Guild Wars 2

Kalkz.5297:

Archer.1658:

Oh what happened BP? Got Smashed? Inb4excuses

Naw

8 in the morning on a work day.

Well played man!

Vol.5241:

I wonder if it’s against the TOS for me to offer GW2 gold to offer someone to help me achieve GW1 HOM stuff?

The stuff to get points, is that soulbound? Or can you sell some stuff to me that I’ll pay in GW2 gold?

Please don’t ban me again ;_;

It can all be obtained with money, nothing is really soul bound, unless you count titles (which can be obtained by paying people to run you through missions etc).

apropos.8571:

I just want enough for the baby dead chicken!

I play GW2 and am obsessed with getting every achievement possible. But for some reason, in GW I never got into any of it. I found it frustrating instead of fun. So, the BDC will have to wait until I can figure out how to get the last 7 points I need.

apropos.8571:

I just want enough for the baby dead chicken!

I play GW2 and am obsessed with getting every achievement possible. But for some reason, in GW I never got into any of it. I found it frustrating instead of fun. So, the BDC will have to wait until I can figure out how to get the last 7 points I need.

PM me in-game and I’ll help you out.

So I play on Far Shiverpeaks, not the best server, but not the worst either. We usually do pretty well during prime time, capturing most stuff and pushing far into several zones. Point is, we almost always hold our own when we have people online. But something has started irking me a lot these past few days, the immense amount of night capping going on when we are all asleep. It is not uncommon for me to wake up, and then having to start the first few events! Everything you worked so hard for the night before, is just gone. It’s really lame that this problem has been allowed to persist, and that nothing has been done about it from Arena Net’s side. It costs me a lot of money every day, in repairs for example, to get everything on the maps back. The NPC’s are just not strong enough to hold on to them during the night. Unless you fix this asap, I don’t know how long I can bother to keep playing this game. Here’s a couple of suggestions for a fix;

- A 16h lock out period on 70+ PvE maps, where no events take place.
- Make the Pact soldiers stronger, and / or the Risen weaker, so that we won’t lose stuff so easily during the night.

Arena Net, stop ignoring the elephant in the room. Deal with Night Capping…

KStudios.2850:

Kalkz.5297:

I Guess Ebay gave us everything today at night, Still not enough to match Borlis Pass. nice try, I LOVE how i hear you call our zergs and guilds are a joke and you turn into forum warriors inside your forums and trash Borlis Pass. the server that came from t6 and now is 30k points ahead of you

And then play off as if you’re not doing the same, lol. Thump louder, I can’t hear you atop this mountainous adrenaline high I’m riding right now. Here, just for you my dubious friend (See below).

Might want to tell your ranks to tighten up though. Two of your overzealous ones jumped ahead of the tri-golem toting zerg and I tore them apart in defending Klovan alone before getting flattened myself.

You count us out too soon methinks. Also, thanks for leaving your golems parked outside our Garrison while capping. You’ll find they’re no longer there. Should’ve got Lojack? =)

This seems like something BP does often. This picture is from the other night.

BUT we realized why they are doing it. As soon as we captured the tower, the worker did indeed start attacking, preventing us from upgrading for a good ~10min.

Strategy guys. Learn it.

I just realized that this WvW patch will come around easter. So it’s probably just a lot of re textured crap. Catapults shoot easter eggs and such.

On April 1st, they will put up a big blog post describing massive changes to WvW. New cosmetic progression, tons of exploits fixed, flyhacking fixed through an extensive anti-cheat system, orbs added back but with a different functionality, dead players have different colored names, you can no longer see anything around you after having been dead for 2min, AoE cap removed and replaced with diminishing returns. Of course it will be riddled with profession changes a’la GW1, but instead of being ludicrous like those, they will actually make sense, because Arena Net has no clue how to balance their game.

The next day they will reveal the obvious, that it was all just a joke in the spirit of April 1st, and that “major” WvW changes are expected some time this summer, including a “massive” and “living” event that will “change” the world of WvW “forever”. Basically they will remove the lake in BL’s and replace it with a big black hole after Primordius escaped the under bowels of Tyria from there. There will obviously be no PvP elements to these events, and they will be a massive lagcrap fest kind of like the Karka events in Lion Arch. They will, however, introduce 2 new dungeons and at least 4 new events in the (PvE) world, along with a PvE exclusive way of obtaining full Ascended gear that in 5 months will be available for 1500 BoH’s a piece. Also, they will include a massive cosmetic update that consists of an entire WvW-centric title, “Revive 1,500,000 players in WvW” that no one will ever be able to get.

I have faith in you Arena Net; you can do it!

Is this the big blog post Mike Ferguson was talking about? We get some crap about culling that we already knew of, and no info about other stuff that will be in the patch.

I guess March patch will be a disappointment after all.

Or maybe it’s proccing on clones?

Which would be kittening awesome. Broken, but awesome.

My honest opinion is that EB is the most organized server out of all three in this match up. They consistently make use of better strategy, whereas BP and DR quite often compensate with numbers.

BP too, doesn’t seem to understand the relationship that DR has with EB. Last time we met our match up was all rose petals (well, with the exception of the whine from Archer and Jinks), and many of us have formed good relationships with players from the other server respectively.

