Guild Wars 2

Honestly, the only way I can read this is like “Awww, they’re so cute, they think they can do anything against us”

Nice to see Baruch again, let’s kill each other mercilessly
Welcome to the infamous Abaddon’s zergs

Considering there were 3 resets (Augury Rock vs Piken Square vs Baruch Bay, Augury vs Baruch vs Fort Ranik, and Augury vs Baruch vs Abbaddon’s Mouth), and in the end result one server is getting horribly stomped by 2 servers… I don’t think I’m impressed :p

The infamous Abbadon’s Mouth (don’t even remember tier, soz) zergs are getting crushed by the organised groups of Augury and Baruch (both t3)

Edit: Though, right after i wrote this, our overconfidence got us killed. My point still stands though

lollasaurus.1457:

Apparently a retaliation bug that most people didn’t even notice is more deserving of developer attention than siege exploits and broken arrow cart mechanics.

Oh trust me, people noticed.
Or is all the retal stacking I’m seeing lately just a trick on my eyes?

Pryda.8257:

DevonCarver.5370:

Just wanted to drop by to say we had fun running around with you guys yesterday, even when we stumbled into a GvG match and started fighting. It was good fun!

We’re still waiting for you to run with us sometimes!

VoTF also still has an open offer too if I remember correctly

Also: You know you wouldn’t have stumbled into the GvG if tehre was a private arena for it… /cough

You mean like last time they did that and screwed up the T1 EU matchup?

Devitz.2136:

votf you have some kind of speed boosts, I’ve never seen somebody running that fast and that many times(but when there is opportunity to jump as 3rd – USE IT!)

Thank you! I take great pride in my running skills

dZeiP.5932:

Lessons to learn:

1. Scout for mesmers
2. Dont sleep on a guard duty

Epic times!

Oh yeah, that guy!
Looks like the same guy who was akitten bay a while ago, we kept killing him because his friends kept ressing him

I’m guessing his scouting is of the sort of “If his health drops, there are enemies inside”

My point is that it’s quite normal in EU at least to have little to no players in WvW in early mornings, except for some servers, and in cases like that those morning cappers are generally very prepared to take T3 keeps incredibly fast.

I also agree with the notion “If you’re not on the map, you’re not defending”. There should be enough time from start to cap for the defenders to get there, from anywehre on that map , but that is from start, and means scoutin and reporting should be properly organised. On top of that, remember that swords now take 30 seconds to show up, so you should take that in account when saying that you know the time because of the timer – add 30 seconds.

Engels.8537:

Genev.2450:

Exosferatu.2961:

By the way, how do people message people from enemy server? And how do they invite you into their group? o.O

If they have you targeted and open the party window thingy at the top, they can just press invite, they can also see your name that way, and of course your name is visible while they wait for you to accept or decline

They can’t see your name when they invite you, all they see is “Invader/Defender” and your server. But it becomes visible after a few minutes of having that pending invite. So the advice is, if you don’t wanna talk to them, decline the invitation and move on.

Depends on whether you use simplified or normal UI, with normal you can hover over the portrait and see the name – I don’t use simplified, but I know there you only see the invader/defender, though I do wonder if you can’t see the acct name by hovering too.

Reborn.2934:

yesterday morning riverside zerg won Guinness World Record capturing a keep with 3 golems.

At early morning and in only 50 seconds they captured the T3 eternal keep with 3 golems and a zerg of 50 people against 5 defenders ….

Reborn.2934:

At early morning and in only 50 seconds they captured the T3 eternal keep with 3 golems and a zerg of 50 people against 5 defenders ….

Reborn.2934:

At early morning

Nuff said?

Exosferatu.2961:

By the way, how do people message people from enemy server? And how do they invite you into their group? o.O

If they have you targeted and open the party window thingy at the top, they can just press invite, they can also see your name that way, and of course your name is visible while they wait for you to accept or decline

Npnp, play more and you’ll get to be a Footman eventually! Don’t you want to be a footman?!

“Because I say so, isn’t it obvious it’s not?”
That’s basically what you said.

There would be a severe number imbalance during every timezone’s primetime – no NA EU primetime coverage could beat the combined forces of the EU servers, no EU nighttime team could do anything against the wave of NA.

The servers should’ve been international from start

Yorric Hunt.8214:

Are you serious? T3 and up EU have very good coverage. But you are right about if the lower tiers met.

