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A DH commander once told me we’d never own our own borderlands again after what the IoJ night shift did to you guys….shame on him (Rina Latrix). I can’t wait to see what the weekdays hold.
Yeah, some of our commanders… That one in particular told a number of us to basically “eff off” if we werent part of their guild yesterday in a BL. That sort of thing is fine by me, just dont be surprised when those same people dont listen to a word that is said in the future. Not being part of the guild, and all, I think if the help isnt welcome, then it isnt welcome. Of course, they didnt tell anyone what they were doing either so the people who were told to scram couldnt work on separate objectives, or try to avoid the GvG, or whatever was going on. Awesome teamwork from DH on that one!
I am pretty sure all servers have dealt with the same. Certainly isnt uncommon in PvP!
To those questioning skill, on every side, PUGs will generally be the “easiest” to take down with less ability to communicate with one another. But at the same time, they are the backbone of any server. Ive said it a lot before, but the server that is able to get its PUGs to actually play together towards the same objectives is going to be a powerhouse. I actually am starting to see this a lot from my server (DH) where PUGs are utilizing fields I am laying down and ressing, etc. Sticking together and spreading out as the need arises, and more. I have been very impressed actually. SOMEONE needs to make up for the lil asura (me).
In my defense, I constantly lay down radiation field!
Its easy to only remember our victories, but its in defeat that we learn the most. Every portal bomb I took part in was successful, btw. Its a technique that can either immediately work, or immediately fail. I personally wouldnt do it after I learned about all the hammers that would be swung in response, but thats just me. Remember too, with the changes to culling, it will almost always look like your side is outnumbered since it tends to cull same server players instead of opponents. In most fights, it only looked like 5 people were holding off 40, but in reality, there were much more of my team mates there than showed on screen.
Loved the fights again last night, but we will see what the week has in store.
@Gab:
Laying down conditions then getting the heck outta dodge? Youre like.. my bro, bro! Ranger shortbow is great for stacking conditions to an unknowing party. I used to laugh at all the plinking when it was done to me, but man those conditions catch up fast!
The thing with pugs is though, that they are usually dedicated WvW players themselves, they just don’t like to run in a guild, or their guild is not into WvW / running WvW at the moment. That’s why I feel many people don’t give them enough credit.
Oh, and I don’t take pride in wiping large groups of pugs. It’s just what AD/NoQQ/BSty does on the battlefield. I don’t have any illusions about us being the best players on the server or that the dude who trebs SM for an hour from WC is doing anything less important.
That being said, I do believe the work that we do is also no less important. Having a group who can easily wipe zergs twice their numbers is an important aspect of WvW. And even if it wasn’t, I would still be doing it. Because having fun IS the single most important aspect of playing this game, and killing people is what makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.
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Every server has disorganized PUGs. Personally, I prefer fighting guilds who think that a portal bomb = automatic win.
Lol, this seems like a thing from Darkhaven really. Yesterday we were portal bombed 10 times by different groups of people, some multiple times, who also got wiped every single time.
It’s kind of amusing but at the same time kind of sad. Not saying this as a troll, I do applaud your effort in using strategies, but portal bombing the same group using 5+ hammer guardians is just not gonna end well, not the first time nor the n:th time.
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So it’s that time of the week where it gets a little boring and everyone gets a little bit angsty, so!
Setting up a fightclub on Thursday 8pm-1am NA primetime. I can get a few peeps from DH to attend, and hopefully DR and IoJ are willing to? A good break from the zerging, let’s keep the word flowing around!
Fightclub Details:
Where: South Camp of chosen Borderland
When: Thursday, 8pm-1amI will sponsor the flame rams that will mark out the duel spots, hopefully we can have 2 duel spots, and fightclubs can be set up 1v1 2v2 3v3 5v5. Send me mail ingame and we’ll try to get everyone in TS or Vent.
It seems we will be stuck with each other on this tier for awhile so let’s make it happen!
Flame rams? Is this going to be like a serious thing? I prefer to play dirty. You know, putting conditions on someone and then resetting combat for myself and such.
Much more fun that way.
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Mmmm tasty. Not only did your own argument dissemble itself, but you also are now admitting BP is below average. I didn’t realize one person could speak for their server, but you have spoken sir.
