Guild Wars 2

It’s close enough to build a balista or arrow cart that can prevent an opposing team from using that campsite without worry of getting hit at all.

That sounds a bit too close.

The spawn point wall extends way too far out into the southwest camp.

This shouldn’t even be possible in the following video. I honestly didn’t realize this spot existed until this match this week. Never seen it used so much in one day lol.

Yes, there should be an invulnerable spot, but not this close to the camp. Watch how close we are to the actual supply camp.

How “smart” are these bots exactly? What are they doing? Just killing random mobs or actual players? Protecting doylaks?

Just curious because if a person really thinks there bots would do a better job than an actual human body than that’s just sad.

@Sinos
No problem. I am glad we are on the same page now.

@Sinos
That may be true for WoW, and I could see why they would want to write a log file to a clients computer.

But here is what you don’t understand, Anet doesn’t HAVE to write a log PERIOD! The statistics can be stored in memory and displayed to the user, once the user closes that dialog box, it will get disposed from memory.

Now, since Anet likes to log everything. They could also log the file on there server with the rest of the log files, not on the client, and again read the statistics via memory.

You’re acting like the only option to display such statistics is writing a log file that contains everyones statistics. And that isn’t true at all.

Now, could they write a log file containing only said users statistics, absolutely. I could see why a player would want to keep a log of his statistics.

I work in IT, I develop software for banks around the United States. By law, we have to log EVERYTHING for auditors. So yes, I know a little bit about logging, mmk.

Also, if they are reading statistics such as this from a log file than they really need to research some potential performance enhancements. Parsing through a log file is slow as hell compared to reaching for it through memory. It would be a very, VERY inefficient way of writing data to the screen.

SiNoS.2147:

DivineBeing.2086:

SiNoS.2147:

If theres a log file being put out from the server its possible to make a program that not only grabs your’s but anyone elses around you. So even if its ment to only be for you simple fact of the matter is any log file can be parsed and abused.

Anet is nortoriously known for their extensive logging, so I wouldn’t be surprised if this information isn’t already readily available. They log everything! So even if it wasn’t explicitly listed out, it could easily be parsed just the same through keywords.

Sorry, but that argument is very invalid. Especially considering your average player will not have the knowledge to gain access to the folder structure on the hosting server.

They have flat admitted there is logs. Thats not what i was pointing out. The fact is those logs are not being sent out to clients as such you would have to hack the servers to gain access to it. Could that be done. Possibly. Thing is they would have to release the logs to client side before you could parse them. Also you wouldent have to have the knowledge of how to access the files needed. One person writes the program then releases it to the public. It happens in every game that has client logging, and it is abused in every game i’ve seen it in. So infact your argument is very invalid.

HAHA! You’re expecting the entire community, or even majority of the community to use a third party program that could very well get them prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law due to unauthorized access to a production system where said user could get more information than just DPS stastitics? You’re a joke man.

And you also are stating the a company like Anet would write a log out to the clients computer for some oddly random reason (which means there is NO reason) in order to display DPS statistics to the client computer?

Are you seriously even reading what you post or just trying to sound smart? Have you ever worked in IT? My gosh lol….

SiNoS.2147:

If theres a log file being put out from the server its possible to make a program that not only grabs your’s but anyone elses around you. So even if its ment to only be for you simple fact of the matter is any log file can be parsed and abused.

Anet is nortoriously known for their extensive logging, so I wouldn’t be surprised if this information isn’t already readily available. They log everything! So even if it wasn’t explicitly listed out, it could easily be parsed just the same through keywords.

Sorry, but that argument is very invalid. Especially considering your average player will not have the knowledge to gain access to the folder structure on the hosting server.

Sabin.4590:

I dont care about what others do, i want my feedback, i want to know what kind of attacks killed me, i want to know my interrupts , i want to know how much damage i took and ofc i want to know how much damage i did, so i can compare different builds to see what is more effective for my party.
I dont care about other people numbers, just give mine.

Ladies and gentleman, here is our happy medium.

Great idea Sabin! I honestly didn’t even think about that xD. I was too busy constantly pointing people to my posts that they fail to read and you can tell because they always state “err, but kitten I don’t dps, I give boons, your meter wouldn’t provide that kitten #8221;, when I clearly stated it did in two (maybe three) posts now.