“Very good coverage” for European standards, in comparison to the American high tier though there is nothing.
All the EU higher tiers have are Russians, Vizunah has a consistent 30man nightteam which hops maps, and that’s the coverage of the nr 1 EU server.
I’m pretty sure a 30man night team would not hold up against full borders.

NA vs EU wouldn’t work out well, higher tier NA mostly has round the clock coverage, which the EU servers dont have (not even the top tiers), and the lower tiers would jsut kinda zoom past each other in pvd’ing during their respective primetimes

Haltair.3062:

Thieve´s bread and butter is stealth, you can not break the basic role of a whole class.

As a Ranger, this makes me lol hard.

Note to self – Get thief higher than lvl 6

Sacrx.6721:

Genev.2450:

Was fun tonight, though the size of the battles sometimes made me go down to 3 fps
Upgrading pc in august ftw

Why even bother the game will be over by then.

Never bad to upgrade!

Was fun tonight, though the size of the battles sometimes made me go down to 3 fps
Upgrading pc in august ftw

Noerknhar.3826:

@Thedenofsin:
Did you actually read the first post in this thread? It says: “One change that is happening in today’s build will be a reduction in the amount of damage arrow carts do to siege weapons.”.

People still can’t stand in there to actually operate the rams

Strafing won’t work against rapid fire, dodgeroll will as it does with everything (though the rapid fire will ofc stay locked on you and as soon as you stop rolling you’ll get the dmg again)

Rapid Fire follows stealthed thieves if you start it before they stealth, might’ve been that.

Malediktus.9250:

Kron.6938:

Two lvl 2 mesmers without all their weapon skills unlocked takes down a lvl 80 Warrior with all his/her traits. True story about a friend and I leveling our newbie mesmers, it is about the skill that is used by the player and not by the level.

First 2 vs 1 and 2nd the warrior must have been horrible.

Maybe the warrior was horrible, but it does show that being lvl 80 doesn’t necessarily mean you won’t be a free rally for enemy groups.

CHIPS.6018:

Elitejelly.7462:

you could do a zerg stream teach commanders what to do and some big group tactics.

I am sure any guild from tier 1 to 3 would gladly volunteer their members for that zerg live steam. Top candidates for me would be SF from JQ and WM from BG. They really know what they are doing and I am sure they would greatly entertain the viewers.

You guys can also consider FOO from JQ, Rise from BG, PINK from TC, RAM from Yak’s, CO from DB and RE from Kaineng. All these guilds are pretty good too. I am sure there are other great guilds out there but I am just not familiar with them.

Thanks for that havoc team live steam btw.

VoTF (EU T3 atm) has offered in another thread to take an ANet Dev with us on a CTA.
Considering their daytime is primetime for us (I wasn’t around at the time the stream was being done but apparently it was around reset time EU?), EU guilds are probably a better choice than a US guild if they play from their workplace for it

Malediktus.9250:

katz.8376:

well, Malediktus… thanks for my morning LOL. if that’s the way “your server” is… i’m glad i’m not on it. and i pity those who are.

play for fun, dude… fun.

on a related note. any and all on ET (trolls excluded) are welcome to run under my tag. i made half my levels on my guard in WvW, i’ll be DARNED if i’ll deny that fun to someone else

big difference, your server is ranked last, ours is tier 1 in europe. If people are like that on your server its no wonder it is where it is.

It’s t1 EU because of numbers and coverage, and unless you’re french or german, you’re going to drop due to the exodus a while ago

Dat skill lag….

/blink
We quit GW2? Somebody should tell me these things…

Reborn.2934:

Caliban.3176:

Reborn.2934:

Aneu.1748:

Level 1 siege bunker removes 1% of the damage.

and level 5 reduces 5% . so ?

until now i and my mates near me never die from ac’s whatever ac force we faced . downed some , but rezzed inside combat .

He’s telling you how useless siege bunker is. 5% is nothing, it is not worth anything.

the wxp ranks give to the players that spend time in www the ability to be better than the other that just start playing and this is good. besides all , gw2 is a mmo and not bf3 or cod fps pvp game and character progression must matters..

before patch i could dominate a camp alone .now i can’t because i have not spend any wxp to the proper level of wxp rank. when i will spend and i still cant dominate them i will try to find a way to do it , not to blame because they did guards more powerfull….

this is how it goes in every mmo out there.

