Guild Wars 2

Amitabh Bachan.4385:

Because it’s easier to turn off your brain and let the AI fight for you

or the OP passive healing signet heal you
or the ridic of bows on warriors
or the auto attack of ranger’s sb
or the 1 button condi burst signet of smite
or the faceroll conditions a bunker engi can put on you in less than 3 seconds

see what i did der?

TGH.7630:

Condition builds lack the power necessary to bring elementalists below the 90% threshold. This is because elementalists harbour a variety of heals, and also often run with at least some toughness. This is not an ‘Ele is op pls nerf’ thread. Simply, this particular trait completely negates counter-play in certain scenarios, which I do not feel is in the best interest of the game.

Maybe make it so that while above 90% health, conditions applied to you have a 66% reduced duration. This would increase the effort needed to bring them below that threshold while making it still, actually possible.

Name a competitive ele who uses this trait. Wait..name a competitive ele…

Quickfoot Katana.8642:

Prysin.8542:

Dardamaniac.1295:

This is ridiculous.
A SB/GS Ranger with boar-wolf, aoe cc-feared me to death…2 knockdowns-2 aoe fears for a long duration-2 daze stuns from Boar and another 2 dazes in 20s cd from GS-SB….

They had the petting zoo so far now they have huge amounts of CC and aoe Fear..

let me tell you a secret. We had that CC all along, and even more CC if we spec for it.

If you meet a ranger with Hyena, Hounds of Balthazar, SB and GS, you might aswell just lie down and die. Because you sir, are going nowere

Hounds of Balthazar? Come on guys who left the PvE-door open again?

Just lold irl haha

this thread is 5 months old

No, the game has gotten exponentially worse since you left. I sadly just realized the only playable specs anymore are bunker. How sad is that? It was never this bad.

This is not a condi meta, this is a bunker meta. So sad really.

Darnis.4056:

There’s like two ways to look at this, one is
A)There is no objective way to measure skill, therefore Leaderboards Mean nothing.
I.e “getting top w/e isn’t really representative of any personal skill level.”

Which is probably true for the most part

B) There is only one objective yet flawed method of measuring skill in GW2 and that is the Team Que Leaderboards, if you’ve made it to the top 1-200 you can play gw2 pvp well but there is still no way to truly tell who is the best. If however you are unranked in all leaderboards and are just a hotjoin hero, you can safely say you’re untested and most probably awful.

Still there’s a lot of anecdotal evidence people like to provide like
“No one even plays gw2 you’re good among Kitteners”
“All the Good teams quit already”
“EU has the only good teams” (replace with NA when OP is an amerikitten)
“I was really good at one point and no longer play, and you’re bad even though I haven’t played against you in a year”

OP is unranked on all leaderboards even achievements btw.. so.. I don’t even… know what he does in gw2

PS. It seems almost no one actually read the OP and just the title, and jumped into a discussion about pvp rank which used to be skin unlocks iduno what it is now.

*P.P.S. Soloque is super casual and random. and can never be used for any sort of objective calculations.

Yes, they didn’t really read what I said tee hee.

Is it human psyche? I hear people saying I am in the top xxx of soloq/teamq.

^ Is that supposed to mean you are “good?”

Why are you guys still trying to act like any of this actually means something when both suffer from systemic problems and inadequacies?

Just curious, it is quite laughable.

warriors are still OP, just played a soloq… vs 4x ham/bow warriors. They do redic damage with no drawbacks.

ahuba.6430:

Geff.1930:

This is a PvE game. Devs don’t care about feedback from PvPers.

The bad,

- The mesmer heal. While, in my opinion, it’s balanced in shatter specs and can lead to great plays or disaster depending on the players, also encourages phantasm specs and pu specs, and both of these (specially PU) are a complete joke.

? Stop talking about things you don’t understand please. This heal is the epitome of what other classes got. It actually works well and synergizes VERY good. Stop hating please because you don’t like fighting PU specs. Nobody likes fighting bunkers

New heal + phantasm mesmer would have destroyed that character, and pretty much any other character 1v1. Phantasms were always strong, but a disenchanter, and other phantasms, with the ability to refresh on command? Anet is being silly now lol.

such a troll lol

I understand it is all PU or phantasm.