But I am fully on board when this idea of only providing your stats!

@SinoS
Oh my gosh :/. How can people abuse a meter that ONLY provides your stats (not everyone elses)

The only valid argument against Sabin’s idea would be players might potentially still do stupid things in order to gain more DPS on their scoreboard at the end. Even that argument is now shaky considering what is said person really fighting for? Nothing. Why? Because at the end of the run, nobody will see if he scored 100k dps or 10k dps. So fact is, most players won’t even care.

PEOPLE START READING ALL POSTS IN THIS THREAD BEFORE YOU SPEW NON SENSE, IT’S ONLY TWO PAGES. COME ON :/

Kashien.6278:

I personally prefer people I can have fun with. Regardless of how fast you complete the dungeon, or how efficient you are.

And a meter wouldn’t stop you from doing this.

Maybe majority of BG players are college aged and are in the same boat as me?

Midterms just ended a few weeks ago (October). Finals are in December. Consistently throughout my four year college experience, papers and other big projects are due between Midterms and Finals so the students have time to prepare for their finals.

As of this moment, the next time I will even get to play again isn’t this weekend, not next weekend, but the weekend after that (weekend of Thanksgiving and Black Friday).

See you guys on the battlefield then!

Dead.7385:

All good, don’t take it as if I am jumping on ya I just wanted to point out that there is a ton of stuff to “gauge” (some useful and some….not so). Trust me I am on the edge on this, I would REALLY like to know what I can do, but would rather not the game have: “What’s your gearscore?”. Dangerous ground there. =(

I understand. It just feels like people are quoting me stating, “you are missing X and Y so it’s completely flawed it thus sucks”. Rather than providing solutions they are just providing problems.

Be the solution, not the problem!

It would be awesome if the responses were more like “and if we took into account X by doing such and such that would help with Y”. Just seems like it’s more “you are missing X! Bet you didn’t think about that huh!?” Lol.

But no, I definitely hear you about dangerous grounds. As much as I am for this idea, I can definitely see the other side of the fence. And I am not stating the other side of the fence is stupid by this next comment btw.

I get the whole “stupid people tend to ignore certain states and favor others thus giving a bias opinion, and sadly there are a lot of stupid people”. I understand that. But think about it this way, if they seriously believe that just because I didn’t provide a whole lot of DPS but I provided a lot of support boons to my teammates and they still think you’re useless, do you REALLY want to party with those people anyway? I mean really.

Good players aren’t stupid. A good player will know by looking at the stats on the meter what that said player was really contributing and will make a judgement call based on that. Those are the players you really want to be playing with anyhow.

Dead.7385:

DivineBeing.2086:

- Overall Damage
- Overall Condition
- Overall Heal
- Number of Knockbacks Dealt
- Number of Dodgerolls
- Number of Deaths
- Number of Revives

Trimmed it down a bit to make post shorter, but what you listed is still true to the post (Dmg/Condition/Heal/knockback/dodge/death/revive).

Still missed some: Where is my axe warriors stacks of venerability listed in there? Or how about roots/chill/snare? How about cures? Combo fields?

Edit: Still I would like some way to see how much DPS I can put out, mainly for curiosity/min-max sake. But even if you made it so only you could see those stats…well we all know what that turned out to be: Gearscore.

DivineBeing.2086:

@phooka
You are right that it gives players a set of numbers to strive for. “Oh, last time I dealt a total of 32k damage, let’s strive for 40k!” That said obvious DPS built player will now strive to work harder.

If you’re running to revive a player than that statistic is shown via the meter. It will also show the statistic of said downed player on the meter. Which would look bad? More down states or more revives. Think about it. More revives on the meter but less dps = still a good player.

Also, you state running over to help another player kill a mob = that still qualifies for overall DPS dealt. No big deal about that. You act like that 5 second walk to another play will add up to a huge 20k DPS drop on the meter. No. And if you want, we can even add another statistic which would be called Overall Assists.

And for the whole trait lines improving the DPS of others? Make another meter or two such a Number of Boons Given to Teammates or Extra Damage Given To Teammates, or Extra Damage Negated To Teammates. These can be calculated by keeping a talley behind the scenes that adds up all the damage while said boon is on them (or damage taken) and work the equation backwards to find what their damage would be during said time minus what the damage they id. In order to keep performance up, do said calculations at the end of the run too. The extra damage or extra damage negated is shown on the scoreboard who gave said X stacks of boon.

