Guild Wars 2

Jski.6180:

Sorenstam Blackrose.8425:

Jski.6180:

Well this is more of a question of what the AC can and cant hit. If you have a cart behind a door you cant hit any thing but what is right on that door. You can hit the door with ram that are not right on the door. As for the other places to put carts you can hit things right out side of that door if they are on the walls but being on the walls make them hittable by any aoe (i guess gurdian aoe is a bit small to hit it but it should land from time to time).

Also there are more then just Ele’s DT whom can hit things that they cant see its just not well known info.

Why do you keep moving the goal posts?

Borlis has used specific positions of the back lip of the wall to place carts such that your “throw all the AOE on the wall” method fails. This is possible – we’ve even made their commanders rage over our use of DT to stop it. How many people out of that 50 are a. knowledgeable about stopping it, and b. have the means to stop it?

No i am saying the same thing over and over as for goal post moving i am not sure why you see that.
And where is this position? If you cant see it you cant make the arrow cart hit it. The weapon it self dose not need line of sight but the player DOSE need to be able to see it. Now if they are using a glitch or a program to let them zoom out more then they should they are exploiting the game and braking down the balance of the AC and truly of WvW over all.
If the commander or the leader of that group know what they are doing then the group will do well it dose not matter what the group over all knows. If the commander or leader dose not know what they are doing then the group will do bad. That how it should work number alone should not win you any thing.

There is quite a few of them where you can be safe from most things, though you have to angle your camera a bit funny and not assume that you can only hit the center of your screen and/or ahve to see the entire targeting area of your AC.

And I assure you this is without zoomhack

Plenty of people have posted suggestions to deal with the arrowcarts, last i checked (when the thread was on 17 pages), there is simply nothing viable.
The hatred for the arrowcarts isn’t a psychological reaction to change (…really, now?), it’s based on the simple fact that it kittens kitten up for quite a lot of people and play styles, and the only play style which benefits from it is the “I’ma go and sit in my tower and wait!” one.

I only play WvW, I have no other interest in Guild Wars, and even that is simply not interesting or fun at the moment. (and before you tell me to go play something else then – I am, playing Neverwinter Online, quite fun for now, still checking the forums though)

Oh, yeah, Golems, knew i forgot something…..
Still, both the keep thing and the golem thing are very specific situations, it’s not like “the olden days” where portalbombing was THE thing to do for attacking and Mesmers pretty much had to have portal equipped all the time.

Slayer Lord.5023:

IN NA, people leave the top three servers all the time. Why this never happens in the EU is a mystery. You would think it would spread out by now and yet it doesn’t seem to.

“People leaving all the time” isn’t exactly the same as almost every hardcore guild leaving all around the same time, without any new people coming in, on 2 out of 3 servers. One of which was built around guilds fighting, another which has had a lot of experience with ups and downs, but generally managed to get new people incoming before even at very high status…. But now it’s paid transfer, gem prices are skyrocketing and nobody really wants to fight any of the t1 servers for various reasons

Most of the organised guilds actually
It’s easier to count which guilds are still active than which guilds left.

gun control is compeltely irrelevant to this topic, if you 2 really want to duke it out over that, take it to pms, in the meantime, let’s talk about something else which is completely not relevant to the topic for example how nobody feels sorry for bandwagon servers and how Vizunah is (or is not) to be blamed for the current state of t1.

As far as I’m aware, this is about how kitten the matchup system, Glicko, is for this particular game, screwing up matchups.
(I’m sure it works just fine for other instances)

jdkL.4520:

A major part of your server mindlessly QQs instead of swallowing your pride and ask for guilds to gather and come back.

How did you manage to miss that the guilds didn’t leave because of internal drama, but because they aren’t having fun in t1?
The servers can swallow their pride and ask the guilds to come back however much they want, its not going to fix it because the guilds will say something along the lines of “Hahahaha no.” (But likely more polite and longer)

If you want it closed, report the original post of the thread and give a valid reason.
That’s how 2 out of 3 GH whine threads got closed.

I can assure you that to many, it doesn’t feel like a job at all

Do people actually still use portal except for when a mesmer has hidden inside a keep?

No, I’m done with subscription games, they’re not worth it.

Actually, there are 3 threads over it
First one dropped off the page though.

