Guild Wars 2

I’m willing to see how the idea works out, and most people in this thread are over-reacting.

Ah, but this is the GW2 community, so perhaps it is a pretty good reaction.

I imagine that it’ll be a direct counter build to boon heavy builds. As a Guard, I can already rip my way through most players rather effortlessly. First to run into the enemy zerg, downing players left and right. Once I’ve gathered enough attention, I get out, wait for a CD or two, and dive back in tearing a path through the enemy zerg again.

I think having anti-tank builds will make things interesting. Perhaps something threatening to my Guard other than the combined focus of 10 players.

Though my only concern is that that speccing Anti-tank should have a decent sized opportunity cost.

No. To get the full 25 for the week, you have to complete Tier 3. If you have done Tier 1, you get 15 merits. If you then go complete Tier 2, you will get 5 merits, totaling 20. If you then finish Tier 3, you’ll get another 5.

If you do Tier 1 then Tier 3, you will get 15, then 10. If you do Tier 2 then Tier 3, you will get 20, then 5.

Just tested with my guild less than an hour ago.

Cymatoperior.5942:

I am an avid penitent shelter farmer too. I get between 2 to 4 rares per hour farming there. With the patch that introduces tough mobs much less people are farming there. I think the actual supply of ectos are about the same as it balances out the chest drop increase.

And I farm grenth too. Not the chest but the ice elementals. Post grenth buff patch. Lots of people farm grenth and deliberately fail the event to farm the mobs. I think the chest drop balances that too.

I can get 6-8 rares from Champ chests an hour. I also severely doubt there were enough players, pre-patch, farming Orr to cause 10+ sec skill delay and overflow servers.

Even if the rares per hours are the same between Orr farming and Champ chests, Champ Chests are far more accessible, less grindy, and doesn’t require constant activity throughout the hour. Because of this, the amount of participation in Champ Chests now FAR exceeds the amount of participation pre-patch in Orr, thus the rares generated far exceed the number pre-patch.

Ahh, Launch time. When I had 5g and thought I was rich. I remember looking at Dusk then, 10g, and wondered why anyone would spend such an absurd amount of money on a single weapon. 2 weeks passed and it was over 100g, and I my mind was blown. I still only had like 5g =P

Because we still hold a massive point lead =P

Stupid Wolrd Chest Loot, I see so many prominent WvW names at those(Including me), even when SM is contested.

WvW – PvP takes a long time to get boring. I’m always looking for that next player to really challenge me. Between meeting those gems, I"m busy throwing myself at impossible odds for fun.

Legendary – I’m working toward a Twilight casually. Started on November 23rd. All I need is Dusk.

Friends – I could run the same path of a dungeon a 100 times, and as long as my guild is on and along with me, I won’t be bored. They are fun just to talk to, and I enjoy watching them make progress towards their in game goals. Guild of about 10 actives. We’ll be trying Giuld Bounties as soon as the upgrade finishes(started yesterday), hopefully that will be fun.

If they weren’t buffed on the 26th, then I’m confused as to what the problem is. I haven’t had any trouble with them.

Anet said they have certain lines they will not cross in terms of performance and bandwidth usage. Culling helps the game maintain acceptable performance and bandwidth usage. Removing Culling without crossing those lines is a tough challenge.

Culling’s implementation was not unintentional, but it’s effects on WvW were not foreseen. Fixing it requires changes very deep into the code. Fixing it correctly without causing other major problems or crossing the performance and bandwidth lines takes time. A lot of time.

Saying culling will never be fixed is ridiculous. The problems that it cause are too big to be ignored.

I target rangers first and foremost. They are easily downed, and cause unnecessary damage and control. After rangers, I target Thieves, followed by Warriors. Those are normally downed easily enough, and can be a real threat if left unattended.

As for Race, I prioritize Norn>Charr>Sylvari>Human>Asura, if proximity allows that is. If the Norn is necessarily large, or the Charr unnecessarily ugly, I will go out of my way to kill them.

