Guild Wars 2

Dinas Dragonbane.2978:

Someone said it in a similar thread topic but, say you retake 90% of a map, the best defense would be to keep 5 people in the zone as the enemy could bring what….10?

And what happens if a server gets demoralized because they are a far 3rd place and quit showing up to WvW? Should the other two servers get punished just because the 3rd server quit halfway in the week? Then that gets in their way when they have NO control over that third server…attempting to police this will not work :P

This would be a valid argument if we lived in a perfect world where all the PUGs followed the order to a T to not zone into the home borderland. But as you know that is near impossible.

Plus with a ratio of say, 2:1 that’s a zerg of 10 to 20 that could easily cause some damage. Not to mention if you throw in the idea that if everyone from a home borderland logged out of the zone it WOULD NOT kick the opponents out but rather restrict them from coming in. So that 40 man zerg you just pushed back to spawn can easily wipe your 5 defenders off the map.

I can see what the OP is trying to accomplish and honestly I am on the fence about it.

I could definitely see how this would create balance in WvW. The people who disagree are merely getting upset that this will affect their servers. I think I saw a Blackgate posting against this suggestion? Lol. No offense, your server is awesome (I use to be on it) but your server is probably the direct focus of this suggestion considering your overnight presence out mans your NA presence.

How would this create balance? Obvious really.

- There will be no more Blackgate overnight populations of 100+ vs 15 defenders on a Borderland (exaggerated, yes I know). This gives the other servers a fighting chance rather than no chance at all. The heavy overnight servers will still have their precious advantage of out numbering their opponents 2:1. But it will come down to more about who has more skill rather than who got lucky with their oceanic/asia/europe/assusie transfers.

Here is where it gets a little sticky for me though….

So you implemenet a static ratio between invaders and defenders. Again, this will make it come down to who has more skill (strategically and per player) rather than sheer numbers. But do servers with higher WvW populations deserve to be “punished”? I mean, the current system obviously favors the amount coverage along with numbers rather than actual skill involved. But should high WvW population servers be stuck fighting in tier 9 all because tier 9’s skill level is higher than what that WvW server can field?

Also, another point that I don’t has been mentioned (sorry didn’t read all the posts, just skimmed and saw the usual “recruit more EU! Problem Solved” fail posts). Since hardcore WvW guilds won’t be able to field as many numbers than people may begin to start shifting servers again. Everyone begins shifting servers causing the WvW populations to completely balance out so those who want to play in WvW can because the servers they will be playing will be on par WvW population wise with the other two servers? Does that make sense? Than it will definitely come down to who has more skill/strategical players on each server rather than who has better coverage.

On the fence about it but it would be interesting for Anet to throw it on the white board.

I already made a similar post:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/T2-NA-Tarnished-Coast-4AM-12PM-CST-Needed

This thread is suggesting that all players join TC when in reality we need people willing to cover a coverage gaps.

pot.6805:

Always funny to see certain players trying to downplay someone elses success.

Also it is pretty easy to lose rating in a system that rewards losers and not winners. SoR is also losing rating this week.

Aww, I wouldn’t take it to heart. In all honesty, BG is doing great. Your overnight crew is something fierce. I am jealous.

Just hope that you don’t get in a rut that TC did in tier 3. We only put in enough effort to win the match rather than all our effort. This caused our rating to remain flat-lined which caused us to stay in tier 3 for so long.

Just taken.

There are spots available. You just have to check the status at certain times.

I feel like my recruitment post kind of sums up nicely how “TC has earned it’s spot in tier 2”:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/T2-NA-Tarnished-Coast-4AM-12PM-CST-Needed

Binafus.8153:

We do need one ladder, and there are less people WvWvWing.

So we can wait till Anet does it, which might never happen or move over and try it out.

EU servers are broke up by language so the chances of them moving to NA is less than NA moving to them.

This.

Europe has it pretty easy to be honest.

English server. German server. French Server.

