Guild Wars 2

SkyShroud.2865:

Decline…

1. Population decline. Is gw2 having the same or even more population compared to day 1? Nope, of course not. People complain about empty servers when these servers used to be so filled during day 1. This reason alone answered everything you need to know about WvW decline and it is not just WvW declining. The game itself is declining.

2. Why is population declining? This have been discussed over and over again, resulting in nothing conclusive. There are just way too many reasons and factors.

This.

WvW decline because the entire GW2 population is declining.

Anet keeps adding throw away content rather than actual permanent content.

Anet isn’t adding ANYTHING at all to WvW and just expects the population to grow.

Anet needs to realize they have THREE populations here: PvE, WvW, PvP. Do NOT assume PvE —> WvW/PvP. That is NOT how it works.

Sobat.8650:

I think it was mentioned that you need to spend 10 supply after each refund to be eligible for the next refund in one of the livestreams

Edit: nvm http://youtu.be/XXC3f77HZ7s?t=28m says that it checks at the “end” so probably means when you spend all supply

Yea, definitely cannot be when you spend at least 10 supply. I have received supply more than one time from the same build site.

Yea, I cannot imagine there being a ICD.

I have supply and build mastery and have gotten supply back at least three times in a row plenty of times. I don’t have build mastery maxex but I spend 8 supply per hit, which is enough since I can only carry 15.

Wow, his playstyle is extremely different.

However, in reality it is quite brilliant. His movements literally mimic his clones so well it would be kitten hard to distinguish which one is not a clone in a 1v1.

BG and SoR.

SoR’s forum warriors were so bad most players just stopped reading the forums. I think that is where most of BG’s bad propaganda originated.

FrouFrou.4958:

I wonder if the legendary defenders get to see a therapist during the small downtime while the match up resets. They have seen so many suiciders end their lives, day after day. Must be one of the toughest jobs in all Tyria.

Haha, +1 good sir.

Alright, so it looks like the general consensus is for me to switch to 30/30/0/0/10 using D/F for majority of my fights and 2h staff with lava faunt situationally?

If anyone recommends otherwise let me know.

I appreciate everyones input btw. Thanks everyone!

Dalanor.5387:

Wait a few days until she does some update with builds, but her videos are great.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6tPsYH9nvA

Great video!

Thanks everyone for the suggestions. Looks like I am switching to d/f then. I already have a legendary dagger.

Now, any good builds you guys recommend?

Hey pro runners,
I have recently retraited and regeared my ele for PvE. Right now it is full zerker with 1x ascended ring/amulet. The spec was 30/30/10/0/0 s/f using LH.

Problems:
- There are just certain boss fights that I feel I cannot use the LH, but instead have to use a 2h staff (which is really sub par in damage output). Why? Some bosses just look at me and I OTK.

Troubled Bosses:
- Collosal boss (you hit the seals with hammer one).
- Light guy that drops the platforms, doesn’t move.
- Maia (sp?) And Horrik fight.
- Mossman.

As you can see that is a pretty substantial list. Are other zerker eles forced to use a 2h staff on these bosses too? Is it just a learning curve? Is it because I am pugging it so no source of heals or other zerkers?

I am really looking to get better at this so any advice or if you’re willing to run with me would be very much appreciated.

Chunky Milk.2130:

“JQ is going to walk freely with no competition. "

As opposed to BG doing the same thing?

If the match actually plays out, JQ has an equal chance of winning a legitimate match. Don’t act like JQ has silver league population. If you believe that, then they got you fooled.

Is it seriously asking too much to actually play the game with the spirit of the tournament in mind?

style.6173:

Because this is a tournament, and that guides actions. Your logic would all be true over the course of a 1 week battle. In this case, it makes much more sense for TC and JQ t o team up. If BG were to win week 3, they would have a very large lead in the league.

Don’t take it personally. Any server that had won the first 2 weeks would be a target.

Again, who is to say JQ and TC don’t team up again? Who is to say this doesn’t happen to other servers? From what I am being told TC doesn’t care about winning 1st place. They are striving for 2nd. So there is literally no reason to not team up with JQ when fighting BG.

It really is destroying the thrill of the tournament. JQ is going to walk freely with no competition. TC will take 2nd because tier 2 can’t beat them, and they are already have their ties formed with JQ.

Server alliances should not happen. Guild alliances? Sure. However, if BG were to go to tier 2 then there is no reason why anyone wants to go to tier 1 to fight the JQ/TC alliance.

