Guild Wars 2

Vuh.1328:

/angry rant
In my mind considering how balance changes have happened since launch i imagine the balance team playing a different game than us and at the meetings they go “Hey lets open up gw2skill.net or intothemists.com and see what we can do now”.

I refuse to believe that a team made up for balance can be so ridiculously blind and ignorant about the state of the game while also playing the same game as us, especially if they got any prior experience with multi player games.
Only thing that would make changes like dhumbfire and healing signet/cleansing ire make sense if you hired a bunch of guys on the street and slapped the gw2 manual in their face.

Now a more calm request, START MAKING VIDEOS EXPLAINING THE REASONING BEHIND BIG CHANGES LIKE DHUMBFIRE ETC, or at a writen text about why you add/change things like you have done so they might make some sort of sense to us.
PLEASE.

I can understand slow content development for pvp with a understaffed team

I can understand problems with the higher ups and transparency not being your strong side.

I can understand lack of focus pvp gets since it doesn’t generate any real money for you(your own fault though).

I cannot understand the way the balance team thinks

I cannot understand the process that went through your head when you said you are going to remove glory and not compensate us for our boosters, stored up crafting materials since the pvp crafting sucks orbs.

I cannot understand why you ask for feedback(both from the core testers or whatever it was called) and then completely decide to ignore it or do the complete opposite of what the feedback says. Or even worse claim you don’t get enough feedback, you have gotten plenty of quality feedback and suggestions and it seems like it have completely been ignored.

I cannot understand why you don’t have any deadlines what so ever either, you are not valve and working on half life 3, you are working on a themepark mmorpg which requires a steady stream of balance and content for both PVE and PvP.

I cannot understand why the hell you won’t remove skyhammer and spirit watch from solo queue with so many players hating them.

How do you not feel bad and manage to sleep at night with the horrible way you have been treating pvp?

Gah early morning rage
/angry rant off

I made a post like this about a month ago, and just got unsuspended. I explained that in the real world, or at least in my firm, they would have been fired. There is nothing we can do about it. Good luck!

dude i love you

It just scares me because we are like supposed to be a huge game out at the moment… there is no way we are this small.

The PVP is starting to look like DIABLO2 PVP after 10+ years. Seeing the same people in pubs etc.

How is this possible? This game came out last year…

This never happened in WoW.

How can we POSSIBLY be at a state worse than D2 that came out like 13 years ago?

JEebus

How small is it? When I hotjoin or tpvp, I literally see the same people all the time. This is at different time periods too. Is it that small?

Do we stand a chance of actually having a good pvp community?

you quit bro, stop acting like you lift

Isn’kitten shame how unbalanced this game is? That literally is a warrior.

Are you guys saying 30/30/x is a good gunslinger build?

I think 25/30/0/0/15 might be the best imo. Super high damage, with extra initiative from preparedness.

What do you guys use for utility?

I also think withdraw/or the malice heal is the best heal for gunslingers.

P/P is not really that bad anymore.

You could also try a x/30/0/20/x variant with withdraw, and the trait for more int every 10 seconds, to be very tricky and hard to pin down.

game is in ruin, what else is there to say

please fix this anet, this literally destroys the mesmer

mesmer is officially dead

can someone answer my question? when did this happen

clones die on stealth now?

can someone please link build or stop talking

I want to understand game more, and troll more too.

No seriously, link me.

so 0/0//30/30/10 is this decap build?

what kind of build are you talking about? can someone link me?

are you talking about a bunker build?

0/0/20/30/20?

Yeah, p/p.

Gimmie.

cowboy status.

I was going to say no warrior responses, but could you list builds? I want to try them out. I only really play mesmer/thief

hotjoin, spvp, tpvp

I want a char that is an all rounder. Who could bunker, dps, and support. If you could have one char do this, what would it be?

I am thinking engi right now.

Couldn’t have said it better myself. There are arrogant people here that act like this game is DnD and we are all “weird” for not liking it. This is literally one of the worst games in history.

I am going to roll a warrior today, I am tired of literally seeing them 1v2 every other class with equal skill.

When I say that the team with the most warriors win, I am not lying.

entropy.9613:

It also offers more than a few fragile, sheltered souls who respond to some weaksauce burns with a report and a forum thread instead of just blocking or ignoring the offender like an adult would.

I just logged in to agree with this adult poster.

People like OP are what makes this game bad lol.

felivear.1536:

Evan Lesh.3295:

It’s still on the table for the future, but it lives low on the list of priorities so it won’t be making it in anytime soon.

