Guild Wars 2

This is a joke right? I mean… it has to be.

/a ranger

Batlav.6318:

Cloud.7613:

Batlav.6318:

try elementalist and complain about rangers aftet that

Actually, this is a false example. For one reason and one reason only, elemenalist’s have a place on the battlefield, their AoE is insane. Rangers aren’t good at anything, want range? roll thief/warrior and that’s the only thing rangers are meant to excel at and they don’t even do that. Friend has an elementalist, while I’m complaining about the lack of DPS I’m doing, he’s loving killing people on castle walls, so yeah no.

if rangers aren’t good at anything than i must be playing a different game

Leogolas ele struggles at killing 4 mobs so if u talk about pvp unless they are afk or complete idiots i dont see how it can happen
Ele can do something only with help other than that it is only runing around not to die
any other class can do better both solo and in group for pvp

I really want to argue with you but I have no kitten idea what you’re saying

Hahahaha. Yeah, but that would require an accurate tooltip which goes against the theme of the game.

On the front page it pops up and says something along the line that the patch is maintenance only, no content.

You’re doing okay and enjoying it because you’re specced to pet dps and survivability. I’m assuming you have the 30% swiftness for your pet which is why you’re okay with the pet dps. I think this is now the only currently viable build.

In reality a ranger should be able to be dps (crits and/or conditions), support (spirits or traps), and control (cc and traps).

I think traps and pet build (only w/ the 30% mov increase) is viable now.

I saw a really cool video of a dual pistol theif that was owning people 1v3 & 1v4 (even mesmers and other theifs).

It seems if you pair this with stealth you have tons of kiting/survivability skills along w/ decent damage.

That said I still have absolutely no clue what weapons I’ll use on my theif (I love the sword, daggers, pistols, and sbow)

I took my level 10 warrior to WvW and owned more people and survived longer than my 80 ranger.

I used the rifle until I saw somebody running away (which a lot did). switch to GW, charge, immoblize with bolas, 100B. 60% of the time it worked everytime.

I have no clue how they hold up in sPvP

@ Wulfrium

You don’t play a ranger so stop talking like you’re an expert. I don’t want to hear about your friend in tpvp.

The ranger community is angry because they ninja nerfed a made-up glitch (even though we have a huge bug list that hasn’t been touched) to nerf the sbow for being played the way we are forced to play.

I would much rather be a GS/longbow ranger but they nerfed those and forced all players into a sbow + warhorn/axe.

Namu.5712:

Ethics.4519:

I’ll see you around in the warrior or theif forums my friend. Stay classy

Because that response was classy and totally called for right?

Are you butthurt or something? Don’t take your anger out on me.

I have a ranger, haven’t played since a couple of days after the nerf. I now have a warrior and theif and I plan to make the theif my mine because of the stealth abilities. I think your sarcasm meter was off.

I’m 24 and enjoy the game. It has a lot of faults but it’s still young so I’m giving it time. My gf is 21 and enjoys the game as well.

I think, in general, the older people have less time to play and therefore playing 2 hours a day keeps them entertained. The younger people (15/16) have a lot more time for video games and need a game that gives 10+ hours of entertainment a day.

That’s a huge generalization, but I think it holds true.

I think it should be removed for PvP. I think it’s horrible that they get more health, then when come out of the state automatically have another health increase with a heal that’s cooled down.

Nothing irritates me more than going 1v1 and downing my opponent with 500/1000 hp left, have him down me, he pops back up and finishes me off.

I understand there is strategy to this and I can either stop attacking and let him down me so i can rally on him, or run away, heal, and come back to finish him off. But I think this is counter-intuitive and I really just don’t like it.

I’ll see you around in the warrior or theif forums my friend. Stay classy

Even though logging into these forums everyday really depresses me (only to be relieved by playing my new warrior & theif) I still do it hoping that Anet will make a change due to the 700+ posts that are probably 90/95% rage and disappointment.

I would look at the knight’s set. I believe that’s power + toughness. I don’t recall off hand if there is a toughness & precision. All stats are the same through sets, the rest is just looks.

Use the search option

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/What-class-to-swap-to-Now-that-ranger-Sucks/first#post440577

mesmer’s don’t need buffs. Leave the high dps to the classes that our inteneded for that. Stick to the confusion and evasion, that’s what mesmers do best (not at all saying they can’t hit)

GW2 is more casual oriented and I think most of those casuals just play a couple of hours in game. Also I think the forums are mostly negative because people who are unhappy or seeking answers come here. For most people, if you are satisfied in game you will just play and be satisfied.

I don’t think it is in the game yet. I believe that is why world transfers are still free.

I imagine they are still working out way to make sure people don’t switch servers to abuse ori nodes or other valuable farming nodes.

Right now I have two low level characters (along w/ my 80 ranger). I rolled a theif and warrior. I can’t really decide which one I’ll make my main, but I’m leaning towards theif as my gf is a warrior.

I love the rifle/GS combo. It’s exactly what the ranger should have been, with a bit more evading but less health/toughness.