I also prioritize any players who look or play similar to any of my characters.

That’s disappointing. I always get a good laugh when John veers a bit to the trollish side.

My Guardian is more DPS oriented now, and that pie helped a lot. With it, I could easily solo fully upgraded supply camps with mobs defending it. Low success rate without it.

Glad it’s gone.

Guest to a lower pop server is really your only option.

Eles are now “slightly” less mobile. -Shrugs-

On the bright side, we now have 5 more secs to try to kill them before they can flee.

EnRohbi.2187:

I didn’t take the patch notes to read “Retaliation used to be able to affect 25 players in an area and now only 5” so much as “For every individual player, Retaliation can only stack duration 5 times now instead of 25”.?

Both are incorrect.

Let’s say there are 25 players with retaliation attacking a mob. The mob casts an AoE that hits all 25 players once. Because of the retaliation on each player, the mob would take damage 25 times. Now, post patch, if the mob hits the 25 players, only 5 of the retaliations will hit him back. The other 20 buffs will not tick.

I loled at “not that overpowered”

As someone who used them quite often, I can say with complete certainty that they were indeed overpowered. Nothing like a Symbol of Wrath + Whirling Wrath healing for a good 10k health. Good thing I gave them up a week ago since I figured this was coming on the 26th. I’ve already altered my builds to compensate for the loss of Pie.

Let people have their fun, and you go have yours.

It is somewhat annoying when things need to be done, but everyone is either standing on top of the wall giving off an occasional pot shot, or hitting the door.

To the [MAV] Mesmer from FC who has been glitching into our keep all day and porting his guildies in….

You be so bad ;D

But good try, and thanks for the free lewtz.

Nicolatte.5360:

Gisei.5749:

Nicolatte.5360:

So Sorrow’s Furnace wants HoD to basically take a couple weeks off so they can climb up to our tier more easily? That makes zero sense. If a server feels they belong in a higher tier they should fight to get there. Or else it’ll be your people who make posts like this when DH, or it’s equivalent, leaves you at +0 because of Omegas.

Umm, we’re in T8 because of the Glicko System, not because we aren’t strong enough. At the moment, just before reset, we are winning by a 250k point lead. How will our Rating change based on this? A very meager amount I can assure you.

If you consider that the case then no one from your server should have suggested HoD take a vacation so they can join tier 7. Because it wouldn’t do a thing would it? I never said you guys weren’t strong—you put that out there.

It would quicken the swap. Selfishly, that would be fine with me. The new T8 doesn’t concern me. The outcomes of T7 doesn’t concern me.

It’s not even big events, just two condition players gimp each other severely. My thief has no problem maintaining a 25 stack of bleed for 15secs, and can maintain 17 after the spike until the next one. Having one other player who stacks bleed above 8 starts cutting into my damage. What about 20 players each stacking nearly 15 bleeds?

Perhaps they should just cap all damage in a target to 3k/sec. Let’s the vast majority of the player base experience the woes of a condition build. Perhaps the QQ that would erupt will make change.

And yeah. I read about the Bandwidth response. If that is indeed the case, then it is sad. Very sad.

Nicolatte.5360:

So Sorrow’s Furnace wants HoD to basically take a couple weeks off so they can climb up to our tier more easily? That makes zero sense. If a server feels they belong in a higher tier they should fight to get there. Or else it’ll be your people who make posts like this when DH, or it’s equivalent, leaves you at +0 because of Omegas.

Umm, we’re in T8 because of the Glicko System, not because we aren’t strong enough. At the moment, just before reset, we are winning by a 250k point lead. How will our Rating change based on this? A very meager amount I can assure you.

I think Arena-Net’s statistics are far more complete than most of us realize. They are tracking how frequents certain skills are used and weapon sets, so I imagine average level of each class and number of 80s are well within their knowledge.

I personally like the fact thieves can finish off while cloaked. It makes killing them so much easier. Often times, I even let one of my allies go down, instead of blowing a CD to save them, because now I know exactly where the thief will be, or will be trying to get to.

