Learn to use spy kits or bring a mezmer. It is only a 30-45min fotm and isn’t hard at all. No reason for it to be fixed.
fotm weapons are now skins that need to be applied to other weapons. Reset might have erased the stats
First:This isn’t a flame post or troll post.
When we watch sporting events or have any competition the idea is to have a somewhat level playing field. GW2 totally fails this test. Some servers are outnumbered by entire whole digits 2+times. Regularly 4 or 5 times.
So when you are on top of the charts know full well that it is completely meaningless…….and I can hear it now…“the top pop servers are balanced”…really? try fighting a low pop server with even numbers…They fighting much tougher fights than yourself probably will crush the “top” server. Top…ya right that is a good one!
There is no attempt at all to balance this problem.
The solutions are easy and I personally could implement the coding change in a weeks time. (I’m giving myself 39 hours padding!)
Given this problem is so easy to fix yet isn’t makes a person wonder what the problem could be.
The problem is that ANet doesn’t seem to agree that it’s a problem. Devon Carter has flat out said as much, and he didn’t even bother to participate in the CDI thread on WvW population balance. I honestly don’t believe we will ever see it fixed.
Easy fix delete low population servers till all servers are full. Why Anet didn’t roll out one server at a time is beyond me. That way all servers will have equal initial populations. People won’t be able to migrate to best server and equal population distribution. People of deleted server get free move.
u know 2nd chest might be once per account
Well rares drop more frequently now. Not sure if that is new MF or fotms though
over one year into fotm and mossman is still bugged >.<
So scarlet didn’t cause the reactor to go boom in the end nothing she said suggested that she did. How molten alliance was teleporting in though is a major question though I thought they where formed after.
As far as reactors go though it is realistic. But why the control rods aren’t within the reactor core i will never know. SCRAM cant be performed >.> = Super-critical meltdown.
Well, I’m probably going to be the first to ever do this on these forums, but I officially retract my earlier positions (post-patch, anyway) and change my views on this dungeon altogether.
Considering that it’s required that individual players split up and stand on buttons in order to open up the first puzzle room, and this is while being assaulted by a number of hard-hitting dredge, it’s become commonplace to bypass these two switches in a number of ways. Well, I just sat there waiting for the last 20 minutes while players were trying to get to my location in order to START that room.
Now, this might have just been a poor team, and in some regards the blame should stop there. But the fact that the team NEEDED to know this method (I won’t call it an exploit, because the open top of the cage is obviously meant to be jumped into, even with the previous fix) and be able to complete it on a timely basis is the problem.
Yes, get rid of the first two buttons altogether. Make it a decent fight to get to the room. I’ll be happy there.
Bombs…I think the mobs should be scaled down a little bit, sure. But it’s nowhere near the importance of that first room’s mechanic.
I’m done with fractals until these changes are made. There’s simply no excuse for these problems, especially when their existence has made the majority of the playerbase unable to reliably complete this dungeon in a reasonable time frame. Oh, also considering that Dredge seems to be the #1 pick for the third fractal.
Someone doesn’t know how to use ash legion spy kits
How can you hate something you don’t even know. At most you can say is you hate her development. What do we really know about scarlet almost nothing.
So to all the Kiel voters who thought there was some compelling Atherblade Steam Creatures plot twist involving the Thaumanova Reactor: Are you happy?
Yes, I love my reduced waypoint costs.
You do know that is over right
Also, the fractal portrays the inquest as the good guys who you play as which is probably not likely.
Yeah, and in the ascalon invasion fractal you play as the flame legion, that doesn’t mean they’re the good guys.
You should have Voted Evon just saying
Someone’s bitter.
Just saying Kiel could have crafted the fractal for propaganda against scarlet not that we need it most want her dead. Or to hide who really did it. As fotm experiments is really like dugeon crafting how much truth of real events can you get out of them.
You should have Voted Evon just saying
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For my anti Kiel theory I though I should add it.
Reward from dredge is much improved I’m getting 25% more bags per level. Also 8 rares and tone of ectos from those. Did it in 30mins and wasn’t very hard also. I think they increased # of mobs while decreasing there strength.
If this was already mention i apologies [spoiler]
Because fractals show alternative versions of history i was wondering if the new Thermanova fractal might be a fake. To inspire hatred of scarlet and motivate people against her. Apparently Kiel threatened Desda in story mode to make the fractal her way and this might have caused the instabilities we are experiencing now in fotm to maintain this fake fractal.
Maybe Kiel was the real perpetrator, It was never explained how she knew how to use inquest tech and would be much less boring then scarlet did it.