My list isn’t a finite one. It can be changed. I was merely just throwing some ideas out there. I am not a designer for this game, just a player. It is not my job to cover all the holes the meter I present has.

Not yelling at you in any way Dead. Just clarifying for future posts regarding my list.

@phooka
You are right that it gives players a set of numbers to strive for. “Oh, last time I dealt a total of 32k damage, let’s strive for 40k!” That said obvious DPS built player will now strive to work harder.

If you’re running to revive a player than that statistic is shown via the meter. It will also show the statistic of said downed player on the meter. Which would look bad? More down states or more revives. Think about it. More revives on the meter but less dps = still a good player.

Also, you state running over to help another player kill a mob = that still qualifies for overall DPS dealt. No big deal about that. You act like that 5 second walk to another play will add up to a huge 20k DPS drop on the meter. No. And if you want, we can even add another statistic which would be called Overall Assists.

And for the whole trait lines improving the DPS of others? Make another meter or two such a Number of Boons Given to Teammates or Extra Damage Given To Teammates, or Extra Damage Negated To Teammates. These can be calculated by keeping a talley behind the scenes that adds up all the damage while said boon is on them (or damage taken) and work the equation backwards to find what their damage would be during said time minus what the damage they id. In order to keep performance up, do said calculations at the end of the run too. The extra damage or extra damage negated is shown on the scoreboard who gave said X stacks of boon.

Robert Hrouda.1327:

A lot of abilities are condition based. I personally play a ton of ranger shortbow, which has an auto-attack that is glorious (even after the nerf). My other skills are very situational on the short bow: A cripple to slow down a chaser, a poison spread to lower healing over multiple enemies, a daze, and a dodge/swiftness. There no sense in blowing all those things, and just through smart positioning and auto-attacking, I can put out bunches of condi-DPS.

I don’t imagine we’ll implement something that allows you to observe another player’s “work-rate” because with all the different ways to make and play a character, it would be difficult to measure and quantify someone’s input in a factual way. It’s not about the numbers you make as an individual, but the team-play and coordination as a group.

Robert, I hate to disagree with people but…well I disagree.

If you are DPSing just as well with any class with your condition damage via auto-attack than there should be no problem to measure the amount of damage each person has done in the entire run since you are DPSing still.

And to help make it more balance since you state that most of your skills are situational, than make a couple catagories:

- Overall Damage Dealt
- Overall Condition Damage Dealt
- Overall Damage Taken
- Overall Condition Damage Taken
- Overall Heal Amount Dealt
- Overall Heal Amount Received
- Number of Knockbacks Dealt
- Number of Knockdowns Dealt
- Number of Dodgerolls
- Number of Deaths
- Number of Revives Dealt
- Number of Revives Received

That should pretty much accurately describe who did what and how much that said person contributed throughout the dungeon run.

Could we get a screenshot of the map along with the score update please?

Screenshots, not text.

Thanks.

Arg! I just spent 40g building a clerics set socketed with divinity runes!

Now, people are saying boon duration is far superior than divinity runes for this build?

Fiddle sticks guys….fiddle sticks! Lol.

If they nerf elementalist without a measureable buff to compensate us than I can see a HUGE fall in the number of players playing as an elementalist. It just wouldn’t be worth the amount of effort to be subpar to all classes than.

I for one would probably roll a mesmer so I could be useful again by portal bombing.

Mesmer and Elementalist in my opinion.

Mesmer = king of team support with their portals.

Elementalist = AOE FTW if 2h Staff. If D/D or S/D than you can roll 2v1 majority of the times.

wacko.7543:

actually, Blackgate needs less PvE carebear guilds.
we lost 3 oceanic guilds before the 7 day transfer took affect.
we shouldn’t be tier 1, maybe not even T2.
We have some good WvW groups, but we don’t have the numbers anymore… the
free transfers took care of that.

we have maybe 1/3 of the WvW population that the other two servers have.

This is the truth by far. I am really tempted to fraps how bare our WvW population really is. I have a feeling everyone thinks we are just making up excuses as to why we’re losing :/.

Excellent point! That’s why I stated what I saw rather than the actual.