GC Thieves are incredibly easy if you can twitch react.

As a Guardian, the moment I hear the hiss of the daggers(You know, the “shing” sound, and chunk of health missing), I pop protection. I stun break if necessary. I hit them twice, use Ring of Warding, switch to GS and down them before RoW expires. If they don’t teleport away, I’ll have them hooked with my Binding Blades if they do survive. If they use Shadowstep, then good game, they don’t try again, and my RoW will be off CD before their SS is.

On my thief, the moment I hear the hiss, I’ll use Death Blossom twice. They just blew their entire burst into air, as well as have 6 stacks of bleed for 20secs. If I am stunned, then I use Blinding Powder and their Heartseeker can’t touch me.

On my Ele, Shocking Aura, which also grants Protection. I can often times auto-attack them to death afterwards because they are still spamming Heartseeker =/

I personally feel like Thieves hit just a little too hard, but not absurdly much. Even while I played a heavily defensive Guardian, 3300 armor and 21k health, I still had to twitch away from thieves. Playing the most defensive profession to the defensive extreme should allow for some survivability against anything. I’ve recently become a much more offensive Guardian, and I find thieves much easier to handle, since I can drop most within the duration of RoW.

I find the easiest way of handling thieves is to know the thief. Make one yourself and learn the tells. Having stuns, immobilization, denials, chills, cripples, pulls, and knock backs go a long way in killing a thief. Prevent that Shadow Refuge and most thieves go panic mode.

I see plenty of everything but Necromancers and Engineers.

6 out of 8. Not perfect, but decent.

Give up for a week, and that should be enough to switch places with us. You can have ET and FC. Things seem to be getting a bit bitter in T8 anyways.

Nike.2631:

Oh, I think the majority of the audience is too afraid of the mystic forge to do anything other than stare at the Trading Post and dream of buying one without taking the risk personally.

I know quite a few like this, including myself. I look at my meager 320g, and at the price tag on Dusk, and I wonder if I would be lucky enough to get one from the MF if I used it all. I’ve nearly convinced myself to try on several occasions, but stop when the “What ifs” start appearing. What if I spend all my gold, and come out empty handed?

A lot of arguments here are falling flat because they are supporting their points with no accessibility. This is completely wrong. Everyone can participate in the guild missions, whether you are in the guild that kicked it off or not. You still get rewards and everything, you just don’t get to be in the “Spotlight”.

I can see it now. A 5 man guild, err party, kicks off a Mission. They begin to do it and 20 Randoms flood in and complete nearly the entire event for the guild. What a lot of QQing that would bring.

As I have said, if gaining 10k influence is “extremely difficult”, as some has described it, then you are barely larger than a party, much less a full fledged guild. These are “Guild” Missions. My guild, less than 15 actives, has generated nearly 5k influence in the last 48hrs. My Guild isn’t a “small guild”, it is an “Incredibly Tiny” Guild. Often times, we have to pug the last spot in our party.

If a Guild wants to do Guild content, it should first be large enough to actually gather a Presence. If a guild can all fit into the same party, then they already have their Guild Missions. It’s called Dungeons.

We have to define “small” here people. A Small guild is 20 active players in my opinion. In this case, maxing every Tech wouldn’t be hard at all.

A guild that rarely sees more than 6 or 7 players online at once is hardly a Guild. It’s more of a party.

Can two of the same mission be going on at the same time?

If not, then I can see why this is the case. We can’t have every single guild trying to activate the same mission, so having prerequisites is important, especially when there will only be a handful of missions to complete.

This shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone who put a little thought into it. I never for a second considered it being a low level guild upgrade.

And don’t forget that just because you can’t afford to “Start” the mission doesn’t mean you can’t still participate.

My guild has never had more than 15 active players, and we are fully upgraded, with pretty much every item stockpiled. Apparently to most of the posters in this thread, 15 is a large hardcore guild.

It’s probably been said, but if you kill every enemy, then there will be no more fighting. Peace.

