honestly me and my guild are giving this game till Revelations come out and till then if anet doesnt do anything about class balance in WvW then Revelations it is
I really dont care about power creep because they can never fix that. I want them to fix the things which they easily can.
-Nerf condi
-Nerf damage reduction
-return og old school stab
I can gurantee these 3 things can make WvW fun again
zerg busting created more competitiveness at least in my opinion. Back in the day a lot of guilds started off as zerg busters and then came into GvGs and boom you have a GvG scene. If zerg busting does come back i think there will be more and new player pool and booming GvG scene. Again anet doesnt care lol they want people to go in sPvP and sPvE lets not mess with their balance.
Fights in WvW are boring as hell because everyone and their mother is running tanky builds with kitten ton damage reduction/healing power. On top of that everyone and their mother is running full dire/trailblazer tank condi/epi spam. Its killing WvW. Its sucking the fun out of it well its already has. I am tired of people posting scoring changes. Seriously you k trainers can never be satisfied with scoring and scoring can never be fixed with the current WvW system. I want my fights to be fun again and not boring. Fights are what that made WvW fun again. Its the zerg busting thats missing man. I miss zerg busting that was my jam I miss killing 50 with 15-20. I used to get hyped about kitten like that. HoT killed that hype not only in me but also for other players. The three things listed below can definitely make fights fun again. Nerf the condition damage; it was automatically nerf the condi spam because less people will run it. Nerf damage reduction buffs/traits/Rite of the great dawrf. Bring back old school og stab because there is so much passive/soft/hard ccs that its just dumb. The old stab would be best stab right now.
-Nerf condi damage
-Nerf damage reduction
-Give og old school stab back
wtf are you talking about? Everyone is tanky af in WvW because of HoT. They dont need more tank. If people are getting one pushed they need to skill up. Skill up? that exists? wtf?
1. Population balance. Linking didn’t work. Locking servers didn’t work. Anet needs to either lower map caps, close maps, force 2v1 so that stack to win isn’t the meta anymore.
2. Skill balance. The reason for the decline lately is the fact that lower numbers cannot win against higher numbers. Damage mitigation needs to go. You should have to actively heal and cleanse to show you have some skill in WvW. Make it fun to play WvW when you are outnumbered.
3. Rewards. I don’t mean higher rewards for the stacked. I mean rewards for those that play a long time. More rewards for those that are outmanned. Rewards that can be used in PvE that will encourage PvE players to join WvW. Make EotM rewards take way longer than WvW rewards.
4. Treat WvW like it is core to GW2. If WvW is core to GW2 then have better communication with the players on the forums, fix known bugs with the maps quickly to show us that you treat WvW as core to GW2. Stop shifting WvW resources to the next PvE release so that only the easy and quick fixes get released in WvW. Invest in WvW. Fix the lag issues. If you can’t fix lag when it’s 80v80, but it works good enough when it’s 50v50 then change the map cap to 50. Of course you could look at changing the skills and skill effects so that lag happens less in WvW.
5. Make me want to play WvW again.
+1 Because you got it right and that is what needs to be done. Not to mention you saved me from having to type it all out.
I woukd say skill balance first and then focus on pop balance
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Also Arena net can have a tournament where everyone wins and scoring doesnt really matter. It would simply be just for fights and fun. Which ever server gets the most ppk wins lol.
Fights simply arent fun anymore. That’s what drove people away. All this passive condi and cc spam. It might be fun for the trolls using it, but not the least bit fun to fight against it. The stab changes and the pve buffs to condi, which should have stayed in pve only and never been brought over into wvw. That’s what killed the fun for me anyway. The whole thing that made me like wvw in the first place was the active, intense, fast paced combat. That just isnt there anymore. Its all boring bunker condi and cc spam and passive autopilot builds that carry bad players.
This is right on point. Conditions, tanky builds and massive ccs just ruined WvW combat and fights.
