Guild Wars 2

Sunflowers.1729:

Excalibur.9748:

Thief is still undoubtedly the worst character for PvE. Noone wants them for any dungeons.

That’s not the point of this thread. GS Warriors are amazing in dungeons, but you don’t see so many of them in WvW.

WvW, sPvP, and PvE (dungeons, fractals, dynamic events.etc) all require different things so different classes are stronger in those areas. It just happens that the way that Thieves are designed favors a game mode where being able to fight/disengage at will is invaluable.

Doesn’t mean that being bad for dungeons means Thieves are bad at WvW.

ChroNoS.6978:

Sunflowers.1729:

Nobody else can do that, since they are still visible and you can chase them down to kill them.

He’s a mesmer, he can’t chase down the pieces of poo dolyaks drop.. They’re soooooo slow.

And that’s the problem. Nobody can catch a Thief if they lose because of stealth that is a) very strong and b) has no counters (not to mention lots of mobility while in stealth). As a roaming Thief in WvW, there are only two outcomes to an engagement:

1) I win (hooray! I must be so skilled)
2) I can’t win for whatever reason, but manage to run away and avoid any penalty.

WvW counts as PvE. Any change you make to them for WvW directly affects their performance in PvE, and they’re already the worst in PvE.

Thief is still undoubtedly the worst character for PvE. Noone wants them for any dungeons.

looks like thief + engineer duo so no, standing in the black powder would’ve done nothing

why would you disable comments/ratings for the video?

Where did AoN go?

a small group should NOT be more effective than a zerg.

Bonedoctor.2796:

Competitive ?
All I see is a cowardly Tc and FA double teaming us since day one ! Neither of these servers has a lick of honor . As I type this , TC has there 75 + man zerg hitting one side of our keep ,and FA has there 75 + man zerg hitting other side ! Not bothering to attack one another . We have 35 people maybe holding atm and you STILL cant take it . If you had even a lick of digninty ,you might have the skill to get it from us . But as it stands ,its blatantly obvious why you insist on this alliance amongst yourselves . Your players skill base is laughable . And now we ALL know why ! Keep grinding Db ,these clowns aren’t worth the slightest bit of our respect .

ahahahahaha xD

Likewise. We will cross swords again, I’m sure!

Eviator.9746:

My goodness. TC is this your normal WvW turnout? If so T2 isn’t as balanced as previously thought!

Our normal turnout can be 2-3 maps on queue during NA primetime.

Araris.7839:

Excalibur.9748:

Kill 30 ambient creatures -> PvE
Collect 20 resources -> PvE
Underwater kills -> good luck finding someone underwater to kill
Cure X conditions -> probably something you’ll get without trying for it
Do X interrupts -> depends on your build
Res X allies -> probably something you’ll get without trying for it
Get 50 kills -> probably something you’ll get without trying for it
Kill 13 types of creatures -> PvE
…and so on

Sorry..but what you’re saying just stinks of laziness. It’s PvE to gather resources? its terribly difficult to hit that bunny as you run by..?

It must just be a coincidence that everyone here is saying they complete their daily easily and without any real effort in WvW. All except you that is.

You’re asking for special treatment in achieving gear because you’re too lazy to stop for 10 seconds and harvest a plant or kill some defenseless creature.

Ridiculous

It’s got nothing to do with laziness. Killing a random bunny or wolf isn’t gonna help my team achieve more PPT. I have a WvW mindset and I don’t do anything that won’t give my world more +PPT.

I thought that is how WvW is meant to be played. Must be why sometimes we have a queue in our map but noone is defending our towers or attacking, because they’re off killing bunnies and harvesting minerals.

I had a scare yesterday when I saw that on TCBL we only had the garrison left. Good thing we didn’t lose it, since we had it waypointed and all.

Kill 30 ambient creatures → PvE
Collect 20 resources → PvE
Underwater kills → good luck finding someone underwater to kill
Cure X conditions → probably something you’ll get without trying for it
Do X interrupts → depends on your build
Res X allies → probably something you’ll get without trying for it
Get 50 kills → probably something you’ll get without trying for it
Kill 13 types of creatures → PvE
…and so on

Araris.7839:

Excalibur.9748:

I just don’t like being forced to cross off a laundry list of things before I can actually start defending a tower that’s being attacked by a large zerg. By the time I finish my tasks, the tower will surely have fallen.