Also, the fractal portrays the inquest as the good guys who you play as which is probably not likely.
You should have Voted Evon just saying
I have a question. Is it possible to craft a +12 infusion? There are none on TP and Dulfy Datamining only had from 1-11. Does the +12 exist, or are the infusions not as infinite as they should be?
Cost 2x more to make those infusions so people who actually spend to make them most likely don’t want to sell them.
All daily rewards are account based since update this was mentioned many times both in patch notes. It came with the account fotm level.
My first was GS on my first fotm 20. Everyone in guild and party where kitten ed and hated me for it.
The part that I find rather hilarious is the automatic assumption that “Reactor Fractal looks boring!” means that “Abaddon Fractal is great!”
Sure you may feel disappointed in what the Reactor Fractal looks to be like. That’s fine. It doesn’t, however, mean that the Abaddon Fractal wouldn’t have been just as disappointing. In fact, given how hyped up some parties were/are about the Abaddon Fractal and some of the crazy ideas said people had about what it would contain, I’d actually say that the disappointment would have been even greater regardless of how well the Abaddon Fractal would have turned out.
Looks like COE if you haven’t played that content you should. Abaddon would have been the crystal desert a map not even in game yet. So what is you point. We missed out on seeing the most epic battle in the history of the world. So you could save 5 silver. That sums up what the election was about.
If they where rolling out one map per month no one would be asking for expansions at all and that is what they are working towards. Living story campaign against the dragons will probably be like that.
Initially I thought so too. But I’ve since decided that I don’t really want them touching such an old and important piece of lore. Looking at all the ways they have marginalised the gods in GW2 I have a feeling it might have been a let down :/
Thaumanova should be good though.While I agree with the idea that it would have been bad to rush Abbadon Fractal within a four month time frame. I don’t think the Thaumanova is going to give us more information on the lore we don’t already know. Also if anything is new is added it will be very either formulaic/stereotypical, or will be allusions to things we will never have answered. Especially after I end up seeing this on the update page and reconfirming the inquests involvement:
“Thaumanova Reactor Fractal: You voted, and Kiel delivered! Experience the moments leading up to the catastrophic destruction of the Thaumanova Reactor, caused by the Inquest’s reckless experiments with Chaos Energy.”
So yeah, I don’t have my hopes up.
Well if we find out whose fault it is we can hunt them down. Would make for an interesting bounty mission.
I hope they answer the question why they even think about resetting the Levels. Besides leaderbaords are no excuse because for fair competition they should start at 0.
And if they consider rez orb or doing even or odd Levels only to advance an exploit?Well while I never got past 30 in fractals, and I never even knew you could exploit past 50. But the reason for the reset seemed pretty obvious to me.
They said that they are introducing a leader board and reworking fractals levels 30+. Even without the leaderboard I still think they’d reset progress (like they did for discoveries in crafting). For ascended crafting it was to allow people to gain exp, here its so no one can already have “beaten” all of their new content, with the Mistlock Instability with a boss level at ever floor.
It makes the people who are already at 48 plus to have to work back up to the top. For crafting it would have been unfair to people that already discovered everything to have to get exp from just crafting (though I saw at least one person angry because he just wanted to discover everything) here it would be unfair to not reset people. If it becomes harder now anyone who was already at 50 would be getting a “free pass” (not saying a lvl 50 fractal is easy, but I think you understand my point) and not have to work up through 30. At least that’s why it made sense to me why everything was getting reset.
soo as a fractals Player I Need to hope that they reset pvp/ wvw ranks as well with next season it’s unfair if they implement legendaries out of pvp chests ( wich they will do (datamined chatcodes already ingame) because some ppl don’t have a that high rank and everybody should start of same feet. If they get the Server Population Thing done with wvw they should reset so not ppl on zergservers have higher wxp ranks than others… you think this is fair.. you only don’t care because it’s an aspect of the game you haven’t played…
it’s sad how ignorant ppl are on those Forums just ignore Facts and stuff …
sad sad ignorant community ….
Actually they will reset your WvW abilities again just like they did this Season. You’ll still have points you’ve earned and can then reassign them where you want them for the next season. I know this is different from your reward level but the difference is the WvW point are “spent” the award from fractals are not. Your not loosing anything your getting scaled down to what 80 would be in the new and coming current scale.
wouldn’t they only do that before season 2 though. I don’t think they will do that for the reranking.
I thought they are created by the dash skill from the dolfins?
If you actually took the time to read my post properly you would have read the bit were I mentioned the patch is coming weather you like it or not. so you can
a.) be optimistic and try and enjoy the patch.