Kit.3986:

The system is working as intended, with the weaker servers working together to take out the top server. BG’s getting better, harder fights and more challenges out of it, which I imagine translates as more fun for their core WvWer’s. 2v1 isn’t unfair, the only situation I’d see it as “unfair” is when it’s the top server working with the second top server to shut down the weakest server… but even then, it’s “blagh” but not enough to go make forum posts QQing about the whole thing. Just makes you want to fight back harder.

If BG is as great as they proclaim, then they’ll stick around, grit their teeth, fight through it and not give up, whine, or use unsavory means (spies, siege trolls, etc…). But if when things don’t go BG’s way and the resort is to whine, complain, use unsavory means… well, they simply aren’t that great of a server and don’t deserve that top spot, especially when their stacking is generally better than everyone else’s.

The fights are good, yes.

However, let’s follow this logic. So BG doesn’t give up and continues to be spawn camped in all three BL’s including EB. JQ and TC do not touch each others stuff at all. Example, just on JQ BL today, TC had our home tower while JQ had hills, if BG even came out and tried to wipe TC, TC runs in tower and immediately JQ comes to finish us off. Literally, no chance to hold any tower/keep anywhere.

Btw, map politics (what was happening in week 1) is not the same as organized 2v1. Map politics = BGBL, BG having to fight TC from taking NE tower, so JQ hits NW tower. That is map politics and working as intended. The situation we have now as described above is not map politics, but just plain unsportsmanlike.

Now, who’s to say JQ/TC doesn’t just team up again when BG pulls ahead in any week after this? Is that still fair? Would it still be fair if it was happening to your server? (again map politics is not the same as organized 2v1).

Also, to dispel some nonsense rebuttals on how “you deserved this:”
- Bought guilds for seasons = Bought as in help with transfer costs after they asked to move over? (yes they asked). Should I note how many guilds were “bought” by JQ and TC before seasons begun? Let’s just say they both got WAY more guilds than BG received. That’s a fact. Most of our players were already on BG but came out of their breaks for the season.
- Stacked server? JQ has equal (even more in certain time zones) coverage as BG. TC is really the only server that can complain since their only strong off hour coverage is EU.

Now, are there some bad apples on BG? Yes. Would you like me to name a few bad apples on everyone else’s server?

This organized 2v1 is doing nothing but ruining the season. You are taking a tournament that is suppose to be about who is the number 1 server, and instead turning it into a rigged horse race. Who can form alliances with what servers.

Do you really want to set the precedence going forward to always 2v1 the top server to the point where they cannot even own a tower? Because that is where this is headed. Why would anyone want to be the top server then? Should this season even be taken seriously any more since the matches will no longer be fair?

Why not just play the game as intended? You know, if it’s red it’s dead. Does that mean you shouldn’t focus the stronger server? No, if you’re TC and you see JQ and BG fighting then you should probably hit BG. I am not arguing against that. That’s fair game.

There is a guild I recently joined made specifically for Fractal runs:
http://fractalsofthemind.createaforum.com/

Basically, whisper or send in-game mail to Stalvros.

Good luck!

Altie.4571:

ManaCraft.5630:

I’m curious to know exactly how you would accomplish that. I think a lot of players would be fundamentally unwilling to move from their servers unless you create incentives that are powerful enough to effectively force their hand.

That is the problem we should throw out solutions for. Brain storm!

I’m not sure if I have the solution, but I think it will not be one single thing, but a combination of a lot of things.

My ideas:
Offer rewards for winning the weekly match up. To re-introduce the 2v1 where the top server can never feel safe because the other two will go after it for the top spot. 2nd and 3rd place get no rewards. That would help end the “dominant server” trend where everyone flocks to one place.

Transfer fee’s should be linear down the list of servers. 2,400gems for the top server, reduced according to the server ranking. The last server in the previous week would be 0 gems. That would help take away stigma of moving down to help population balance. And those that want higher level fights would have to pay for them.

Outmanned buff should offer a chance to the smaller server. Current buff gives no incentive to fight. Should give a sizable reward for killing opponents/capturing objectives with the outmanned buff. Such as +5 points for each enemy kill. +10 points for each captured AND defended objective. Increase gold/karma and magic find by 100%. If too many people flock to it, that means that the server won’t be outmanned, if too few are there, at least they are rewarded for their effort.