Share your builds with the updates from DEC 10.

I think I am running a phantasm 10/15/0/25/20 (GS/sword/pistol) right now. It works quite well, although I might go a more offensive phantasm/PU spec tonight.

I think our OP build atm revolves around the new heal combined with a hybrid of phantasm/PU.

Will tell you of results though.

ahuba.6430:

Immensus.9732:

I know that probably has been a post like that previously but dont get me wrong, downed state is very useful in Dungeon and generally PvE and in many occasions in WvW, but is completely annoying and useless in PvP. For example something that happened to everyone, you were dueling someone and you beat him while he`s on downed state you are trying to finish him and someone else takes advantage of your low health and defeats you and you neither got a kill or had the time to escape because you were busy FINISHING THE PREVIOUS PLAYER!!! i mean what??? and thats just one example of why downed state doesnt have place to an intense game feature such as PvP! Anet if you want your game to have at least a chance in Esports little things like that, have to change!

Never gonna happen. Downed state is fine. This is a team game and you don’t defeat an opponent until you stomp them. Until you haven’t done that, there will be a chance that a team mate will come and turn the fight around.

Downed state demands quick and smart thinking in team fights and it’s an integral part of gw2. I suggest you get used to downed state and understand the great plays that can be made with it.

clint.5681:

Down state is stupid in pvp, when some dies they should be dead unless your teammate has a res signet.

When you are in down state you aren’t dead yet.

Downed state is fine? Do you understand game mechanics?

Let me make this easy for everyone. In dodgeball, if you catch the other player’s ball, you get to bring 1 person back into the game.

The way downed state currently works in GW2 is that when you catch the other player’s ball (meaning you stomp someone) you can technically bring back the ENTIRE TEAM

That is not fair, and should be limited to 1 res, not the 4-5 who tagged him.

The way it currently plays is BEYOND broken.

Flash.6912:

The leader board doesn’t matter anymore. Lot of high rankers drop down because of influx pvers come for achievements and ruin their rating. The only matter now is win the esport tournaments $, that is what good players at now.

this is totally true

I never really did PVE before, any suggestions?

I think 10 is still too low. Should be 15 or 20 to be honest.

15 probs though.

wait can someone explain? these are not just unlocked already? I have to PVE for them?

This just goes to show how broken spvp is at the moment. 40% of the tourney was the easiest class in the game, and one of the most OP atm.

Cool beans man.

sticky this

/15char

pablauto.4210:

Arena net fix the matchmaking.
The ranked pvp is not fun. (not just ranked)

Look the players LV no balance at all.

This fight was not 5vs4 just took me a while to take print.

This is what I am talking about How do things like this make it out of the beta testing stage?

They talk about the future to change yellow priorities, when we have RED priorities that need to be looked at first! These things should have been fixed in the BETA lol.

-1 game mode
-4v5/afk
-Skyhammer farming <—- Thought people will get banned with how quick your posts get removed/edited/infracted here on forums lol
-improper class balance (mostly core mechanic issues like conditions for example)
-nothing to make it competitive
-no rewards
-no reason to play/wait for you any longer

Patience is a virtue, but if I order a hamburger, I don’t expect the restaurant to serve me 2 buns and say, you need to wait a year for the meat, but it will be great!

^ I walk out of that restaurant, leave a 1 star rating on Yelp reviews, and never return again, while also asking for my money back. I also tell my friends about the experience

Hmm I wonder what I would tell them…

Oraith.1732:

Bsgapollo.5364:

lol what, no. Some people don’t have the time to play with a team due work or school. People should be rewarded the same for winning a match, regardless if it’s solo or in a team.

So people who organize and go against harder teams should be rewarded the same as people who aren’t organized and go against easier teams?

You are being subjective. Some SOLOq teams are extremely good and would wipe the floor against other “supposed high rated” tpvp teams, you can’t assume causation = correlation.