Whatever language you speak, you go to that server. It is very unlikely that a german will go to a French server. But how likely is it for someone to transfer from JQ to TC in NA? Pretty likely, as there is nothing holding them back. There is no reason to transfer in the Europe tiers because….well….if you’re German than you go with the German server lol.

North America is one big melting pot so there is no distinction to be made.

Anet seriously does need to rethink this whole 24/7 coverage issue. It seems to be a coverage/recruitment game rather than actual skill.

Now, I understand there is already another thread opened about recruitment into the Tarnished Coast server but that same thread was created months ago and is very vague on exactly what we need.

I will also be taking a different approach at recruitment. So instead of the usual rant about “my server has the most awesomesauce BBQ community ever” posts. I will bring forth a more analytical approach with raw numbers and statistical data to do the talking.

First off a little about the server Tarnished Coast. Tarnished Coast is the unofficial role playing (RP) server of Guild Wars 2. This implies that we do infact have a friendly and open atmosphere. However, you do not have to be a role player (as I am not) to enjoy the family-like relationships this server with holds.

Tarnished Coast has recently moved into tier 2. However! We are not and have not ever been a bandwagon server. This is shown by looking at the following graph:

[IMG]http://i46.tinypic.com/6qxz05.jpg[/IMG]

Notice that Tarnished Coast never jumps up 3 or more positions? Instead, our position evolution has been a healthy gradual increase overtime. There is no exponential growth patterns to be found, which indicates no massive influaction of transfers to our server.

How stable is the community of Tarnished Coast? Meaning, will players jump ship if Tarnished Coast begins to lose its momentum? This brings another set of match ups in our past:

[IMG]http://i47.tinypic.com/2zywuw2.jpg[/IMG]

This picture depicts the final score of BG vs TC vs FA match up. As you can see, TC has had it’s moments where they have completely been dominated. Unstable servers would collapse right? People jump ship to join a better server. Well, let’s see if that happened to Tarnished Coast….

[IMG]http://i48.tinypic.com/33xtwsj.jpg[/IMG]

As you can see that did not happen to Tarnished Coast. Instead, we learned from that match up and improved our tactics and strategy. The community saw our mistakes and learned from it.

[IMG]http://i45.tinypic.com/35by2oj.jpg[/IMG]

But wait, that only happened once….wrong again. Tarnished Coast got dominated before.

And if you view the remaining history after:

[IMG]http://i46.tinypic.com/rb0f3m.jpg[/IMG]

You can clearly see a slow development overtime where the server, as a whole, increases their skill levels and tactics rather than their sheer numbers.

So, as you can see Tarnished Coast is a stable but friendly server who work together to provide competition in WvW.

But as a server moves into higher and higher tiers, their 24/7 coverage begins to grow importance. This is where Tarnished Coast needs your help.

We, as a server, are looking for a guild or two, or even players, that are willing to join Tarnished Coast and help provide coverage in the following times:

4:00AM to 12:00PM Central Standard Time.

If you’re wondering what that time frame is in your time zone, I suggest googling “What is 4:00AM CST in (insert your timezone here)”.

Also, our server does have open slots available. Yes, our server is “Full” but so is every other server at certain times. I suggest checking the status every 30 minutes. This is how a lot of people that I personally know had luck joining.

Something that the OP stated but can be applied to everyone:

Siege is much MUCH more effective than a player can be, no matter what level.

Also, another tip for anyone, especially lower levels, if you’re running through a tower/keep, please “Use” the siege for just one second. This is called “ticking” so the siege doesn’tdisappear. Siege disappears after 3p minutes of inactivity.

Escorting yaks matter! Yaks bring supply to keeps/towers to finish upgrades. A tower with wooden gates/walls is a free tower for the enemy essentially. A keep without a waypoint is that much more easier for the enemy to control your forces over.

I will definitely say that IoJ is right. BG and SoR are very, very different opponents than CD/FA.

I think I could count the number of times on one hand where I actually saw REGULAR (non-superior) siege being used against a tower/keep from BG and SoR lol.

BG’s overnight crew is really something else. SoR’s oceanic presence is definitely crazy.

