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Hmm… good points skcamow. Pyro’s immortal build was what sort of inspired this new take on Retaliation actually, so I’ll have to have a better look at his playstyle guide for it.

My biggest concern is still being able to do damage. Thus, not relying fully on Retaliation to kill themselves. If people are smart enough and taking Retaliation damage too much, I don’t want them to be able to just stop attacking and walk away, and have me do nothing to chase them. (PU Condi’s problem sometimes.)

What about something like this then:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fhAQNAsdWl0npStlpxPNcrVSrhYqXn6Iq7euMpCUqNA-TFSBABBu/gRK/wR9HEM/JhSQNOCA5pJAgDBgogyI-w

It keeps mimic for the block on retaliation but also could take advantage of the Temp curtain leap combo that I wasn’t aware of. While also giving me good damage shatters (albeit low crit) to still dish out some damage.

I thought about Signet of Inspiration but didn’t like the long CD/randomness of buffs.

I could Chaos Storm my iDefender in hopes it gets Retal as well, for double retal damage when it’s up.

I see your point, but the problem with knocking Illusions to 2, is that all your shatters suddenly have much longer cooldowns, and do less for you. Thus making Bountiful Disillusionment kind of a waste.

We could say it’s a waste anyways and the points are better spent elsewhere, but then we’ve just come full circle to some other build that people already use/know works. Which is boring, and what I’m avoiding. I want new playstyle, mechanics.

Dropping maybe 2 from Illusions and using Heals remove condi, plus phantasms have Ret as well might be a good idea. I lose might on shatter and some CD reduction/IP.

Updated Build due to feedback: http://tinyurl.com/mecnsa5

So I had this idea. And even though it got nerfed a little in the April patch, I still wanted to throw something together with it and see what people though, maybe try it out and see how effective it was. Retaliation, that is.

I’m currently playing a Gs+Sw/Sw Shatter build, which is pretty fun. I’ve played Mesmer since the game came out, and I still enjoy it. Lots of varying playstyles. I’ve been getting kind of bored with just Shatter spam lately though, and I WvW a LOT, and know Retaliation is the bane of a lot of people’s builds, especially in WvW. So I came up with this:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fhAQJARWl0npRtlpxPNcrNiuBZ6K0hPi6h8jlUqAA-TVSBABBu/gRK/wR9HEM/JhSwFuAAa8EAA4QAknuARBlRA-w

The idea is basically: 100% Retaliation uptime through a few different means. Those being:

- Mind Wrack (4.25 seconds)
- Confusing Cry (7.25 seconds)
- Mimic (after absorbing, this blocks all attacks, and you gain 4.25 seconds for each Block, to a maximum of 5 duration stacks. So basically until Mimic is up again)
- Chaos Storm (4.25 seconds – finally you don’t have to be upset when swiftness doesn’t proc)

While I know Retaliation just got nerfed, and does 66% of it’s normal damage in PvP/WvW, with around 2200 Power with this gear, and assuming no stacks of Might (highly unlikely), it’s still going to hit between 250-300 damage. That’s still pretty significant.

Now, the kicker here is that the build doesn’t rely on Retaliation. It plays very much like a normal Shatter build, just without Deceptive Evasion. You’ve got double reduced CD on staff clones, and a 6.5 second Mirror Blade though, so I don’t see it being too slow to Shatter. With the Toughness/Vit on it, it’s a pretty tanky as hell build, that anyone is going to have a tough time chewing through, and thus, doing even more damage to themselves in the process.

The only downfall right now is it has absolutely 0 condition removal. The fix for this, of course, is to take the 2 points for block ret and move it into curing conditions on healing. Easy fix, but you lose that Mimic Ret boost. Even without that though, I still think the uptime is pretty reliable.

Is Retaliation still enough of a force to cause people to crumble before you if they can’t 1-2 shot you? We also have confusion stacks to take into consideration with these shatters too. They’re nothing to call home about, but 100 damage per stack is still significant. With a few confusion stacks and ret up, they’re doing upwards of 500 damage PER HIT to themselves.