BP kinda acts like that kitten who comes in and don’t know how to act in a new group of people, throwing insults around for no good reason at all, which is why you will see some people get mad about it. There really is no need for chest thumping or insults about how bad DR and EB is, because at least I really don’t care about what you say. I am still having a ton of awesome fighting in this tier, I mean, a few days ago I had an epic three-way battle for 2-3 hours in Ruins on DRBL. I put my commander tag off for that kitten yo.

One thing… The EB nerds who run 3-4 D/P thieves like they are all that? Screw you guys you suck so hard it’s not even funny l2p srsly.

Queue for DR in EB on a Sunday… Hasn’t happened in months it feels like. Nice to see we can still gather up a fair amount of players.

And seriously, epic 3-way battles for SM seems to be the norm in this match up, and I’m loving it.

IDarko.4709:

Basic pvp tricks. Nothing new. Heck, I easily ignore the guardian bubble on my thief using shadowstep. Start animation, shadowstep away and ss back when the gaurdian wasted his bubble.

Signet of Shadows?

Anyway, it’s neat when you do this but not really deserving of the title Stomp of the Year, especially not in all caps lock. It’s just one of many basic stomping tricks.

For Faux Sake.8457:

Gab Superstar.4059:

pixieish.9627:

Well, it was fun at first desperately fighting off Borlis Pass as they began intruding into our corner of the Eternal Battlegrounds…

…but once Ehmry Bay began pushing in from the west, well, gets kind of disheartening being double teamed like that…

Yes it’s quite weird really. They spend so much time trying to take a T3 keep when taking a paper tower from BP would almost accomplish the same thing point-wise. The only thing that’s gonna happen if they take VK is that they will leave a paper keep for BP to take tomorrow during the time they seem to be much stronger than both the other servers.

Or is EB afraid of a massive come-back from DR?

What massive comeback are you talking about? Our scores have been neck and neck this whole match lol.

I guess you look at it differently then, I personally believe BP will be the server to beat if you want to win this tier.

pixieish.9627:

Well, it was fun at first desperately fighting off Borlis Pass as they began intruding into our corner of the Eternal Battlegrounds…

…but once Ehmry Bay began pushing in from the west, well, gets kind of disheartening being double teamed like that…

Yes it’s quite weird really. They spend so much time trying to take a T3 keep when taking a paper tower from BP would almost accomplish the same thing point-wise. The only thing that’s gonna happen if they take VK is that they will leave a paper keep for BP to take tomorrow during the time they seem to be much stronger than both the other servers.

Or is EB afraid of a massive come-back from DR?

Syeria.4812:

Gab Superstar.4059:

Pendragon.8735:

kingkillar.6714:

what about servers that dont get queues but still suffer from opponents outnumbering them?

The idea there was to encourage low population servers to actually congregate to one map, instead of being spread out outnumbered everywhere. By filling out one map they would not only be more successful together, but they would be fighting on the map worth the most points, since it would be the only one with an orb in it.

Too often outnumbered servers have a few people in every map, and can’t get anything really accomplished in any of them.

I don’t know how bad the situation is in the bottom couple tiers, but I would hope that even there, most servers can hit 75% of the player limit in at least 1 out of the 4 maps, certainly during the main 6-8 prime hours on their server.

This wouldn’t help low tier server at all I think. It would just make the winning server win by even more points. Why work for the points when they can easily be obtained in an empty map?

You’d be surprised how far low tier servers go to avoid actually fighting for their points. Talking about T5 and lower, from experience.

You either didn’t read the OP or didn’t understand it then. Those points wouldn’t happen if the map was empty. As the OP noted, the orb would only exist if certain population thresholds were reached by all three servers on the same map.

Yes, but you still don’t understand do you? Why bother meeting that threshold just for a few points when you can go into an empty map and PvD for them instead?

Option A: Struggle for a few points in a map with high amount of people from all servers.

Option B: Take easy points in a map with no players from the other servers around.

Pendragon.8735:

kingkillar.6714:

what about servers that dont get queues but still suffer from opponents outnumbering them?

The idea there was to encourage low population servers to actually congregate to one map, instead of being spread out outnumbered everywhere. By filling out one map they would not only be more successful together, but they would be fighting on the map worth the most points, since it would be the only one with an orb in it.

Too often outnumbered servers have a few people in every map, and can’t get anything really accomplished in any of them.

I don’t know how bad the situation is in the bottom couple tiers, but I would hope that even there, most servers can hit 75% of the player limit in at least 1 out of the 4 maps, certainly during the main 6-8 prime hours on their server.

This wouldn’t help low tier server at all I think. It would just make the winning server win by even more points. Why work for the points when they can easily be obtained in an empty map?

You’d be surprised how far low tier servers go to avoid actually fighting for their points. Talking about T5 and lower, from experience.

pixieish.9627:

I’m actually shocked to see that not only does DR still hold some territory, it holds Stonemist Castle. Usually it all gets stolen away while the majority of us sleep. Whoever this mysterious night crew is, keep it up! That is, if it’s a night crew, and not the day crew pulling an all nighter.

