And for elona we will not forget what u do here next week, i think u forgot why u finished 2nd first week but nvm u preferd win with a kittening start instead of playing fairly now and it’s sad !
I think you forgot (or not even noticed) how you won the first week and as a consequence overestimate your power a bit.
We may end as looser next week, if both will focus us, but still we would be able to decide who will be 1st and who will be 2nd.
Your safest (only?) way to win next week is to not bring up one server against you, but let us fight the german ranking undisturbed. If you intervene decisively into the german-german fight, both may turn against you to punish you for the sponged victory in the first round
If this holds for the first 5 days only: you can have any 3-ways fights you want on weekends and as long as matches are close (5% as above or 10% or …) you can have them as well.
If you say that allies automatically return possessions in the home-section of the ally to the ally after 1-2 ticker your second problem is solved as well.
But the boring 2nd and 3rd concentrate on each other and let 1st win unchallenged will be over. The even more boring consequence of this current strategy is that not the fight between 2nd and 3rd decide who will be 2nd, but the focus of the unchallenged 1st determines the 2nd.
Of course, it can also be tuned what alliance means.
- Be not able to fight (with return of possessions)
- not be able to attack what the other owns
- not be able to attack the home-sections of the other
- ….
Even a scaling of these levels of alliance depending on the current imbalance of the match would be possible.
Not sure if this was discussed in the english results of the CDI, but in the german one it was mentioned by the Community Manager.
The intention of the 3-sided matches was that 2nd and 3rd fight the 1st together. However this nearly never happens.
This could be enforced: whenever 1st and 3rd are more than 5% of total match score apart, 2nd and 3rd cannot attack each other.
E.g. currently:
Desolation 145 858
Gandara 142 611
Far Shiverpeaks 104 142
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Total 392611
5% Total 19630
1st-3rd diff 41716
So Gandara and FSP would be in enforced alliance. till either the gap between 1st and 3rd reduces to less than 5% (no more enforced alliance) or Gandara becomes first (enforced alliance between Deso and FSP).
I would set this only for the first 5 or 6 days of the match AND let the matches end (and not start) with the weekend. E.g. Match reset on sunday evening 22:00 UTC for EU, and as usual some hours later in NA.
This would result in slower match development in the beginning that are longer undecided (due to the enforced alliance) giving it the final race when people have time to play namely at weekends.
the next week propaganda will be a bit more interesting, we won’t forget
You will need knowledge of german or bing translate to read the propaganda war of next week. my prediction is: Elona and Riverside will have a focus over 75% on each other.
So yes, as ignored winner, you can choose the 2nd as in all match ups
For JS players: Stop to think than SFR focus JS … if we really focus JS, you couldn t comeback on elona ….
No idea if you do or don’t (forum warrior only), but liga-pts would give you all reason to focus Jade more than Elona.
If Jade is 2nd this match and wins next (Because RS and ELona will fight for german ranking and not for international rank again) they end with 27 pts.
If SFR wins this and Vizu-Pikens manage to push you back to 3rd next week, SFR will have only 27pts as well…
PS: Yes, this post is an attempt to do some Pro-Elona/Contra-Jade propaganda warfare, what else
I agree with AR(1)-JS(5)-KO(3)
RS(1)-PS(3 or 5)-SFR could be won by SFR or PS, probably depends only on which one is attacked more by RS.
I hope and think:
ER(3)-BB(1)-Vizu(5), because BB cannot make many points during BBs prime-time (i.e. after 2am) as Vizu will take the night points and BB without night points will loose.
Maybe Elona can come to a better coverage one time again and then we will meet again.
We will Meet Vizu again long before we get better coverage, namely next week together with Baruch. Maybe that means the Vizu will not feel so much ignored and “left alone” in the night with BB
Time to think what would you like to happen after the league.
My favored would be some variance around the 24/7 coverage war.
We all know now (or latestly soon when the league is done) which server have the best 24/7 coverage. Would be nice to bring some variance into this!
Some experience with different time modi would be nice.
To still have wvw 24/7 active several leagues could be combined!
The weekend league and the weekday league for instance.
7 weekends make one league the 7 weekdays make a second league, both run in parallel
Or the 7 days time slice leagues one at 0-6, 6-12, 12-18, 18-24 (all UTC times)
So 4 matches and therefore leagues run in parallel a match takes 7 days a 6 hours
Matches are saved and restored 4 times a day.
Would bring some interesting surprises I would guess.
And not the boring repetition of the coverage wars we all know now since 14 month and where we know 90% of match outcomes before the match even started.
You can look and write about the bad things as Boa (and a lot germans in general) did and complain that it is not perfect. But in the end it only leads to all people look at the bad side and altruistic people feel bad and loose fun. And the egoistic people feel good, as the world is as bad as they always thought, and any non-egoistic behavior is just stupid, given that the world is so bad, as everyone writes.