Carrot.
b.) or be pessimistic and not enjoy it.
Stick.
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Yeah…. no. Still incorrect usage. As against, it’s referring to the method in which you get somebody to do something. You either offer a reward or punishment.
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Wasn’t shocked at level update. I personally don’t care cause I can make up the levels I will lose /(>.<)/. I found high level fractals boring and unchallenging and hope this update fixes it. However, It probably won’t so I am expecting a 50+ reset next year. Cause they will/are going to keep adding layers of difficulty to fotm so that difficulty scales in an interesting way.
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Does everyone only play one class? I’m building my 5th 80 now
I got: war guard mez engineer. building ele now
I dunno… Scarlet may be insane, but she’s still no idiot. She’d know full well that the Pale Tree is the only source for sylvari – no Pale Tree, no sylvari.
Unless she does know about Malyck and Scarlet’s intention is to effectively do what Caithe and Trahearne feared the Nightmare Court would do (burn down the Pale Tree and “start over”).
Also, as to the Dream giving fundamental knowledge to all born sylvari – Malyck by all our accounts and knowledge had no influence with the Dream of Dreams – same or otherwise. And before the amnesia argument gets brought up: He didn’t have amnesia, that was just the player characters’ assumption based on the fact that Malyck didn’t know what the Pale Tree, Grove, and Dream of Dreams were. But despite this, Malyck has a basic understanding of the world – though how much of this is from him picking things up in the 2 weeks (?) that he was with the Wardens before the Nightmare Court attacked is anyone’s guess.
accept there is another tree without the dream
I got my first a greatsword at my first fotm 20. I said it once and ill say it again fotm skins are not hard to get at all if you do 2 fotm a day you will get 4 a week.
Please stop spreading your scewed preception of how not hard fractals weapons are to get. Not everyone is as luky as you. Fractal greatsword on your first 20??!!! If i add up everythign I have ran and put it into your formula of running 2 fotm a day for a week to get 4… Then technically i should have over 30 weaps! I have 9.Not to mention all the time you put in to not get what you want….This box to choose your weap is needed for the unlucky people who would otherwise never get the weapon they want.
Not everyone does fotm 40s I guess. They have a 40% drop rate there. and yes they are very easy to get.
There are only 2 patches left before the end of the year. We are still missing the following that was supposed to be implemented before the end of the year:
1. New traits
2. New skills
3. Crafting to 500 for armor
4. Ascended armor
5. Precursor crafting
6. New legendary weapons
7. New PvP game modes
8. Legendary weapons in PvPI can’t image all these things dropping in the same patch. Where is the info on these? What patch are they coming in?
1.)Harder to implement without wrecking game balances for those per class might be difficult
2.) we already got
3.)4.)will come together we already know they have the items in game through item codes
5.)6.)not yet
7.)custom arenas have more options and build able arenas coming
8.)might through off balance not really necessary
Anything related to skin and anesthetics and not actually game play i don’t really think needs to be addressed immediately. People have been saying they want content to roll out slower so that it is more refined cant really complain when this is happening.
So Wall of Reflection didn’t work against Mai Trin? Why not? That seems so inconsistent.
wall of reflection doesn’t work on a lot of attacks. Idea is they have pearcing and can penetrate shields of absorption and reflection. So no need to make it work on this attack.
So you’re saying fractals don’t exist anymore? Fractals 1.0, you call it? Then why are we level 30 then, why not go all the way and set everyone at 0? Because according to your “logic” we didn’t gain access to level 30 in Fractals 2.0 Why weren’t we told that Fractals 1.0 is being “removed”. All we ever wanted was rasied level cap and maybe some more maps along with rewards. We never asked for this.
You have a good point.
I think only raising the level cap, more maps and rewards without the reset wouldn’t offend anyone.
They even could implement the mistlock abilities without resetting everyones fractal level.The only reason for the reset they name are the leaderboards.
I can totally understand why you’d want to reset it for the leaderboards.
The problem with this is that there are more players that will lose alot progress then players that want the leaderboards.I allready explained that leaderboards are a really bad idea.
I’ts a player rank for a team effort resulting in groups being at the same rank.
The number of fractal levels (max 50) is limiting the amount of ranks alot.
Increasing the fractal lvl cap later will also cause problems for the leaderboards.
If Anet gave us what we wanted scarlet would be dead already
Then play with older version of game no new content or rewards too cant have one without the other probly wont work. I honestly think people will stop arguing after they see rewards or it will start up again.
Yeah I guess we will just have to see what its like once they release the update.
It Is honestly how it always is with every update
80 fotmers what do you value in being 80? And what are you losing that you don’t want lost? This is not the number but content you are losing?