I actually logged in right before Vars logged off, and right as I was about to leave Bluevalle and Prizzmo showed up.

Had some fun action with both BP and EB during the ~4 hours I commanded.

Archer.1658:

Not really sure why ADQQSTY are complaining about numbers/portal bombs they were running 15-20 people at their peak, that should have been plenty right?

We actually had 17 people at our peak. When the portal bombing happened we had ~10 though. Not saying GH didn’t play well at that supply camp, since it was obviously the case. What you have to realize is that there are two things Dynnen hates in this world; culling and the AoE cap. Portal bombing him with a larger force will always tickle him in all the wrong spots.

Luzano.6983:

Looking forward to roaming and fighting ADBStyNoQQQWERTYUIOPABCDEFGHIJKLMOPQRSTUVWXYZ this week.

Miss Winters, we gotta finish that 1v1.

Fighting mesmers is just crazy intense and most fights are over if I make the smallest mistake, it will have to be on a day I can afford to be stressed out haha.

Wizardauz.3761:

dreztina.4820:

ECHO? What happened to GF?

Well we’re originally FTF, we’re just a squad branch of the guild made up of the hardcores. But we’re still FTF in the end, it was more just relate back to our name, Five-K (or Thousand) Finishers.

When I first saw Terrorizyn I was like “ECHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO” but then when he told me there were only three people playing I got sad We still trashed them 15v3 like kittens on every opportunity we had though, for good measure

Good fighting everyone, reset was just crazy. BP was in the lead, EB was in the lead, now I wake up and DR is in the lead! I am sure EB’s stronger population will eventually wither the other two servers down. Regarding BP, I actually think they have a chance at beating DR. We didn’t stomp them too bad last time we met, and we have lost several large guilds since.

For Faux Sake.8457:

Dynnen.6405:

Also ya know what Faux (yes I know how it is pronounced), your name looks like you’re trying to bypass the language filter…

….. MOAR BRAINZ….

Does my name offend you? Sorry for having offended your delicate feelings.

While you’re thumping your chest, keeping that testosterone pumping, we’ll still be defending what we have and taking what we can. We’ve lost a few times tonight as well as a group, but you won’t hear our excuses here. Here’s a shout-out for the [BURN] guild for especially intense fights.

Dynnen, if you want to QQ on the official forums for wiping a few times, then I look forward to a week more of your whiny posts because it happens to everyone regardless of which side they are on.

You should have portal bombed that time in ruins too. I got at least 79 badges from that fight alone.

Shadow step? Blink? JI?`

Stealth stomping?

Baladir.2736:

pixieish.9627:

To the glorious, skillful, barely present SBI, who are constantly fighting off the hordes of IoJ and DR, outnumbered 10-1! Given how from what I’ve read there really is only five of you fighting against, oh, what is it, a thousand of us online? …I hereby congratulate you on your brilliant tactics, your helpful comments on how IoJ and DR should be teaming up against you, and I trust that, on your journey to Tier 4, you will use your brilliant skills in killing constant hordes many times your size and your astounding diplomatic skills to organize other servers to your cause and will swiftly defeat Maguuma and make your way up to Tier 3.

Lol. As an SBI player, I still have to agree with you.

The reaon we were kicked down to this Tier had everything to do with being outmanned ourselves. You would think we would have learned to recognize it.

Perhaps the competitive match up the last two weeks has significantly increased turnout on SBI to the point we will be competitive in Tier 4. idk. But, while it started out as competitive, it turned into a big zerg at the end here. Almost to the point of being bad sportsmanship imo. As much of a beating SBI took getting kicked from Tier 1 to Tier 5 one would think they would recognize if you get to the point where you are beating the snot out of someone, it’s a good time to stop if you want them to keep playing with you.

No doubt, the beating will be explained as an attempt to get back to Tier 4 where no doubt the beaters believe we belong. We’ll see. Last time we were there we got regulary stomped with much better coverage and never had a chance. I thought the matchups here in Tier 5 were looking pretty good.

My prediction? We will be back lol. Maybe next time we wil be a little bit better behaved and you all together will have better strats to stretch our resources.

Used to be when I was a kid, when we played pick up games we would sometimes swap players between teams so they would be competitive. Even professional sports do a version of that. geez, you would think from looking at the WvW state of this game no one ever considered running up the score is a bad idea. What a bunch of putzs this game has.

Yep, T5 really is the worst tier ever. A server from T4 will always drop down and stomp the other two servers, and it’s not fun for anyone.

DoggyPaddler.3586:

Some roaming from BSW. Berm

http://youtu.be/Ak9XmF5z3ME

Cool.

- Include TS chat (if any). Prevents the vid from getting stale.
- Try to edit out the parts where you are just cleaning up low levels and stuff after a fight.
- Highlighting skill usage with slow motion is good, but keep those segments short and focused on the ability in question (mostly referring to the slow motion at the start, the stun is well placed, but you keep using slow motion for quite a while after).

Generally a good video though. Good luck in T4.

Honestly I am not trying to thump my chest here but it is exceedingly rare for AD / NoQQ / BSty to get wiped by equal numbers. When it happens we always give props to whoever beat us (Echo Squad from EB, for example).