I had to correct tons of people on my friends list, who are hardcore wvwers, on when the reset time actually was, so yeah, a more public announcement would’ve been good

Jimmy JimBob.2801:

And saying that 10-15 can easily adapt, overcome and develop to beat 30-35 organised players is imo very naive at best and downright stupid at worst

Never said it was easy, I’m saying it’s possible though. A group of randoms wouldn’t be able to do it, but an organised guild which is used to working together and is on a voice com?
Yes, doable, with some effort and cooperation within the guild/group.

Jimmy JimBob.2801:

Likewise so is the idea that the big guilds will stick to themselves. This is an objective based game – are you saying that the 40 man guild will leave the 15 man group to take Garrison out of fairness to their desires? No chance.

And no, the 40man (or whatever size…. Seems it gets bigger every time a number is mentioned) wouldn’t leave the 15man group alone, and it shouldn’t do that, I’m saying that larger groups generally have different focus and playstyle than smaller groups, and smaller groups tend to be sneakier (due to their size) when capping things – even in the higher tiers, there’s ninja/stealth-capping, is it strange to imagine it happens here too?

Aneu.1748:

(It also showed us how terrible rangers are since Genev died so much!)

You decided to jump up a roof while I was drunk! Yeah, that wasn’t going to work :p

No, what would happen is the big guilds would fight each other, the small guilds would fight each other, and the smallguilds would likely also develop more tactics for when they face the big ones, which might even cause them to kill a large group.

I was running with some guys from GH (Golden Horde) one night in t1, was about 5 of us, and we bumped into a zerg. Not the same as an organised guild group, and it wasn’t a blob, jsut a zerg, but we managed to kill quite a few of them before we decided to run off simply because we were playing smart.

We were 5 and killed a large amount, of course it would be harder against an organised guild, but you would also be more (since you say the average size is 10-15, or somebody did at least), and likely these large guild groups would only be as big as a group as we fought then, on reset.

I’m wasted, and can’t think of anything else than posting a massive ragepost of how kittened up the wvw system is and how the EU system is.
So I think I’ll just stay semi quiet.

Didnt we already discuss this, as made even more obvious by the name of this thread (“take 2”)?

Also, one transfer every 6 months…. Do you want people to quit the game?

Luffy.9365:

Genev.2450:

Luffy.9365:

Vodka is godly……try caipiroska (with strawberry-female population)

Oh god, strawberries with any type of alcohol is the single best invention of mankind…..
I usually drink my vodka as a classic screwdriver, with orange juice (though mixed strong, need to be able to taste there’s alcohol in there imo)

Caipiroska is a very strong cocteil because it is highly based on Vodka. You hit the lime with the black sugar(and strawberry if you like), then you fill the glass with crushed ice and you fill it up with vodka(preferably 50% – like smirnoff dark blue). You need to mix it a few times with a straw and its ready

My usual Vodka is either Stolichnaya or Russian Standard <3
And yeah, looked up what it was after you put it there, I’ve never had it but maybe I should give it a try some time!

Actually, the Piken guilds are actively working to keep Piken in t3, so they’re not as good an example as you might think

Source: A Piken guild

Luffy.9365:

Vodka is godly……try caipiroska (with strawberry-female population)

Oh god, strawberries with any type of alcohol is the single best invention of mankind…..
I usually drink my vodka as a classic screwdriver, with orange juice (though mixed strong, need to be able to taste there’s alcohol in there imo)

Caliban.3176:

Genev.2450:

Personally I’m more fond of vodka.

Blashpemer. King Albert II does not approve of this statement.

Beer tastes bad, and im not going to be all like “Yeah! I’m going to drink this vile tasting stuff because people told me i’ll get used to it and learn to like it! Also, because I’m supposed to because of my nationality!”

King Albert II can think what he wants about it :p

Personally I’m more fond of vodka.

ThomasKreshant.6572:

Genev.2450:

It doesn’t invalidate what people are saying, I was simply curious where that came from and figured you guys would know, since obviously, you’re from the same server and would know better than me why he seemed so unhappy.
I haven’t followed what happened to GH after I left last time, so the reaction seemed a bit weird to me.

Yes I know every single person on our server and all the whispered conversations that they have……………

People who whisper people on other servers to complain when they don’t know them tend to be quite vocal in their own community, whether anyone listens to them or not.
I was also more curious about what was behind it than the actual person, for example some history of GH which might have triggered that, which Neandramathal. was kind enough to give me.