Make WvW fun again in these easy steps.
1. Nerf conditions
2. Nerf damage reduction
3. Give old school stab back
4. Bring back old school zerg busting meta
https://youtu.be/8hZIb74CmMA
^^^^^ If I can get that meta with HoT classes game would be hella more fun to play and would be worth my time.
If condis dont get nerf then WvW can never be fun again fight wise
To be honest I do not mind conditions being useless at all. When condis were useless WvW WAS A LOT MORE FUN LIKE A LOT MORE FUN.
In all honesty zerg busting is dead on all tiers. Current meta ane builds are so kitten that they favor larger groups over smaller groups. Build diversity is completely gone. WvW needs massive balance patches for zerg busting to return.
First three things I would like thrm to do is
1. Nerf Condition damage back to pre-hot
2. Bring back old school stab get rid of stacks.
3. Nerf damage reductions buffs and traits.
I miss old school zerg busting. Them outnumbered fights was the reason I loved WvW. Time when skilled mattered more than builds.
Things that make WvW really boring imo
1. Condition damage
2. Current stab is good but just not as same as old stab.
3. Tankiness of the current builds.
4. The blob mentality. You blob so I blob now.
Honestly I dont mimd specializations the only thing I have biggest problem with is condition damage, tankiness of builds and I seriously do thing 2k13 and 2k14 stab should come back. Honestly WvW just needs a better class balance for me to enjoy WvW again. Its not just me its 100s of players who want it. Conditions literally ruined WvW imo. I miss old school everyone and their mothers running power. Every person I ask about their opinion on condition damage the response I get is “Please nerf it”.
https://youtu.be/_VtltX0Sc84 I miss those kind of fights and videos. The reason I dont see people making videos like those anymore because people don’t have the passion and the fights ARE BORING. Stop caring about fixing scoring you can never fix it. Fix what you can. Which is class balance and population balance.
Everytime its time to rally up for WvW raid I already know how the raid is gonna go… boring and just useless blobbing.
TLDR: Fights boring because of current dumb tanky condi meta. Please return OG stab and more WvW class balance if not WvW will stay boring.
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While it would be nice to see some actual class balancing done with WvW in mind, balancing is done by a separate department, and quite frankly they are terrible and clueless in regards to wvw and pvp. Without properly splitting skill balance between game modes, wvw will always get screwed over. Conditions, CC’s, and power creep have ruined a lot of the fun in wvw, especially the condi garbage.
Scoring changes drive player activity, especially when there are other factors tied to it, such as rewards, tier placement, rankings, matchups, etc. There are many posts on this forum section about class balancing, mostly about conditions. You can also always start your own thread for discussion.
WvW is a 24/7 game mode, you always have to account for that.
Personally I would like to see them take a hard look at conditions, this simply cannot continue in its current form. Damage and application needs to be toned down in WvW. Epidemic needs a good nerf, because it is a little too overpowered, being able to load up 5 targets with conditions because of this 1200 range unblockable skill on one target is absolutely ridiculous. Guardians need to be toned down, way too much damage, healing, blocking, and tankiness at the same time. Resurrection needs to be toned down, way too much rezzing, too fast going on, there needs to be more penalties. Mercy runes, rez traits, etc all need to be toned down. Certain power based skills like CoR, Vault, etc do way too much damage and have short cooldowns, those need to be toned down as well.
This is spot on. I want them to do class balance in such a way which allows smaller groups 15-20 to take on 40-50 like pre-hot
All these scoring posts I swear… Why are you guys making so many scoring posts? Scoring shouldnt even matter at this point… If y’all made same amount of posts on WvW specific class balance I think Anet would have done a lot more class balance rather than scoring bs yall are crying about. Scoring can never be fixed if it plays around all around coverage.. So more WvW specific class balance posts please. Thank you.
P.S.