One night that I won’t forget was last night. SoR was very adament about taking TC’s bay. They built 5x (seriously 5) superior trebs in BlueVale. Guarding those 5x superior trebs was 15 (again, not kidding), superior balistas, and guarding that siege was a 30 man army.

Tier 2 is what it is cracked up to be and more lol. Makes me curious how every server performs/holds up after the holidays.

Basically, what I am saying is definitely take notes from IoJ. They have obviously brought back some tactics taken from BG and SoR. They may not have the numbers but the tactics are probably there.

Where is everyone getting this set of patch notes? I do not see it in the Anouncements forum or in this forum.

Sharpclaw.7510:

These two days have been great. Question is what happens on the holidays in full. For as even a match this is, that’s really going to make a lot of difference.

Thing is, this whole “holiday” is a double edge sword really.

One hand, people are out of town thus can’t play.

On the other hand, people are out of school due ot winterbreak AND most people (me and majority at my work) take off work for a week or two during Christmas time.

So, in fact, this could be MORE population than normal during certain times, but less during other times.

Either way, it will be interesting to see how well all servers hold a month from now when the holidays are behind us and students as well as adults are most likely back into the “real life grind”.

Plus a nice post on the forums may make the guild that recruited said player to rethink the type of players they recruit.

@Vodka
Nice bolding of certain letters.

Take a good look guys, these are those type of players :/.

Rise above and ignore them though.

As if spying does any good. The real communication is within guild mumbles.

Jeknar.6184:

Isle of Janthir has the lead…
Err…
Tarnished Coast has the lead.

You guys are awesome… But BG still close, so don’t get overconfident.

Scores for 7pm on GMT -3 (2pm PST)

HA! Awesome screenshot man! Lol. Love it!

But no, TC definitely does not get overconfident or even kitteny for that matter. My point was that we are surviving in tier 2. If we were just numbers with no skills or tactics, we would have been crushed.

We may not come out as #1 by the end of the week, but I don’t believe we will be blown out of the water either.

And we had people from FA tell us we are only numbers with no skill….

Where are those people now? Told you TC wasn’t trying as hard as you think we were against CD and FA xD.

Wow! This was AWESOME! I love it!

“JQ and SBI, do they belong in this tier?” Lol, good stuff guys!

Score update as of the time of this post.

Good fights all around! I am curious to see how well our overnight crew holds up.

Nice! That’d be really interesting to incorporate that into TC’s tactics.

ykyk.2740:

I sure hope TC is taking a break and preparing for the reset because the maps are barren today…FA and CD are having a field day with us atm.

We are, at least PiNK is lol.

The last few times I logged in, Jadon had his commander tag telling people to /sleep in front of keeps/tower doors, and sometimes in front of enemy spawns.

There isn’t a point to put a whole lot of effort when you’re 100k+ ahead of 2nd place and tier 2 reset is within 24 hours.

Save your energy.

Tammuz.7361:

Its how we compete even with lower numbers during primetime, concentrate forces in 1 bl and EBG: if we controll everything in BGBL and EBG we are at +405 which means that even though we dont have the population to match say SOR during NA primetime nor IOJ during oceanic time we can still prevent capping via superior siege material comitments (BG uses more seige).

Interesting. This will be an interesting match indeed….

Good luck IoJ. I really hope to see you guys succeed. It sounds like you had a rough time against BG and SoR.

Riddickk.7091:

FA and CD already underestimating IOJ?
I wouldn’t sandbag if I was you guys, Bring it all or don’t bother. IOJ wants to fight, not pvDoor

I think you mean overestimating. A few posts on this page alone already stated they will ignore each other (CD and FA) to target IoJ alone.

I really hope IoJ is prepared.

Um, wow guys? How about you just play it fairly before dog piling on IoJ.

IoJ may be a completely equal match with you guys. You never know.

Now, lets try not to pick on the new kid on the block. I can already feel the target on my forehead along with the kick me signs on my back :P lol.

