Guild Wars 2

Perhaps just fix the current system, instead of expanding it.

I’ve been banned from /Map for half a day for saying LFG ACx once.

Velimirius.7018:

Oh there is, they could add big lakes with tower in the middle conquered by building siege ships or something.

Maybe enlarge walls and add ladders to climb them, ofc they would need to make the walls wider so that you can do battle for walls, cuz walls atm are lame.

Add some rewards for being 1st, like 7 day bonus in something for winning last week and maybe applying same bonus to PvE world, so ppl get even more motivated to fight for their server.

At its boring. Waste of money and time.

Suggestions that take an enormous of work to implement, as well as careful and long balancing? Yet everyone expects them so soon after launch woes are mostly cleared.

There is still a massive amount of class balancing to do. PvE has to be kept up, squashing new bugs and all. They have special event content that must be finished and tested. They still have a lot of work to do on the current WvW, and they are probably re-working orbs as well.

Yet people continue to ask for more? The Halloween Event can be Example A. As fantastic as they did, many still weren’t satisfied.

And if the satisfaction of beating an opposing server is not enough motivation to play WvW, then WvW is not for you. Adding more rewards/boons to winning would just increase the gap in population a server experiences between Winning Matches and Losing Matches.

As for WvW becoming stale, a little internal server competition would fix that.

I fully agree. Just working on making this a constructing thread. Well, as constructive as one for an MMO can be.

Actually, I would prefer a large reworking of the current ones. I don’t like them. Eternal is squished.

Edit: And honestly, there isn’t much that can be added to WvW

What does it need?

I think it has nothing to do with the Orbs, but with the fact that rankings are balancing out, slowly. Free transfers are still annoying, causing outliers, but the huge masses of nomads seem to be settling a bit.

Honestly, I didn’t really feel too much of a difference when 1v1-ing with or against orb buffs.

I think the whole idea of Commander should go the way of the orbs.

Though I do promote the idea of larger parties, 20-50, that keep track of players’ locations.

Actually, by reading that quote in OP, it sounds like this new gear will be exclusively for this new dungeon. May be wishful thinking though.

And quit raging people. Just wait for the 15th, and speak up then if bad things come to be.

I want more variety, and perhaps the option to remove the following:

“Sticks and stones will break your bones!”

I fully support your re-rolling to a ranger as an attempt to find a better class. Meanwhile, I’ll be 1v3-ing in WvW.

Finished my Ele last week. 14.5k health. Defining it as squishy couldn’t be more incorrect.

As I learned with my Guardian, health pool isn’t such a big deal.

And to above, Staff is ranged AoE that is sub-par when alone, or in smaller groups. Dagger is best when alone or in small groups. Scepter is in between. I find that pretty well balanced to be honest. Switching attunement is what the Ele is all about, so of course Arcana is best. Ignoring that is like a Guardian ignoring supports, Thief ignoring stealth/mobility, Mesmer ignoring clones, Necro ignoring death shroud, etc.

I do agree that the Ele needs some work though.

I was actually asking for any other reasons to get badges, as those are commonly known.

The legendary is an impossibility to obtain for the average player. For those who can get it, it takes long enough that running the JPs once a day will net more than enough.

Gearing up via badges isn’t an option, as they only offer a single set of stats. With all the possible combination of stats, the vast majority of players will not need these. If gearing up was actually something one could do, my opinion would differ. The WvW exotic set is essentially a skin, and little more.

Back to the question, why are badges necessary? I see no uses for them currently.

GW1 begs to differ.

Thank You. I should probably look into other forums before asking questions.

For now, just no one jump to conclusions. Anet has never been about this kind of thing, and I doubt they will ever be. Leave the “Game will Die” speeches for the 15th, and if our fears come to pass, become one of the many that will be out-spoken about it.

@florgknight So does my ranger, if not higher. I forget. But that is at max range. As soon as that distance is covered, which takes 2secs for any decently built toon, the game is over. Not to mention, walking back and forth will dodge everyone of my auto-attack arrows without exception at max range.

My guardian and ele have never once lost to a ranger in a 1v1, or even come close to losing. I’ve lost to every class at least once before, but never a ranger. They die easily, and their damage is mediocre.

He is level 65, and I have no idea how well up-kept his gear is, so hitting low numbers and being squishy is entirely possible. At lv65, he should have just purchased the lv65 masterwork set.

WvW scales your stats. If you have the best stats you can at lv50, for a lv50, then you’ll have decent stats when scaled. But if you have crappy stats at lv50, for a lv50, then you’ll have proportionally crappy stats at lv80 after scaling. Tested on my ranger. Each level I gained actually lowered my stats in WvW, until I refreshed my gear for my level.