Not only does your own argument disagree with itself, but you assume I play on BP . I realize one person could speak for their server, I suggest you refrain.
-K
As you were defending them I would obviously assume so, if are speaking from AR, it goes the same way, because they are being crushed anyways. So the point still stands? IF Ebay is Average, and we destroy BP, who are in turn below average, then what does that leave AR who is below both?
-C
As for the WAR comments, I never even brought up me smashing walabone, its in the past and he knows not to speak out of turn. I was speaking in terms of wiping the guild.
You guys are soooo good, even with a larger population, you went down a tier. O.O
Ummm… Grats?
Population doesn’t have to mean so much, it’s about coverage really.
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Fun times in EB tonight!
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I’m not saying DH doesn’t have class here.
It’s merely one guild that made a futile attempt at portal bombing us, not knowing we are the biggest fish in the pond. They grew a little frustrated when we promptly wiped them, and when they saw the opportunity to /laugh at us after having killed us 15v3 they took it.
I don’t really care that much, I don’t take pride in wiping groups like them, and wiping to 15v3 is obviously nothing I mind. That being said, I prefer some mutual respect between the servers.
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Darkhaven must have some awesome jokes, there’s a lot of /laughing going on within their zergs, just wish our 3 man could hear what they are.
“Those guys only killed half of us in that 15v3.”
“Haha, what terribads!”
/laugh
“Did anyone record it?”
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I’d like to think my guild and GOLD gave a good showing in IoJ’s map last evening. I did want to take more than just a tower and Bay, but when I started to push to the north, Darkhaven started pushing in from the east, and when I redirected our forces to pummel Darkhaven, IoJ cheerfully charged in from the north again. It is a bloody pain trying to fight a war on two fronts, you know.
Thats one of the interesting things I noted last night. It seemed like EVERY fight had all three servers there! I found it to be a lot of fun to be able to sneak out, let the two other sides battle and then tactically approach further into the fight. I have no doubt every side was doing the same thing. I enjoy it immensely!
Just when I think we have held off the DR zerg somewhere, IoJ comes in right after. Then, if that gets held off, DR is right there again!
While the three way fights happen in every match, I swear it was more frequent last night than I have seen before (at least in EB). We’ll see if that continues, but last night was one of my favorites I have had in WvW. Didnt hurt that I FINALLY got to 10k kills too. I know plenty of people have tons more than that, but Im happy about it.
This guy gets it! DR lives more for the fighting than the potential points, I too enjoy it immensely. I just wished more servers shared the same mindset.
See you on the battlefield!
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its a nice wall you have there dr http://puu.sh/2msgj
Oh no! Is this going to be a thread where a server thump their chests about how good they are at PvD’ing?
Because nobody likes someone who thump their chest about how good they are at PvD’ing.
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It’s weird that the lowest tier WvW servers are still High populated rather than Medium.
I really do think it should be based somewhat on how well you do in WvW.
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Wow, we can’t even hold own BL now, that’s comforting to know.
DR is traditionally a good server on reset night.
Nope.
EDIT: We suck at holding our BL during reset night, is what I mean
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(edited by Gab Superstar.4059)
Hello Darkhaven!
:)
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I don’t get it?
If a group of 10 wipe a 30-man zerg, they get no XP because they wiped them 5 minutes earlier.
But if that zerg doubles their numbers everyone in that zerg gets TONNES of XP when they wipe the 10-man group, because they stayed alive for a long time?
This is pathetic.
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FIGHT CLUB BPBL
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Couldn’t care less about the upgrades, the titles is what does it for me.
Bragging rights > Any other progression.
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I agree. Why they choose to nerf thieves in so many ways at the same time is beyond me. Every class has their niche role, and thieves excel at fighting 1v1’s or in small numbers. That being said, their capability in ZvZ and a lot of other WvW related things leaves a lot to be desired. Believe me, in the grand scheme of things my ability to pick someone off 1v1 is nothing compared to what other professions can do.
I am currently able to put full ascended gear on my thief main but I am holding it off because I don’t know if she will even be viable after Tuesday, and with character bound progression why would I bother? Better roll one of the other professions that can bring so much more to WvW than a strong burst.
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Everyone else in T1 probably.
