throw at me. When the game gets boring and something better comes along, I’ll leave, like I did WoW, LOTRO, CoH, DCUO, CO, and the original GW. I’m looking forward to the update but I’m not agonizing over potential lost. As for TESO, I have a brother doing the beta and I’m not worried – the crowd that leaves for TESO probably never really “got” GW2.

Guess our gw2 guild, which consisted of 150 peeps during the first 6 months of the game ( and for the past months has had only around 10 active members, including me ), is different. 112 guys got an imperial edition after participating in the beta.

Who knows, what’s certain is that GW2’s been a huge disappointment so far, with regards to the execution of the idea of the LS.

To be honest, I’m not surprised that “these fixes”, which de facto should be introduced with every single update on a on-going basis, are now dubbed by ANet a “feature patch” – after all, the game was better balanced when it premiered than it is now, 2 years after the premiere.

GJ, ANet. I’m immersing into ESO until GW2 releases something worthy of “Guild Wars” franchise.

phys.7689:

Corpus Christi.2057:

At first I was like, “wow, feature pack, it’s gonna rock!”, but now I’ve realised that this game’s doomed. 2 years and almsot no new permanent content.

God, forgive ANet for their mistakes…

GW3 is the only thing that may actually save this game!:)

while this isnt really on topic, i agree, they make a lot of changes to the game, but so far they havent expanded the game much.
Game expanding changes would probably be
Fractals
Guild Missions/progression
9 new skills
40 new traits
1 new zone.

which isnt really much at the end of the day. Guild missions is not something i can participate in, which is fine, but it still seems like it is in its infancy. Fractals i think was probably the best thing. the new skills is fairly small amount of change, the new zone while visually impressive is not as well designed content wise as other zones.(generally feels like not much to do there) and the traits havent happened yet so i cant comment on them too much.

Really i like Gw2 in general, but i just dont have much interesting to do anymore.

Precisely. ANet’s almost commited suicide with their terribly executed LS. I give it a couple of months, if an expansion-wothy content doesn’t come up until then, I’m going to stick to ESO. 4 days till my 5 days early access!!! <3