I refresh my gear at 15 level intervals starting at lv20. My rangers attack and armor, after scaling, was roughly 2800 and 2300, respectively, at lv50. At lv64, they were roughly 2200 and 1900.

I’d also like to point out that 5 out of 7 of the hits shown, were critical.

Well, I have a mission today. I"m going to build an AC(to start with) and sit beside it for 30mins. Time that should be devoted to school has now been re-allocated to sitting down.

Ranger is a rather sub-par class in my opinion.

I assume both of you were rather squishy. High dps builds melt squishies. I’ve fought many a glass cannon thieves on my ele and guardian, both high toughness. I’ve had no problem ever finishing one off once down.

Has this been proven? For every type of siege? I’ve had people swear to me that there is no despawn timer, and the rumor is caused by quaggan lightning and sneaky players. Others swear there is.

I mean, has someone sat beside a piece of siege and watched it for 30mins?

Why is getting badges even necessary? I’m not seeing why this is whine-worthy.

Not all that impressive. Typical glass cannon thief. I’ve beat ’em, and lost to ’em,. Depends on how prepared I was for that incoming damage.

I’d also like to say, having a lv80 exotic ranger myself, that fighting a thief as a ranger is an impossible and hopeless cause. Actually, fighting anything is a pain.

Could I get a link? I haven’t heard of this yet.

I’d also like to point out that there is hardly a gear divide. Upon hitting lv80, the masterwork gear, 30s for a whole set, will do. Anyone can get these. Rare, less than 3g for a set, is mostly identical to Exotics except for a small insignificant difference in stats.

Now if you are referring to the gear divide between a lv10 and a lv80, that’s a different story. Still not a gear divide though.

Nice video, but I hardly consider having 10ppl and siege and fully upgraded NPCs versus waves of 20-25 invaders terrible odds. Not great odds, but partly manageable. A wave of 50 would have been an impossibility though. Unless you had your “oh crap” skills on, you would have been dropped when they got to that first ballista.

All that lost siege could have instead been placed on a wall.

When it comes to camps, the only upgrade that really matters is the double supply runs, and that only costs 10s. I defend a camp if it is defend-able and I abandon it if it isn’t. I can re-cap it in 5mins if necessary.

I do understand that there is a time when a camp needs to be defended. Most often the case when a tower or keep has been taken, and is in desperate need of supplies. Double supplies, a maintained camp, and Doly escorts is often times the deciding factor on whether that objective will fall or not.

Yeah, spying isn’t all that big of a problem. Transfers becoming payed will finish it off mostly. Also, where are all these great suggestions?

Anyone who says that zergs are full of unintelligent and unskilled players are just taking an opportunity to jab at people who pawned them. I’d say that they are actually the unintelligent and unskilled ones. I run with both small groups and zergs, which ever I feel is a better use of my time. The only difference between the two is that one is bigger.

Zergs exist because more people increases the odds of taking the objective. More people lowers the odds of dying. Not many other reasons than those.

Personally, I play for each battle, with the outcome of the war meaning almost nothing to me. I’m satisfied.

I do find it odd to ask for something in PvP though. Winning anything PvP has always been and will likely always be about being better than the others. It’s bragging rights.

I still find sieges to feel awkward at the best of times though, and hopefully, my guild can start participating on a larger scale soon. So, I have plenty to look forward to WvW wise.

Why do people complain about this? It is entirely intentional, by game design, to camp these jumping puzzles. Not only do they give loot that strengthens the enemy server, but one of them has traps built into them to screw up others. They are meant to involve a lot of PvP in them.

You went into WvW, which means you have knowingly entered a PvP area. Then why would you complain when you have to engage in PvP?

I really hope they don’t make Asura gear normal sized. I would re-roll every one of my Asuras if I had to lug around giants weapons. As much as I love Asura(5 Asuras to date, 3 are 80 and Exotic), giant weapons would be such a huge turn off.

AC, HotW, and SE all have the same stats.

No, it is not worth the badges.

Fix current problems before adding anything.

And I’d rather not have anything PvE. The few mobs that keep tagging me everywhere I go are annoying enough.

Also, a large vent like this would of course go to the winning server, making it harder to kill them.

Stop whining.

Were you and your friend both lv80 with full exotics? If so, then, as much as I hate it when people say this, learn to play. If not, then nothing to see here. Running to the forums to scream nerf because you got spanked in a single encounter is simply embarrassing. Learn from the encounter, and adapt.