The reason that you see DR people posting about how we win fights outmanned, is because a lot of the people who post from DR are in AD.

What exactly do you want us to do? Post about how we kittenstomp an unorganized pug group of underleveled people simply because we had equal numbers? No, we won’t. We realize that they could never beat an organized group like ours, and we never take pride in beating them either. We will post about the good fights. Obviously good fights can only happen when the fighting is even, and that can only happen between an organized group and an unorganized one, when the unorganized one has enough people to compensate for their lack of organization. When we finally do get overwhelmed, do you want us to lie and say that is was the huge strategical mindset of SBI that allowed you to wipe us? No. We will rightfully say that it was because you outnumbered us horribly. That you chose to take this as some kind of personal insult, is laughable really.

I never claimed you had 40-man zergs on all maps at all times, that is something you made up in your mind. DR often wins in prime time, and unlike many people from SBI I realize that this can only happen when numbers are greater or similar to your foes’.

Furthermore, I think it’s quite laughable that you compare PvD when you have the numbers to defend, but choose not to, to the PvD that goes on during the day time by guilds like Kiwi, KT, AoD and AUS. I am not trying to hate on them here, they obviously serve a valuable role in your server’s success (the most valuable, even). The best example of PvD from DR during this match up would be yesterday, when we flipped almost all of EB with little to no resistance.

Out of all posters in these threads, you are the one who has spent the most effort into derailing them, through your snide remarks about how everyone you disagree with from DR being a troll etc. I have personally danced on your corpse on every occasion I have had the chance to, not because I am a huge kitten (the people from SBI who has spoken to me can attest to that), but because I feel you deserve this. I seriously hope you get over this cuddly tuddly mindset that everyone must be fair and not hurt other players feelings through truthful posts, because I for one think it’s really annoying. It would indeed have been better if you chose to stop posting when you told yourself to.

Sucks in lower tiers.

But Arena Net will of course cater to the majority.

Zhokora.7048:

I don’t really post much but I feel this is worth saying.

I have only the highest respect for IOJ and DR and I think the majority of SBI’s core players do as well. The match up in this tier has had some of the strongest and most challenging battles I’ve personally been a part of through my entire history with SBI (been around since day 1).

It should be remembered that in the first week we dropped into this tier that the battles were pitched and evenly matched and in the end the servers had (if I remember correctly) mostly even scores with maybe ~20k variance between 1st and 2nd compared to the usual 100-200k blow outs you see first place servers have in any tier.

Sadly, from there the gap has only grown due to the ‘fairweather’ players fleeing the battlefields on IOJ and DR’s side while our own have come back to bolster the numbers once more. Of that, there’s already been lengthy discourses about and not much more need be said.

World scores do not give justice to the intensity of the battles and constant surprises that I have found SBI being faced with at all hours of the day. DR and IOJ have never given up and that is what counts above anything else. All I can say is keep at it and I wish DR and IOJ all the best in their next match ups.

/salute o7

Also as an aside, any fight clubs going on before we all move on tonight?

Score during first week was 110k difference, not 20k.

And yes, I will be at DR windmill 2 hours before reset.

Dream In A Dream.7213:

MosesZD.7428:

To the DR Forum Warriors:

Has it ever occurred to you that you lose because you make fundamental mistakes? Take the simultaneous garrison assaults last night (DR & SBI).

30 of you were on SBI trying to take our garrison with a golem rush while 30 of us were on DR trying to take yours using rams. We had nobody defending garrison but a lookout. YOU had at least 20, mostly AoE specialists (and of that, a LOT of longbow rangers), defending your keep.

When we heard you were trying to take ours, HALF of us went back and wiped you guys right as you broke through the inner gate while the other half remained to keep the pressure on while having inferior numbers. *In our defense of our Garrison, besides being out-numbered, we had no siege, no time to prepare as we barely, within seconds of your busing the inner gate down, made it into the inner keep way point. *

Despite being out-numbered by our choice, we, true to our expectations, wiped you. While out manned. The floor was red with DR bodies and I got somewhere around 10 bags. Your zerg never made it to the Lord’s room, dying in the supply courtyard.

Let’s compare that to your garrison defense.

During our assault on your garrison it took us 45-minutes to burn down your seige that you spent 1700 supply MOST OF WHICH YOU WASTED ON BUILDING MORE SIEGE THAT WE KEPT DESTROYING.

Not that it was ‘easy.’ You repeatedly, with your massive AoE knocked our squishy guys down so the heavies had to keep getting them up. And getting them up was a chore because you had multiple catapults and mortars you’d pound us with. But we did it, despite the ground being red with AoE circles and no place to dodge.

Beyond that, you must have had close to a dozen arrow carts in and around the Lord’s Room where we couldn’t take it down from the inner keep. When we broke in, with you having PLENTY OF TIME TO BRING IN REINFORCEMENTS from your SBI wipe, GIVING YOU YET ANOTHER NUMBERS ADVANTAGE, plus all those arrow carts, we still wiped you. And while we were wiping you, you respawned at Citadel, hit the just opened waypoint at Garrison and rushed in again. Where we kept wiping you, despite the constant stream of reinforcements.