Jayne.9251:

Send exploits with documentation (pix, video,details, time, etc.) to exploits@arenanet.com

They could also: go to www.youtube.com —> Search for GW2 Exploits --> Sort by Date —> Profit!

So many videos have been made showing exactly how to do each exploit that it is ridiculous.

Swirling Winds requires a team of ele’s to completely do nothing else except rotate spamming Swirling Winds.

It’s honestly very strategical and should definitely remain ingame.

Btw, other classes have similar abilities. When I was doing it we had 2x ele’s (that includes me) and a thief rotating blocking shots from Garrison to DE. Granted it is much harder for the thief but it is doable.

Anet needs to set their priorities:

Exploits > Event Bugs > Class Balance > General Bugs (bugged skills, stuck story lines, etc, etc)

Yea, I agree with Coral. I am starting to get a bit nervous lol.

But, I am completely off all next week so I will be fighting my hardest for TC!

Haldunius.7864:

I was just expressing my gratitude. It’s well known that server exploits are rare occurrences and only happen on a few, select servers so I was glad that DivineBeing didn’t try to blame the whole server for the actions of one or a few. I’m assuming that was the point of his post because I can’t see any other reason for it.

You mean besides trying to make those who performed the exploit feel guilty and low after reading my post? But you thought of that…..

Astry.9476:

Can say the same thing about TC and CD. If you see it, screenshot and could you let the folks on FA know?

You mean TC lost their entire BL so some TCers were forced to used exploits?

I know what you mean.

It just sucked considering we were already fighting FA AND CD in FA BL. So having to deal with exploiters at our towers was ridiculous.

CD, it is probably a really good idea to not attack us in another servers BL. It just isn’t smart tactics at all lol. It’s always best that the two opposing servers in a BL avoid each other that way the home BL has to split their force against two seperate number of invaders.

I can’t even remember the amount of times CD tried to take Green Briar. After we wiped them each time, players kept asking me if they can push to Blue Lake. What was the verdict? No.

CD fighting TC all along the way of TC wiping FA off FA BL was just tedious. We even left CD hills and Blue Lake. Kept telling our forces to not touch CD in FA BL. Blue Lake had a big gapping hole in it and hills north gate was at 40% just by quaggans alone! That pretty much says you gave up on those two towers/keeps so we eventually just took them too lol.

Today in FA BL it was interesting to fight some FA exploiters from taking Cliffside and Green Briar. Flipped them both twice :/.

Not blaming the entire server, but that tactic is just pathetic. I understand you lost your entire BL but never resort to using exploits.

Again, not blaming the entire server.

I am still waiting for the FA post about how they were farming us at FA BL’s Dreaming Bay from Garrison xD.

Oh, how it was fun to dump a bunch of AOE’s into the middle of a zerg, RTL out, than /dance in front of the big gapping hole in Dreaming Bay’s wall. The badges were rolling in from the 20+ Balista’s and Arrow Cart’s on the other side of that hole.

Good. Game. Lol!

selan.8354:

Erm which PRO guild are u talking about?Hopefully not ours, as we are all against hacking and exploiting.if it happenes quickly with our guild, you either had A a mesmer inside od B not checked all your walls as we are sneacky like that.but hey,if it is PRO you are accusing from aspenwood server, i wanna see that video!And checking our TS, there is only 7 people on atm and our guild usually isn’t on till in 3 hours from now.

Relax FA lol. His post referenced a completely different tier. He should have quoted the post but instead just retyped it and stated it was posted by X user.

phaneo.4597:

DivineBeing.2086:

phaneo.4597:

Guess it’s something else regarding some guild transferring over. Saw the other post after my first one. If we get guilds that exploit, I’m leaving WvWvW (not that my crappy 3hr playtime means much to server anyways, but I always held pride in fighting for a server well known for mature players) until things are set right. I’d rather lose in T3, rather than exploit my way to victory in T2. We want respectable guilds (which we have), not the one’s that are hated or feared (from that other thread).