You can look and write about all the good things as Troma did. On all servers you always will find a lot of them. If all people talk about the good things that happen, the altruistic people feel good and have fun, and the egoistic people feel bad and may even change their behavior
Conclusion: “Always look at the bright side of life” is not only a good joke, but also deep wisdom to actually improve the world as it gives attention to the good things and people want attention.
I’m just wondering Junkpile, do you have any respect for YOUR server?
No really. It’s just server where i am playing. I could play somewhere else, but it’s same kitten everywhere. It’s probably even worse in servers which have strong community. They always try to tell what to do. Viz is probably hell because of troma.
Ok. That’s enlightening a lot of things. I feel sorry for the other part of SFR’s community.
Interesting. For me Junkpile is the prototypical SFR-player since ages. He shaped my picture of how SFR is. Are there people on SFR that think and post different? If yes, why don’t they publicly disagree to him?
Now that I’ve seen it and read the forum comments about it,
I even more think:
Make it a third PvP-mode maybe with the same matchup, but
- There are already to many buf for the stronger side, even without bloodlust
- Stomping-Scores and WvW-Scores should not be mixed up, but separately counted.
- There are already more than enough things that cause laags in WvW, there is really no reason to add another major laag-source to it. (on the other side in a separate mode with own maps and small population caps, it may not be that worse)
ruins must be actively defended or they uncap by themselves
Hm, maybe that should be extended to every point: Either the keep/tower/camp is garrisioned (e.g. by 1/2 it’s point value) or it reverts to neutrality.
As soon as you have 24h hours queue you also have 24h coverage
Would be a sure victory, wouldn’kitten
But, maybe ANet should also make shure that everyone that queued up on the winner world should get the price, not only the ones that finally made it to the map.
A little bit more than 3 month ago Devon Carver wrote on the Future of WvW:
“Right now our game rewards you for holding an objective, not necessarily for taking it, and overwhelmingly favors the last server to log out for the day. We have some ideas in the pipeline to try to increase scoring when people are playing the game and to make it much more difficult to keep your territory without actively guarding it.” https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/devon-carver-on-the-future-of-world-vs-world/
This was a pressing topic from the beginning, and nothing happen, neither since the beginning nor since this anouncement.
Try http://www.bing.com/translator it will not produce high quality translations, but quite often it is sufficient to grasp the meaning. (I was able to grasp meaning out of the french forum with it’s help quite often)
But I am in doubt that the german match thread so far contains anything that worth the effort of reading. I did not noticed any post about Jade and in fact not many posts are concerned with play style et al.
“I think it is a very good matchup. Nice fights many battles. Hardly anyone escapes is hardly one hidden in the towers/fortresses. And jade plays considerably more reasonable than it did for example Piken. You always go to where it is best for the balance, and not where perhaps the most points are to pick up. Special respect to RS: you play well and you’re very reluctant in the Forum. Stay as you are!”
I really like the good of random in his mood he was today in EU.
Everyone got what he deserves, which is not always what he may like, but that would be an not satisfiable constraint anyway.
While it is very unlikely we would put supply runs in straight up like this, it is very likely something of this nature will make its way into the game in the future. I too think there would be a serious value to allowing supply to be strategically moved by players. One note is that we would not likely set it up such that players could pull supply from a depot and move it to another directly, because that would almost definitely create some serious conflict and open the door to griefing and sabotage even more than it already is. It’s definitely on the table though.
You could combine it with: Produce the supplies you want to transport in a supply camp.
Similar to the skill points on maps, if you uninterrupted use this production-point for 30secs-1min you get 10 handheld-sups to carry.
i don’t often say this, but this was probably the worst week i’ve ever ran in wvw… 1 server that does absolutely nothing but building 25 arrow carts in a keep and barely dares to actually meet your zerg in a fight, unless they outnumber you madly, and on the other side gandara that does nothing unless there is absolutely no activity on the enemy side of the map.
Sounds (and match score looks) like Deso played the underdog role in matches now for to long (and you played it well) and is stuck in the opportunity mode. But this is only adequate, if you are the underdog, if you are (were) the the favorite you have to press for victory. Good Luck (re-)learning it
If you win you gain ranking. If you lose you go down in ranking. How is this unrelated to guild strenght?
As long as only yourself decide to participate or not you can gain rating by careful choice and even by fighting only fake opponents.
Concerning your football comparisions: It is NOT the team that selects the date and the opponent, it’s the tournament that does so and if you aren’t ready when required you are lost.
1) Non-ranked GvG guild ( or at best 15th spot ) refuses 3rd or 4th ranked guild in EU because they don’t want to face a clearly more exerienced and better team ( according to the GvG website).
2) Non- ranked GvG guild ( or at best 15th spot ) thinks that it would be better to train GvG with an easier adversary .