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Do leader in leader board get hate messages or guild recruitments? I honestly don’t even look at them other then WvW which I use other websites to monitor the progress.
What if they…
Allowed people to opt out of the leader boards, but keep their progression?
Then play with older version of game no new content or rewards too cant have one without the other probly wont work. I honestly think people will stop arguing after they see rewards or it will start up again.
I consider chaos rifts as a model for the instability lost of control of mist dungeon distorting. Being teleported from one fractal to the next to the next. Fabric of space and time being riped. Abandon or giant grabbing member and pulling them through a rift. You now have to finish it 4maned. That kind of level of absolute insanity. Not just buffs and conditions. Dugions are called out of the mist and formed by Desda so really it is anything goes in there.
Both of the new boss type Fractals have been re-balanced and tuned to be more consistent with the other Fractals. The fight is indeed easier—at level 1. The original difficulty and more can be found a higher scales.
Jade maw is the same difficulty at level 1 as he is at 48. (Piling on ar to deal with an unavoidable application of agony does not represent difficulty to me). Are you going to introduce mechanics that scale maw’s difficulty as well?
Add aeither cannons to him wha wha wha wha wha
I would say around the 30-45 min mark per frac is good, so that really good groups can complete in 15-20.
That is honestly how they all are accept dredge which I think they said they are adressing
Awarding a title now would be unfair to all the people who didn’t push on beyond the point where pushing on was pointless.
A metal of honorary service. A gold cape back item. A lot of things they can through at you even a title just got to justify it.
When I say from here I don’t mean me…
I as a fractal explorer delved into the depths of the mist that was physically though to be impossible. Desda Would want me to continue as an experimentee in her research I ask for an incentive to do so…
I said a few times justify it within context of game and anet would probly give it to you cause they are trying to create a living realistic world.
The only kind of progress lost is the same kind of progress that’s lost when a living story setting is phased out: access to something that doesn’t exist anymore. Makes sense to me.
second
And those who don’t know fotm is a living story arch
But don’t diss Anet for ever adding new content for “free”.
Thanks, good point. I guess I have to love all updates even if they reset progress. What if they are horrible updates?
progress you are refurring to is just a number till we actually see new content it really doesn’t mean anything
Anet posted email addresses instead of player names due to glitch in guild menu I don’t know how much them monitor privacy but…
If you post info on internet you should expect to lose a little.
it shouldnt start at 50 because 30-80 fractals were designed via algorithm. This made them kind of boring. lets be honest, gameplay wise, there isnt much difference between 28 and 41. between 42 and 48? The main difference is you want to get hit less. If you already learned how not to get hit very often at 36, not much more to learn at 48.
After 10+ it was all the same. Barely anything changed even then. So if that’s your reasoning then reset everybody to 10.
It’s still progression that I made (and others) that is being deleted. Either don’t or compensate.
This community is just really really sad. I’ll just go back to the dungeon forums where there are intelligent and caring people.
I honestly think reset everyone zero. I have no problem re-leveling and people are complaining that we got to keep any levels at all as I have state lore wise you are part of an experiment the mouse in the maze has no control on maze design of amount of cheese at end. Either enjoy new content or don’t I honestly don’t really care. But don’t diss Anet for ever adding new content for “free”.
fight maul with the aeither cannons shooting. Idea is you are stuck between war of aiether blades and the leviathan. Pirates and sea monsters what else would go together better
its something different, the devs never claimed it would be harder than level 80 content. Level 80 content wasnt meant to be accessed, and no longer exists. Its content meant for people who are in the range of 30-50, if you call that casual, then ok. If your real beef is you want content as hard as level 80 stuff, then your true desire has been obscured up to this point. I suggest you ask arena net to make more content that is mechanically more difficult. They may be considering it
But is that what all the players are screaming is the reason we shouldn’t start at 50? Because it’s new content we haven’t completed, and we’re “scared” we won’t be able to get back that high.
If we could start at 50 and it can be done the first day, then it’s a joke.
They don’t want people completeting lvl 50 the first day, so they add a time gate to already time gated completed material.
Anet can’t design difficult encounters so they add difficulty through time gating. Otherwise the majority of casual players would scream and complain.
it shouldnt start at 50 because 30-80 fractals were designed via algorithm. This made them kind of boring. lets be honest, gameplay wise, there isnt much difference between 28 and 41. between 42 and 48? The main difference is you want to get hit less. If you already learned how not to get hit very often at 36, not much more to learn at 48.
How much different is the different difficulties for a berserker thief? he was dying in two hits at level 38.