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T6 will be awesome.
Once you smash everyone from both servers multiple times the novelty really wears off.
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A: you can dump your ram bps on top of existing enemy rams and build/use and destroy their rams after you’ve taken the tower.
B: flame rams can be used for so much more than just knocking down gates.
You will often hit the enemy rams instead of the gate with your rams.
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I fully support this. Those 4-5 rams can take a lot of time to take down too, giving opponents a lot more time to react when you are attacking somewhere kind of like a second burning oil.
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PvP won’t work for obvious reasons.
PvE is too far separated from on-land PvE to be feasible. I loved the underwater zones in WoW but I don’t think that Arena Net can pull that off, their system flopped incredibly hard.
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What the hell? We are only getting this crap and the removal of culling? How could this be delayed twice?
Oh, you know, just rewriting the rendering priorities, writing and testing a new traiting structure… you do it faster, then complain.
Delaying progression just so they can throw in culling with it? I doubt even Arena Net could do something that stupid. No, they obviously had problems pushing progression out in 2 months, which means their WvW department is most likely abysmal.
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I don’t put much stake in a 4v6 for the same reason I don’t put much stake in 1v1’s. I play with a shortbow even in duels because it’s what fit my role in AD and our 10-15man groups. I have no intention of respeccing or buying new gear simply because they would be stronger when running solo or in small groups. If it so happens that I get wiped by a group who consistently run ~5man groups, props to them for doing a good job, but I personally couldn’t care less.
Granted, ECHO seems to be running a lot more 1v1-oriented builds, and your D/D eles / mesmers / thieves are slightly more suited for the job.
Theres stake in everything imo. Even if of no concern to anyone else, to me its a personal stake against myself.
1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 5v5, 10v10, or XvY (where X < Y ) are all aspects of the game that outcomes can be effected by such small reactions. Whether it be through pacing attacks, properly dodging burst dmg, proper pacing of condition removal or cooldown management. Its all skill based and can all be improved upon.
And for a group 4v6 to come out fairly unscathed fighting through most of that i feel watching it from the other angle, alot can be improved upon. I especially love videos on us from the enemy perspective because you can see the opportunities the enemy has to attack and how one deals with that attack.
As for 1v1s, Fight Clubs, and all that jazz. I really dont understand why people wouldnt want to do that more if your so interested in WvW. When PPT doesn’t give you anything but some pie-chart to brag about that represents how many npcs and doors you’ve killed. Nothing worthy anything in that aspect of the game imo. Not when this games tiers are dominated by night-capping and population differences.
As for what ECHO runs in terms of builds…. Whats a 1v1 build? I have no idea what people talk about when they say this. We all actively discuss and theorycraft our builds and positions on the field. Just because someone doesnt particularly run all the traits that say “give allies etc” doesnt mean he doesnt have a vital role in the group set up.
I guess you we’re refering to more “self-fish builds”. As to compare the Shout Warrior with a bulls rush, bolay, etc etc etc damage warrior. They have different field positions and uses. The bursty warrior excels and keeping the downed underpressure, especially if you get a couple downed grouped up in the same spot, a high dmg hundred blades could be all you need to make sure those 3 people are not coming back into the fight. Which they allows the team to advance and push the line beyond the focus-point, or the “bomb”.
I understand some builds to be more oriented for focus being on allies rather then yourself. But running 10 people that all do that, doesnt necessarily mean thats better then the people who run a mix, and doesnt actually count out the dps warriors from actually bring in “team support” with the dmg he can provide.
Heres a fun fact, we run our thieves (made the switch a week or so ago) in near full Clerics and Boon Duration gear, completely stealth builds. They run shortbow 90% of the time and are responsible for pick up team mates when downed immediately with SR cover.
While we usually run our elementalists with Dagger/Dagger to keep them up in front with the melee to provide constant boon support and refreshment. As well as having (well i do) runes of Altrusim on my armor and Ether Renewal to get the most AoE might/fury to allies, since ER has the fastest cooldown of all the heals.
Combined with my boon duration. Im giving out 10sec of protection… every 10 secs. Combine the D/D ele with a dps warrior, since the warrior has little access to protection and you’ve got yourself a wrecking ball right there.