When I log in, 5PM (US Central) during weekdays, its about a 20 man zerg with 1 maybe 2 commanders with their flag up on the SBI BL (what I played all last week).

Hey everyone,
I am trying to get an idea of the current WvW server populations for comparison sakes. BG’s WvW population has fallen substantially and was curious what tier we will end up in.

The entire last week, the biggest zerg we had going was a 20 person zerg.

Now, I am curious what other servers zerg size on average CURRENTLY, not what it was but how it is now. How many zergs you have running around at once on average?

This isn’t a thread to discuss ANYTHING but what I have asked. If you do, you will be ignored, so save your breath.

The more server stats, the better.

Thanks!

I really hope BG goes down a tier until we get our man numbers back up. I logged in last night to just run around in our huge 10 man zerg. XD

Wow, 20 minute wait times? It wasn’t even that long when this weeks match begun for BG xD. Time to jump on and go play for for 30 minutes for The Walking Dead new episode airs in 40 minutes! That’s a positive spin off right!?

Just to be clear. I am not stating that BG is getting 2v1 nor do I even care really, because if that were true than it will only make us that much stronger.

Now, I am stating that we are BY FAR out manned in ALL BL’s. There have been several credible sources that state there have been guilds that left BG in the dust this week. And yes, the reason was because there is absolutely no reason for them to fight if in the end we will be called hackers, or stated we suck if we lose.

I am not stating I am not having fun in WvW. Truth is, I am having an absolute blast as it is always fun and challenging for me to go 4v1, really keeps you on your toes. Just stating you’re not fighting the same Blackgate last week. Join our server and you’ll see our HUGE single 20 person zerg, dead serious btw, that’s about how big our biggest zerg is now.

Yes, I read the comment “every server isn’t the same server as they once were”. Sure, I could believe that. But is that relevant right now? No. The ration between SBI and JQ to BG is like 10:1.

Does this mean I am whining about this? Not at all, I am still having a blast. It’s just sad to see some of my guildies stating they have been playing for 24 or 30 hours straight on the SBI BL in order to maintain our places. So just because we are losing doesn’t mean “you have more skilled players”. It’s the fact we are just out manned to the point where it has a big impact.

Hopefully we can recruit some WvW guilds to help fill the huge empty spots in our server.

Good luck to everyone.

Distaste.4801:

Why do SBCry and JQQ players keep forgetting what they did? BG did dominate for the first few days, but the constant crying took its toll. “BG are all hackers”, “Hackgate”, and “they are using an exploitative tactics!”. Players from your servers filled the forums with these comments, getting many a thread closed, and at the very same time where given advantages by their own hackers/exploiters.

It is incredibly demoralizing to know that if you win “you’ve only won because of hacks” according to other servers because they continually whined about how your server hacks even though theirs does as well. A lot of people quit doing WvW at that point because what’s the point if you’re known as a hacker. Some guilds flat out transferred. Since from Tuesday->Friday BG was lucky to have a queue for any map.

BG took a big player hit because of the hackers and forum crying. While I hope it doesn’t happen, I think JQ and SBI will reap what they sow. Hackers will be spotted on their servers and the same will fate will befall them. I believe JQ has already been caught with the latest exploited keep garrison take, oh I’m sorry how is it trying to be played off? A phantom mesmer that stayed inside the garrison for 4+ hours?

As for 2v1, while I don’t think it’s a full on server alliance there are definite cases of SBI/JQ ignoring JQ/SBI or even helping them when there is no logical reason for it. It’s a legit tactic however it is really poor sportsmanship at this point.

Nobody seems to listen. SBI and JQ just think, well BG is losing on the scoreboards, they suck without hacks kitten “What happened BEASTgate? Too much talk?”

The fact is THERE IS NOBODY PLAYING WVW IN BLACKGATE! Read what I quoted above AND my message on page 2!

You’re NOT fighting what Blackgate was last week or the week before! You’re fighting a server who had the MAJORITY of it’s players abandon ship due to your whining, when in fact ALL three servers had their fair share of hackers.

So are we expecting to reach #1, I highly doubt it, we just don’t have the numbers anymore. The biggest and ONLY zerg I saw last night was a 20 man group. The entire time we had an out manned buff.

Practically all of our wvw guilds that left the server or quit wvw is due to the fact they know this fact:

- we win = we are hackers.
- we lose = we just suck.