Reduce the effect of zergs against a well organized defense/attack. Stacking should not be a viable solution to combat 5 people raining down aoe on someone. I know due to server limitations we can’t increase an AoE cap. So let’s approach it from another perspective. Dynamic content scaling…. The engineering exists from PvE, lets re-introduce it for WvW.

if enemy player – friendly player quantity is > X : content scale Y.

What content would we scale? Gates/Walls. Make ti tougher for blobs to get through to reduce zerging and re-introduce divided forces to WvW and strategy.

These are just some of the ideas that I want to put forth. Maybe others have better ones, maybe mine have a bad side I overlooked. But we have to offer solutions rather than just demand a resolution. It is a problem we contribute to.

I know it is easier to shoot people down rather than to make solutions yourself. So sorry.

However, 1st idea: everyone would flock to the top server.
2nd idea: I am going to assume the scaling would work in the opposite case too? 50 defenders but 10 attackers then the walls/gates would have its health decreased?

I would have to agree Mercenary Bane is the most useless.

I am going to have to see more twitch play at release (not beta) before I choose to opt in or not.

Based on what I am seeing right now with 500k players in their beta, their RvR map is WAY TOO BIG. I think one guy on the stream stated it takes about 40 minutes to go from one side to the other. And based on what I saw last night, seems true.

You move at a snails pace which means less action. Why? You die = have fun running back. You attack a keep = enemy has no chance to respond, so have fun pvdooring.

The only way I can see ESO being successful is if there is such a HUGE SUSTAINABLE RvR playerbase that it won’t become some karma train around the map fighting little to nobody.

Ross Biddle.2367:

Say one thing for Sanctum of Rall (and those Rallians that made a name out of it), say out of the three long standing tier 1 servers, BG with its ultra stacked mega blobs, JQ with its long standing tier 1 streak, It’s SoR that people have pointed at, talked about, worried about, named guilds regarding, and had questions about more than the other two combined.

Famous is famous.

I disagree. You can’t even open a WvW thread without someone, who knows nothing about BG, bad mouthing BG.

Scrap WvW altogether and tweak EoTM.

What you guys are failing to realize is even if you’re targetting “just a TS” it is hitting a actual server.

Its not 1x TS = 1x domain. Its 1x TS tied to 100s of other servers tied to that specific domain. So if you DDOS a TS, you are not just affecting that TS. You are essentially affecting everything tied to that domain which means 100s of other customers that probably do not even care to know what TS even is.

A simple DDOS is never harmless. You are hurting much more than your intended target and depending upon the country of origin could face huge prosecution.

Do not do it.

urieldhynne.2743:

DivineBeing.2086:

PvE is the solution though.

Don’t believe me? Look at the server populations, majority of the servers are high, very high, or full for NA. If that entire population were to contribute to WvW there would be no “coverage problem.”

PVE player is the first players who left the game when new game with new content is release. I think is like that PVE=coop vs ai/single player game. PVP=team based vs game.

Server population is a lie. A lot of servers are full of inactive accounts, a lot of ppl left the game long time ago. You are from BG. Guest into low tier servers and you will see. I was on SF, i know what i am talking about. I should many times to guest in JQ/BG to do something related with pve

I keep reading this. I will tell you what my Sr VP tells us, do not come to me with problems come to me with solutions.

Solution? Inactive for 30 days = no home server. When they come back they have to choose a new home server.

Problem fixed.

style.6173:

Merlin Dyfed Avalon.5046:

Well Eotm is build for zerging, door hp alone is a good example for that.

This ^^.

Also, WvW is in trouble. Why? This forum has given a ton of good ideas. A main rep for ANET (not allie) came and said we do not represent what people want and so most of those ideas are disregarded.

A perfect example of the CDI that was done here recently on population balance. There were a ton of ideas given. ANET barely responded and when they did, it was to ask about changing the transfer rate based on WvW population. That was pretty much it.

ANET has a vision for WvW. Unfortunately, it will be a vision that only they end up playing. Hint ANET: PvE is not the solution.

PvE is the solution though.

If you find a way to combine both the PvE community and WvW community towards a common goal = 24/7 map fills on all servers in WvW (or something like it).

Don’t believe me? Look at the server populations, majority of the servers are high, very high, or full for NA. If that entire population were to contribute to WvW there would be no “coverage problem.”

The separation of PvE players and WvW players is the problem we are facing now. Servers that are either full or very high but are mainly filled with PvE players that contribute nothing to the servers WvW.