Yep, it’s all personal, which is why I said I personally don’t put too much stake in those battles. If you do it, then that’s fine. If the ECHO in the video don’t, then that is also fine. It was merely an attempt from my side to explain why a lot of ECHO players seem unimpressed by what happened in the video, while you seem impressed.
We can argue about what different builds bring to a team all day long, but you can’t argue that a Staff ele would do better in a 1v1 than a D/D ele. Objectively speaking you do run a lot of thieves / mesmers / D/D eles (who traditionally do well in 1v1’s), where AD would run guardians / staff eles / hammer warriors (who usually don’t do as well in 1v1’s). However you did say you have no idea what I meant so I will give you a pass on this one.
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I don’t have much to say to DR. You guys are an enigma. I haven’t seen much of your server in our borderlands this week (where I spend 90% of my time), but when I have they’ve come out of nowhere and steamrolled me and whatever small group I may be roaming with before disappearing into the sunset never to be seen again.
Most of DR will just go where the fighting is the best. We are losing our entire BL to some newbs who would rather PvD an empty BL than fight actual players? Cool, I’m not gonna give a kitten about it though, and neither will our pugs (who make up about 80% of DR’s WvW pop).
That’s why you don’t see us in EBBL, there is rarely any action in there so we only really go there when BP is pushing because Larks is happier when two servers feed him cat treats rather than one.
I think some poster above said it very well.
DR does not have any server goals.
DR does not care about points.
DR only wants to smash red things.
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Do the people in here screaming about Queues and how tier1 are all suckers and need to move down, realise some of the T1 servers don’t have any Queues on the Borderlands for like the last 4months and only ever a EB Queue from like 7-10gmt(and only on some days) for 15mins tops?
Just curious.
Hmm I don’t know, this thread is about the RETURN of queues though, so I guess you can do the thinking for yourself.
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It is the same group.
The asura engi switched to the char guardian and the human warrior switched to the human mesmer.
Still in the beginning, i only counted 4 Ehmry and 6 BP, a 4v6 shouldnt have given them all that much trouble. But they didnt seem to be going into it with much forethought against all the melee/CC/Boons/Stability.
In the 2:19min mark fight it was actually fairly even, its just they didnt coordinated a retreat. One pushed in all alone, while one was completely trapped by CC (why u no stability/invul) and then 3 more we’re just single streaming into the fight. No group up, no invis, more just balls to the wall zerg diving lol probably just trying to have some fun.Personally, bravo
You guys seem like tough customers for BP, dont see many that can put up a solid fight or even bring a strategy with them.
I don’t put much stake in a 4v6 for the same reason I don’t put much stake in 1v1’s. I play with a shortbow even in duels because it’s what fit my role in AD and our 10-15man groups. I have no intention of respeccing or buying new gear simply because they would be stronger when running solo or in small groups. If it so happens that I get wiped by a group who consistently run ~5man groups, props to them for doing a good job, but I personally couldn’t care less.
Granted, ECHO seems to be running a lot more 1v1-oriented builds, and your D/D eles / mesmers / thieves are slightly more suited for the job.
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Adjusted? You mean the range of Leap of Faith? If so, it doesn’t. Mighty Blow is a blast finisher. It doesn’t need range. It already applies some of the most powerful effects to you and your allies with the right combo fields, and it does it every 5 seconds (4 seconds with traits). It also causes significantly more damage than Leap of Faith. It doesn’t need a change. Hell, I will go as far as to say that the three two-handed weapons the Guardian has are balanced. I find myself using each on different occasions by tweaking my major traits slightly.
Adjusted in the sense that quickness screws with it. Kind of like how Heartseeker range is only 50% when you have quickness, rather than moving the same distance but twice as fast.
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I never have skill lag, maybe sometimes in a 3-way battle for Stonemist, but it’s usually only temporary, happening in small spikes even there.
Culling is definitely worse.
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Sounds awesome. Maybe some people will realize that stacking in T1 is a pretty bad idea and move down, making for more balanced tiers.
I hope that there is at least a 1h queue on every T1 map at all times after the patch hit, for at least a month.
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Dont get too kitteny, the match has just started
Quoting this post because it’s fun. EB has increased their lead since the weekend. What gives Kalkz? You ran out of rams?