What is the point?

I am pretty sure everyone on Blackgate knows the situation so we had some guilds leave.

If we win = we are hackers.
If we lose = we suck.

Either way, the whole BG hacking whine (even though all three servers were guilty of it) pretty much hurt us. A lot of us are still sticking around and holding strong though. It’s just sad to see the people who whined and cried, threw a trantum by not playing with histoys err I mean game anymore is now getting there way. And to top it off, they think they’re fighting what BG was composed of prior to the whine.

Oh well, good luck everyone.

@Paranoid
You seem to understand too.

@jojojoon
We aren’t denying it happened at all. I am just acknowledging that it is happening in favor of ALL servers. Is it wrong? Of course. But it is happening to all the servers (I know at least one instance of an orb hacking favoring SBI or JQ during the weekend). Is it a big deal? Sure. But it isn’t stopping me from playing in wvw. Why? Because I suck it up. Oh, boo hoo, BG’s orb was hacked and now belongs to SBI. Deal with it and move on.

Does that mean I don’t want ANet to ban these hackers? Not at all, by all means please ban these hackers and patch these holes.

I am just not going to sit here and cry about someone taking my ice cream away, err I mean orb. The very same reason why a little kid pulls another kids hair, to get a reaction. By not playing, you aren’t hurting the hacker at all. They are laughing as they place the orb on a new altar even more than. Report the hacker, and move on.

@Geko
HAHA! Now, at least someone else is getting it! Lol. I knew I couldn’t be the only one.

BG magically gets orbs instantly in short amount of time, people scream in protest against us hackers.

Other servers do the same thing and QUOTED BY A MEMBER OF THAT SERVER, “SBI plays by the rules, if we get it, we get it as intended”.

You do not know how much I am laughing right now out of that irony! It is s great to see your point really driven home xD.

Have fun guys and Happy Halloween tomorrow lol.

Oh, BG is hacking again. Ban them all! /rollseyes

I am sure a lot of people from Blackgate would knock off the nicknames if everyone would knockoff the whole “blackgate is exploiting/hacking to win”. When in reality ALL THREE servers are using them! That is exactly why you guys are being thrown that nickname is because of the whining. Blackgate isn’t whining about our orbs getting hacked, turtle strategies used against us, and portal bombing. We deal with it. So suck it up and man up, and I gurantee those nicknames will go away.

@kidbs
You know that “potential points” means jack crap right? Lol. We haven’t been #1 in potential points for majority of the match, and I seriously mean majority. It’s not our strategy and that is all I will say, too much more and you guys will start improving by copying us.

Good luck.

Oh, and I hate to bring up the whole orb hacking again but you do realize orb’s making such a miniscule difference that it almost doesn’t even matter. Don’t believe me? Take any stat and see how much 5% of it is, that’s essentially the bonus you get from an orb. Whoopdy-do! So to say that is what is causing you to lose a match is just down right hilarious xD.

@Jorgamund
Wow man, that totally went over your head. The point is, you have NO proof of anything. We have NO proof of anything. Read that again, YOU AND I have NO proof of what the other side is dealing with. What does that mean? Your word against mine which nobody wins.

Also, you don’t think your server clears the map while our server is under manned? Again, the point is, it is equal playing field. BG has instant queues in ALL battlefields which means we don’t have a whole lot of men out there either.

Our server is the only one using turtle and orb hacks/exploits? Wrong again, I have witnessed JQ and SBI both doing it just this weekend (I haven’t even logged in today).

Now, keep replying to me completely taking my words out of context and ignoring the fact that ALL sides of the server are playing the same game with the same tactics. SBI and JQ are just losing at it. So what happens? You guys jump on the forums and cry about how BG is the ONLY server doing it. So you “boycott” (aka annoyed about the challenge so you just avoid it altogether) the wvw match, however it seems like all servers have about the same number of players, granted maybe not all at the same time, but yes averagely it evens out
(baseless fact btw, you got proof otherwise? Didn’t think so, does that mean you can get proof? Nope. Neither can I)

Hopefully I connected the dots enough. But if you still haven’t got it yet, I bolded the important part.

Jorgamund.7803:

You didn’t take it because your commander is awesome. You took the map because JQ (and SBI from what I can tell) had stopped playing.