Honestly, if this is true than you were bound to leave sometime anyway. There are bad apples out there and some are bound to show up on your door step. If you leave the server because of these bad apples than honestly you are letting them win and you will be running for the rest of your life. You can’t escape the bad apples. You can only report them and hope that Anet handles the situation appropriately.

Also, what is with this prejudgement with the guild DEV. For all you know, they could have turned over a new leaf by kicking out the exploiters.

Well, I didn’t say I’m leaving server, but only W3. There are other things to do in the game you know :P. Anyway the other day I’ve seen some distasteful things from a few people on my own server that really disappointed me. Someone already brought it to the notice here, regarding Hills Keep on CDBL and I won’t go further into it except it was disappointing. So I’m keeping myself away from W3 for this week. I’m off to do other things right now.

And yeah, as mentioned in my post, there are lots of ’if’s and ’but’s. So IF we find ourselves being continuously legitimately blamed for obvious exploits I don’t mind PvE’ing until things get to normal. So its just a IF … THEN situation I mentioned. No pre-judgement on the guild except what I learned from those who faced them in the past and based on the guild’s own post about “feared and hated” guild and “destruction of servers”, not sure how I’m supposed to take it.

And what’s with this attachment anyway? I’ll have my reservations about the guild for sure, and no judgements passed there. I had them when a few from GODS transferred over, and its gonna take time to fully know them as I haven’t worked with them much. And being perfect? Sure, I’m not perfect and nobody is. And I take pride in being a noob that doesn’t know how to take advantage of some in-game glitch to exploit and learning to play. If there’s someone who’s perfect, pls show me I shall bow to them.

I understand but that kind of mentality is what kills a server.

I and a group of 20ish transferred from BG to TC. Why? This exact mentality. The whole “enemy is being mean to us by calling us hackers/exploiters” (even though it wasn’t just OUR server doing it). So what did majority of the WvW guilds in BG do when it happened to them in tier 1? Exactly what. You are stating, “not participating in WvW until it changes”, in BG’s case until they dropped a tier.

There is a reason why BG doesn’t care to go tier 1. SBI and JQ are a bunch of whiners.

phaneo.4597:

Guess it’s something else regarding some guild transferring over. Saw the other post after my first one. If we get guilds that exploit, I’m leaving WvWvW (not that my crappy 3hr playtime means much to server anyways, but I always held pride in fighting for a server well known for mature players) until things are set right. I’d rather lose in T3, rather than exploit my way to victory in T2. We want respectable guilds (which we have), not the one’s that are hated or feared (from that other thread).

Honestly, if this is true than you were bound to leave sometime anyway. There are bad apples out there and some are bound to show up on your door step. If you leave the server because of these bad apples than honestly you are letting them win and you will be running for the rest of your life. You can’t escape the bad apples. You can only report them and hope that Anet handles the situation appropriately.

Also, what is with this prejudgement with the guild DEV. For all you know, they could have turned over a new leaf by kicking out the exploiters.

phaneo.4597:

My guess? This happened:

http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA

Check next week’s matchup section.

It’s still too early though, the week has only just started. Not sure how the momentum goes after the weekend for all 3 servers and the one’s above and below our tier. Anything can change until reset (or atleast 2 days before reset).

Oh my gosh! That is not good. We weren’t suppose to be in tier 2 until AFTER the Wintersday Event!

This will hurt…..

Lanimal.6541:

Elite Slasher.3561:

Game of Throes 2 By Elite Slasher

After a little critical thinking and going through everything whats going on lately here is an update. TC have another server wide meeting of guilds and commanders and decide to push to tier 2 at all cost because FA/CD are are just too weak for them….

-SNIPPED-

To be continued…

Hope to see more good fighting! Bring on the fun!

Asking Anet to read this story and verify all information here please. Thanks you.

Paranoid much? We don’t need to manipulate you guys to beat you, we just use good scouts and keep an eye on the supply?

Actually, I find Elite Slasher’s post to be quite flattering.

Look at it this way. No matter how untrue and far fetched this guy’s story telling is, he actually believes this stuff! He thinks so highly of TC that we would have such a HUGE plan in the grand scheme of things like some of the stuff he listed.