Could always come to SF, and help push us out of T8 ;D

As for SF, outside of a few groups, we lack any sort of coordination. Having a large portion of the server speaking spanish doesn’t exactly help either, and will be another hurdle to jump. Whether it’s due to the language barrier or not, half of the players I whisper in game do not respond at all.

Once the zerg starts rolling, nothing can stop it. Then when it wipes, 40% of it will disappear. When the other 60% sees this, most of them will disappear as well, leaving only handful to defend all the objectives that we had just claimed.

I am fully against any form of stat boost included in the Outmanned Buff. If you don’t have enough players to defend a point, then you should by no means be able to defend the point. You keep what you can defend, and not what you can’t.

Lets not casualize the game anymore than it is.

Explore the zones without pressing M. Problem solved.

^
Were they level 80 greens?

If you put in anything less than lv80, and get a blue that is a higher level, then you have gotten something of greater value.

As for Legendaries, I imagine you cannot forge them, but perhaps you would get a different legendary.

I’ve always ran Signet, until just recently, when I tried Shelter with a new build. I build mostly for WvW now, and I’m finding Shelter to be far more useful than the other heals.

The 2sec block saves me all the time, and for serious “Oh hell” moments, I can string it with Renewed Focus for a full heal and 5 seconds on invulnerability.

Even a broken watch is correct twice a day.

I see nothing wrong with the way Anet handled it. Then again, I had no problem with the word “perceived” either. The code said there was no problem, a small number of players said there was. I’m assuming most here have never taken a car that feels off to a mechanic, and the mechanic say with absolute assurance that the car is fine, only to find on the fourth or fifth visit something wrong. Not a bad mechanic, just not perfect.

What do the players here want to see? Arena-net say you were right, and we were wrong. I remember demanding that a lot when I was six.

And just to note, the Conspiracy people are not necessarily right in this situation. The fix on the 26th may only fix the loot from Champions and Veterans, and do nothing for the average mob. In this case, Nothing has changed. Loot will still suck.

So before everyone starts giving high fives and demanding compensation, lets wait for the 26th and see what actually happens, and if you are correct, proceed with the parade.

Those videos were amazing. I’m far from T1, and T8 doesn’t have any guilds that could even come close to this coordination.

You have my applause.

I miss Bunzy, but he left me qq All alone in T8…

Still haven’t found a decent enough replacement to kill zergs with.

Poizie.5187:

Gisei.5749:

Glass Cannon Thief and Bunker Ele.
(fighting zergs)

Zergs are mindless. Just have the Ele dance around for a bit and keep the Zerg running in circles. When the thief sees an opportunity, the Ele needs to dive head first into the zerg, maximum distraction, while the thief goes for the target, burst it down, and spike it. Rinse and Repeat.

I’ve done the above before, and as long as both players can do their part, it works nearly without exception. I was the D/D Ele, and toying with 10-20 people isn’t a problem. When you dive into them, they all go kitten mode thinking they are about to +1 their kill count.

Thief/Thief works well too, but if you run into the wrong player, then you could both get dropped pretty quick.

must be fighting really bad ppl…everytime im on my ele im constantly getting immobilized…even running cleansing fire and ether renewal doesnt seem to be enough sometimes

Cleansing Fire, Lightning Flash, and Mist Form.

If you get caught four times within the cooldown of these skills, then you’re not doing it right. If no cooldowns are used, a decent D/D Ele “should” be able to escape from any situation regardless.

And of course, there are some players that will catch you with your pants down. But if this is happening everytime…

Glass Cannon Thief and Bunker Ele.
(fighting zergs)

Zergs are mindless. Just have the Ele dance around for a bit and keep the Zerg running in circles. When the thief sees an opportunity, the Ele needs to dive head first into the zerg, maximum distraction, while the thief goes for the target, burst it down, and spike it. Rinse and Repeat.

I’ve done the above before, and as long as both players can do their part, it works nearly without exception. I was the D/D Ele, and toying with 10-20 people isn’t a problem. When you dive into them, they all go kitten mode thinking they are about to +1 their kill count.