So, even with all the siege, and having greater numbers AND the tactical advantage of the citadel-short-run-back and your own waypoint, you lost.

You had us out-manned on SBI. You, in the end, had us out-manned and with multiple tactical advantages on DR. And yet you lost. Twice. With more people (in total) than us in both fights.

So, I say, look to yourselves. Stop pointing fingers. Stop acting like it’s ‘superior SBI numbers.’ It’s not numbers. It’s how you play the game.

A good vent there mate, but thats not really what happened.
You do realize that you had at least 40 players(not counting culling) there.
And another group of at least 20. The thing to realize for you is yes we make mistakes, and we do a lot of them. But that doesn’t mean that your ability to field consistent numbers like that isn’t a major factor. And yes you finally took it when most of our people already went to sleep. Great job.

I am one of those people who is ok with you having more numbers and coverage. I am also not saying anything about skill. Hell I am a casual player myself. But please don’t delude yourself that what you were doing at Gar yesterday was strategy that was working.

And people who upgraded gar, and sieged it, ty. That was the first time this week we held SBI zerg for this long. And considering the numbers the had, it was worth it.

Lion of the Wind
RgTg/SoCo

Actually we held Garrison for ~ 9h this Wednesday during day time. Numbers varied obviously but when SBI finally took it it was about 30 SBI vs 15 DR. If you want more info you can read about the defense hour-by-hour in my 5 paragraph post on page 4 of this thread.

Oh wait…

MosesZD.7428:

To the DR Forum Warriors:

Has it ever occurred to you that you lose because you make fundamental mistakes? Take the simultaneous garrison assaults last night (DR & SBI).

30 of you were on SBI trying to take our garrison with a golem rush while 30 of us were on DR trying to take yours using rams. We had nobody defending garrison but a lookout. YOU had at least 20, mostly AoE specialists (and of that, a LOT of longbow rangers), defending your keep.

When we heard you were trying to take ours, HALF of us went back and wiped you guys right as you broke through the inner gate while the other half remained to keep the pressure on while having inferior numbers. *In our defense of our Garrison, besides being out-numbered, we had no siege, no time to prepare as we barely, within seconds of your busing the inner gate down, made it into the inner keep way point. *

Despite being out-numbered by our choice, we, true to our expectations, wiped you. While out manned. The floor was red with DR bodies and I got somewhere around 10 bags. Your zerg never made it to the Lord’s room, dying in the supply courtyard.

Let’s compare that to your garrison defense.

During our assault on your garrison it took us 45-minutes to burn down your seige that you spent 1700 supply MOST OF WHICH YOU WASTED ON BUILDING MORE SIEGE THAT WE KEPT DESTROYING.

Not that it was ‘easy.’ You repeatedly, with your massive AoE knocked our squishy guys down so the heavies had to keep getting them up. And getting them up was a chore because you had multiple catapults and mortars you’d pound us with. But we did it, despite the ground being red with AoE circles and no place to dodge.

Beyond that, you must have had close to a dozen arrow carts in and around the Lord’s Room where we couldn’t take it down from the inner keep. When we broke in, with you having PLENTY OF TIME TO BRING IN REINFORCEMENTS from your SBI wipe, GIVING YOU YET ANOTHER NUMBERS ADVANTAGE, plus all those arrow carts, we still wiped you. And while we were wiping you, you respawned at Citadel, hit the just opened waypoint at Garrison and rushed in again. Where we kept wiping you, despite the constant stream of reinforcements.

So, even with all the siege, and having greater numbers AND the tactical advantage of the citadel-short-run-back and your own waypoint, you lost.

You had us out-manned on SBI. You, in the end, had us out-manned and with multiple tactical advantages on DR. And yet you lost. Twice. With more people (in total) than us in both fights.

So, I say, look to yourselves. Stop pointing fingers. Stop acting like it’s ‘superior SBI numbers.’ It’s not numbers. It’s how you play the game.

That we lose because we make fundamental mistakes? No, that’s not something even closely resembling truth.

We might have lost Garrison because whoever was in Garrison made fundamental mistakes, but we lost the match up because we don’t have your coverage.

I was about ready to take a screenshot every hour during a 24-hour period, just to show you how often we actually are outmanned, but then most of the SBI people seemed to accept the fact that you had superior coverage. Everyone except you I suppose.

KinkyGiraffe.4123:

Gab Superstar.4059:

KinkyGiraffe.4123:

Gab Superstar.4059:

KinkyGiraffe.4123:

I love everyone stating the obvious…of course we got your map by PvDooring lol, we only had 10 people…
Started on the map with 3 and more trickled in as we took hills and bay (With 1 omega and 3 mesmers TIMEWARP BABY) then got a second omega up for garrison, woodhaven and that other tower…its funny that there was no resistance until we got to your last tower, didnt expect the response to be that slow DR, but if by taking your map i have secured our spot in T5 for the next week, its safe to say ive done my job (i clearly havent because we’re still going to drop)

Youre crazy if you think i was going to try and push out in EB when it was clear SBI were pushing hard there, how many times have DR pushed on our borderlands whilst we get wiped by SBI in Eternal?

Response time is low? Try population at 6am honey.