Thoughts? Still tweaking ideas to input is appreciated.

The way that I assume the game is programmed, this would mean that every single illusion you create has to recall a saved variable of every piece of armor you are wearing. If you swap weapons, it would have to resave that variable, and be specific to ONLY your character, for each and every Mesmer on any server.

There is almost certainly no way to just fix this. This would require substantial re-coding of the way that Illusions are even created.

I’ve been playing with the 4/4/0/0/6 setup in my original post for a bit, and I have to say it’s really amazing. I don’t feel squishy, and as such, I don’t act squishy. I can dive into zergs and generally be alright if I time some things properly.

Diving into an oncoming zerg in WvW, starting with a 4.75 second Mirror Blade, iZerker, weapon swapping to iLeap someone and Mind Wrack+ Blurred frenzy everyone running through me is INSANE Fun.

Agreed with Ross, will really depend on how you gear/rune/sigil and what slots you are taking. However, I had a bit of a grin at “condition PU shatter build”. That’s almost literally every mechanic a Mesmer has, wrapped into one build. Which means you are spreading yourself out WAY too much, and will just be a “Jack of all Trades”, or good at nothing.

If you are going PU, don’t go Shatter. I’ve yet to see/create an effective Shatter PU build that actually does damage. 6 traits to get PU always seems like such a waste to me though.

trooper.2650:

@OP Can you read my mind? I wanted to open a 3D on this topic but I had other priorities, and now I see your post… you saved me a lot ot time

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I was looking at your varaint, Eucalyptus. How does it play compared to your condi build? What are the pros and cons?

Hey man, sorry late reply – long day at work.

When I was playing with my PU Power build above the biggest playstyle difference I found, that a few others have mentioned, is it was far less “Passive”. If I wanted something to happen, I had to make it happen. Whereas with Staff out, you can basically use some skills, dodge a few times, and hope the person you’re fighting is silly enough to sit in the middle of 4x bouncing staff attacks and die. Some people like this playstyle, some people don’t.

I didn’t actually play the PU Power style very long, because I found it just made me want to be a Shatter mesmer again. Which is what I’ve done actually. I’m now rolling a 4/4/0/0/6 Shatter, but with full Soldier’s gear and both GS and Sw/Sw cooldown traits. The clone spam is ridiculous, the power is ridiculous, and to be honest the survivability is still pretty high due to such low CD on skills like Blurred Frenzy and Sword block. On top of that I still run Decoy/Blink/Condi Removal mantra. Anyways, that’s a different story.

TL;DR – As people have said, Power is a lot more of an active playstyle with more chase potential, but Staff definitely takes the cake in “long term” fights, because really the longer the fight goes, the higher the advantage is in your favor usually.

I did humor the idea of going 2/4/2/0/6, and dropping Greatsword Training to pick up the 3% damage reduction per clone. The build has a ton of clone spam potential to shatter, with short CD’s, so might be worth trying if I find I’m dying fast.

Dat 4.5 second Mirror Blade though…

Does anyone play a build similar to the one below, where you wear all Soldiers, have crazy reduced Cooldowns, and just spam Shatter to your hearts content? 11.5 seconds on Mind Wrack with such high power sounds pretty freaking awesome.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fhAQNAR8clknpRtlpxINcrNSqxg6verNSmQAl8kuB-TlCBABCu/wRK9yR9HAuIAZpMwjHAQCm+mQJIDHBA90NIKoMC-w

My only question really is, is it tanky enough? Decoy helps, sure, but you have no Chaos Armor, No PU and minimal condition removal.

Anyone play a straight In-Your-Face Sword Shatter like this?

Someone on this forum mentioned they got a few hundred tokens somehow just being in the Cliffs, presumably not doing anything.