Anet still might not listen because they really dont care for WvW… Ecks dee..
excitingly waiting for Gaile Greys damage control post inc
Pre – Hot 70% more players playing WvW. If nothing happens to WvW soon a lot of players are gonna quit even if there is nothing else out there to play.
There are still a lot more players in pve and at this point i think spvp might just have more players…
Everyone is loosing interest in WvW. I guess Anet is getting what they want. They want people to loose interest in WvW even if you love it and fairweather to spvp or spve
Erm?
People come and go, game will decline regardless you like it or not, this is the reality. When game decline, merger naturally occur, that’s the cycle of game. Though anet could have delay the decline by doing more productive things. Also, claiming that T1 is empty, which timezone are you referring to or are you simply exaggerating things like all other T1 people always do?
T1 is only active over the weekend. After Monday its pretty empty for T1 all around.
Pretty empty referring to what? 50-men squad? 10-men squad?
10 men
Yes population is down everywhere, but you could at least acknowledge in your rant that this is extremely normal this time of year with the Christmas season and all that.
It was Christmas season 2 years ago, and WvW was way, way more active, you are making excuses, just like those that made them in the summer that people were going out enjoying the weather and would be back when the weather gets colder in autumn/winter, it didn’t happen, the game mode is moribund.
Yeah because it was two freaking years ago. In the current generation MMOs thats basicly cash grabs which survive 3 months before loosing 80% of player, GW2 still stands out as a healthy populated game. But it doesnt change the fact it get older by the day and thus people quit naturally.
That and it’s kittening christmas eve.
You missed the point, I compared to two years ago, because WvW was active year round, people going on about the season are spouting as much BS as those made the same excuse in summer, WvW has reached the state it has because there are so few playing it, simple as that, the season has nothing to do with it.
And yes it is Christmas eve, but it should be obvious people are talking about more than just today.
I agree. Around this year 2k14 in WvW there were queues popping on t5 and below servers.
They are annoying please remove or an option to disable thank you.
the break between each PvP season is pretty short so I think it isnt a bad idea. Last time they did WvW tourneys for like 3 months or so straight which forced a lot of people to burn out with all the over time. If they keep thr WvW season/tourney a month and half or less it would be much better and fun. They should also make it like whichever server in a certain tier has the most kills by the end of season they will win and make it less ppt stressful.
I think they should rotate pvp and wvw season like as soon pvp season ends the WvW season should start and whenever the next pvp season hits the wvw season will stop.
fam we already went over this on another post not gonna waste time over you.
If you think its whining then gtfo WvW forums TY.
No ones whining or crying. We are all just stating facts and what we all expect to happen because this has literally happened every single year. As a WvW players I can guarantee that the amount kitten we have taken and handled / given no other players from game mode has ever dealt with it. Helseth made one post and video about how kitten spvp is and guess what in like 3 months spvp gets a complete over haul. Past 4 years WvWers been crying about how many things they need to fix in WvW and how much attention we got? 0000000000
Until they chose to reset everything like blow up all servers and start new ones. Which I hope they do but not going to happen.
Before they reopened BG there was a amazing rotation that started to happen between T1 and T2 and now we are back to 0 because someone chose to open BG cuz few kitten were crying about it on these forums…
@BlaqueFyre.5678 “Quit crying and move on, WvW get more attention” WvW will not get more attention when you only have like two devs working on it which is part time and their main focus in PvE. So please hush.
You are just whining and lying when saying and I quote "while its been years WvW has barely gotten that level attention. " when the past year WvW has. Web receiving a lot of attention/overhauls/additions. And WvW will get more attention so don’t worry quit whining.
It’s undeniable that WvW has had developer attention this year, but I question developer focus when;
- didn’t provide features that increase a team’s ability to recover from large point disparities, and instead do the opposite (see #2).
- they implement things that only 13.7% of those polled requested.