For example, in his last post he stated something about TC staging the Dolyak event in order to give reason for us to fight FA. That just seems like a lot of extra unnecessary work considering you can look at the map right now and see TC’s name across ALL BL’s while still owning their home BL.

I mean, I always felt like we could use some improvement in our organization (there is always room for improvement!), but this guy makes it sound like we are master strategist. As if TC is capable of controlling each and every server like puppets. In a sense, he insults his own server for falling for such fallacies (if they were real).

More stories Elite! More stories!

kanikani.2430:

What is your solution to not having tiers stick this way forever? What will make people not get “Tired of Fighting the Same Servers”?

Neither of DivineBeing solutions or Oreo solutions are decent because it basically takes the same thing but adds a one or two servers more as opponents (from higher or lower tiers). That is not enough for variety long term (say years). So instead of playing 2 or 3 opponents forever, I get 4 or 5. Wow big variety, that is a game changer.

But one of my solutions DOES fix this problem.

If #1 server in tier 3 that has won 3x consectutive times in a row and the #3 server in tier 2 has lost 3x consecutive times in a row than they swap. What does this in fact do?

For clarity and readibility sakes let’s name these servers that just swapped:

- Server A = Tier 3 server that just went to tier 2.
- Server B = Tier 2 server that just dropped to tier 3.

Ok, so Server A now has a morale boost! Why? They want to prove that they are, in fact, worthy of tier 2. So they rally like never before. Let’s say Server A completely dominates tier 2, there rating jumps substantially right? Well, the other two servers in tier 2 probably have a high enough rating that they won’t be dropping to tier 3 anytime soon. But wait? What if, server B also completely dominates tier 3? Their rating may go above 3rd place tier 2, which will cause Server B to return to tier 2! Now, what if server B dominates tier 3 but cannot achieve a high enough rating? Well, they will swap with tier 2’s 3rd place server after 3x consectutive wins/losses!

You take the above scenario and sweep it across all tiers, you get A LOT of different potential match ups.

See the solution is: Server Morale! By allowing the server who has won 3x+ consectutively in a tier a chance in the above rank, it gives the servers population something to strive for! New opponents to out strategizes.

Btw, my scenario example is just that ONE example. There are multiple different scenarios that can pan out which can really get the rankings fluctuating!

DivineBeing.2086:

It seems a lot of what people are suggesting wouldn’t fix the original problem of fighting the same few servers for the last few months, despite the fact that your server has consistently been 1st every weeek!

Suggestions such as: Balance the WvW population. Ok, so it makes the match more even. This may flip some server rankings around now, but when the rankings settle again down the road we will be stuck with the same exact problem! Why? A server such as TC could be stuck in this zone, where they don’t belong in tier 3 but yet their rating doesn’t increase enough to tier 2, so the winning server just continues to crush the other two servers, week after week. Btw, not saying this is TC’s situation, just an example.

Just requoting to try to crush this whole “balance WvW population fixes all problems” nonsense.

Balancing WvW populations would only even out the number of players on the field. As stated in my quote, sure this may flip some rankings around at first, but after the dust settles, we will be back in the exact same problem we are in now!. Just because WvW populations would be evenly distributed doesn’t mean matches will start fluctuating.

So balancing WvW populations = very VERY bad band aid fix.

The root problem: Winning servers for each tier keep dominating that tier. The winning server begins to get bored of the match so they go with the whole “play enough to just beat the other two servers”, which completely goes against the Glicko rating system. Glicko rating system = performance of the server, not if they win or lose.

If a group of players (server) wins week after week after week thinking if they just keep on winning than eventually they will hit tier 2, than they will put in just enough effort to make them win the match!

WvW populations does absolute nothing to fix this problem!

Haha! Yea, that is very very true. It does seem like everyone on TC is a millioniare in game :P.

Imagine if TC went hardcore on this match, we could take every tower and keep within minutes or even seconds with alpha siege golems running around everywhere xD.

Score update please

Score update please.