I would love to know what the priority lists consists of. I could be wrong, but I would be willing to bet that the priority lists the devs have is inconsistent with what the players want. (this is just a guess based on 95% of all patches ever released)

this times 999999999999

There are only a few things I could do during that game, I am a roamer, I don’t care too much about points! I scored 40% of the overall points out of 5 people. I could have done exactly what you said, but my team wasn’t there to support me…there is only so much you can do solo. I am pure glass and would have been kitten d in most of the situations above, because the other team knew exactly what to do. They were winning 2v3’s at mid, and their home defender kitten d the guy going to assault far. That leaves me deciding to defend home as a glass roamer? Think before you speak “bro.”

I was going to AFK after the first 45 seconds because of how I saw them play the map, it was sad mang.

But yes, we lost 5v4 due to 3 level 1-10s on our team that didn’t even understand BASIC concepts of pvp.

It is easy to say what you just said entropy, but I was basically just killing people and getting sneaky monster kills that game instead of afking.

Don’t hate the player, hate the game. I mean that literally, it is a shame there is nothing else to play right now

is s/p viable? I might try s/d but am really liking the versatility of d/p

Yeah, latest mesmer nerf made me quit class, no reason to play roamer mesmer when thief does it so much better.

Used to play mesmer, but forgot the absolutely cruel things you can do as d/p sb

I use full glass, but it is pretty crazy.

10/30/0/0/30

I can pretty much perm stealth, have huge spike damage, and do ridiculous things with blinds/interrupts.

pistol #5 is pretty much god like!

I can roam, and just wreak havok. I love this class, and I will never play another class again.

Cyricus.2981:

This is the reason I hardly ever duel. I hate listening to trash talkers or people that make excuses/whine. Or people that just use cookie cutter specs. If you are gonna duel, you should be trying out your own builds. But, to each their own I guess.

if cookie cutter specs win, would you rather die and lose with…?

Dignity doesn’t win stuff dude, and this isn’t just in this game.

Stop hating on people for using the optimal build at the moment, why use something sub optimal…for pride? Are you kidding me?

Pride doesn’t win duels, specs do.

It is crazy that we got pitted against them…they beat us 4v5.

We got 3? THREE? lvl < 10s on our team, including a lvl 1.

They are all between 40-46.

If we even had another lvl 30+ we would have won, hell 20+

These players should not be allowed to enter team queue! WTF THIS ISN"T HOTJOIN

The whole form a team thing shouldn’t matter, because a team of all 40+ shouldn’t be facing a team with 3 level 1-10 on it… that is just wrong.

I rather play random teamq then yoloq (more points mang)

But yeah, don’t tell me to find a team, this match should have never even happened in the FIRST place.

Remember guys, this is why we paid $60 dollars

Are you god kitten kidding me?

A sad day in tpvp.

Ranked TPVP and we lost 5v4.

Look at blue, and look at my sweet old bloodied, gutted, red team.

Thanks for the great matchmaking tho.

All is vain

Exedore.6320:

WoW balance was always an issue that contributed to the lukewarm reception of RBGs, partly because they tried to balance too many skills and specs across too many formats (PvE dungeons, PvE raids, 2v2 team deathmatch, 3v3 team deathmatch, CTF, conquest), and also because they had to deal with gear scaling.

In order to balance an MMORPG, you usually have to do the following, most of which ANet has done:
- Use small-scale formats where one mistake or tiny delay won’t decide a match.
- Focus on one format to start, preferably where not all character skills can be easily quantified (map mobility, etc).
- Do not allow stats on gear to change over time.
- Don’t overreact to something becoming popular. Give the community time to find counters and see how bad it actually is and where the true problem lies.
- At the same time, don’t wait too long to react or under-react to a problem. Not doing enough is almost as bad as constant knee-jerk changes.
- Don’t let key roles for certain classes be too weak for too long. This is more for games with very rigid character specializations or roles.

You speak like you have worked on a balance team before, those points are futile.

So basically don’t overreact when blatantly powerful classes rule metas for months, and just accept there is no counter.

You keep telling yourself that.

Basically every drop of advice you just gave, ANET has done the complete opposite of. Either you know what your talking about, or our DEVS don’t.

All is vain~

AV, AB, WSG.

Why is our ESPORT the equivalent to another MMOs daily grind?

Our Esport is another game’s hotjoin.