It doesn’t invalidate what people are saying, I was simply curious where that came from and figured you guys would know, since obviously, you’re from the same server and would know better than me why he seemed so unhappy.
I haven’t followed what happened to GH after I left last time, so the reaction seemed a bit weird to me.

So, why did i get angry whispers from a GH guy saying that nobody ever comes to GH to “help” and only the servers who don’t deserve it get “help”?
(quotes added by me)

Edit: The white/black Charr thief from TaG who we saw a few times in RoF border last night – You’re funny, and, I don’t know much about thieves, but you also looked good :o

Darkman.1257:

We, the SFR WvW guilds, will not be making any official statements on public forums. Anyone claiming to speak for the whole server or on behalf of us is either kittening or expressing his personal opinion, which does not in any way, shape or form represent our official opinion nor does it reflect our current mood and server situation.

I see what you did there :p

I haven’t seen blobs yet personally, I’ve seen some zergs, and a pretty big turtle, but nothing what i could call a blob after having played in T1.
I’ve also had no skill lag so far, no fps lag (thinking of upping my gfx settings a bit and see what happens – i prefer playing pretty games), and people will actually fight us instead of running away/into the nearest tower or keep without it being under attack or on our path, etc.

While I have no doubt T5 has bigger numbers, I doubt they will be of the sort that Vizu fielded, and like Vizu plays.

Had tons of fun on RoF borders tonight, somehow somebody (/glare) decided to put me in charge of a bunch of people and when RoF decided to attack Garrison from 2 sides i actually ran in circles on the spot for a while until i whimpered on TS “Where do i go first?!”

Also, grats to the guy from EPIC who finally got his world completion! Enjoy those Gifts of Exploration, and hope to see you with a legendary soon

Caliban.3176:

Aneu.1748:

Genev.2450:

Everybody should seriously look at this Ranger hate they seem to be having trouble with, it’s not healthy

Not only are you a ranger, you’re also female!! FOR SHAME!

At least her nationality is extremely redeeming.

Even though i moved away from my home country and wouldn’t go back if I didn’t have to visit family once in a while? :p

Everybody should seriously look at this Ranger hate they seem to be having trouble with, it’s not healthy

Genotix.6804:

Genev.2450:

Heh. My character name is…. /drumroll…. Genev.
:p

As i said before i was wondering who was missing from the gathering.
Is snort still playing genev?

I don’t think so, not sure though, haven’t seen many ThUn for a while.
Saw a bunch of them reappear for the culling fix, but as far as I know they didn’t stay, like many guilds and people

Heh. My character name is…. /drumroll…. Genev.
:p

Most of them stopped playing, a few went to different guilds, a few are still playing casually under the tag.

And sorry, Grok, I hope you will remember me with fond thoughts. Our time was cut short by vile vile boredom

Rangers are cool, k?

Nah, same would’ve happened as happened to Blacktide – some of the hardcore guilds would’ve gotten bored (absolute domination is no fun) and moved away. Though the freefall which happened to BT wouldn’t have happened since it wouldn’t be as many and not all at the same time, but it still wouldn’t have stayed long enough to push Vizu (SFR vs VS vs Desolation…. that’s probably why people say Vizu or VZ instead) down to T2.

Except you. I recognise you. :p
Yep, used to be, but now i’m wandering with VoTF and taking their Ranger hate with a suffering sigh.

We transfered last night – and promptly had people die (including me, don’t tell Jackie) in our first fight!
Some of us took it a bit too relaxed in the beginning I think

I’m happy to be fighting my former servermates (as I’m originally from GH), though I’m not sure how many people are left who would recognise me, and I don’t really recognise anyone

Hi!
So far, this is Fun!
(capital F and everything :o)

People told him to put it somewhere else, I’m sure that if he did, he would get the feedback he asked for

Regardless of the point (which I understood jsut fine since Vizus kept repeating it over and over), the source of the project is still “slightly” ridiculous for anyone who is actually familiar with the server and the matchup.

Or you guild could understands it’s 4 am for you and that you’ll be around for playing at other times? Sure, it sucks missing reset, but it is the best solution for the majority of players on that continent… The continent the server group is based on.

As a EU playing NA, you should always have expected stuff like that could happen, and decided you were fine (or not fine) with it before you got settled.

Troma.3250:

Mothan, i already answered to this before ! =) i think you should try to read all the discuss with Empyre and other, you have key elements on it.We couldnt do it before because all 3 servers were totally focused on WvW, and all energy was focused on it.