So then it becomes, why do you have to do this 30 and 40 more times to get to something new, its a bad design.
They are trying to correct a design flaw, and make fractals overall more interesting, and fix bugs, this not really a patch designed around unlocking higher difficulties. Perhaps it should have been, perhaps thats what you guys really wanted. But honestly i think these new fractals sound a lot more interesting than the old ones. I dont think people should to play without getting hit for 20 levels before they play anything new and interesting.
There was no change in mechanics at all 30+ you can even say 10+ left fotm really boring to level through. The new fotm are incorporated into old one what changed is they add instabilities. Probly fighting maul with cannons or something like that random chaotic occurrences in the mist by pushing experimental devices power level.
They made fotm alt friendly for a reason exploit it
Please fotm lore wise is complete subjected to whims of and single Asura mad scientist who reclust herself from the world. If you think she cares at all about life or reward of the experimentee you the player you are not a rational thinker. You the player signed up to test a consumer product and now you are testing the revamped version. You have no say on what happens or what is offered in fotm. That is the absolute truth. And if you don’t applied for the experiment many others will flock to replace you. That is the current set up of fotm.
Cause rewards didn’t improve after 30 no new rewards introduced or significant difficulty added/ new mechanic this reset in hindsight could be seen and under stood. Even a future reset to 50 a year from now can be predicted when a new layer of difficulty will be added with new fractals. An fallowing year in 20 level increments. Fotm is new and this is first update no one knew what to expect and now we do. Learn from it keep playing or quit is your own discussion. Idea people where not rewarded for reaching 80 with increased drops rates is for a year is completely not true.
Further rewards for this at whims of mad scientist. The Asura are know to sacrifice apprentice’s in experiment see “SCARLET” as an example do you thing they really care at all for volunteer experimentees? Probly not at all.
- Fix the bugs in existing fractals (such as harpy invulnerability)
- Put a fixed agony resistance into ascended items and remove agony infusions
- Make fractal level account bound and restart at 30 max.
- Remove the existing fractals 31 upwards
- Add levels 31-40 in this update with the challenges
- Add a fractal update next year for levels 41-50
- Allow barter of an unwanted weapon fractal skin + pristine relics for a chosen skin
- Make fractal weapons into actual skins rather than transmutation sinks
- Stop fractal instances closing when the opening player leaves the group
- Make AR of each player visible to the group
- no leaderboard
Just want to point out they never fix bugs against the player before the ones that help the player
You guys went to school? You invested your time to get certain degree? New curriculum introduced and they told you your degree no longer valid?
That’s the type of equity wiped make people upset. Real life & in game.
If you don’t understand this principle, I don’t have anything more to say.That sort of stuff happens in real life too. You either learn the new content to refresh your degree/certification or you find a new line of work. So here you either learn the new mechanics they’re adding in at level 30 or you find another game/part of gw2 to play.
O rly!? In real life all your old degrees get deleted as if they never happened?
they dont delete them, it just doesnt give you any access to anything of value for having it. lets say you got certified in windows 95, thats pretty useless these days. In general your degree is only an entry point now, and you are expected to periodically upgrade it via either experience or further studies.
lets say you learned cadkey in college, now they use autodesk, unless you kept up, yur left behind.
exactly
You guys went to school? You invested your time to get certain degree? New curriculum introduced and they told you your degree no longer valid?
That’s the type of equity wiped make people upset. Real life & in game.
If you don’t understand this principle, I don’t have anything more to say.That sort of stuff happens in real life too. You either learn the new content to refresh your degree/certification or you find a new line of work. So here you either learn the new mechanics they’re adding in at level 30 or you find another game/part of gw2 to play.
O rly!? In real life all your old degrees get deleted as if they never happened?
If you don’t study after you graduate yes the essentially do.
One fear I have is the discouragement this is causing with the upper level fractal runners. Many of my friends are already saying “why should I bother with leveling up the new fractals when everything I did in the old ones was for nothing. What happens when they announce Fractals 3.0, I might as well stay with the herd because that is where the reset will go to.” Followed by “it looks like all rewards can be gained at 30 except for a tonic. I’ll probably just do 30’s for the rewards. And join a champ train in frostgorge with the rest of my time.”
Granted, that is just “sad talk” but still, It is this discouragement that bothers me. Now granted, the competitive bug will mostly like strike many of us again and we will be right there climbing the levels. But there will still be others who will stay discouraged. I will say that this discouragement does make players start looking at other games more (like EQnext). Taking away even perceived equity has a way of demoralizing players and losing loyalty.
next level reset would probly be to 50 level up at own risk