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Sure I have. Why?
Because such tasks usually performed by such players, especially at offpeak hours. It’s really easy and only requires some perseverance.
They will be done by the players who understand its importance to your server’s effort in WvW.
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You are not ruining anything. The fact is that the things you mentioned will never be performed by 2-4 upleveled players in quest greens and with zero l33t dU3l experience. They will be done by the players who understand its importance to your server’s effort in WvW.
You never seen Vizuna Square or EU T1-T2, right?
Sure I have. Why?
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You are aware that most of these people you see dueling ALSO do solo roaming in WvW right? We’re well aware of the fact that enemies add in randomly during fights. But our enhance ability to track and counter multiple opponents simultaneously makes for MUCH stronger PvPers.
All roaming WvW duties (aka yak sniping, keep portal suppressing, camp raiding and scouting) can be performed by 2-4 upleveled players in quest greens and with zero l33t dU3l experience. Sorry to ruin your shiny world.
You are not ruining anything. The fact is that the things you mentioned will never be performed by 2-4 upleveled players in quest greens and with zero l33t dU3l experience. They will be done by the players who understand its importance to your server’s effort in WvW.
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To the [Love] thief; I didn’t mean no trolling when we killed you earlier, I simply wanted my friend to tag you first.
Good fight!
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[more mad ranting]
You’re a sad, laughable figure aren’t you?
Do you not see the irony inherent in passing judgement on people while also saying they should “get off their high horses”?
Can’t tell if you are trolling or just that blind to the several very valid points s/he makes.
Probably a bit of both
So what you are saying is that DR usually has a queue on maps? His points are not valid at all, anyone can feel superior and act condescending about anything, it’s your choice to ignore them or not.
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This is a great thread.
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Start looking for another game. WvW is beyond any short term fixes. They seem lost on how to fix all the problems and are just making empty promises to keep players as long as they can.
No reason not to try other games out while they figure this one out.
But that’s the problem isn’t it? There are so many blatant things about WvW that need to be fixed, and the devs are doing absolutely nothing about it.
On the same coin, I WANT to play GW2. I want my 2,000+ hours invested in this game to feel worthwhile. I know that with Ascended gear, I need to keep playing to make sure I don’t fall behind. It’s without a doubt one of the best games I have ever played, but I don’t know how long these empty promises can keep me playing. It’s building so much frustration with so many players. With some easy fixes and changes WvW could keep me occupied for years, but Arena Net seem to intent on doing nothing, so you are kind of stuck in a limbo. You either keep developing your characters and hope for the fixes, or you quit and fall behind, only to come back when the fixes are in place. Friends too come and go. Right now I make new friends in WvW quicker than friends quit. But if I don’t play for a few months? I would probably not know anyone in the game, something that would keep me from playing.
I mean, the ‘big’ patch is coming in a week, and still we have yet to hear anything about it. What gives, Arena Net?
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Yummy! BP makes for excellent loot bags.
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Yes, someone bought a tonne of them up in preparation for the chest nerf so they can sell them for 2-3x the price once it settles.
Arena Net announcing stuff like this beforehand is just really funny, shows with how little finesse they run the TP.
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So much for that walabone guy, I made his record a little less exaggerated 150-10. Please let me know if you’d like your k/d to go down further.
inb4 Mesmer confusion is OP
inb4 Ranger is OP
inb4 Guardian is Op
Inb4 Ele is OpYeah all of these professions beat him.
Someone give this guy an Internet Toughguy Award.
-K
Someone pay some attention to this guy’s post. The first time is always special.
Oh wait, I already did. Carry on people.
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Thank you to everyone who came to our St. Patrick’s Day Crawl! And a special thanks to Ebay for all the badges! I think my K/D spread was like 150-5; I kinda felt a little embarrassed for dying that much to baddies. Hopefully my server won’t think less of me
Only cool people brag about killing baddies on the forums. It’s true!
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[FTF] Guild Harlem Shake before we took bay at Borlis Pass bl last night.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9DXK5rsAL8M
Did you not release inside and proceeded to call out siege placement and tactics being utilized?
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Fun fighting tonight.