I was online Sunday morning, and we had the Outmanned buff in multiple battlegrounds. People were shifting BL trying to get a group together, so the buff “moved” to different a BL from time to time, but every time I checked we had it in at least one, sometimes 3. It lasted straight through until prime time, at which point we weren’t Outmanned but we still had instant queues.

JQ was a high pop server 2 minutes after the head start launched, and a full server within an hour. It’s been full ever since, with long WvW queues from the start. But Friday through today was the only time on JQ that the Lion’s Arch queue was hours long and the WvW queues were instant. Even EB had instant queues, which never happens even around 4 AM on weeknights.

This is not entirely due to the BG/SBI/JQ matchup; we started losing people and getting instant queues since Wednesday. But BG’s behavior on Friday and Saturday made even us remaining hardcore WvW players leave the fight in disgust.

Zerging in mass form taking over random crap cause you out number your opponent is NOT a strategy!

Ah, so you agree with me, what BG is doing is not actually a superior “strategy”? Glad to find some common ground.

My point is, get some good commanders, build a lot of trust, and use that charisma to lead the group to victory.

We already have good commanders. These are the guys that fought HoD to a standstill during their reigning days, who crushed the other servers to get to the #1 slot, and who lead the entire battleground without even having a commander pin. They’re the guys who earned that 100 gold by showing up for weeks on end, taking charge when others logged off, paying for upgrades out of their own pocket, and getting donations 5-10 silver at a time from the people who fought with them.

For the most part, these commanders are sitting this match out.

I can’t blame them. I lead a small group myself, and I can not justify playing against the crap that BG is doing, especially with the invisible player bug. I can not be a responsible leader by tell my players to jump in to WvW for some fun, when I know they won’t have fun this week, and nothing will be accomplished in exchange for their time and their silver.

That’s not to say the place is deserted. I give huge respect to Agress of FIRE, who apparently never sleeps and runs multiple battlegrounds when necessary; and to the guys in ESOL, who run multiple commanders with great squad tactics… even though JQ hasn’t provided them with the raw manpower to defend any keeps for 3 days. And SBI shows up from time to time, even though 1/2 their players I’ve seen since Friday had the Outmanned buff.

TL;DR: you are not fighting JQ this week. Your commanders are not winning glorious battles through strategy and charisma. You are fighting an empty suit on a broken battleground using questionable tactics.

Yea, BG isn’t trying too hard either /strokes kitten /rollseyes. Sorry, I don’t believe a word you speak, unless they all get butt hurt from actually having a challenge from a newcomer, which than I could see that.

Btw, the Halloween event has sucked up majority of our players too, especially commanders :/.

And you state we really aren’t fighting JQ and pretty much all of JQ has stopped playing. Points to screenshot, really looks like your server “isn’t really playing” even though they own majority of the maps.

You could easily state, “yea, wait until all of JQ fight”. I could very well state the same, “wait until all of BG fight”.

It’s all baseless facts with no data to back up anything. WE have no wait times! Lions Arch has a longer queue than wvwvw! We get outmanned buffs at times too. So try not to use those excuses, mmmk.

Again, I stated earlier in the thread and I will state it again.

All servers have an orb hacker. I played all weekend on the SBI field the entire time. Guess what? Orb hacker helped JQ and SBI once each! Not one time was it in our favor this weekend on the SBI field!

Guess what else I saw? Turtling and portal bombing from all sides! Here is a hit RTL + Updraft = watch that turtle disperse. Now use your aoes at once! That is all I am telling you. Figure out your own strategies and counters.

Ladies and gentlemen, the battefield is equal. So man up and deal with it like us.

Btw, the reason I have found why BG is so good is because of our commanders! No joke, when they login, the whole server gets coordinated instantly. And I am talking coordinated. Sunday morning, commander Chhoco logged in. We took the ENTIRE map! We owned everything by 1PMish. Commanders logged off for Halloween event, map goes back to being pretty much even after a three to four hours.

My point is, get some good commanders, build a lot of trust, and use that charisma to lead the group to victory. And most importantly, USE STRATEGIES! Zerging in mass form taking over random crap cause you out number your opponent is NOT a strategy! BG has ZERO wait times in all their battlefields but yet we are on top. We play well together!

Haha! All I am reading is a bunch of butt hurt people that don’t like losing.