And this is how ANet said repeatedly their game wasn’t going to be.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Traps-Get-More-Out-of-WvW/
You already missed 3 pages of that, WITH a comment from ANet :p

ShiningSquirrel.3751:

Genev.2450:

ShiningSquirrel.3751:

No where did the op say anything about wanting to get a legendary. The people complaining “why should you get a legendary if you don’t WvW?” need to get a clue. Even if world completion where instantly given to every player in the game, they would not be able to get a legendary without also getting the badges of honor. How do you get those, by playing WvW. The attitude in this thread is exactly why I will not play any PvP content unless absolutely necessary. PvP brings out the worst in online gamers.

/cough Jumping Puzzle /cough

I’m a hardcore WvWer with a legendary and 2 sets (and contemplating working on a 3rd) which i transmuted into dungeon looks, because there’s no way in hell I’m running around in that fugly WvW gear.
I seriously dislike doing the PvE in this game at this point, but I sucked it up because I wanted a certain thing, and even if that meant I had to run TA or Arah 20 more times with some random people….. I wanted it, so I was going to get it. Simple as that.

Have your friends tried applying that to WvW?

You mean the jp located in WvW? Last time I looked, that was in WvW and still a PvP zone so I am not sure what you are trying to say.
Not sure who you are replying to, but none of my friends are having any problems with it. Most of us got our titles long ago. I did WvW long enough to get completion, now I only bother with it if some guildies want to hop in to waste some time. This does not effect me at all. I already have the title, have no interest in a legendary and have no use for medals of honor so I really have no reason to do WvW but I can still see the ops point of view and from the Devs response, it appears anet can as well.

The only thing in that which was relevant to you was the jumping puzzle comment, the rest was to OP saying “omg it’s not me it’s my friends”
Most people don’t consider the jumping puzzle wvw, especially since most of the time there will be mesmer taxis, and when there isn’t, people often refuse to move until there is a mesmer taxi instead of doing the puzzle and, god forbid, actually meeting somebody. Who might or might not feel violent.

I dunno, I think carebears are awesome, and it’s more flattering than what I’ve seen Russians call PvE’ers or people who mess up in WvW.

ShiningSquirrel.3751:

No where did the op say anything about wanting to get a legendary. The people complaining “why should you get a legendary if you don’t WvW?” need to get a clue. Even if world completion where instantly given to every player in the game, they would not be able to get a legendary without also getting the badges of honor. How do you get those, by playing WvW. The attitude in this thread is exactly why I will not play any PvP content unless absolutely necessary. PvP brings out the worst in online gamers.

/cough Jumping Puzzle /cough

I’m a hardcore WvWer with a legendary and 2 sets (and contemplating working on a 3rd) which i transmuted into dungeon looks, because there’s no way in hell I’m running around in that fugly WvW gear.
I seriously dislike doing the PvE in this game at this point, but I sucked it up because I wanted a certain thing, and even if that meant I had to run TA or Arah 20 more times with some random people….. I wanted it, so I was going to get it. Simple as that.

Have your friends tried applying that to WvW?

Don’t think you’ll get attacked much, many people have suggested this, and versions of this, before and support the idea, but ANet has said it’s not going to happen if I remember right.

If you really want to be attacked I guess I can for not searching the forums omg? ;p

Public forums though, so you have to understand how people could take what you said

Lara Croft.5807:

Repuran.1859:

Lara Croft.5807:

Repuran.1859:

Viz going to take the blame for the death of EU T1 yet?

…or are the opponents to take the blame of not being strong enough, maybe?

God knows…. best would be to find a solution, not to blame, no?

Not at all, in peak times weekends/6-9pm Vizu are usually behind Deso or SFR but then you come back in the morning and Vizu have almost every tower/keep it’s a EU server so why do you have nightcappers which outnumber SFR and Deso night time players combined…

Vizu also create lag in almost every battle they enter these days its just pathetic.

Well let me be more precise then… why do opponents not have recruited enough nightshifts to defend/attack Vizunah better?

You’re a very funny person, you know that?

At the moment, it’s simple as that – they have done so, and people don’t want to fight Vizunah anymore because the majority of the server does not offer a fun opponent to fight against, and there’s no reason to be nr 1.

I was on Blacktide before, we dominated, we got bored, we quit the game (I was on a break for 2 months), there was nobody who could compete with us and apart from going “Well, we’re the best, nobody can beat us” there was no reason for people to continue working towards that.
It simply wasn’t interesting or fun after a while.
The way up was awesome fun, staying there after people realised the domination… zzzzzzzz.