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Ehmry is being Double teamed. We controlled everything and now BP and DR are both taking stuff that we controlled back. Clearly their is a super secret Alliance between BP and DR otherwise they would be attacking eachother instead of taking all of Ebays stuff… Freakin jerkz
Had you not noticed the beautifully Red left side of Borlis Pass and the beautifully green right side of Borlis Pass? and 1 1/2 hours into reset EBay was knocking on our North East Garry gate and DR was hitting south west… Then DR and EBay met at center gate it was a race to cap between the two?
I have no clue what the hell happened to Borlis this reset, none of our top guilds seemed to be around. [BURN] was defending, ORL attacking, didn’t hear from GOAT, Dkz, WFD, etc…
In the end, hell of a reset night Ebay, stomping our kitten ..
Also [FTF] from Ebay, loved the action at BP Hills on reset night, fun fight, great fight, wiped each other several times.. all it took was that one stealthed mesmer portal and ya’ll pulled through, nicely done. Well deserved.
You conveniently left out the fact that EB then proceeded to capture everything we had in BPBL.
And I know we stomped a ton of groups from WFD last night, so they were definitely around.
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Hahaha everyone gets full credit?
Oh my god there will be so much kill trading, timer or no timer.
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Some interesting fighting tonight, mostly zergs and small-mans running the typical boring D/D eles, thieves, confusion mesmers etc but what can you expect from reset night? AD/NoQQ/BSty played well for most of the night and I hope we could offer you guys some level of challenge when we weren’t zerged down by 40+ people.
Feeling kinda flattered having both Ebay and DR hitting us at the same time non-stop. Tough night of playing with nothing but “zergs” rolling in from both sides. Less fun than last week since there are a lot fewer skirmish matches at least in the Blue area of EB and no three way battles for SM. Hopefully EBay and DR realize they can attack each other at some point.
SoCo swapped maps after an hour or so, which left the 15 people from AD/NoQQ/BSty. If that qualifies as a zerg or getting “hit hard” then I don’t know what. EB has had insane amounts of people tonight, more similar to what we saw the last time we faced them when we would consistently see 650+ potential for them. They will get their fair weathers to come on, and yours will leave.
I seriously hope Kalkz has a huge amount of rams stashed away, or you will have more trouble winning this week.
Dont get too kitteny, the match has just started
I don’t know man, EB has accumulated a lead almost as big as the one you won with last week, and that’s from only one night. If we see the same thing happen tonight there is no way you are going to win this match up.
DR moving down for sure though, which is awesome. Too long have we been stuck in a tier we don’t belong in after the departure of our biggest guilds.
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Some interesting fighting tonight, mostly zergs and small-mans running the typical boring D/D eles, thieves, confusion mesmers etc but what can you expect from reset night? AD/NoQQ/BSty played well for most of the night and I hope we could offer you guys some level of challenge when we weren’t zerged down by 40+ people.
Feeling kinda flattered having both Ebay and DR hitting us at the same time non-stop. Tough night of playing with nothing but “zergs” rolling in from both sides. Less fun than last week since there are a lot fewer skirmish matches at least in the Blue area of EB and no three way battles for SM. Hopefully EBay and DR realize they can attack each other at some point.
SoCo swapped maps after an hour or so, which left the 15 people from AD/NoQQ/BSty. If that qualifies as a zerg or getting “hit hard” then I don’t know what. EB has had insane amounts of people tonight, more similar to what we saw the last time we faced them when we would consistently see 650+ potential for them. They will get their fair weathers to come on, and yours will leave.
I seriously hope Kalkz has a huge amount of rams stashed away, or you will have more trouble winning this week.
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Wow, why this drama? Yeah, Initialise doesn’t really have the best WvW ethics, at least from what I have seen during fight club, but there is absolutely no reason to come to the forums and drop both name and guild tag.
You could have easily solved this by just PM’ing him, no need to drag his guild into the dirt because you disagree with one member.
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Jeez, you guys in Ebay fill up our BL all night and cap everything against a handful of defenders, then when we we wake up and do the same to you a few hours later, you insult us about it? Nothing wrong with uneven fights, it’s part of the game, but at least show a little bit of self-awareness.
Self-awareness? I don’t think you really understand where this argument stemmed from, if you did you wouldn’t post what you did.
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In my defense, I constantly lay down radiation field!