You think Blackgate is the only one turtling? You think Blackgate hasn’t had their orb “magically” disappear? You think Blackgate is the only one portal bombing? What a joke lol. I have played in WvWvW ALL weekend! I saw my fair number of those tactics used by ALL three servers too.

So get off your high horses and realize that its fair game since everyone seems to be using it. Is it right? I will leave that up to Anet to decide. Loss of respect? Only because a fresh new server full of fresh transfers from a lot of your precious HoD and JQ is now ranking on top the charts.

Ok, I have to agree walking all the way to the top of the map is a little tedious, but there is a point. A valid point at that.

When you die, that is less people on the battlefield, less people on the battlefield means your enemy has an advantage, that advantage pushes your force back or demolishes them completely. Each kill raises that chance.

Now, if the enemy is attacking you near your home base which means your respawn point is extremely close than this essentially helps your team. Think about it. In this situation, your server is already losing, and your enemy is winning. Well, since the enemy has pushed you back to your respawn point than that means they are FAR from theres! You die = you go right back into action rather quickly. They die = far distance to travel which means they have to either A. Regroup up or B. Come at you one by one and die one by one. This gives your team an advantage.

The distance to travel and the amount of time to travel is intentional. It helps keep balance on the playing field.

EDIT: Forgot to mention. This also reduces the whole kamakazi style of game play. A player has to actually think, “hmm, should I jump into that huge zerg?”. Rather than jump, attack, die, warp back, rinse and repeat. The long distance traveled will annoy this players play style rather quickly, and you will be left with a group of individuals who focus on tactics rather than suicidal bomber runs.

I have to agree with Daharahj.

My build that I came up with (yes, I came up with considering I took the time to experiment and find what suits me) is a bit of a glass cannon but I absolutely love it. 0/0/10/30/30, S/D, power/precision/crit damage w/ toughness/healing power runes in them.

The only class that I face trouble with is Necro. Why? My low base health. All the necro has to do is throw bleed on me, fear, and keep ccing until my health drains.

Although, I did have trouble killing this guardian 1v1 in wvwvw today. He couldn’t kill me either though, so it was pretty much a stalemate until a teammate came along.

Hey,
I am a level 80 experienced elementalist looking for a well organized and skilled WvWvW guild.

I don’t mind other aspects of the guild such as PvE or sPvP since I will participate in those too. But I am looking more of a guild that is centered around WvWvW.

Um, just going to say this whole portal bombing is being used by all sides in T1. I played in wvwvw today on the Blackgate server for around 5 hours straight. So I can definitely confirm it’s not just Blackgate using the tactic.

I didn’t see any orb hacking btw.

I don’t think so, but I have never seen it bugged before. I have been running CoF for the past week too.

I did story mode for CoF last night and I must say it does take a chunk of time with little reward. It took about an hour and a half at least.

Everything was pretty easy and simple, and that is coming from a random PUG party that have never done it before and never youtubed it.

The only hard part was I think the west side thing you had to destroy. The boss guarding it does a kill whirlwind along with two floating swords (that can’t be killed or cc’d btw).

Other than that, it was just getting threw it really. Finally boss is more about tactics than DPS since you hurt him by throwing rocks at him.

Anyways, good luck man.

This picture is usually my forum avatar. I thought it was most appropriate in this thread lol.
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Giles.6587:

I find this hilarious because this is exactly what I do.
See random ranger off in the distance and lightning ball/blink my way up there in .5 sec, nuke down the mob in some crazy Fkey spamming combo and lightning ball away as fast as I came in.

This exactly! I do this all the time lol. And I even do it for the OP’s exact questioning. It makes me feel….well Divine (points to my name).

Maybe it is the intrinsic masquerade armor.

What do these world events do exactly? And how do I participate in them?

They don’t show up anywhere on the map, just only show up at the top right corner with no description on what there is to be done really. But if you put your cursor over it, it states World Event.

Anyone have any information on them?

@Faye
We aren’t saying lower level players aren’t competent at all or can’t be better than level 80. Reread our post. We are merely stating that the higher level you are the more likely you will know your class (MORE LIKELY, MORE LIKELY, and again for even more emphasis MORE LIKELY).