Thief/Thief works well too, but if you run into the wrong player, then you could both get dropped pretty quick.

As far as I see it, those with skill should handle the skillful parts. Every one else just needs to smack the gate and scream a lot.

Remove them from WvW.

As for adding a Global Cooldown, I vote no. The last thing I want to do is have my inventory open half the time using these items on cooldown. It’s tedious and annoying. There is also no UI functionality that adds ease of use to items in the inventory.

As for food buffs, I don’t see anything wrong with them. If you can’t afford the lv80 kind, get the lv65 kind. The difference is negligible, and normally less than 25% the cost. I’m actually building a lot of my chars with food buffs in mind now, as they can be used to cover weaknesses in builds.

Do it for the passion flowers man. Listen to Jamaican music as you search for them.

If only the post was constructive, then perhaps it may, just might, have been received a bit better.

Personally, I’m sad to see him go. Even though I don’t know him outside this thread, I felt a deep personal connection to him after reading his post. I don’t think he realizes how many people he is hurting by leaving.

I’m only Divinity Runes short of completing this build. I think it is wonderful. Thanks for sharing. Actually seeing health bars go down is something I’m not use to.

And after getting hit by you a few times prior to the maintenance, I’m tempted to try an even more offensive build.

What about Omnomberry pie? Wouldn’t the raw healing from that be overwhelming comapared to other foods?

SniffyCube.6107:

“weak” server would imply you’re somehow better than either fc or et which is a far cry from the truth, but numbers are what wins games so if you call mindlessly charging at objectives in a larger group then yes, you are stronger than us.

Score suggests otherwise. In a game of points, the player with the most points is the better player. Whether it’s due to tactical prowess, average skill, or just raw numbers. SF, as a whole, is stronger at WvW than ET or FC, regardless of how competent your small forces are. And don’t assume everyone on SF lacks skill, as your tone "implies’. We have just as many great players as you do. We’re just lost in the comfort of a zerg.

As pointless anecdotal evidence, just last week, a group of 7 SF, myself included, successfully defended Overlook from 25 ET for nearly an hour, before we had 5 or 6 more SF join, resulting in stomping them out. Unfortunately due to ET never being around for most of the day, we rarely get such opportunities.

SniffyCube.6107:

Also, you should read up on how the ratings and elo work my friend. I feel you are grossly misinformed.

I actually understand how the ratings work quite well. Maybe you should read up. (This game is fun… and stupid… and unwarranted) In the most simplistic terms, good servers go up, bad servers go down. As I recently said, score is the ultimate factor of “How good” a server is. Of course, due to the low volatility of the current match ups, a population shift can have a long term effect on the balance of matches. Hod is currently a stronger server than SF. Whether or not that will change though, will be decided in about 3 weeks time.

In the end though, I wouldn’t get my hopes up that HoD will be a much better match. I may be wrong, and I hope I am, but my posts are evidence that I don’t believe it will be.

Ungood.3054:

Not to be rude, but I can’t want for a real opponent that will be able to actually challenge us without just mindlessly steamrolling us.

Then you have a long wait ahead of you. ET is after all, the weakest server WvW wise. Even if SF moves up a Tier, our replacement will likely be too strong for T8.

As of Feb 1st, SF’s rating was in the 800s, and ET’s in the 600s. Henge of Denravi, just above SF, has a rating of 1k+. If we somehow replace them in T7, they will likely steam roll ET and FC just as SF does.

I believe it would be better to hope for improvements in ET, rather than hoping a weak server drops to T8.

Reset was good today. I actually played WvW for 9hrs straight… on a Friday night. Heh.

FC was hitting awfully hard and using some nice coordination. I was surprised to see it. I hope SF can become more like that.

As for ET, your Trebs in Overlook are annoying as hell, but at least I was able to rack up kills next to your wall from those defending the trebs.

I think I topped 300 kills since reset.

And as Mira posted, Thank You for the party [PK]. It was a great way to finish off the night.