3) 3rd ( 4th ) ranked pro GvG guild decided to trick the obviously lesser guild ( according to the GvG ranking ) by using a fake guild name.
4) 3rd ( or 4th ) ranked guild underestimated the lesser ranked guild and get the butterflies beaten out of them
5) 3rd ( or 4th ) ranked pro EU GvG team decides to come on the forums and whine , despite the fact that they used the lowest possible tricks in the book to fight ZDs.
Second, if I read all this above the ranking has nothing to do with guild strength, only with ego-boost.
If such a ranking should have something to do with strength and readyness belongs to strength, if would need some more rules:
- challenges have to be made at the web-site
- you can only call-out a higher ranked guild (but never a lower ranked)
- challenges possible in the current server-match cannot be refused (refusal = loss),
if the challenged guild hasn’t made at least 3 other gvg’s in this match.
- challenges have to be made in the order of call out registration.
- at least 1 referee from the third server (but better also 2 from the participating
servers (but not the fighting guilds)) has to be present which records the video as well.
- the referees may disqualify a guild for cheating (= loss of round, 3rd time loss of match).
- guilds must be associated to a server at any time (no-longer existing guilds have to deleted, or maybe moved to a hall of fame) to enable automatic availability checking.
It’s perfectly acceptable to you to trick a guild into GvGing you by using a fake name?
Is it really perfectly acceptable to deny GvG against a known guild and accept one against a no name guild?
I mean if this gvg rating should have a sense at et al, a refusal should give you minus (for not being ready to fight). And strategic selection of guilds to fight against make the rating useless as well.
And yeah, secondary goal already reached: We denied SFR the points to move ahead of Vizu. We even trashed enough night-build T3 to be even temporarly ahead of SFR.
Denying you to slurp many points from us is of course good for us, as this means we keep them. And maybe you know the German idioms: “Schadenfreude ist die schönste Freude” or “Wer den Schaden hat braucht für den Spott nicht mehr zu sorgen”
But I would be far from dissatisfied, if you slurp some more points from Piken
And the following makes perfectly sense, doesn’t it?
Now to the primary goal: Get ahead of Piken! (The SFR waypoint in Overlook is useful, thanks)
For Elona!!
For Elona? You mean for VS?
Were you the guy with the German and French flags?
I live in a country where the majority speaks german and a third speak french and the flag looks quite different from the French one. But of course, if I would sit under the EU flag (which I do not), I would be aware that the German-French friendship is a very important matter.
It got moved to get cleansed out and its back after i contacted the local Forum Authorities xD
So please everyone keep it calm this time.
And no hacking accusations. An email about a deleted reply I got indicates that the arrow-cart discussion was the reason for the clean-up.
And yeah, secondary goal already reached: We denied SFR the points to move ahead of Vizu. We even trashed enough night-build T3 to be even temporarly ahead of SFR.
Now to the primary goal: Get ahead of Piken! (The SFR waypoint in Overlook is useful, thanks)
Lvl 1 your 1 skills becomes a priorisation in beeing executed by the server
Lvl 2 your 1-2 skills becomes a priorisation in beeing executed by the server
…
Lvl 10 your 1-10 skills becomes a priorisation in beeing executed by the server
Lvl 11 your 1 skil has a higher prio than those with 1-10
…
Lvl 21 your 1 skil has a higher prio than those with 1-20
…
Further boosted by AC damage reduction on golems as on other siege.
But opposing to golems other siege are: immoveable, max 5 per local area and have a user that take full damage.
And ballistas are nearly nowhere usable for defense (only exception is the nord-east BL tower).
If only there was still some honor and chivalry in this WvW community. Only the vizunah players on the forum have the decency to congratulate and compliment their opponents if they win.
Hi all,
From T1 till T4 we have 1 candidate each for Rank #3, #4, #5, #6.
And this week it seems to be a quite open race.
Currently the order is
Elona,
Piken,
Riverside
Deso
but Deso and RS have the highest ticker, what will it be on Friday 20:00?
Discuss here if your match-thread only gives you blob-accusations.
Soulbound. Ok. But what’s really annoying me, is that this was a mail exclusive for the first char that logged in and not to the account. That this was my PvE-only-chars (wvw rank 0) means this is just an item for the trash.
They didn’t destroy ACs behind the gate, the destroyed ACs in the lordroom.
" Maybe windowed mode gives a advantage there, but players are not to blame it is anet for giving that."
No.
Players have been banned for taking advantages of exploits like that. You don’t need hacks for exploits.
Mmmno, that wasn’t Elona-style gloating. I edited it now to include sig to show I’m from Gandara. That’s just the view I woke up to this morning & thought it’d be amusing to show fellow Gandalfs that we’ve got our work cut out for us…
If you wake up and see this you can say to yourself: Cool a lot of thinks to capture.
If I wake up and see this I can only conclude: Damm, nothing left to do
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you would have made your humor more clear