You guys had about 8? people in your last tower building siege which killed our golems
But before then, saw maybe 1 or 2 DR in Hills and 1 ele in the garrison.
Now over on IoJ when SBI stormed our keep with 30-40 people and we only had 4 or so on the map, call out in lions arch/to other commanders, easily tripled our numbers in minutes. Cant be saying you only had those 8 people on your server at that time,

Other… Commanders? Yeah, no. Those 8 people were probably the only ones in all of WvW at that time. And tripling our numbers? It’s still 5-6am in the morning.

Oh and btw, much love IoJ.

When i did the call out it was 4am in the morning

Psst, our part of the pie was bigger

Okay. Fine. You win. IoJ really is the better server. You have superior organization, coordination, and siege capabilities.

EDIT: Fight club is still on.

Gab Superstar.4059:

- DR windmill.
- Stomping someone will get you killed, no interference from allies.
- Feel free to party up and talk after duels.
- Only emote allowed (and required) is /bow before & after a duel.
- Leave rage, insults, derogatory stuff at home.
- Will go on for as long as I can stay up.
- No sigil stacks, no skale venom, no blessings.
- Tap a player to challenge. /yes or /no to reply. Respect this decision.

Cheers everyone.

KinkyGiraffe.4123:

Gab Superstar.4059:

KinkyGiraffe.4123:

I love everyone stating the obvious…of course we got your map by PvDooring lol, we only had 10 people…
Started on the map with 3 and more trickled in as we took hills and bay (With 1 omega and 3 mesmers TIMEWARP BABY) then got a second omega up for garrison, woodhaven and that other tower…its funny that there was no resistance until we got to your last tower, didnt expect the response to be that slow DR, but if by taking your map i have secured our spot in T5 for the next week, its safe to say ive done my job (i clearly havent because we’re still going to drop)

Youre crazy if you think i was going to try and push out in EB when it was clear SBI were pushing hard there, how many times have DR pushed on our borderlands whilst we get wiped by SBI in Eternal?

Response time is low? Try population at 6am honey.

You guys had about 8? people in your last tower building siege which killed our golems
But before then, saw maybe 1 or 2 DR in Hills and 1 ele in the garrison.
Now over on IoJ when SBI stormed our keep with 30-40 people and we only had 4 or so on the map, call out in lions arch/to other commanders, easily tripled our numbers in minutes. Cant be saying you only had those 8 people on your server at that time,

Other… Commanders? Yeah, no. Those 8 people were probably the only ones in all of WvW at that time. And tripling our numbers? It’s still 5-6am in the morning.

Oh and btw, much love IoJ.

Rising Dusk.2408:

Bah, just missed it then. I could’ve dragged my guild out, too. Oh well, hope you all had fun.

If you want to I can go back there and see who I can drag along.

Rising Dusk.2408:

Maladon.5760:

I’m assuming there’s a thinly veiled insult in the making

I don’t want to make assumptions.

Also, is fight club over? I literally just got off of work and showed up at the windmill and only some SBI were there.

Yep, not many showed up from SBI or IoJ. Figured half of your server wanted a chance at killing me but nope

KinkyGiraffe.4123:

I love everyone stating the obvious…of course we got your map by PvDooring lol, we only had 10 people…
Started on the map with 3 and more trickled in as we took hills and bay (With 1 omega and 3 mesmers TIMEWARP BABY) then got a second omega up for garrison, woodhaven and that other tower…its funny that there was no resistance until we got to your last tower, didnt expect the response to be that slow DR, but if by taking your map i have secured our spot in T5 for the next week, its safe to say ive done my job (i clearly havent because we’re still going to drop)

Youre crazy if you think i was going to try and push out in EB when it was clear SBI were pushing hard there, how many times have DR pushed on our borderlands whilst we get wiped by SBI in Eternal?

Response time is low? Try population at 6am honey.

Some very good duels, SBI has been represented very well by a certain guardian but we need more people from IoJ and SBI!

Oh and it would be nice if you could get the message out for those who don’t frequent the forums. The more the merrier.

Pentzski.4620:

Kyuzo.4675:

Might be the last chance for a while to fight with each other if the scores continue as predicted. So this is a good chance to have a farewell FIGHTCLUB

Sometime tomorrow would probably be good timing. You might even get a chance to smack down a “forum warrior” or just chill and practice fighting different classes since most people that actually show up to these things are pretty easygoing.

Sometime around 8pm-9pm server time and/or maybe even one during “Euro” hours between 11am-1pm server time?

Post if interested and we can find a BL at the traditional spot.

Bumping this post in hopes of attracting more attention to a large fight club tonight.

We were actually thinking of having a fight club in 40 minutes. I know at least 4 AD players will show up.

- DR windmill.
- Stomping someone will get you killed, no interference from allies.
- Feel free to party up and talk after duels.
- Only emote allowed (and required) is /bow before & after a duel.
- Leave rage, insults, derogatory stuff at home.
- Will go on for as long as I can stay up.
- No sigil stacks, no skale venom, no blessings.
- Tap a player to challenge. /yes or /no to reply. Respect this decision.

Cheers everyone.