Anyone care to elaborate if there is a way to get tokens while semi-afk? I leave my laptop running at work and wouldn’t mind a few extra tokens…

For those saying Power… Does my build linked in the original post as my Power PU Build look like a decent setup? I worry about not having enough Power, but it’s got some good Might stacking potential to make up for that. A lot of Might stacking actually…

I think I’m just too comfortable being an invincible staff user….

People who have played both with similar trait setups… Do you find Greatsword / Sw+T has as good of survivability? Particularly with WvW Zergs? I travel in big groups a lot.

I know that. But the Four Winds Festival has a lot of older skins re-obtainable doesn’kitten Was the Dragon Bash something completely different on it’s own?

I assume the answer to my question is No based on your reply?

I haven’t really been doing the event stuff yet as I’m working a lot… but wanted to check with anyone if you could get the Dragon Wings back skin through the new Festival of the Four Winds? I wasn’t playing at the time of the Dragon Wings event due to a break, and I’d really like to get it for my Mesmer…

If they ignore me and jump around, they’re going to meet a pretty quick death. Conditions stack up fast with 3x Staff clones and me overwriting them for bleed/confusion. The thing with Condi is they can run away easier.

Certainly Blink/Chaos Storm/Phase Retreat helps. But you do lose the Crippling Phantasm, knockback and iLeap immob yeah…

Edit: After analyzing what I gain, and what I lose… I think I’m still gonna go with my PU Condi build. The survivability in Zergs is just insane. I don’t roam solo a whole lot, so I don’t really need to catch anyone. If they want to run, so be it. They aren’t going to kill me though if they stick around.

Hey guys,

So I’m trying to decide between using my PU Power build or my PU Condi build. I know both are relatively viable/meta at the moment, or at least, slight variations of them, so I’m wondering what people like/dislike about being Power vs. Condi. I mostly play just WvW, and some PvE to farm/when I’m bored.

PU Power Builld

PU Condi Build

I was in a crazy 3x Lord SM Battle last night that was just huge mayhem between all 3 servers, and the guild lord resurrected 3 times. I was using my PU Condi and didn’t die once. I was invincible. I’m wondering if that same sort of survivability is possible with my PU Power variation, because you lose a lot of potential at gaining Chaos Armor.

Let me know why you like Power vs. Condi, and also any comments on the builds. Thanks!

RedCobra.7693:

Ive currently been playing a burst condition shatter build in spvp and im finding it extremely powerful, its quite good to have a condition build with the mesmer that doesnt rely on your opponent attacking you

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fhAQNArfWlsnpBtFpxRNcrNitBdyakDUPkqsySGghB-TJRFwAd2fAwTAIaZAEnCAA

I’ve tried something similar in the past…. and 4s of Torment doesn’t really scream “burst”.

I’m definitely open to a lot of build ideas right now. Just came back from a year break and am trying to find my niche as a Mesmer again. To be honest I like the Staff because of it’s survivability, and because I find Power classes to be somewhat boring to play. I want to see numbers flying off the mobs.

However, a Retaliation/Reflection focused Power build would be a bit different, and a lot more fun. I don’t like the idea of being super squishy, that’s why I’m avoiding just rolling the meta Power Shatter. I find it boring, and die too often in zergs.

Will have a look at your posted suggestions/build and reply back in a bit! At work haha.

Edit: I think I’d be more inclined to go with something like a Never-Shatter Condition build like this:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fhEQNAW7flknpUtlpxVNcrNSpxY2cOikBcQZHpcA-T1yCABOcBAgQJIAPAgjPIA7t/QTK9uU9nCM9JxRAILlB6pbQUQaE-w

But I guess I just feel like it doesn’t have enough damage potential. Maybe I’m under estimating Bleed/Burn stacks from Staff clones. It’s still quite Tanky I imagine… and has the added bonus of “tagging” potential in huge WvW fights. Definitely a much more reliable Solo/Small group roaming build as well.