- out off the blue they suggest open field cannons
I was encouraged when developers made the proposal for, “New Worlds”. This gave me the impression that they were trying. I was instantly discouraged when they just dismissed the whole idea after people suggested that there were problems with it, rather than discussing those problems and solutions to them.
The last part seems more like a community issue and not a Dev issue. If the Community keeps shooting down Ideas without actual discussion on their part or attepting to discuss it the Devs won’t waste their time with the idea, yes the WvW Devs need to be more vocal and to be more engaged that is something that lacks the most especially for WvW but also other game modes.
It is not a community problem. Every idea they have introduced has failed. the polls they take are completely one sided because they want players to chose something that sounds “amazing” but isnt and are quick to implement with less man power. I even said this multiple times there needs to be WvW specific trailers to attract those players who love massive scale PvP and all thus game mode to get new blood but they arent going to do it cuzkittenWVW. Anets moto since day 1.
I do hate to be critical of Anet as they are people too. But I will say this. If they truly are working on a “WvW Overhaul” it would be nice to get a sneak peek so we know what to expect! I mean it has been a long time since they have had any decent changes in WvW. Just saying ANET if you see this can we please at the very least know what your plans for WvW are?
Let me break this down for you real simple.
THERE
ARE
NO
FUTURE
PLANS
FOR
WVW.
We will see how much attention WvW gets. I am just waiting for the final nail in the coffin.
@BlaqueFyre.5678 “Quit crying and move on, WvW get more attention” WvW will not get more attention when you only have like two devs working on it which is part time and their main focus in PvE. So please hush.
What kind of changes are we looking for?
-WvW legendary backpiece.
-WvW specific class balances.
-Introduce new players to WvW.
-Balance current population by reopening BG again.
-Rework siege.
-Rework WvW keeps/towers upgrades.
-Promote GvGs dont just let it be a player driven thing.
-A way to get ascended armor from WvW without have to do fractals, crafting it or PvP…. WAIT WHAT? PVP GETS A VENDOR YOU CAN BUY ASCENSES ARMOR FROM LMFFAOOOOO WHAT EXACTLY IS PVPERS GONNA DO WITH THAT ASCENDED ARMOR? SHOW HOW ESPORTS THEY ARE LUL!
List goes on fam…
WvW has always been neglected by Anet and they will only neglect it even more.
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Those are the main changes Anet has done in past 6-8 months and half of them really made no difference. Other half yes and no.
P.S.
Can we please reopen BG again I need to transfer my alt.
DBBL: Terrible which we are forced to have.
Bringing back Alpline: They had to bring them back because of DBBL WvW population went so low that even on T1 servers only EB would get queue.
Server Linking: Creates more bandwagon rather than fixing population.
Rward Tracks: Copy paste from PvP
Proof of Heroics: They had to put those in because WvWers dont love PvE. We hate PvE and in PvP you automatically have specializations unlocked.
Skirmishes: Good patch only took them 4 years.
Repai hammer / Canon blueprints: Wasted like a month on this bs could have done something about balancing classes.
Boon Duration Nerf: Good patch what about damage reduction and conditions now? Don’t they ned nerf too? Yes they do but as us being Anet devs we need WvWers to cry and moan for two three months first before we so anything about it.
Removal of crafting stations: Made no difference.
Gift of Battle being a reward track: Good lets those PvErs suffer a little.
Season 3 and Season 4 became pale for PvP and to make it interested again Anet did a complete overhaul for it in 3 months max. WvW has been pale af since last 2 years and what we get is tiny patches here and there that also we WvWers have to cry and moan about it for days and weeks before we get it.
Oh my god people >.< Seriously? The devs flat out say here that the patch in question was largely made by the SPvP team. Of COURSE the changes are going to be focused on that. Especially now that they have skill splitting setup so that they can make actual changes on there own WITHOUT relying entirely on the balance team.
We are probably going to see PvP focused patches coming from them in the future.
WvW Is a WHOLE different beast. As Crapgame said WvW has armor,food,weapons and battles with 30+ players.