The only thing tpvp has over soloq is most likely some sort of teamspeak program allowing more coordinated plays, that is all. Tpvp def has an edge based on that, but a high rated solo q vs a high rated tpvp would not be a 500-0 win or loss, it would actually still be a close game.

I was expecting a little more. Giving us a draft of features that should have been developed in Beta, and implemented over a year ago is a step in the right direction, but I think it happened too late. I can’t even log for dailies anymore.

4v5, AFKs, and other things that can clearly be copied/solved from other games to give us an interim solution has not been done either :\

I feel like the direction of this game is going in too many directions, but with a low player base (and fading fast), regardless of how good the game is…kills it for me. You can’t ask me to wait like a dramatic girlfriend, I already have one of those

I love you GW2, but I think I am throwing in the towel.

I believe even in WoW you would gain/lose even if you logged. I think it should be here too.

This would do way more good than harm.

Qaelyn.7612:

The attitude expressed in this thread that most players are stupid and/or bad at the game is part of why sPVP is underpopulated.

I think you clearly didn’t comprehend this thread than lol

Subdue.5479:

I don’t get it. Why in the world would you want balance to take -longer- to achieve? There are a limited number of classes with a limited number of abilities available to each. Eventually pvp will reach a point where each class is about equally balanced. Personally, I see every class represented right now, though some more than others, and I think that’s a good sign. It means game balance is moving in the right direction. Why would you want to slow that down?

I want balance to be instant, everyone does. For you to infer that I don’t want that means you can’t comprehend my posts. Please re-read and digest information before trying to call me out for something I didn’t say

*To ganky~ 99% of the population were not going to re-roll after they achieved 5/5 of their sets…in this game they do Re-rolling in S3 for resto druids occurred because of how sick they did in S2. They didn’t re-roll DURING S2. Most of them at least…

I am simply saying that the sooner you balance the classes properly, the sooner everything in this game will fall into place.

*btw there is no equal class rep at this point. Let us not forget that no ele’s were harmed during PAX.

milo.6942:

Your assessment is probably correct. Putting a barrier to class reroll would make poor balance less of an issue. But that is really a bad way to go for pvp.

This is a selling point of GW2. No gear treadmill etc. In wow, if warriors were nerfed, and you were a warrior, you simply switched to the most viable spec you had, and HOPED others would actually play with you (probably in 5v5).

In this game, if you get screwed, you simply re-roll and faceroll with the new FOTM class literally a minute later.

Conditions OP? Let’s play classes that allow insane DPS with them (necro/engi/ranger)

Tank allowed 50% crit? Let’s play warriors

Healing signet OP? Let’s play warriors

It simply allows US the end users to AMPLIFY the imba in game, and much quickly before. WoW never had to deal with this, and I kind of liked it that way.

In GW2 the meta can literally shift overnight.

It is a double edged blade, but can be fixed by simply putting more effort into class balance. When you can’t amplify glaring mistakes, you can actually have a better, balanced time for all.

You need to start with the basics first mang.

Grackleflint.4956:

It’s a bad thing. In the OPs scenario, you have to grind gear and spend many hours leveling to play the FOTM at the highest competitive level. In GW2 they are constantly chasing game balance due to the way ppl pile into a FOTM profession. In WoW if a class was some kittenty FOTM then ppl would counter it through trial and error, and the kittenty FOTM abuser would be in their own personal hell until balance swung another way.

Winner winner chicken dinner

Excalibur.9748:

It’s actually a good thing imo. Because then it becomes really obvious who the OP one is when any Joe Schmo can roll one and find out for themself in a minute. I’d rather it be this way tbh.

Then again, it’s kinda funny a mesmer make this topic because all the warriors say “any decent mesmer crush them in 1v1”, it’s probably their only counter right now.

This is not a warrior rant, you are missing the picture. Yes, I crush warriors 1v1, but that is besides the point. Re-read what I posted. I simply used warriors as everyone whines about them right now haha.

Unlike in other games, where you are tied to your character because you cannot reset, or start from max lvl with top tier items, the pvp in this game is always going to be bad.