Hmm… some good suggestions Sinaya. I’ve noticed that while Confusion is not really that great from shattering, the Glamour/Confusion in zerg fights really helps me feel useful at the start of a big push, or in tight areas where I can drop Feedback/Null Field and watch people explode. I agree conditions aren’t great in huge zergs, but because confusion doesn’t work in the same general manner as other conditions, and it’s very short term, and people are always spamming things in zergs, I find it pretty useful.

If I were to change the build drastically, I think I’d still want to hold on to that Confusion on Glamour. I’d be willing to negotiate the Torment Shatter maybe, but then it’s just another basic Condition Bunker build, really.

I actually am wearing full exotic Rabid with the build right now, Dire is just something I’d like to work towards.

While the Focus isn’t really all that useful, I agree, the reflect is really nice to have for zergs and on walls.

I wonder if there’s a way to shift my builds Confusion focus, to a more Reflect/Retaliation + generic condition focus? Since Confusion is lacking so much.

Any ideas on how to do that? Love discussing this with other people, as I can’t always see the bigger picture.

Ahhh…. well that makes more sense. Good to know, thanks.

Edit: So THIS is the “Confusion Nerf” everyone talked about for the year I didn’t play.

I’m not sure if this is common knowledge, but I was quite surprised to find out tonight that the Confusion damage shown on the tooltip on gw2skills.net build calculator, appears to be exactly half of what the actual damage is for in-game Confusion.

Illustrated Here: http://oi59.tinypic.com/o8uddw.jpg

The picture shows my build on gw2skills.net, with 1527 Condition damage doing 180 Confusion damage. However, with that same build/gear in-game, it shows 1604 Condition damage (I had Might I think?) doing 371 Confusion damage with 1 stack. Or, as mentioned above, almost exactly double what the calculator shows.

This is a pretty significant thing to know when attempting to make a Condition build viable like I’ve been doing the past week. I didn’t check if the Torment damage was also halved/different, although it seems to be displaying what I would imagine is more accurate. This makes a 3 clone Cry of Frustration suddenly make them hit themselves for 2200+ damage, instead of barely 1000, with my gear at least. That’s HUGE.

Were others aware of this?

Sigil of Fire is good for AOE open world stuff if you are power.

Sigil of Earth (bleed on crit) works well if you have 50-60% crit chance, as your main attack does 3 attacks, giving you a few tries to apply it. I think it has a 2 second ICD.

Sigil of Bloodlust, the +10 power per kill, comes in handy, although you can usually put this on a weapon swap that you don’t use as often if GS is your “Main” weapon.

As a Mesmer, if you’re running a shatter build/rely on producing clones a lot, Sigil of Energy on both weapon swaps is incredibly valuable too.

Potentially yeah. The idea is to use it on rapid-fire type attacks, or in large WvW zergs from/onto walls, where people have no choice but to shoot projectiles sometimes. The bubble is actually a fair bit bigger than you might think and often hard to get out of, pending the situation. Even if it does no damage, in WvW if a zerg isn’t organized, it works as a good means to make them spread out when they all try to get out of it in different directions.

It’s also incredibly useful in a lot of dungeons (Arah comes to mind) to reflect certain mobs/boss abilities (sometimes for near insta kills). It’s actually a pretty fun skill, I have a hard time taking it off my bar most times.

Think of it in reverse.

The Feedback bubble gets put ON something. And anything inside the Bubble, while shooting projectiles, get’s the projectiles reflected back to them. So they can’t shoot out of it. But you can still shoot into it.

It doesn’t really make sense logistically, but that’s how it works.

The problem with this suggestion is that it only fixes the game for people who want to roll the new class.

I really like their updates. A new class would be cool. But I also want them to work harder on modifying the current classes to have better mechanics.

Hmm good call StinVec, thanks. Maybe I can jump in for a few Jormag kills throughout the day then as well!

Thanks

Hey guys,

So this question might seem a little sketchy and sound like I’m trying to bot or something, but try not to assume that right away please.

I’m looking for an easily campable Champion/Event that I can make some decent money/drops at, without really having to move. I’m thinking something like a popular Champ in one of the “Train” zones that I can sit afk at until it spawns, hit it a bunch, collect loot, rinse repeat.