This skill splitting is exactly what many of us have been asking for and now that its happening your kittening because the patch isn’t all about you?
Anet is giving you the middle finger? No their not. I am at the moment though so /shrug.
If the patch isn’t about your game mode/class whatever don’t freak out about it. Maybe look at what the patch actually means. Skill splitting means that a small amount of the pressure is taken off the balance team when it comes to MAKING THE GAME BALANCED.
We should be kitten ed well rejoicing that this is happening. Not crying that its not all about us right now.
And don’t bring up the whole “Oh we have been disregarded for so long in favor of x game mode, This is just one more drop in the bucket of anet’s complete disregard for our enjoyment blah blah blah” I hear the same stuff in HoTM all the time in reference to PvE and WvW. And believe it or not I hear it in raids as well as someone complains that X skill got shafted because of Y game mode.
Let Anet do their job now that they finally have the tools set up to do it. We should be encouraging them and offering advice on what they could do with this setup. Not chewing them out in the most see through passive aggressive BS since my High School sweetheart left me for joining the military.
PvP gets a complete overhaul in 3 months while its been years WvW has barely gotten that level attention. Again word on street is that there are only 2 devs working on WvW team and that also part time their main focus is still PvE
but dont worry boys next up we will be getting deployable mortar blueprints.
I have this gut feeling that the upcoming patch is going to kitten a lot of WvW players off. Seriously in like just 3 months PvP gets a complete overhaul and to do kitten like that with WvW it will take them 30000000000000000x^2 years. Classes got specifically balanced for PvP but that same thing would never happen to WvW because “WvWers love PvE”. You can get ascended gear from PvE raids, fractals and now PvP. Right you need ascneded gear to kill npcs and PvPers need ascended gear to be considered esl pro… Arena net is lietrally killing/almost killed a gamemode that was more famous than PvP on purpose. It makes me sad when i come to these forums and read all these posts that have akittenng points but just straight up get ignored. Word on the street is that WvW team only has 2 devs working on it and that also part time their main focus is still PvE. GG boiis.
I have 3 sets of ascneded gear and I had to grind my kitten in PvE to get it crafted. After HoT ascneded gear has become a lot more expensive to craft for WvWers since we dont PvE. So please implement a kitten vendor in WvW that sells ascended gear.
As long as I can use my ghost tonic during GvGs and command. I am guch.
Tbh epidemic is fine where its at. It does what its meant to do. Its the condi damage that needs a nerf.
I just wanna see orange names back again when doing guild raid
@ArchonWing guardians are fine its classes like frontline revenants which give out rite of the great dwarf. So thats like 50% damage reduction with food its like 10% damage reduction then another 33% with protection and then eles giving out frost aura which is another 10% on top of that you got constant healing from frontline ele.
@Baka Current trait system is too easy and simple and forces everyone to run the same thing its not bad for PvE because meta in PvE is not a big deal. Its literally Players vs Mob there is no counter meta to be played. Then you have PvP and WvW I think for both of these game modes the old trait system worked out much better because its Players vs Players and WvW is PvP but in large scale so with old trait system would work out so much more BECAUSE THERE IS COUNTER META TO BE PLAYED WITH CURRENT TRAIT SYSTEM THERE IS NO COUNTER META AND THAT IS PALE.
Then you had power necros back in the days heart eyes i miss my baby. With current power necros are still good but most groups are running so much tank and damage reduction that people just gave up on power necro and straight up run condition corrupt boon necros because conditions dont care about armor they will still do a lot of damage because OP.
Current Condi necro build
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vRAQNAW7djc0Q3NWTDm3A/NWOGMqlwTYWF1z2WBg4c4PsIC-TVRTwAcV/xnuhjKBBs/wFlfkCYRpRA-w Thats your basic condi boon corrupt build that takes no skills to play whatsoever even if you do get out of position you will be fine because reaper had its own stab amd decent mobility on top of that you got 3k armor and almost 30k health. Take a lot of kitten skills to play this. Uggh.