I’m probably going to roll with a theif because I love the stealth mechanic. I can’t decide what’s the best weapon sets to roll with because they are all amazing but I love P/P, shortbow, and D/P so far.

If they fix some weapons for the ranger, or the pet AI, then maybe I’ll go back…. maaaaaybe.

Ravnodaus.5130:

Luriyu, you are totally right!

Ranger is completely fine. We just need to try different builds and find one that works. That’s what I did.

I went Deadly Arts and Critical Strikes and switched to a pair of pistols. My Ranger has never been stronger.

Lol love this

Durzlla.6295:

You do realize thieves are SUPPOSED to do more damage then a ranger right? As such if a hit actually collides with them they’re pretty much killed on the spot, this isn’t wow, not every prof is supposed to provide the same amount of damage/passive survivability/support/control as the others…

All classes should have equal abilities to play all of those. Rangers can’t DPS with the top dawgs because we get nerfed everywhere. Our pets suck so that ruins the class mechanic

We can’t support because our spirits die almost instantly. Our elites aren’t too bad, but they have a high cd so nobody really plays a class for the elites.

sbow and longbow are decent for control, when paired with traps (dare I say traps are the only good thing about rangers?) but both of those were nerfed hard.

Kasama.8941:

I think the problem is that people relied too much on shortbow spamming cake with quickness cream on top. And instead of trying to find a new build, it’s much easier to yell nerf. But when so many players complain about such a simply style of play getting taken away, then it’s a good indication that it was the right thing to do. It’s basically ArenaNets way of trying force a deeper build gameplay on the Ranger.

Yes, they should find a new build!

Switch to GS! Oh wait… no that was nerfed. It does low damage and puts you in the thick of things with medium armor

Okay fine, switch to Longbow! Oh wait, that was also nerfed. There are two decent skills, one that has a huge cooldown. Oh but you can just stand really far away! Oh wait, then everything is out of range or obstructed because they moved a step to the left

Well fine, switch to a sword. Dang… well that’s bugged. You get planted in place while using auto attack.

I guess you can still use the shortbow! Well, 2 is only good if you’re point blank. 3 does no damage…. 4 does no damage…. 5 does no damage.

I guess just use spirits! No wait, nerfed as well. They get 2 shotted and die instantly

Fine fine, just be a beastmaster! Well crap, can’t do that either! The pet misses 70% of the time on a moving target and has a huge casting animation with their f2 ability.

I have a thief and will be rolling a warrior shortly. I love the thief shortbow, I feel like it’s a lot more action packed than running to the side of somebody and spamming 1.

Also, with the double pistols, I like to hit them twice with the 2 skill to apply 10 stacks of vulnerability, then unload with the 3 skill.

Guys guys guys. Jeesh calm down, Let me explain to you what’s happening.

They are slowly and slowly killing the ranger class so that nobody with half a brain will play it anymore. Then, when the player base is about 3-5%, they will ban them all. Obviously they will all be bots since they don’t care about damage reduction and only care about the spamming of 1, reviving allies, and the half kitten pets.

Then they’ll buff the rangers back up and the bot problem is solved.

Okay. Official Response: “We secretly nerfed the ranger and lied to you. We forced you to use one weapon by nerfing all the others and using auto-attack because your other skills don’t do any damage…. but we don’t want you to play that way”

Aka: We don’t want you to play a ranger.

I try to play the annoying guy that you don’t really notice but slowsly dwindles down your hp while you’re focused on the warrior in your face. It really back fires when I pull a leeroy and charge in front of the zerge… only to realize they turned around.

!http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/28132924.jpg!

It’s sad generating memes is the only thing keeping me sane about this situation.

I’m with Levetty. The ranger is plagued with bugs (so are other classes) that are causing it to not fight as intended. There’s a huge list of bugs and Anet decides to add an (un)intentional nerf to fix a bug that was never seen on the bugs list?

All the community is asking is for somebody to say “No, the nerf is not intended, we are looking into it the situation” or “Yes, the nerf is intended, it will stay”

This is kinda sickened me to the ranger class because Anet obviously doesn’t care about this class. I know a lot of people are going to warrior rifle, but I’m starting to roll with the thief sbow and I like it a lot, double pistols are also fun

I agree, great idea. Anet has been using the stick a little bit too much and needs to start working with the carrot.

Your pet level is your level. It will change with the zone just like your level does.

Ditton.3149:

The problem is if its working as intended all his appearance or information would do is get him yelled at.

But that’s what we want to know. In the update it didn’t say it was a nerf, they said it was a band-aid fix for animation glitch (that nobody ever got).

If they intended the nerf, they should tell us so everybody who is already on the edge of moving to a different class (like myself) can go ahead and do so.

Boomstin.3460:

Why would the topic suggest it is a nerf? I thought they were just supposed to fix a glitch in the animation, that can’t affect damage output of a skill right ? :P

Welcome to the discussion….

For Faux Sake.8457:

@Ethics.4519

Just stop complaining about rangers being UP. You won’t get the best of all worlds from a single set of skills or armour build. You can’t do that with any profession. Want a Mary-Sue character? Go back to WoW and roll a deathknight.