Rising Dusk.2408:

Attic, I recognize that oftentimes people cannot deal with stress and resort to lashing out at others, but that is something that can be tempered. These sorts of threads can be quite exceptional; I distinctly remember how much fun the T4 thread was when we were losing against YB and CD. Sure we were outmanned, and sure people complained about it, but the general flow of the thread was positive, and everyone walked out of the match-up treating the others with respect. That is what these threads should be about.

Dynnen.6405:

Well this isn’t exactly a tickling competition is it?

No, but neither is it a battle of egos.

Honestly why pretend for the sake of pretending? The T5 threads with EB were also friendly and calm. What do you think changed, our perception of the match up (now with SBI in it), or our perception of what should or should not be in a match up thread?

You cannot expect people to treat each other in a certain way for no other reason than that you say so.

I don’t think it will be worth it to purchase it with Badges unless you are a hard core WvW’ player who wouldn’t touch FotM with a stick.

That being said, I am very interested in these new skins that Arena Net are talking about, so I will hold on hard to whatever badges I can scrap together until then.

I would like to see less emphasis on how much gold a server can throw at WvW. My server has a few dedicated people who spend all they got on siege and upgrades but most of the times it is simply not enough, especially when fighting servers with higher coverage.

A basic “chip-in” system would go a long way (when an upgrade is queued, you get an upgrade where you can chip in a few silver). The issue with siege would not be such an issue if everyone used their siege, but this is often down to commanders to drop siege since they are the ones who know exactly where they want to place it, how they want to face it and such. Perhaps something like a mailbox in your citadel where people who don’t know how to use it can drop their siege to specific players or commanders.

KinkyGiraffe.4123:

Much love DR
You guys had our EB keep upgraded to waypoint before your own? O.o

Yes, SBI has actually defended our side of EB unlike yours. The result was that we captured your entire side of EB before getting VK back.

But yeah GJ PvDing. We had a ton of fun PvD’ing earlier today. Had something like 350 PPT. I don’t understand how SBI likes to do it every day though, it does get tiresome.

Haha, love the chat too. It’s almost as if people are amazed that IoJ / you accomplished such an epic feat.

Good job commanding man!

Jomg.9061:

Ascii.9726:

Wipped this up for arguments sake. Any other keep/ stonemist safe offensive spots feel free to add.

U can treb ogre watch fromwithin SM too.

Those trebs are not safe though.

CreativeAnarchy.6324:

I don’t see the need for this.

Really, it isn’t going to fix anything and probably create more problems.

You are not factoring in population which, even if you don’t think it is a factor, it really is. No one in T3 will want to compete with JQ or BG and anyone placed in T1 without a population to compete will just get steam rolled.

Whoever is the steam roller won’t care where they get their bags and whoever is the pavement will probably not want to play unitl they get to a more population balanced match.

T1 for example. You would have Kenaing replace SoR. While BG and JQ won’t notice much difference in who they steam roll, Kenaing will.

Another thing to consider is that when a third server stacks for T1, you would have that server swap with another. When that happens, a balanced match would be lopsided and the server that replaces the one that gets bumped will get crushed and the server that got bumped would obliterate where it got placed.

Coverage is a factor.

Bad idea.

You are forgetting tiers which will never be balanced, such as T5.

Because we don’t want feelings to get hurt.

I don’t mind the differences, it’s a good thing that Red gets a little bit of an advantage. That being said, I really feel that Green and Blue should swap places.

Orion.3812:

Gab Superstar.4059:

Krash.9486:

I understand , it is the internet, and thinking you could have a mature intelligent and honest exchange about the state of the game and it’s current scoring flaws without some 12 year old troll showing up spouting nonsensical trash talk is just hoping for too much.

Why didn’t your 9 man super group just wipe that zerg like you had been doing all night then? 40+ LOL not even close.. XD

You should have seen yesterday at Bluebriar. 10 of us trapped inside the tower after SBI closed the gate behind us vs ~20 SBI.

We were badly outnumbered and forced to fight at the bottom of the tower while the SBI zerg sat near Lord’s room with 2-3 arrow carts, constantly AoEing the only way for us to get up there.

It only took us about 5min to wipe you guys and cap the tower. It was an insanely epic battle though and probably the most fun I have had in WvW for a looong time. I was about to make a post thanking whoever from SBI participated, but now that I saw your arrogant post I decided against it.

I’m not sure if this was the Bluebriar fight I was the SBI commander for or not, but in any case it sounds like a similar situation. I don’t think my group closed the door, but I could have missed it. My commander character is a female white tiger charr in banded mail.

It was a fight against BSty and I faced them and two other DR groups in SBI BL for most of the time I had my tag up that night, and they were consistently a thorn in our side while the other larger DR groups gave us trouble all over the map. The Bluebriar fight was BSty plus a handful of a second guild whose tag currently escapes me.

To BSty, congrats on the victories you had—while your estimates of our numbers are often grossly exaggerated, you are correct in that in many cases there was an imbalance in numbers and I have on multiple occasions found myself repeating in team chat not to charge into the BSty group recklessly. There were also many occasions when I would show up at a camp wondering where half of my zerg had gone only to find that you’d been picking off my completely silent followers that had lagged behind.