Pre-Hot power necro: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vRAQNAW3djc0QLNWTD+2AHOOwFKYbGAtwMLaiqgmGtxzC-TVROwAiV/Bw+DE1NITJ4IlfkCYglRA-w
This was fun to play. It took skills to play. If got caught out of position enemy will punish you real bad and you would also have to worry about enemy gank which just doesn’t happen anymore because in current meta WTF IS GANK??? EVERYTHING IS SO kitten TANKY THERE IS NO BACKLINE ITS ALL FRONTLINE EFFING TOILET BOWL. If a thief or mesmer or try to gank a full dire necro in group fights good luck killing it lel.
Then you have eles lol dont even get me started. Its funny how eles went from almost full zerk to full nomads heal bot.
Current basic ele build:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vFAQFAGW2AshHQA4C6mXDsFWiVQKoCA-TVhZABAo8LEdAtoEMV1f0c/BSBk5yI-w
Pre-Hot ele: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vFAQFAWhMMoyhdOw6B8RMAAAFCIA-TlROwAXVCKW9HSKxGp8goOAA7PQKgBWGB-w
Eles were so much more fun pre-hot. I think ice bow should get buff again I think it was nerfed for PvE and it was a unnecessary nerf for WvW. Ele was probably one of the most difficult class to play back in the day cuz not much health pool or armor and worrying about providing waters for groups and worrying anout position and not trying to get ganked.. It just doesnt happen anymore cuz ELES ARE FULL NOMADS NOW DAYS LOL.
At this point I feel like traits classes need a complete overhaul but then again Arena Net isnt gonna do it because who cares about WvW. I also think they should bring back the old trait system just for WvW and the reason being is that the old trait system allowed more diversity. I remember how back in the guilds kept their builds secret lol with current trait system everyone is literally running the same stuff now.. There is no counter meta to be had. With old trait system if a guild group ran a specific thing and beat you with that then you would try run a different thing that would counter their builds. THAT JUST DOESNT HAPPEN ANYMORE WITH CURRENT TRAIT SYSTEM EVERYTHING IS PALE AF.
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The current damage reduction and melee running more than 3k armor with condi bomb is boring and takes no skills. I miss the days when melee only ran 2.8k to 3k armor with all power builds, those days were fun and it took skills to play those power builds.
Current Guardian Builds:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vVUQJASWl8AhWhYpQwZIwPEHJEFeDChUIPD/XAeX2A4AA-TlhXABpoJwBlg1q+DAK/Ed/hS1BQKgMXGB-w
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vVUQJASWl8AhWhYpQwZIwPEHJEFeDChU4usBwBknh/LAB-TlxRABAs/AQaC4VHQJKBZW9nLU+RKgMXGB-w
These are you basic guardian builds now days that every group runs. Some actually run more tank than that. First build is with durability and second one is with mercy runes.
Guardian builds Pre-HoT
Hammer/GS http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vVUQJAcSlsAhWhY1QwZIwPEHJEVe/+vAEvBPXKcX2A4CA-TFSQwAbUi0RJkHlBcUa0TXwKlgA2fIr6PkCgJlRA-w
Staff/GS http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vVUQJAcWlsAhWhYtQwXIwPEHJEFeDChUIvf/XAeX2A4AA-TFSQwAA2fonuAOKN6oEyjygsq/sSJ4GlIkCgJlRA-w
Bois remember when we ran wall of reflect??? but now everyone and their mother has to run purging flames amd because condition spam is so cancerous.