I quit this game months ago, but I really had high hopes for it. The only reason people even sort of play it (pve wise) is because there is simply nothing else better. Like Machiavelli said about power, in the end, it comes down to the “Winds of fortuna”

The winds of chance. You got lucky that this industry is in a rut right now, but you owe me my $60 back.

This may be deleted, but just thought I would put it out there.

Eloquently said, and IMO this is the biggest nerf to mesmers since beta.

You literally just destroyed what has been a staple in 99% of all mesmer builds, and literally assists the CORE MECHANIC of our class.

I currently play phantasm right now, but enough is enough. The vigor nerf? I can accept that.

You literally just gutted the mesmer class, and destroyed the CORE build of what a mesmer was “supposed” to be. You don’t want us to be phantasm, or PU, you wanted us to be SHATTER.

Thank you again ANET, for completely ruining a class.

Brando.1374:

Dire amulet
798 condi dmg
569 vit
569 toughness

Dire Jewel
125 condi dmg
75 vit
75 toughness

That about sums up the last 6 months of PVP right there.

If this actually makes it into the game, I will suicide IRL.

All is vain

where are these changes listed? wtf

Went PU for a while, felt like a noob.

Back to shatter in TPVP, and loving it.

Higher skill cap, but you can sort of do ridiculous things with mesmers and a focus

Like supcutie says

Portal….the plays!!!!

I am serious, this is much easier than implementing NEW animations for characters which is much harder to do imo. All you do is create a box that is visible to other people that let’s them know wtf is going on.

This would add so much counterplay, and actually make interrupts useful in this game.

Think about how much this game would change if interrupts worked like they did in WoW.

The best moments in my WoW arena experience were spell locking (an interrupt which “silences” them, disabling them from casting) pallies/priests/shamans during their heal, just to interrupt them, and lock them out of casting again for 3-4 seconds, which means gg to their partner in 2v2.

Plays like what I just described are what makes the reward so fulfilling! Interrupts in this game are just kitten at the moment, and this would literally change the game sooo much for the better.

Vargamonth.2047:

Animation tell system works fine.

orly

/15char

I can’t even begin to name how many basic problems currently exist in a game that has been live for over year, and looks worse than most games in beta.

I do not want people to agree with me or not, but the game is based on 5v5, and cast bars in 5v5 in WoW were not that bad, and could be managed here.

Again, we are just adding in more things to deduce better players who can make better decisions, from worse players who think they can be better, but are limited due to system restraints currently in place.

All is vain.

I think it would. Anyone complaining about how there is currently no counter play would now get their chance to actually respond and suck, instead of just whining and sucking at the same time.

People complain everything is “too quick” in this game

I undoubtedly think it would add a new, interesting, much needed facet into pvp

discuss

Valentin.2073:

Stievie.6128:

Valentin.2073:

stop the qq’s already. i play both glass cannon and spirit build on my ranger. if you want to get insane dps, you go power build but dont expect to get that toughness that a spirit ranger has. people wont get satisfied with the things that they have.

btw, i can beat engineers, guards, and thieves 1v1 on my glassy ranger. rangers are in a really good place right now. stop asking for the nerfbat already.

Its funny because even a staff elementalist doing the same dps as a power ranger, but AoE, while providing waterfields he can blast himself up to 4 times , AoE frostarmors , AoE CC´s still isnt viable for high tpvp play….

Ranger is in a bad place atm, saying “i can beat random guys 1v1” doesnt reflect the state of the ranger at all, there are power builds for superior in terms utility while doing similar dps , that still arent viable vs competent opponents. Some random 1v1´s dont say anything about actualy balance or teamplay, a ranger if he isnt traited for spirits, doesnt provide anything to his team outside of a waterfield on 30 sec cd…
Ontop of that the pet AI still behaves horrible with a plethora of pathing issues.
There are so many problems with rangers at the moment its not even funny.

I believe its a design problem but number tweaks could still do alot, but even that wouldnt go the whole way, heck even thieves are better rangers than rangers.
Like why is it that thieves can do up to 2k auto crits with their shortbow, spam 4k clusterbombs while the ranger shortbow does 500 crits at best if you go full zerker, dont even get me started on SB 3 from thief vs SB 3 from ranger, both are backwards 3/4 sec evades, the rangers does lower dps, doesnt cripple and isnt spammable.