I have both a bunker Guardian and a Healing Ele, and I can swear that we’re not invincible. Surviving is what I like to do, so that’s how I build myself, even if it takes a few ages to kill someone. I have had my face beaten in 1v1 on several occasions, and there has been several occasions where I’ve won a 1v4.

Heck, last night, my friend and I went against 6 players just for a good lol. We honestly expected to die, but we killed them all.

1. I am getting fairly annoyed by them, though they do give me a 25 stack in bloodlust.

2. Not necessary. I personally like to farm a bit while doing things.

3. I don’t agree with a statistical advantage. Perhaps just greater rewards on claiming towers and keeps.

4. No

5. Ridiculous

Ryuujin.8236:

Don’t underestimate those sharks – they’re trained killers AND lifesavers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EUIIkwP2eU

I’m gonna die near a shark now just to see if it saves me >.>

How will not rewarding points make it more fun? Just makes an empty borderlands, more empty.

The dominating server will simply move to another zone, eliminating the out-manned buff, and thus, still gain points.

Yes, punish the winning team for winning…(I’m on the losing team btw)

Then they will quit and the out-manned buff will go away. It’ll make balance. Genius.

Patience. Just because one isn’t getting served first, doesn’t mean one is forgotten.

WvW will receive fewer updates than other parts of the game. That’s obvious, and it is more than likely that that will never change. If the core mechanics are getting boring though, I doubt a few updates will change anything.

How about the whole idea of Commander is simply removed from the game? Refunds to those who purchased of course. Re-implement squads in some other fashion.

Natural leaders will rise up without the help of an empty icon.

Then again, watching some commanders do their thing is amusing.

It’s still there. I get it all the time in SM. Let’s hope Nov. 15th has the solution, or at least makes it better.

Though I do imagine that Culling is the unintentional result of some kind of code meant to make large groups more manageable to crappy computers. Fixing culling, I assume, will result in large groups having a larger impact on performance than they currently do. Then again, perhaps Anet has found a good solution.

It is possible to insta-kill with enough ACs, but that would require coordination and would only cover a small area each shot. Everyone you’re not hitting will be chucking AoEs onto the wall.

Game is dying? News to me.

Populations always decrease after a game launches. Perfectly normal, and best of all, expected.

Osskil.1029:

Gisei.5749:

I’ve lost track. Mind summarizing all your valid points as to why perma-stealth is a fair and legit class mechanic?

I haven’t stated that perma-stealth is a great mechanic at all. And this thread has seemed to steer away from the perma-stealth discussion altogether and become a ‘complain about stealth’ as a whole thread.

Stealth is a legit class mechanic, that is all there is to it. I personally feel as though there should be a limit to what amount of time you can spend in stealth before getting a debuff that prevents it for an amount of time – lets say 30 seconds tops stealth – I think that would be fair.

Stealth gives thieves the element of surprise, and people don’t like that. But, that is how the class was built, and how ANet intended for it to be played.

You actually got me to re-read the entire thread. Nowhere in this thread does the topic change from perma-stealth/ThiefOP to complaining about the general stealth mechanic, except when you rise to defend it against no one. If you believe it does, point out the post that does please.

No one here is complaining about stealth. We’re complaining about perma-stealth. Due to culling, even though the thief is technically visible for a short time to himself, the other players do not get that opportunity of visibility.

And one guy wants other classes to have escape skills too.

I’ve lost track. Mind summarizing all your valid points as to why perma-stealth is a fair and legit class mechanic?

Osskil.1029:

Reyka.8965:

Osskil.1029:

Initiative is one of your arguments? So, because we as a class have a LIMITED RESOURCE that we have to work within, when ALL OTHER CLASSES can spam their moves anytime they are off cooldown, that is a good feature for us? Come on.

Something wrong here…

How so? That’s how all the classes work. It isn’t like initiate magically replenishes itself – it takes time to come back. We can’t help the thieves that spam heartseeker over and over – they make us look bad sure.

Not all of us are backstab/glass canon builds either. I run a toughness/condition build and I don’t abuse stealth. Stop with sweeping generalizations everybody!

I guess I’ll explain.

Initiative and Cooldowns are basically the same thing, just a different skin. Don’t act like one is vastly inferior to the other.

And to cover the bold part, there is no spamming skills while they are off cooldown. Cooldowns are initiative. If our skills are off cooldown, we can use a bunch at once. If a thief has full initiative, he can use a bunch at once. Same thing.

Osskil.1029:

Halo.8976:

Gisei.5749:

Also, my Ele will accept perma-mist form, my Guardian will accept perma-aegis, and my ranger will continue to suck in the meantime to keep things balanced.