If you can figure out a way to tap into that PvE population, the issue with coverage problems in WvW are gone.

Ideas?
- Dragons in WvW. Kill a dragon = get the castle and dragon protects your castle.
- What would WvWers do then? Protect the PvEr’s trying to take a tower/castle.
- No more siege, at all.
- Make the map into a LoL style map, meaning WvWers are trying to push a “lane” while the PvEr’s are trying to take castles/towers on enemy lines.

Qaelyn.7612:

DivineBeing.2086:

Reslinal.2359:

I think WvW dev team is the worst among ANET teams in communicating with players and address real problems in game play. SPvP team got lot of heat but they actually do show up on forum to answer player concerns. WvW team just don’t talk at all and don’t even try to address the “elephant in the room” balance problems in WvW.

Seriously, just scrap WvW already and make some tweaks to EoTM.

What is the point of EotM by itself?

1. If I want to fight for my server, WvW is far better.
2. If I want loot, PvE is far better.
3. If I want serious PvP where my skill matters, tPvP is far better.

Fine, EotM appeals to certain playstyles. But I really think most of the people there right now are there only because of unfixed problems with real WvW. The solution is to fix them, not destroy what could be a great playstyle for no reason.

EoTM fixes the #1 problem though, coverage issues.

No more waking up in the morning to see that your enemy is ticking at 400 ppt all night giving them a 10k point lead everyday.

You log in, fight, log out. Points have no bearing, ppt has no bearing. At this point it is juet a group of friends (guilds) playing together when and if they feel like it.

WvW felt like a job, a duty to your server. EoTM takes the job out of WvW, which I believe everyone wanted.

Reslinal.2359:

I think WvW dev team is the worst among ANET teams in communicating with players and address real problems in game play. SPvP team got lot of heat but they actually do show up on forum to answer player concerns. WvW team just don’t talk at all and don’t even try to address the “elephant in the room” balance problems in WvW.

Seriously, just scrap WvW already and make some tweaks to EoTM.

Taken just now.

Ljiona.9142:

EOTM is the future. Get use to it BG and JQ. Coverage Wars II has died.

Looks at score. You mean get use to it JQ?

Man, I would hate to say I told you so about JQ oceanic coverage….but I told you so.

Good job JQ on your recruiting efforts!

Fannwong.3059:

Hello,

I have to agree with Letoll on this.

BG leadership direction was clearly headed that way since league. Winning at all costs. I hope the true warrior leaders in BG can change things for the better. Gw2 is not war, gw2 is a game.

FW

LetoII.3782:

There being noone to fight is the logical conclusion of stacking.
But fights aren’t important are they? Winning is

Says one of the players who stack to JQ from SoR instead of stacking to a tier 2 or lower server.

Mr Ko Killer.7206:

DivineBeing.2086:

Oh, last wednesday? You mean the first day for our oceanic/sea guilds to check out EoTM? Literally the day after EoTM was released?

Weird.

I don’t think your OCX guilds were playing EotM while you were ticking for 600. Look at millennium, the score was within 200 when EotM came out. By the week’s end BG was winning by 15k. BG did not play EotM.

DivineBeing.2086:

Have you checked the score JQ is the one pvdooring

SoR’s still playing EotM. So naturally, all their stuff is PvD, BG holds their garri, and EB’s been back and forth since reset.

I don’t think you have noticed, but people are still playing EotM. But please, tell me more on how JQ’s overstacked and ticking unbelievable numbers but lost 14 of the last 15 weeks. It’s a timezone, our EU sucks and has since forever, can I now proceed to QQ all over forums about it like you?

Wow, you completely fail to pick up on sarcasm huh? That was my point. Your point was we were ticking at 600 during oceanic a day after EoTM was released. Do you see the connection yet? JQ obviously was not WvWing that day.

EU timezone? Oh nooo, BG is ticking 5 ppt higher than you during EU prime (as of the tkme of this post) that totally compares to us ticking 150 while JQ ticks 400+ during oceanic and sea.

Mr Ko Killer.7206:

Seigfried.5938:

Mr Ko Killer.7206:

DivineBeing.2086:

Peetee.9406:

BG logic at its finest.

Bashes SoR for fighting pugs in EotM.
Sits in SoRBL fighting doors and the warg.

Great logic there…..

Have you checked the score JQ is the one pvdooring. SoR and BG are both ticking in the 100 to 170 range….