I’m only about 200g short of my Legendary, but work in the Visual Effects industry and have been working 12 hour days, 6 days a week, so don’t really have much time to play lately. I bring my laptop to work to have music/movies playing, so I’m thinking maybe I can just sit my toon at the aforementioned spot, and hop in on the kill of the Champion when the Train comes around to get it for some at least minor progress on my farm. I don’t believe sitting afk is against the EULA, correct?

Anyone got a good spot that would work for this? I’m thinking like the Boar spawn in Queensdale, or something similar where I won’t be attacked all the time so I don’t have to constantly watch my screen until a mass of people appear.

Cheers, sorry if it sounds sketchy. I’m so close!

Run while you still can.

I guess I just find Power Shatter less effective because I run with somewhat organized zergs, but often pugs, so the reliance on people doing good things is limited, and I end up dying too fast.

I was looking for a good “Bunker” Zerg build that has the ability to effect the entire enemy zerg somehow (confusion via glamours, feedback, reflect focus). I do agree that while the Meta Shatter build probably performs better in ideal circumstances, I think clones just die way too fast to rely on them that much.

With this build I feel like Shatters are a support damage to the Glamour/Feedback/Reflect. If I run into a 1v1, or less than 5v5 basically, I have no doubts I’d be tanky enough to be a PITA to kill, while also really keeping some pressure on with Staff Clones, Scepter torment, and confusion/torment shatters.

Maybe it’s just my playstyle that makes me think it would work well. :S

The main playstyle of the build was intended to be a Reflect/Confusion mass applier through Glamours and Focus. Much like older Glamour builds succeeded incredibly at, until the confusion nerf.

The shatter aspect was more just there for added AOE potential in a big teamfight after the zergs have clashed. A glass power shatter build dies in about 2 seconds in these scenarios, so I want something Tanky that can survive, but still do some damage, hence Confusion shatter/torment.

I suppose I could drop the Shatter traits altogether and spec into something like on clone death traits, but really then the only difference is that I lose the control of WHEN I want them to take damage.

Everytime I post something on this forum that isn’t PU or Power Shatter, everyone assumes that’s what I’m trying to aim towards, and makes comments to make the build become either a Power Shatter, or a bunker PU build. I promise you, there are other ways to play a Mesmer than that… I really do appreciate the reply and feedback, but all 3 of your responses basically say “This won’t work because it isn’t power shatter” to me…

Anyone got thoughts / criticism / feedback?

If you think it’s awful you won’t hurt my feelings by saying so, just explain why so I can learn something from it.

It works as an instant Stunbreak, so if you are stunned and use it, it will break the stun. If you use it and then get stunned after while stealthed (if a projectile stun was already flying towards you), it will still stun you.

Just checked and seems to be working properly for me.

I was reading up on some older Glamour builds and wanted to try to re-create a similar playstyle to that of Kylia’s “Triforce” build that was around for a while before the Confusion Nerf. I think I’ve come up with something that could prove to be a pretty formidable force in WvW Zerg fights (which is the aim of the build). It’s got incredible tanky-ness, amazing AOE/Tagging potential, and really messes up large groups if they don’t pay attention to what’s happening… or even if they do.

It has the added bonus of being somewhat of a “Condition Shatter” playstyle of a build if you are solo/small group roaming. The 1vX potential is there, but I definitely see it shining better in large fights obviously.

I call it: The Tormential Downpour

I know that Maim isn’t that great of a trait, but with the added Condition Duration the build/gear has, and nothing else really helping the way the build plays as a Grandmaster trait, it certainly doesn’t hurt the build. The idea is to tear apart the rushing zerg with the obvious Glamour (Null/Feedback), and Reflect their projectile push with your 20s Curtain. Add on top of that some Clone Shatters if you get the chance in the middle of it all, and you’ve got some nice AoE Torment/Confusion raining down on a large group.