Yes, the tool would be for all servers of course ! and i wanted to talk about it here before making a new post. Anyway we should close the discuss for the moment yes. Let SFR rebuild in calm, and i’m sure it will come back even stronger soon. And we need it too : it’s Yin/Yang. Without enemy, there is no need to play. People like Drq, Wemil and many others are the future core of the SFR community. A true community.

I like you Troma, I do, but you kittened up with this one.
As people have already said, there were many guilds looking for GvG before, and T1 had this insane concentration of amazing guilds wanting to do that (Well, Vizu just had WL afaik…). The average person, and some guilds, sure, they were “focused” on WvW, but many of the guilds would’ve killed for some GvG.

This tool happily being announced by Vizunah in this matchup thread after these weeks… I find it quite funny, but I see how others find it insulting.

Changed it to reflect I’m talking about WvW presence, happy?
I thought it was pretty obvious, and I thought people pointed out that SF is not a good representation of the lower tiers, regardless of its actual placement.
But maybe that’s just me.

Aveneo.2068:

How can you expect to get 30v30 GvG working when your players are afraid to even go 1v1 and need to outnumber you at least 3-to-1 before they actually do something? Just yesterday I had a Guardian (and later an Engineer) running away from my LB/SB Ranger (Le Gasp!) to hide behind guards.

I just wanted to test their skills as individuals because there was a lot of talk about Vizunah players having skill, but to me it seems a lot of them have to work on their individual combat skills and stop running away from evenly matched fights.

I dunno, they attack you if you show no interest in the 1v1 thing, maybe that was your mistake.
I got killed in EB recently when me and an enemy Ele passed each other np, i ran a bit further and suddenly i get bowled over by him.
Didn’t stand a chance with my build tbh, was a bit annoying, stupid guild was at the other side of the map. :p

Didn’t everybody and their dog already say that SF doesn’t have lower tier WvW population/presence?

Personally, this is the first reset i’ve been to for a while. Granted, it was partly because I was sober on reset night, and partly because I joined a new guild, but before there was simply no incentive to stay up.
Midnight from 2 am Does make a difference. At midnight, you’re still pretty awake (at least I am), you start playing, you have fun, you get carried away and before you know it, it’s 5-6 am and you’re trying to remember if you have something to do on saturday.
2 am on the other hand, that’s a bit late, I know i’ll be getting tired, dunno if there’s really that much fun to start playing while getting tired already, etc etc….

Sure, I would’ve done 2am if i was in my new guild before this reset, but i’m pretty sure i wouldn’t have stayed as late and wouldn’t have had as much fun.

And yes, I know NA gets shafted, I actually mention it earlier in this thread as well in answer to somebody suggesting the 2h change, but it is an actual improvement for EU, and bigger than some people claim.

To the person saying “why do this stop-gap thing if they’re going to change anyways?” (was somewhere earlier, dont remember whcih post exactly) – isn’t that what they did with culling too? They re-introduced the culling system everybody hated, said they got positive feedback, it was horrifyingly bad for the first week and then it was a bit better, and once people were used to it “Here, it’s gone” :p

Yaro.3251:

This is to inform you that as of yesterday, Golden Horde began the process of transferring to Piken Square.

I just want to say a couple of things to avoid any rumors and misunderstanding.

This transfer doesn’t have anything to do with the state of Deso’s WvW community (which is great) and is not a result of any internal drama. You may have noticed that GH almost disappeared from WvW scene not so long ago. It was a result of frustration/loss of interest in WvW as it is now mainly because of skill delay which for us became constant reality due to the fact that blobbing is the thing of the day. But blobbing itself doesn’t bother most of us. Constant skill delay however just kills this game for us.

After several weeks of WvW anabiosis, “waiting for better” and research regarding the state of WvW on other servers in lower tiers, we finally made this hard decision to leave Deso for as long as it would take Anet to find a fix to skill delays.

Deso, we love you. But we cannot stay together atm. Because if we did, there would be no GH as we know it pretty soon. (sad smile).

P.S. I know I was posting earlier that skill delay doesn’t bother me personally that much. But that’s me and then there’s a limit. If it constant, it becomes just ridiculous.

I will miss you guys, good luck in your new home and hope we meet again!

/cough

You can’t go into WvW when guesting btw.

There’s a 30point trait increasing range

Can we get past the whole “care/not care/nobody forces you/nobody forces you either” thing?

Hate to jump on the bandwagon, but that does look like normal WvW to me….