Man you’re such a try hard.

such a deep and profound rebuttal!

I don’t really need one, this was just last Wednesday. I’ll also note that this came from OCX timezone.

But keep trolling yourselves….

Oh, last wednesday? You mean the first day for our oceanic/sea guilds to check out EoTM? Literally the day after EoTM was released?

Hmmmm, I wonder if that had something to do with it? Nah, purely coincidental. BG always ticks at 600+. I mean just check the current match up, BG is ticking for 400+ oceanic, sea, and early EU….oh wait….green is JQ….not BG…..

That can’t be right? I mean we ticked 600 during that timezone, even though consistently since JQ got SoRs guilds has been ticking 400ish.

Weird.

Peetee.9406:

BG logic at its finest.

Bashes SoR for fighting pugs in EotM.
Sits in SoRBL fighting doors and the warg.

Great logic there…..

Have you checked the score JQ is the one pvdooring. SoR and BG are both ticking in the 100 to 170 range….

I have posted this numerous time. Anet needs to just scrap WvW and tweak EoTM.

The best match ups would be if all 3x servers had 24/7 map coverage. EoTM is the best solution we have at the moment to obtaining that.

Vermillion.4061:

JQ/BG decided to open the chest and buy most of SoR because they don’t care about a spread out even fight.

Actually SoR imploded due to their “we play for fights” mentality.

Some guilds went to FA, some went to SoS, and their oceanic went to JQ.

BG did not ask, nor get any of their guilds.

So you can pretty much expect JQ to now roflstomp tier 1 due to their overwhelming oceanic coverage that can push kitten ppt if they try. Just watch the match up. I bet JQ doesn’t tick below 275 and probably 310ish or more on average between 0:00 and 5:59 server time.

BG does indeed have a warchest for the guilds part of the war council (all major WvW guilds) for this particular reason.

Vespirisa.1497:

DivineBeing.2086:

When you see the attached happen (it was 500+ ppt btw), even in tier 1…. I am curious how WvW will continue going forward.

Simple. Tell people on your server to stop PvDooring and fight us in EoTM.

That’s what OnS did tonight for our raid. The results? Green team won. We captured both blue and red keeps. Choo was on the map but went to watch NS vs TW in OS afterawhile.

When you see the attached happen (it was 500+ ppt btw), even in tier 1…. I am curious how WvW will continue going forward.

Chaba.5410:

Well at least it no longer is TC or SOS telling FA how FA is.

Versus every server telling BG how BG is.

morrolan.9608:

DivineBeing.2086:

This week? You mean when BG is trying and JQ isn’t trying at all?

Merc, Sox, XPK and others have all been out this week.

DivineBeing.2086:

The match was balanced, now JQ will literally cruise through matches with no competition. Why? BG only wishes we could tick at kitten in ANY timezone if we pushed hard.

LOL, keep it up.

Not sure why it turned my “four fifty five” into kitten.

That sentences was suppose to say “BG only wishes we could tick at four fifty five in ANY timezone if we pushed hard.”

morrolan.9608:

DivineBeing.2086:

Did you even check gw2score to check the math? This week and last week, mosts points gained by JQ 0:00 to 5:59, otherwise known as Oceanic. Checking further will show that before your recruits it was relatively balanced oceanic, both of us ticking between 225 and 250. Now? JQ ticking primarily above 275. And you were able to push to kitten , waypointing 2x keeps and SMC.

Like I said last week the excuses were that BG was pre-occupied with the wurm event. This week the scores, yes on that site, show that BG has been ticking higher than JQ most oceanic evenings, BGs hourly average during the timezone is greater.

This week? You mean when BG is trying and JQ isn’t trying at all? And when they did try they ticked at kitten ppt waypointing 2x keeps and SMC? That’s not alarming to you? And BG BARELY ticking above JQ the other days? We both know we can’t look at Tuesday and forward due to EoTM.

The match was balanced, now JQ will literally cruise through matches with no competition. Why? BG only wishes we could tick at kitten in ANY timezone if we pushed hard.

Definitely do not base it off rating.

morrolan.9608:

DivineBeing.2086:

JQ has actually won the stacking wars. Their oceanic outnumbers BG even if BGs 3x PvX oceanic guilds were to log in together. Proof of that is the consistent 300+ ppt in the oceanic time zone for the last two weeks.