Now granted, creating clones isn’t as easy because of no Deceptive Evasion. But this isn’t really meant to be a Shatter build, but more of a Zerg Bunker, that has the ability to perform in smaller scale fights with some Condition Shattering. I also use Traveler runes because I can’t stand getting left behind in WvW, so could be swapped for something more suitable if you run with a guild that’s good at Swiftness sharing.

Not having a speed utility, even just 25%, makes me constantly want to switch mains. It’s so painful trying to keep up with Zerg/catch someone roaming. I would honestly drop a utility permanently, to keep 25% speed movement.

By using something “Hybrid” like this:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fhEQNAsfRlknpItlpxVNcrNSqBh6u8miSyEEgSuhuB-TlCBABRcEA2R9HB3fYBTfNp0DgTBAFKBZ4BAAmyA90HIAIH-w

But still mostly focusing on Power shatter, all I really lose is IP. Which I know equals a significant amount of damage typically… but in WvW I often find myself at range, so can’t reap the benefits of having IP anyways. The GS Clones being right there, shattering for maybe 10-15% less than a Full Power Shatter, while still applying some decent Torment/Confusion would be a nice rounded build I think…

Has no one really seen at least moderate success with something like this? I find that so hard to believe. :/

Does Torment/Confusion bursting not provide the same pressure as straight power-damage bursting? Even if I only had 1000 Condi damage, and got more power to be more of a Hybrid, I feel like this would play very similar to a GS Shatter power build, but just with condition elements subbed in…

Should be just as effective. Just a playstyle variation.

This is similar but a bit more focus on Clone Spamming to be able to shatter more to keep Torment/Confusion uptime?

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fhAQNAR7flknpTtlpxUNcrNSpBh6ycnmSyAkgSOiyB-TFDBABXoE8gjAwPq/ExDAQw9HOUngNaCA4CAQlSPGM9lxBBAMlBCAyB-w

I’m trying to put together a Condition Shatter build (check out my other thread) to have some sort of AoE presence besides just shattering. Struggling with trait setup and what’s worth it/isn’t but… if you have any ideas, check it out.

Would be nice to focus on fast/spammable shatters that apply Torment/Confusion/Bleeds on Crits still for pressure in smaller scale.

The idea for using GS as main weapon is that the illusions appear AT the target, and don’t have to run super slowly and obviously towards them. This is vital in a Zerg vs Zerg, because your illusions will 99% of the time die before they reach their shatter target with staff/scepter. But with GS, if you’re quick enough, you can shatter immedatiely after you GS4/2, and get that instant torment/confusion to the group.

There’s no target limit on Shatters correct?

What if I tried to make it a condition pressure build with Clone spam + Condition Shatter, using say GS/Staff?

Remember that while it’s nice to be able to hold my own and kill someone 1v1 or 1v2~, this is mostly a “Large Scale” build, so doing AOE condition and explosions everywhere is the point. Trying to play a Mesmer in WvW, but still be able to actually get credit/tags on people, and feel sort of useful.

Trying to figure out how to accomplish that…

Edit: Updated build.

So I know the burst potential might not be as high as the typical power based shatter build… but has anyone ever tried/considered a fully Condition Shatter Mesmer playstyle, like this:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fhAQNAR7flknpTtlpxUNcrNSpBh6ycnmSyAkgSOiyB-TFDBABXoE8gjAwPq/ExDAQw9HOUngNaCA4CAQlSPGM9lxBBAMlBCAyB-w

With such low CD on your shatters, and them refreshing at 50% HP, you’ve got some serious potential of pressure with Torment/Confusion/Random bleeds from crit proc. You’ve got amazing clone spam, and pretty kitten good survivability stats along with Torch invis.

For a Mesmer looking to play something other than a Power-based build in WvW/sPvP… this seem like it’d bring some hurt?

Criticism/Comments appreciated.

I’m totally sincere, sorry if it comes across as a troll. I really want to like my Mesmer more than my Ele (mostly because Sunrise, lol). It just seems that the… variation?… of Ele FAR surpasses that of a Mesmer.