Why might you ask? Because if there is a FOTM class that is just crazy good, I can simply roll one in about 1 minute and exponentially make the problem worse. (Warriors atm)

In WoW, I could not re-roll my lvl 70 because it would take too long, then I would have to grind some gear for him etc. In this game, there is no penalty to creating a new class.

When I say you can literally add fuel to the fire, I mean INSTANTLY.

I have never seen a game where FOTM classes are so rampant in the pvp scene before, but this is due to the nature of guild wars, and leads to the next fact

balance is even MORE critical in this game than others

Why might you ask? Because if classes are not balanced, then you are adding a finer fuel to the same fire we just spoke about. If classes were balanced in the first place, there would be no fire to add fuel to. Any imba issues are amplified when more people can easily jump to the class and create an even bigger fire…

Fix the balance, and you drastically fix this game. The game is extra leveraged right now, so if you fix the basics, the rest will fix itself.

Fearception is still my favorite and IMO most funny to watch.

Why are you posting a tutorial on how to be a warrior? Was looking for pro advice mang.

#esports

This patch is not enough to bring players back, period.

Inverted.7439:

They’ve stated many times before that they’ll be showing what kind of reward systems they’re going to implement this December which is a arms reach away. Why are you still QQ’ing? Just lost a tPvP game i’m assuming.

Still QQing? From what? This game is terrible, and everyone admits it. It just surprises me that it took so long to produce not even the bare minimum yet. It is like calling WSG/AB/EOTS in WoW “esports.” Are you kidding?

No, I just mean this in general, I don’t play either solo or tpvp right now until it gets fixed, but I am about to leave the game because there is just nobody left to play with.

What I am saying is this, I used to and loved playing Diablo 2. The PVP population of this game, which is 1 year old, is just slightly better than that game at the moment IMO. Diablo 2 is about to be 14 years old…

It is sad, when you join pubs (hotjoins) and see the same people all the time. I can do that in Diablo 2, but it is a 14 year old game and is understandable.

Is GW2 already dead in that sense?

Since there are no rewards, what is the incentive to coordinate a 5 man team vs other people, when you can just play YOLOQ instead?

Why try to schedule practice times etc. Most good teams/players have quit or disbanded.

For a game that is literally brand new, the player base for PvP is awful….

Discuss.

#esportslol

Laserbolt.6731:

I notice two things on the soloQ leaderboard 24 hours after the reset:

1) The win-loss ratios are all in the 55% to 45% range with almost none 70% or higher.

2) I find almost none of the old “Top 100” players on the board.

I am not sure that waiting for MMRs to “settle” is going to be all that helpful for them, if they are waiting for that. They will still be placed on teams with low players, because of the low PvP population.

I have been saying this for months, nobody ever respected rank on these boards due to a BROKEN system. Then the same players had the audacity to ask for rewards? LOL.

I bet half of the top 100% are actually garbage, 25% are good, and 25% are actually very good.

Sadly, there is nobody who really plays GW2 anymore… I started playing Diablo 2 pvp again because this game simply doesn’t have a good population anymore.

You know it is bad when you random queue in hotjoin the same people over and over again. This is a BRAND new game, this should not be happening.

I can understand seeing the same players in pubs in Diablo 2, but it is a 12 year old dead game, but this is flat out sad.

Teutos.8620:

Divinity.8041:

Yes, rank on SoloQ is based 100% on skill, nothing else. Absolutely nothing else besides player skill determines your rank on SoloQ. I could not have said it any better!

Not problem! I’m very please to help you formulate your thoughts!

If you need some tipps, how to be more successful in TPvP, just contact me ingame, and I’ll be pleased to help you as well! Till then just try to look at the minimap, and asign keybindings to your skills! And please don’t use the screen keyboard anymore!

Stop trolling my thread with incoherent and incompetent information. Did I attempt to even play SoloQ competitively? Can you do ANYTHING in this game competitively? You keep thinking like SoloQ rank means something buddy. It won’t after this reset, because systemically it is still broken. What you just said is like saying I didn’t see you drive the full 10 mile course, in a car that is 50% built. Nice try though.