<sigh> more BG attempts to play the underdog, as has been said before no-one not from BG buys it. Apart from 1 night this week you have been leading oceanic this week. And anyway I thought that what happened last week was because of the wurm event, at least thats what I keep being told by BG. So which is it?

DivineBeing.2086:

I have no doubt that JQ will win the match ups here on out.

So congratulations for your must needed recruitment efforts JQ. We all know other servers could have used those numbers.

You guys really are desperate to recruit despite your numbers aren’t you.

Did you even check gw2score to check the math? This week and last week, mosts points gained by JQ 0:00 to 5:59, otherwise known as Oceanic. Checking further will show that before your recruits it was relatively balanced oceanic, both of us ticking between 225 and 250. Now? JQ ticking primarily above 275. And you were able to push to kitten , waypointing 2x keeps and SMC.

You seriously have to be trolling to not see how the balance has completely fallen off.

And once again, tell us who we have been trying to recruit? If you cannot, than why spread lies?

nirvana.8245:

In BGs defence I do feel that they were the underdogs going into Season 1. Especially considering they had not just been beaten, but wrecked leading up to the season by both JQ and SOR. Now, however, things have changed. The server itself is just extremely stacked. I am glad I am no longer there. In the long run it will be a burden on the server itself.

This week I have built around 80 paper trebs in obscure positions and been trebbing their keeps/towers. Most of those times BG has been able to pull an entire zerg off what they are doing, often from another side of the map, to deal with my single effort. They never react by sending one person. In the few times where it hasn’t been a full zerg its 5+ players. The server is so stacked now and the attitude and conduct of many of the players is not what it used to be. There is a large following of players who are just there for the easy win.

I see a really bad scenario coming for T1 in NA in the near future. SORs collapse means a two horse race and because BG is so stacked JQ will slowly lose its morale. Alot of BG players and guilds are already complaining about a lack of fights. And quite frankly its because its getting old that other players have to constantly fight them in outnumbered scenarios. The wise thing to do would be for BG to self destack. But I honestly think for both positive (friends on the server) and negative (easy wins/fights) reasons it won’t happen and BGs guilds will have no choice but to destack unless they want to login and have nothing to do in WvW. But hey, at least we got EoTM now!

JQ has actually won the stacking wars. Their oceanic outnumbers BG even if BGs 3x PvX oceanic guilds were to log in together. Proof of that is the consistent 300+ ppt in the oceanic time zone for the last two weeks. Last night was an exception considering EoTM was released yesterday.

I have no doubt that JQ will win the match ups here on out.

So congratulations for your must needed recruitment efforts JQ. We all know other servers could have used those numbers.

If you don’t believe BG hasn’t been recruiting since leagues you can even go to our forums and see us publically turn away a french guild and suggested them to join SoR. And if you don’t believe BG and JQ weren’t already imbalanced in the oceanic timezone before last week, look at the prior matches between 12AM and 5AM server time (oceanic). JQ was already on par or beating us in that timezone.

And for further proof, JQ has been stating on gw2wvw that none of them are even trying this week and BG has, HB probably the only guild doing overtime though. That even further cements the fact JQ completely jacked the balance of tier 1. Because if they trully are not trying than they should have no troubles ticking above 400 ppt in all timezones now with their new recruits.

Virtute.8251:

Didn’t mean to argue against EoTM promoting stacking. It does, unquestionably, but indirectly. After that tacit admission, the argument really comes down to whether or not you consider stacking to be an inherently bad thing.

EoTM doesn’t kill regular WvW. It changes it. EoTM is a new factor to the total equation. It’s not going to destroy normal WvW. It also will not be the last major revision of WvW.

I was hoping it would kill WvW to be honest.

The best match up for me is when all three servers have 24/7 queues. That will only happen if we get the massive PvE population some how involved in WvW. EoTM does that with the big boss fights. PvE players will support the WvW players by doing what they do best, pveing.

CrimsonNeonite.1048:

‘Hardcore’ wvwers will still hop onto the main maps especially for Reset, eventually the novelty will wear off anyway.

I don’t see how this will bring about much difference to the gameplay you see in everyday wvw apart from the Map layout, having to play alongside Servers who are the same colour (which’ll bring about language barriers but everyone knows how to blob right?), PVE objectives, LS while it lasts and without the PPT to worry about; not that many even cares (or has to care) about that anyway.