Looking for some things I can focus on that Mesmer’s do better, if possible.

I had even tried to come up with a viable GS/Staff Condi build but… it just didn’t work out that well. Mesmer seems very pigeon-holed.

Hey everyone.

I played a Mesmer for almost 2 years. I recently switched over to my Elementalist for a while, and have to say that as a Staff Ele it’s such a huge change when roaming with zerg in WvW. I feel so useful. I can heal, I can actually tag things in ZvZ fights because of ground targets. I have blocks, slows, bleeds, burns, roots, reflect.

My basic question here is… I really like playing my Mesmer, but having had a taste of Elementalist it’s tough to try and come back.

What does a Mesmer have in WvW/large scale fights that Ele doesn’t? Or rather, what is the Mesmer’s “role” in large scale fights? I just feel like as a GS/Staff Shatter mesmer in WvW I’m simply there to tag along for the ride. When defending, I don’t really do much. When attacking… I don’t really do much?

I’ve been rocking this out for WvW/PvE lately:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fFAQFAWnMIShD25AuMArEGgAQImsY4ARWUM9XA-TlCEwAp2fYnSOpKFYp+TTlBSeAAAuAAHUC6WHQYTeCAaB-w

It’s got pretty awesome damage potential for free casting in WvW, but enough survivability still that you won’t get absolutely stomped if you get jumped and sort of know what you’re doing. It’s technically more glass than it is tanky but, I find I don’t have that hard of a time staying alive in WvW. I usually roam with 3-5, or travel with zerg.

The arrogance in this forum makes me want to never come back sometimes.

“Wait he’s Staff? Well I’m the best D/D Ele there is, so the guy he won against must be really bad. Only way Staff wins.”

I think the biggest advice you can be given right now is: Don’t focus on just being a healer.

The cool part about GW2, is that there is no “Holy Trinity”, or Tank/Healer/DPS. There are certain classes that are definitely better at some roles than others, but you don’t need a designated healer for dungeons/content usually.

Sure, it’s great that you specialize in water traits to boost your healing potential. But by not DPS’ing at all and sitting in water the whole time, you’re actually making the fight take a lot longer, thus making your party take MORE damage, thus making your extra healing potential kind of useless.

So with that, I’m sure your build is good, and your gear can have a decent amount of healing power, but don’t neglect power. If people are dying in Arah, or even mid level (20-30) Fractals, usually it’s their own fault and there’s no amount of healing you can do to save them.

Cool Vid. This is, however, the exact D/D build that the majority of Power users have been running for literally over a year, so nothing really new to see.

Am I the only one that has read this that think it sounds overpowered beyond belief? You clearly haven’t played many other classes if you think Ele’s have it rough with regards to being able to play how you want/be viable.

I just realized it also has a cooldown, AFTER the cooldown/it dies… so yeah that’s a no-go. Thought it was permanent with just a recast. Ah well.

Also question: Does our Lesser Elemental Glyph suck? The Fire Elemental might be a fun extra utility, since I’m only really relying on Lightning Flash + Glyph of Elemental Power right now. The 3 second cripple would be handy. Plus having a pet is rad.

Can’t watch from Canada

Is your build still the same as in the first post? I’ve been toying with a few slight changes with this build.

Could you link your current build/WvW gear actually? It’s not in your first video either, and I wonder if you’ve changed anything since the one before.

Wanted to bump this thread, and get a few more people commenting on how effective Staff is as an overall weapon. I really, reallllly like the mobility of D/D, but often roam with Zergs when I’m in WvW, and don’t really do much as D/D in a zerg. I usually find myself switching to Staff, even though I’m geared for D/D because of ranged fights.

The question is… Using this build, can Staff be applied to both PvE AND WvW? I don’t tPvP, but I’d like to be able to know I can kill someone 1v1, or at least get away/stay alive, before I buy a Bifrost over an Incinerator