Tarnished Coast FTW!

Great video guys!

Score update please?

Iohanna.4863:

DemonCow.5328:

Well, this week makes 6 Tier 3 wins, in a row, for Tarnished Coast, and 3rd place 5 out of the last 6 weeks for Isle of Janthir (They managed to stay out of third by ~2600 points a couple weeks ago).

Also, TC winning this match by about 70,000 points at the moment, and projected to still lose ranking points. IoJ is 23,000 behind 2nd place, and nearly 50,000 behind first, and they’re projected to gain points.

This has to change.

As a statistician, I guarantee you that Isle of Janthir would wreck Tier 3 if they dropped down and TC moved up (conversely, TC will be wrecked in Tier 2).

The Glicko measures performance; the fact that we have several tiers in perpetual match-ups is evidence of its accuracy.

Your argument is making one big assumption. The assumption that the entire playerbase of said #1 server in the tier is loving playing against the same two opponents week after week after week, when in fact a lot of players don’t. So what do said players do? They stop playing since it is boring OR they play just enough to beat the other two servers as if that really matters. Than what happens? That servers rating goes down because there performance wasn’t where it was.

That is a MAJOR flaw in the ratings. So you cannot make an accurate guess based on server ratings in this situation.

@Zorak
You aren’t getting it. ThiOP at aOP at all. This build literally focused on out lasting your opponent and killing them slowly at the same time? How? The ele does some fancy tricks, some cc, etc but that obviously won’t kill you since the damage is completely crap. You as a player notice this weak damage, so what do you do? Heal up and start attacking again.

There is your mistake. Once you heal up, its good game. We keep doing our weak damage over and over, but that damage still adds up. And since you already healed, you get wasted.

D/D ele’s arenot immortal, they just require you to know their weakness in order to kill them. Just like a thief, a warrior, a necro, etc.
And the reason why people are stating necros to kill a d/d ele, isn’t because that is the ONLY class that can kill them. But the fact that a good necro can kitten the face off that d/d ele within seconds. Seriously.

Elite Slasher.3561:

First of all I must say I have great respect for both of our rivalries TC and CD. Too bad TC tricked CD to attack FA because of some incident with doyaks that 2 guilds had something to do with and than took advantage of their prime time to back stab CD and paint the whole map Green. Well it was fun taking it all back later a lot of xp and karma. FA defense had improved a lot on FABL last few nights. We had a lot of fun fighting CD and TC attempting to push.

That’s funny considering CD was pushing against TC during this situation too. TC even owned half of CDBL too.

But if it makes you sleep better at night, keep telling yourself TC couldn’t have done this.

It seems a lot of what people are suggesting wouldn’t fix the original problem of fighting the same few servers for the last few months, despite the fact that your server has consistently been 1st every weeek!

Suggestions such as: Balance the WvW population. Ok, so it makes the match more even. This may flip some server rankings around now, but when the rankings settle again down the road we will be stuck with the same exact problem! Why? A server such as TC could be stuck in this zone, where they don’t belong in tier 3 but yet their rating doesn’t increase enough to tier 2, so the winning server just continues to crush the other two servers, week after week. Btw, not saying this is TC’s situation, just an example.

Suggestion: Merge EU and NA servers together. Again, this would create a more balanced match since all three servers should have 24/7 coverage than. The server rankings willl initially get shuffled but it will settle down and once again back to where we are now.

I am liking the whole, you win = more points, you lose = lose points. The amount of points gained/lost are based on the performance of the match. This will allow servers such as TC move up to tier 2, and IoJ move down to tier 3. IoJ may demolished tier 3 and TC may get crushed in tier 2, but guess what that did? Boosted IoJ’s points high, which may surpass 2nd place tier 2, which could potentially boost IoJ’s morale causing the new 3rd place server to lose points and TC can eventually move back up to tier 2 and that 3rd place server goes down. Same thing can happen in reverse too.

Oh no, that means we are closer to tier 2. We can’t move to tier 2 until after the Wintersday event!

Score update.

Such a great night….