There will be Roamers, Gankers and Guild Groups, but those tied to their Community are still obligated to support their own Server Community on the main maps. As mentioned it’ll be a place for people to hop into wvw if there’s imbalanced Match-Ups, but we’ll just to wait and see how it affects the Match-Ups.
I predict that most Guilds will prefer the layout of the Borderland Maps and every other zergling will stick to EB as usual.

Anyway, the time for Speculation is almost over!

I am hoping they scrap WvW in favor of EoTM honestly.

People wanted a fix for WvW coverage problems? This is your fix.

Fannwong.3059:

Hello DivineBeing,

Unfortunately that is not true, BG was actively recruiting pvx guilds after Season 1.

FW

DivineBeing.2086:

ykyk.2740:

Personally I think T2 as it is now is reasonably balanced, but T1 is starting to look more and more out of whack and we all know this means another shift in the rankings is in the making.

SoR looks to be struggling in T1 coverage-wise. If history is anything to go by, momentum is a real thing in the power balance. SoS will likely continue to pick up players whether they like it or not. This could be a good thing if SoS ends up being the server to replace SoR in T1. With some luck, SoR can be competitive in T2 and the top 3 NA tiers might look reasonably balanced (there’ll still be favorites, especially in T2 and 3, but it’s probably better than what we have now).

T1 is even more of a worse spot now that JQ accept guild transfers. They could have gone the BG route and turned away the transfer requests to servers that need them. I cannot tell you how many guilds we have had to turn away since leagues ended.

Our main competitor accepting more guild transfers is a definite way to start an arms race instead of balancing populations.

And as Smokee stated, name the guilds we “recruited” post season 1? There is even a public thread on BG’s forums where we turned away a French guild. We pointed them to SoR, however they decided to stay on EU.

Meglobob.8620:

The reason there are less players playing WvW now is after season 1, where they overdosed on WvW, they went on a WvW break. Pretty much all of them said they would be back for Season 2.

Chances are a lot will be back 4.2.14 to play EOTM…

Going back to same old match ups after season 1 was kinda boring after the excitement of the league…

I agree completely with everything stated in this post.

Leagues was a change of scenery. Tier 1 perspective, it allowed servers from tier 2 to see how they “matched up” against a tier 1 server. I am sure some loved it and others hated it, however a change of scenery is a good thing.

Hopefully they can keep the pve players coming into WvW though. It would be a beautiful game if everyone had 24/7 queues.

Now its all about longevity and endurance.

Fannwong.3059:

Hello Smokee,

Thank you for sharing your point of view. I stand on the information given to me.

Do check my post history. I never troll on the forums. Ever. The ex-IRON folks in your guild can attest to that.

FW

Smokee.1754

Please name your source or I call BS like with the rest of your post. Im not sure if you are trying very badly to troll, or you are just another brainwashed SoR player.

Considering Smokee is the co-leader of 1 of 3 EU guilds, also being the guild that is reliably on everyday. He is also part of the war council which every guild transfer is discussed within their meetings.

So I would say his “point of view” is a much more accurate representation of BG’s current situation than your “point of view.”

Good luck though….

ykyk.2740:

Personally I think T2 as it is now is reasonably balanced, but T1 is starting to look more and more out of whack and we all know this means another shift in the rankings is in the making.

SoR looks to be struggling in T1 coverage-wise. If history is anything to go by, momentum is a real thing in the power balance. SoS will likely continue to pick up players whether they like it or not. This could be a good thing if SoS ends up being the server to replace SoR in T1. With some luck, SoR can be competitive in T2 and the top 3 NA tiers might look reasonably balanced (there’ll still be favorites, especially in T2 and 3, but it’s probably better than what we have now).

T1 is even more of a worse spot now that JQ accept guild transfers. They could have gone the BG route and turned away the transfer requests to servers that need them. I cannot tell you how many guilds we have had to turn away since leagues ended.

Our main competitor accepting more guild transfers is a definite way to start an arms race instead of balancing populations.

First, you may want to decide the type of game play you are aiming for:
1. Zerg vs Zerg?
2. Small group roaming?
3. Solo roaming?

Each game play above will require you to use a completely different build. If you’re built for zerging, stay away from the roamers. If you’re built for roaming, stay away from zerging lol.

Good luck!

Hmm, I would like to fight tier 2 in general.

Natronix.9827:

They are gonna close this because randomneverbeenonbgbutbelieveeverythingpostedaboutthem players keep talking crap about BG. Sigh

Fixed that for you.