In WvW, there are critical things that must be attended to first. It makes no sense to force the player to go like okay I need to kill 3 cats, 5 dogs, and 7 wolves before I can do anything else. Nevermind we just lost all our towers, that’s okay cuz I got my laurel!

Everything on the list of the daily in regards to WvW are things that you should be doing in WvW. Killing yaks, killing enemies, capturing towers. This isn’t a difficult concept to grasp but I’ll spell it out.

Just do what you normally do in WvW, and you’ll complete your daily.

its that simple.

By doing what I normally do in WvW – which is killing players, killing yaks, capturing/defending tower/keep/castle, rolling with the zerg I have only gotten the daily about 2-3 times and I play WvW quite often since day 1.

Your logic doesn’t check out.

I just don’t like being forced to cross off a laundry list of things before I can actually start defending a tower that’s being attacked by a large zerg. By the time I finish my tasks, the tower will surely have fallen.

In WvW, there are critical things that must be attended to first. It makes no sense to force the player to go like okay I need to kill 3 cats, 5 dogs, and 7 wolves before I can do anything else. Nevermind we just lost all our towers, that’s okay cuz I got my laurel!

Master of Timespace.2548:

Collect 50 bones, kill 50 bandits, do 50 X… That’s what mmos are all about.

Not guild wars 2, and especially not WvW.

Draygo.9473:

Excalibur.9748:

GuardianOMS.8067:

Make it karma based. Moving along!

+1 I have a lot of badges and karma from playing WvW, but no laurels.

I don’t know how this is possible when you get some days where the dailies are:

Kill 10 enemy players
Kill 5 dolyaks
Kill 1 champion
Kill 5 vets
Remove 15 conditions

You should have SOME laurals.

I have a few that I got without trying for it. Those won’t be enough to get any ascended items I’m sure.

The point stands. Dailies = PvE content. WvW = killing other players and playing for objective without a care for what the “dailies” are.

GuardianOMS.8067:

Make it karma based. Moving along!

+1 I have a lot of badges and karma from playing WvW, but no laurels.

WvW players don’t have any laurels at all.

By making it require laurels, you are requiring the WvW player to do extensive PvE just to get any ascended equipment.

Please reconsider.

DB just ticked +545. Is TC and FA falling apart?

DB just ticked +500. What’s happening to TC and FA? Are they falling apart?

Thief is the worst class in PvE and WvW, it needs a big buff Anet.

It was a pleasure working with FA over last week. Never thought we’d finally team up and be “buddy buddy”.

Looking forward to the start of an exciting new friendship between our 2 servers

Jayne.9251:

Excalibur.9748:

I don’t get it. I didn’t know TC had that strong a SEA force at all!!

Shouldn’t most people be at work at this time of day?

We have tons of folks who took a two week break when you guys just got into the tier. They’re back now.

I’m in TC Jayne

I don’t get it. I didn’t know TC had that strong a SEA force at all!!

Shouldn’t most people be at work at this time of day?

PVDOOR! PVDOOR!

Take everything from them while they sleep

Reset night is definately gonna be interesting tonight

Wonder if DB will be picking up more steam this week due to the new JQ transfers?

Holy hell this is still anyone’s game.

GOO TC GOO!

Is DB falling apart already?

Kinda getting the feeling they’re outmanned right now.

Thieves are the biggest joke in the game right now, People really need to L2P if they can’t beat a thief 1v1 100% of the time.

Phlogus.2371:

I say keep the WXP for repairs. Doing the grunt work that sets the conditions for success should be rewarded.

It sets the conditions for failure just as often. It should deduct WXP in that case?

Just leave it neutral and not give any WXP.

Repairing gates/walls very often leads to the demise of keeps/castles/towers. This kind of behavior should NOT be encouraged.

Post if you agree/disagree with this.

Dragonbrand is really bringing it.

Epic fights all around guys. Really loving this matchup.

Let’s not drop down to FA’s level. We’re dominating them so much now, they’re just bitter that we’re much better in terms of coverage and skill level.

Where did WM transfer off to?

I also get this.

Still getting problem as of today. Got it earlier in WvW.

This is still happening as of today. Got it in WvW.

This is still happening as of today. Got it in WvW