Shhhh, I’m playing Neverwinter

The duelling spot is quite far away from the map and even if you take the “back door” into the camp, it’s perfectly possible to go nowhere near it.
While the first time might’ve been accidental, I’m going to go ahead and assume that the other times you were going to check out if it was happening again, and if so that you were there to disrupt it.

It’s not an official thing, but it’s not against the TOS either, and the fact that you even suggest that it could be… lol. Just lol.

Only 7? So slack!

Then move down?

timidobserver.7925:

Aaron.4807:

DevonCarver.5370:

I’d like to shed some light on our thinking with this AC change as well as tell you all what we are doing right now to balance it.

Firstly, when siege weapons were originally created, they had the intent of being really good at some things and not so good at others. The arrow cart is intended to be the anti-personal siege weapon. It is intended that arrow carts are all about controlling an area through damage. If you remain in the area that is being hit by the arrow cart, you will die. You can however, move out of the space and/or find a new way to attack the intended target. That being said, they are not intended to be so good against other siege weapons and we are in the process of addressing that right now. We are also addressing their range when upgraded to be more in line with the range of ballistas.

Secondly, this change is going to require new tactics and those tactics include things like using ballista and catapults to destroy arrow carts. With that in mind, we’ve been looking more closely at the numbers of all the siege weapons and there are definitely some changes that need to be made to bring them in line with their intent. We are going to take a holistic pass at siege weapons in the coming months and drop a rebalance of all of them to get them to more closely align with what they should be doing.

Finally, the feedback you all provide is a very useful part of this whole process. WvW is a living, breathing game type and any changes we make have numerous consequences that don’t become fully visible until everyone starts interacting with them and devising new strategies. Our goal is to provide a complex combat space that rewards skill, tactics, and ingenuity and while we haven’t fully achieved that goal yet, I like to think we are getting there.

In the coming months, meanwhile you most of your most noteworthy wvw guilds will be looking for a new game to play.

Anet has kittening lost their mind.

There aren’t a lot of games that came bring what WvW brings to the table for pvp oriented guilds. Even if they continue to break it by doing other stupid stuff like turning arrowcarts into godcarts.

People quit if they’re not having fun.

While I’ve had several disagreements with IRON, it’s a pretty telling sign on the state of the game if one of its largest (in EU top tiers), most dedicated and stubborn WvW guilds gives up on its main goal.

/salute, hope you manage to find some fun either in this game or another

Due to Orangu posting the topic first, we should probably let the poor guy the honor of being OP of this matchup’s thread.

Ahhh, you created a topic at the same time as me.
Deleted mine now np

Aeolus.3615:

i cant wait for tonight reset, lets see what kind of new moviments will be there

here are some examples:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6EknwERf3o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeTBqolcrO8

Amazing movie… Here, have my +1 <3

Heijincks.9267:

Teel.9036:

Vena.8436:

Lance.5892:

take a look at eu scores in T1
http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#EU
Tier 1 Desolation

with T2 servers purposely avoiding T1, how much of that + the arrowcart patch could you take? Especially when an entire server (Vizuna) was already known for sitting in towers/keeps and manning 50 million arrow carts

Note that it’s been happening for quite a long while.

Given the absolutely juvenille nature that your members are going on about, at this very moment, spamming the forum…

…Its as if you wanted your opinion to look childish/worse off or something with these antics.

You have three idiots spamming the forum as if we cared about them in some great way. No, we don’t, and it paints your guild poorly.

We are some of the fiercest debaters in this thread that is true, and we all stand on the same side of the argument, but we do reply with arguments and we don’t use rude remarks or similar to try make a point.

But nice of you to try undermine us anti-AC-buff by calling us juvenile.

I don’t think the juvenile part refers to VoTF as a whole. Just the few members who have demonstrated being so in this thread so far.

One of them is currently spamming the forums like a kid throwing a tantrum. You tell me that’s not juvenile.

Spamming forums is a tradition as old as the internet! We simply respect our environment.

I couldn’t care less about ANet deleting the post, but it’s an issue if one of the largest, most consistent and stubborn WvW guilds in EU finally has enough of the attitude towards WvW.

While I’ve never been particularly friendly with them, I recognise their achievements and losing IRON will be a noticable blow to high tier EU.
/salute

Dodge when running past an aggressive mob and you won’t get in combat (being in combat is what slows you down)