It’s funny that you act like you know me so well. Don’t tell me to go back to WoW because I’ve been a die hard GW fan since the beginning. I’ve played 2 days of wow and absolutely hated it.

Rangers are UP because their unique distinction is the pet. The pet is horrible in PvP. It can’t attack moving targets and it’s skill takes forever. I’ll admit that having a ranger is nice for the longbow barrage on the wall in WvW, but I didn’t roll a ranger to stand on the wall all day and cast a skill with a very high cd.

sbow is really the only viable build for the ranger and all it has is the auto attack for damage. Yes you can use 2-5 in certain instances, but your damage dealer is the auto attack. That just got nerfed. Not because Anet wanted it nerfed, but because they are applying a stupid fix to glitch that barely anybody got anyways.

Aren’t we all using a computer to play?

Hickeroar.9734:

Back on topic though: I don’t even remotely think Rangers are underpowered in any way, even with this nerf. IMHO they’re one of the best classes in the game, and a minor nerf to firing rate is not enough to sway my opinion. You could probably argue that their fire rate was already too fast anyway.

Warrior troll? I don’t see how you could play ranger and not think they are UP. Unless you have a level 30 ranger that just PvEs.

@ Linsey

Can you comment if it’s the average spec of all 4 items, the lowest or the highest?

As in is it the same percentage if you use 2 rares, 2 exotics; 4 exotics; or 4 rares? Or even more if you use 3 level 75 rares and one level 80 exotic will it be the same % if you use 4 level 80 exotics?

I posted about this in the ranger bug list. The author said he didn’t know what I meant and was requesting a video of it happening.

Somebody said it happens to all range classes, but this hasn’t happened to my theif sbow or my ele at all. So, I’ll be staying away from the no-love ranger for awhile.

Jestunhi.7429:

TheZeus.8617:

LOL rangers complaining about there auto attack being longer.. and stacks not as high?! Seriously in PvP you guys have the most outright troll auto attack there is.. Just stand slight to side and back and stack the kitten out of bleeds… I wish they would nerf how fast you stack bleeds to be honest.. b/c a ranger can stay at a distance and bleed me but once my condition removals are gone I am toast.

You realise that all you have to do is stop running away and showing him your back?

The bleed is positional and only works from the side & back.

On top of that you can quickly press strafe left/ strafe right so barely any of our arrows hit and our pet is too dumbfounded to attack.

Lol @ OP. It seems everybody is missing the point of your posts… or just flat out not reading it.

I agree with you. However I think MF should be thrown out all together, but that is unrelated. If they plan to keep MF in, then yes, they should allow you to have it with all available stats and not force you to be a glass cannon w/ MF.

I think Equalizer pretty much summed it up, I would quote him with the forum if it were actually working. “What kind of test you guys do, that couldn’t see the SB got broken, and the players instantly pick i up?”

This was a stupid band-aid fix to a problem they were too lazy to actually fix. Much like other people have said, I never encountered this problem at all (I have a level 80 ranger that is my main… but not for long). Not to mention other people have already said the 40ms is about a 10% damage reduction, and that’s IF it actually were a 40ms reduction.

Dante Dragonhand.2538:

Wow they changed literally like nothing.
•Crossfire: Increased casting time by 40 milliseconds.
Quit crying, those of us who want to play longbow are forced into shortbow or another class, and its still fine, literally you cant tell a difference. If you say you can then Im calling BS.

Read up before you post about something you know nothing about. Just because they say they changed it by 40 milliseconds doesn’t actually mean that’s what happened.

You should probably be careful posting this as they don’t allow 3rd party fov software (which has been stated on here a lot)

They already said they have heard the suggestions but will not touch fov (at least not now) as this game is about position and knowing your surroundings.

In a certain MMO if you died and didn’t get revived (or paid for an expensive $$ res rune) your character would be deleted forever and would cost $70 to get it back.

I’m okay spending 5s every time I die…

Interested in the game but getting very upset with the decisions they are making. It’s generally not a good idea to nerf the lowest dps class with a band-aid fix.

The bottom line is this… if the class were working as intended, this thread wouldn’t exist. However with how much the pet sucks, it makes the ranger pointless. What other class unique options are bugged as hard as the ranger’s pet?

Add on the “40 millisecond” band-aid fix and well… the ranger is pretty useless.

I haven’t played yet but I’ve been reading all the comments.

I almost cried a little watching your video. If they have the intention to give 2-5 more damage (or increase all damage on the longbow) then I would be okay with this change.

However as of right now, I plan to focus on my ele and thief, leaving my ranger on the backburner.

kitten? I dont even…. ugh.

Lol, props for staying professional Jeffrey.

Meh!I can’t beat this storyline! Meh! Make it easier! Argh! I want the devs to spend countless hours dumbing down the AI so I don’t have to think! Meh!

Great idea. I very much enjoy this. That way the difficulty of crafting a higher level doesn’t have to require a jump from 5 to 8 per say, but a jump from needing 2 different items to 3 different items

I just used 50 crafting my mystic shortbow ( loved the look). I believe it sells for around 4g on trading post. You could make your own mystic weapons or make a greatsword and post it up on the tp.