As it stands rangers just get outclassed by about anything in this game due to their relyance on pets. Trap ranger? why not bring a necro? Longbow Ranger? Why not bring a Mesmer/staff ele/Rifle warrior? shoutregen ranger? why not get a bunker engi or guard? All those are more effective, the only realy good build , or better said competive build, they are left with is a passive AI build and that leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. They could buff longbow damage by 50% on all abilities and it still wouldnt change a thing in high lvl tpvp, rangers are in dire need of a complete rework, as they are now they are just a hollow shell of the once great gw1 ranger.

tl;dr:
Rangers are outclassed by almost anything and their design is horribly flawed atm.

PS: I dont play ranger

how many times did anet nerf the spirit build? these kinds of qq posts are becoming really annoying.

Yet they are still OP, and are seeing too much play. Warriors got nerfed too, and are still OP. Mindless cheese specs that a noob can play well in HIGH level tourney play. Just because you shave something, doesn’t mean it is fixed, clearly it needs more shaving. It, along with other specs, have ruined pvp in this game.

Stop trying to defend your broken spec of a class.

You don’t even lift bro!

All is vain.

Oidmetala.8426:

well spirit ranger is still only working build and its not so strong anymore.
you doing a great job anet in talking at sotg and just do nothing about that

spirit rangers are OP, it is a shame they are forced to spec that way, but then again every class in the game is forced to spec 1 way at this current moment

A win is a win, for the other person to complain about how that win occurred?

Don’t hate the player, hate the game, in this case, I hate GW2.

To anyone complaining about OP classes winning? It is the equivalent of the IRS giving out a $1,000 USD tax rebate to anyone who applies. If you think you are too prideful to take that rebate because of said reason, don’t hate the people who have nicer meals and garbs than you.

Just because you don’t take advantage of the current system and lose, doesn’t make you arrogant or better…it just makes you stupid for failing to adapt to what wins.

It would be like you continuing to produce model T ford cars, out of pride, when a ford fusion is clearly a better, more logical option.

Don’t get on your soapbox and explain to me why my ford fusion is an abomination, and I am using “cheese” just because you choose to not adapt in an ever changing economy and world.

All is vain.

I loved mesmers so much that I continued to play them even though they suck.

Just went back to my spam condi-mancer and facerolled people.

I kid you not, i literally just rolled my fingers across buttons 1-5 on my teldo engi, and also won numerous 1v2s on point vs decent people as well.

I will no longer let my pride get in the way of me winning.

Winning is so easy now!

All is vain.

Doesn’t nightmare require rank 80? he is 29

Michael.7382:

Divinity, don’t moan…. If it rlly hurts U to take a look and get to know: silver+dragon, u wish for crit.

? Be coherent and explain.

So you guys want to keep it a secret or something? This is why GW2 fails. I’ve never seen such an arrogant, malignant player base in my life. Happy Holidays!

How did you get this?

Please keep us updated. Maybe how to play certain maps, general mesmer gameplay in each map, and how to face certain meta matchups. Overall view of the mesmer, what do you think of our new heal, and also, where you see the mesmer going in TPVP in the future.

Chaos Archangel.5071:

Right now I run a 30/10/0/0/30 shatter/lockdown build, taking a large chunk of the damage from a straightforward shatter build and adding more versatility with chain-dazes, vuln stacking, and enemy boon removal. Works well in team fights and 1v1 situations, but it takes a bit of practice to understand the extra mechanics.

And I think there’s the rub right there: “Takes practice.” When people jump in to play Mesmer, they usually start with a Phantasm build, especially in PvP because it takes less practice and easier to learn mechanics.

The sudden rise of Prismatic Understanding (PU) Mesmer follow a similar mindset: takes less work for the same reward. It’s a shame, really, because the Mesmer class has a lot of interesting builds that do not get enough limelight because of this “take the easy way”/“that’s too hard for me” mentality. I don’t look down on anyone picking up an easier build to start, but when they adhere to that “easy” build and never spent more than a few minutes trying out anything else it gets a bit disappointing. I see more Prismatic and Phantasm Mesmers more than anything, even if those aren’t the most optimal builds for the situation, and it just perpetuates the ridiculous stereotype that Mesmer is an “easy” class. Every class has easy builds, and every class has builds that can be more effective but take more effort to make work; its a matter of the individual player.

And then there’s always the parrots: “Mesmer isn’t good because of this. Run Phantasm because shatter is bad.” Some of these people have legitimate reasons, but I’d wager more often then not most people who say that haven’t really explored the class/builds as much as they let on. This mentality leads people to stray to the “optimal” classes. I’ve heard “Thief can do everything Mesmer can do but better” plenty of times, and I shake my head every time I hear that because it’s not a matter of the class, it’s a matter of the specific builds involved.

What a well written post.