^
I’d like to have perma-Death Shroud for my necro and limitless number of illusions for my mesmer.

Again, this is when you don’t understand the mechanics. If we hit you, it breaks stealth. Mist form can’t attack anyone. Perma-aegis would be bad because you can then hit and never be hurt. Death shroud permanence would be unfair because of the massive health pool and additional damage. More illusions for the mesmer would be unfair because there would be no way to counter it. You guys are really reaching here.

Understand it, once again. THIEVES CAN’T DO DAMAGE WHILE PERMANENTLY STEALTHED, OR IT BREAKS THEIR STEALTH.

Sarcasm. It’s an art. Apparently, a tough one at that.

I can kill the majority of thieves I fight, but they are by far the most difficult profession for me to overcome. We all know they are OP at the moment, whether it is due to culling or profession mechanics, doesn’t matter. If the fix rumored above does fix this problem, then great, if not, back to the forums.

Also, my Ele will accept perma-mist form, my Guardian will accept perma-aegis, and my ranger will continue to suck in the meantime to keep things balanced.

Where were all these orb defenders when the threads asking for the removal of the orbs were everywhere? Sigh… Regardless, removing the orbs was the best course of action. Until they are reworked, let ‘em stay gone. Also, I’ve met very few people who actually cared about the orb.

WvW will get its updates in due time, but honestly, there is only so much that can be added to it. New siege will only lead to old ones becoming useless or the new ones never being used. Adding new keeps or structures isn’t exactly possible, not without reworking the entire zone for balance.

As for stagnation, that will take a while to happen. It’s PvP. Fighting other players takes a lot longer to get old than fighting NPCs, so of course PvE will get more attention. Even if March rolls around and not a single WvW update has been issued, it would still be a thriving place. With servers still shifting, and few truly being able to experience even wars, WvW is nowhere near stagnant.

kitten thread =O

1800 ToT bags farmed from there.

This is simply one of those “Tough luck” situations. Better luck next time.

I, for one, am glad that the tormenting dungeon has come to an end. I ran it a few times just for the Halloween experience, but I won’t miss it.

If this game is truly important to you, then make time for it. If it isn’t, then why are you here?

By the same logic some people here are using, the event should never end. Not everyone has gotten to try everything, and it isn’t fair they they haven’t. The obvious solution is to never end the event. Endless Halloween is obviously good game design.
/sarcasm

Kitten happens.

What is there to understand? People want to win, and that’s it. It’s the reason people make cookie cutter builds. Its’ the reason people flock to the latest balance issues.(thieves >_>) It’s the reason people don’t WvW when they are losing. It’s the reason people whine when they are challenged. It’s the reason people transfer.

To most people, the destination is more important than the journey.

I just read a post somewhere around here that said losing isn’t fun. I honestly disagree. Losing means there is room for improvement. There’s a chance to progress, to become better. There’s a goal to work towards. I’ve played games before that I Never lose, and I get bored of them. My server has dominated WvW with 600+ all week, and has been crushed -20 all week. The later is much more tolerable.

To add to the badge comment, I’ve made about 300 badges in a month, and I’m not a huge WvW-er. I mostly run dungeons.

Siege is plenty common at the moment. I honestly don’t see much reason for this.

And laying siege to something is suppose to be costly, not profitable. Whichever side runs out of resources first, loses. Whether it is siege, supply, money, or bodies.

My guild leader was aspiring to get a “Commander” title a few weeks ago. But we soon realized how weightless it has become.

I lost all faith in Commanders I don’t know when…

One tried to build Siege in spawn and asked why it wouldn’t let him put it down. Then proceeded to leap off the cliff and place two trebuchets within catapult range of a gate and within enemy arrow cart range.

…and…

another Commander later that night was absolute sure that ninja-capping the supply camps would “weaken” the enemy server. The enemy server at the time owned the entire zone, and had every structure(besides camps) fully upgraded, as well as stocked.

The best part was that each of the Commanders had rather large followings that believed he was the best thing since internet pron. They begged everyone to follow him(after multiple failures I might add), and if we did, it would turn the tide of the war. Anyone who didn’t were worthless idiots, and the cause of our server’s horrible score. Questioning him or giving suggestions was the highest form of mutiny.

I would have liked the Title to not only cost gold, but require a certain;

- amount of time in WvW
- number of kills
- number of supplies used
- number of objectives captured, of each type
- number of players “supporting” said player, each of which have met the same conditions as above, but to a lesser degree.

First four would allow the Commander to at least have some knowledge as to how the basics work. The last one I’m unsure of, but I assume you know what I’m getting at.