Are you working for ANET?

#esports

Teutos.8620:

Yeah, ofc it is the systems fault, that you were not in the top 1000.

When you are competing in a marathon, you are out of breath, you can not run further, but the other athletes are just running and running, increasing the distance, you know, that you are just worse.
In video games everyone watches the other player clicking and pushing buttons and thinking “Hey, I can do that too! I deserve to be on top!”. I tell you what, there is a difference between the player skill, and it is not the systems fault.

Yes, rank on SoloQ is based 100% on skill, nothing else. Absolutely nothing else besides player skill determines your rank on SoloQ. I could not have said it any better!

clint.5681:

I love how active the devs are in this subforum even tho we can be a bunch of kittens at times lol.

This wasn’t the case at all, until the PAX conspiracy happened, and everyone turned on devs and ANET hardcore haha.

Not to mention top players were quitting on a daily basis. They better be here otherwise this game really is gone..

Can you guys stop complaining about not getting rewarded for abusing a broken system? Why would you want to get rewarded for something that nobody cared or actually respected?

Maybe because America is all about entitlement, and “everyone” deserves an award.

This ladder was not built on merit (syncing, bad mmr, no decay etc.), and the SYSTEM itself is flawed.

This is like asking Ivy league colleges to accept your bogus perfect SAT score to get into their prestigious institution, while Harvard knowing the test was bogus…

Let’s use some common sense here, and try to get somewhere in a working system.

While the system doesn’t address 4v5, afk, and other things…it is better than before.

This is going to sound really stupid, but how do I join solo? It is a shame anet doesn’t show you this. Do I hit submit after it is just me in the roster? Or do I hit look for party or something?

This is what soloq is right now. I prefer the old way. I hate starting a match seeing 3 of my teammates in STARTER gear.

What happens at the end?

A lvl 1 who scored 5 points the whole match (?)
A lvl 3 who scored 10 points
A lvl 9 who scored 20 points

Can you stop this? Please make the entry to PVP much lower for newer players, or put a rank limit on it.

Less than 15-20 cannot enter?

Zeon.8239:

PU condi mesmer with scepter/torch is one of the best and cheesiest 1v1 builds in the game currently while still having team support, and you want to improve it?

I think the rate of condition application is fine right now.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

Scepter is TERRIBLE.

Make it able to save builds, with armor and sigils and everything, that would be disgustingly awesome

make a colosseum to duel in 1v1 or 2v2

look at conditions

Narcarsis.5739:

It still amazes me that this guy is complaining about thief. A two year old chimpanzee can smash his hands on his keys as a DPS guardian and kill any glass thief in the game. If he cannot then I have no words.

Thought you quit?

Daishi.6027:

Valentin.2073:

i once had a match with 4 ele’s on my team. it wasn’t that bad. we almost won. i think we could have won the match if there were only 3 eles and there was another tanky profession on the team. i played as a spirit ranger on that match, btw.

Sounds like solo spirit ranger with 4 extra playable spirits.

lmao irl

ronpierce.2760:

MM is a top contender for 1v1. (Minion Master). However MM DOES have a high skill cap (and high skill floor, so they’re easy to be at least decent with even if you’re not too good.) If you get really good at avoiding CC to make up for your lack of CC breakers, and get really good at locking down enemies so your minions can deal damage, and you actually attack and don’t expect them to win it for you, MM can be pretty potent 1v1 and 2v2. Anything higher than that, AOE starts to take its toll though.

This is the person who ran petting zoo last 2v2 tourney with a spirit ranger. I think even he will agree the 8x +pets and two human players gave AI and particle effect advantage on its own. It was a terrible and confusing match to watch.

It is to learn BASIC pvp functions, like call target, understanding their skills etc. At least a lvl 10-15 is going to how to function a little bit and not hinder their team too badly.

1? NO cigar.

Like the other night I was 1v2ing a guardian and a necro on my mesmer…and won? At the end of the match, they were both < 5.

I was like, kitten I can defend mid solo, and had the other 4 members take the other points for a tri cap win.

Things like this are the new strategy!