Current Revent Build:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vlUQJASmn3geNSuQvJRfoJlsR0jS4G6SJ4EtrkFNFSdG34H2DchRstAB4BA-TlhXABAocAW1fcQJII6CGQJno7PQKgMXGB-w But some groups run Dwarf stance beside glint because that EXTRA 50% DAMAGE REDUCTION still waiting for it to be nerfed to 33%. Then you also have backline power revenants which took over power necros… Backline power Rev: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vlAQNAS8un3guNSuQ7JRboVlsP0rS4IaWJ4EdskFNFyegJshshJNtptABoBA-TVROAByoEkIdDVr+DA7PMiyPSBMwyI-w lol yeah how op this class can be? Fury gives you 20% extra precision but with one of the rev traits you get 40% and then you also 2% extra dps per boon on the enemy and guess what this meta is about? boon duration and then you also get extra 20-40% more damage because revenant. Nice. Revenants traits need nerfs i could care less about skills.
Revenant builds Pre-HoT: WTF IS REVENANT??? WE HAD WARRIORS BABY “HAMMER EFFING STUN”.
Warriors literally made the game mode and the old meta way more fun. Warriors yelling hammer stun in your comms brought some sort of synergy between players that just doesnt happen anymore… Currently condition damage is kittened every group is running frontlime revenants because that resistance spam from mallyx back in the day you only needed sword warhorn shout heal warriors to cleanse conditions and with one or two guards with purging flames. Currently condition damage is kittened every frontline melee comp have to run revenants for mallyx but even if they do nerf condis and mallyx isnt viable anymore you still have dwarf stance which has rite of the great dwarf and it gives 50% damage reduction OP and that literally threw warrior out the meta well not completely groups still run full zerk destroyer warrior because it puts out nice dps and sustain is good if in a proper party but if left alone conditions will kill a destoryer warrior in seconds. I personally seriously miss shout heal warriors with banners because there wasnt any stack res meta that we have currently. Back in the day if you try stack res someone you would get punish really hard so people had to run warriors for banners and it forced people to be aware of their positioning and their moves because if they didnt then warriors would have to waste their banners on them. With current meta if you go down lel MERCY EFFING RUNE. 2014 meta made so much more sense than this current bs.
The amount of CCs came with HoT and the way meta turned into. I agree that the stability should go back to what it used to be back in the days. Without stacks and just straight up stab.
Exactly, WvW needs new blood. The only way WvW is gonna get new blood is through bringing PvE players or advertising WvW rather than just PvE.
First of all Arena Net opening up BG really kittened me off. It was an over stacked server and now its even more stacked. T1 matches were so close before they opened BG and look at it now. Like what were you thinking Arena Net? I get it people were raging for BG not being opened for a while but who care that server is stacked and is hibergate. We all know this very well.
Now how to fix population.
1. Introduce new players to WvW. A lot of players dont even know that there is another game mode called WvW and they just stay in PvE. One way I can think of inteoducing new players is every time a player hits level 80 they get a small message on their screen giving a little introduction about WvW. I think it will definitely introduce a lot of new players to the game mode and also that introduction actually take those players to one of the map EB and home BL preferes.
2. Advertise WvW. I see Guild Wars 2 advertisement on a lot of websites, youtube, twitch etc but they are all PvE related. Arena Net needs to invest more in game mode specific advertisement. There isnt any other game out there that has anything close to WvW. Arena Net take advantage of that. Advertise WvW. Contact WvW communities and ask us to make a short epic 2-3 min video of WvW and all the things you could do and then just review all these videos and make a small trailer for WvW. Trust me Arena Net it will catch a lot of attention attention of a lot of mmo players from all over the world.
3. WvW legendary backpiecea and WvW specific skins. A lot of people have said it already but yeah it can definitely bring a lot of players into WvW and it will actually force those players to play WvW not just afk at spawn like reward tracks.
Those are the three things I could think of but I am sure there a lot more things Arena Net can do. So boiis please leave your ideas to fix population. To be honest at this point the only way Arena Net can fix population is by bringing in those PvErs and introducing new players to the game mode. Also boiis leave your thoughts on the idea above.