As it turns out, it is very difficult to coordinate a pug zerg in text chat to the same degree as an organized guild in voice chat. The fight I was in at Bluebriar was only a slight numbers advantage in our favor that dwindled quickly as SBI pugs continued to ignore directions to stay together—and alive. I can tell by BSty’s tactics that you understand the real key to the numbers game—it’s not how many people you have on a map but how many people you have in each fight. Drawing the pugs out to pick them off at the edges in small groups before you actually commit will hopefully teach them a lesson which I cannot.

So, props to you [BSty]. I hope to see you again, fighting you is a challenge and really keeps me on my toes when I tag up. I only hope that SBI’s pug WvWers continue to learn from your finishers so they’ll start following more closely. It will make all of the fights when it is we who are outnumbered (which happen frequently on my watch, including when your guild is active) much easier.

To SBI, but also to other groups: who’s under the tag you follow may matter some, but the much more important factor is how closely you follow. Stay together, stay alive, and see you on the field again tomorrow!

I’m not sure if it was the same fight. I know BSty rammed the gate down, but I do not recall seeing them inside the tower. I think the SBI group came in and wiped them from behind, moving up the tower. After that our group followed them into the tower, leading to that epic battle. The gate was closed but a DR player came in and used the ram to get it down again.

And yes, please do take my number estimations however you like them. I judge them by the amount of damage and red circles I see, lol. When there is a ton of red names bunched together ikitten×5 area like in that tower, it’s really impossible to tell with culling and what not.

Robin Hood.3850:

Most of you who post here should really read your posts before you submit them, maybe then you would see how actually pathetic you all sound. Its literally a kitten showing contest in this forum and it just makes me sad.

For those of you who actually post decent things, I salute you and tell you that your posts making reading through the rest of this crap even remotely bearable.

Seriously, enough with the “my party of 5 wiped a zerg of 20+” and the “We only had 3 defenders at X location and you couldn’t get in with 20+” It just makes you all sound like you have nothing better to do with your lives than brag about a video game. So please, enough with the kitten game, I for one am really sick of it and I’m sure many others are.

That being said, we had some really fun times today in WvW against DR and IOJ. More skirmishes than I have had in a while and some nice tactics by both sides.

Yeah, <> forbid someone actually talks about the match up or something that happened in WvW. I was giving my side of the story, you really don’t have to be so upset about it.

Amurond.4590:

Anyway although I’ve never been a part of a zerg that has done that, I’m willing to bet large amounts of $$$ the reason they did it to your group is because they read this forum.

In fact, I’m almost certain that’s why they did it

Honestly if some forum posts can make SBI leave their keeps for once to come fight I would just be happy.

Some fun fighting in EB today. It was kind of weird that you couldn’t take back Danelon from 10 people when you had at least twice that number. Especially that [SBI] guild seemed to not really know what they were doing. Flanking is good, but when you have twice our numbers a push from the front would have finished us off quickly. Instead your pushes came at different times from the entrances and we proceeded to wipe you too many times to count, eventually capturing the tower.

Nice job upgrading all of the maps for once by the way, and actually defending what you captured. Made for some fun WvW rather than the usual PvD we have to endure while you twiddle your thumbs in SM. The fact that we didn’t get wiped by the typical 40 man SBI zerg was the cherry on top.

I have a lot of friends on EB and I know they want to stay in their tier, because of how boring T5 is for whatever T4 guild drops down, but for my sake I won’t be missing this match up a bit.

Maladon.5760:

Gab Superstar.4059:

Yams.6082:

Gab Superstar.4059:

CD passed EB who are less than two rating points from moving down now.

Let’s hope our numbers stay at current levels, we’ll stand a fighting chance.

You are projected to go up a tier currently.

That might end up being a good fight. I don’t think we’ll win necessarily because CD has a very active off-peak presence but it’ll be interesting. I don’t know much about Maguuma so we’ll have to see how the numbers compare once things get going. At least it’s a new matchup.

Unless something major happened to the server, you will most likely be stomped by Maguuma. They have a very active roaming population accompanied by very coordinated pug zergs. I guarantee you they will hold on to your bay throughout the week and launch attacks from there whenever they have the population to do so. They are very good at defending that keep, so I don’t think your massive off-hour presence will be able to do anything against it either.

This is of course assuming SBI and Maguuma performs the way I saw them perform in T5.

Yams.6082:

Gab Superstar.4059:

CD passed EB who are less than two rating points from moving down now.

Let’s hope our numbers stay at current levels, we’ll stand a fighting chance.

You are projected to go up a tier currently.

CD passed EB who are less than two rating points from moving down now.

Zenyatoo.4059:

Gab Superstar.4059:

I agree, Ultimate Dominator is reasonable if not too easy. 500k kills would be more reasonable, and the other achievements should of course be brought in line with this.

When you think of it, 86 WvW kills per day is not hard at all for a dedicated player.

More like for a T1 player. In T1 fights you can rack up 30+ kills in a few minutes of zerg battles. Might be a little harder for a T8 player to get that many.

If these titles are going to be even remotely hard to attain it would have to take ~5-6 years of playing at least 5 hours a day to obtain them though.

Ascended gear and now this. I guess we are really being pigeonholed into playing one character.

Boring, Arena Net.