Yes, it is very selfish. Do I condone in it? Not really. If a party member wants only level 70s+ than yes I will start shouting for that, other than that I don’t care myself. Just last night I did AC path 1 with zero level 80’s in the party. I, myself, am I only level 72 (I was the highest in the party). And we blazed through the dungeon with no problems.

So again, yes it is very possible that you can do it with lower level players. But you have to admit it is generally true (GENERALLY meaning NOT ALWAYS) the higher level the player, the more he knows his class, the better the stats on his gear (stats on gear doesn’t get scaled, his character stats yes), and the more useful he is to the team. Why? Because a level 80 has been playing his class in most likely (again there is that most likely word) in harder areas where it takes a lot more skill to survive and kill than a level 30 to 40 area. I know it was definitely true with me.

I started out on my elementalist using one attunement during an entire fight! I quickly realized that in order to be affective with an elementalist you gotta do the dance every 1-3 seconds. Than I realized how to properly setup my traits so I don’t die in 2 hits. I began realizing which weapon set I am most comfortable with. I got even more comfortable with that weapon set by knowing when to use what skills. I began to read up more on combo finishers and combo blasters and incorporating them into different rotations. I started looking into more utility skills now. And finally, I learned that you can’t play an entire dungeon with the same utility skill set up. Sometimes you gotta switch them out during a run for different encounters.

All of the above, learned through experience by progressing my character through levels that required me to try harder and use my class more effectively in order to complete a map.

@Coshocton
Very well put. I was waiting to get home and post the same reply.

Yes, you can complete the dungeon with lower levels. But the extra stats on level 80 gears plus the fact that they got to level 80 so they should (hence the should part and most likely btw) will know their class better than a fresh level 35 wanting to run AC exp. Your chance of blazing through the dungeon with little to no problems is higher when you don’t have low levels tagging along.

ToadOfTruth.7325:

I actually found a great way to deal with dungeons, at least for me. I just don’t do them.

Problem solved for me.

Moving on……

Interesting considering I have been doing nothing but dungeons for the last month! Lol! I log in, I shout LFG, I clear the three paths, I go back to my real life responsibilities.

miya.5160:

BrunoBRS.5178:

i just think that some people are exaggerating by making it sound like dungeons murdered their babies and that not a single soul likes them. i have my criticisms towards dungeons, but they’re pretty solid as a whole. on all games, there will always be parts you’ve enjoyed more and parts you’ve enjoyed less, sometimes parts you haven’t enjoyed at all.

picking another game with big focus on dungeons, zelda has plenty of them, and some you may like, some you may not, but you shouldn’t act like all of them are bad because a few of them were kinda boring.

You are assuming that others agree with you that dungeons are pretty solid as a whole. Some people actually do feel like all the dungeons are not very good, at least compared to other parts of the game or other games.

There are a couple of good dungeons, but for the most part, the rest are uninspired. They lack the polish of the other features you find in Guild Wars 2. It feels like a few of them were designed very well, and the rest were thrown together. Monsters here. Boss there. Give boss X ability. Done. Oh, and throw in some silly nonsense about one of the bosses is about to end the world with some devious plan after the fact.

I highly recommend Guild Wars 2 for most everything but the dungeons. For dungeons and rewards, I am turning to other games. That is my honest opinion. Oh, and their balancing things for PvP at the expense of PvE balance bothers me a bit, but that can be put on the back burner due to the fact that I am done with PvE anyway.

And you’re assuming everyone agrees that the dungeons are horrible.

Do you see his point now? It has always been true that people are more likely to criticize than to praise. That is just how it is. So what you see on the forums doesn’t necessarily correlate to what is believed by the whole.

Exactly what Sharkinu stated. If they made Legendary items more powerful than exotics this would completely change the dynamics of the game. They didn’t want you to HAVE to grind for your gear like in other games. Note the keyword that is in all caps (go figure) is HAVE to grind for it.

Keeping the Legendary stats the same as exotics (exotics being gear even casual players can earn) keeps the playing field equal in terms of availability and DPS. Which means this game boils down to build and skill, rather than most MMORPG’s that include gear into that equation (or sometimes is the whole equation).

This helps everyone who is playing be capable of being equal in terms of gear than everyone else. This ensures that person A who works full time, goes to school full time, and is a single father (whoa that’s me lol) can still be on equal playing fields as say player B who has no job, doesn’t go to school, and sololy plays video games 23/6.