Guild Wars 2

what i noticed too, we dont get access to one of the new buffs/conditions slow/taunt/resistance would be nice to see such things on gyros

I always thought it will stack, because max endureg you can have is 100% and Vigor gives you 50% and you have 50% passive. If it do not stack it is really a bad design

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as i am thinking about it maybe it is so that vigor gives 50% endureg of the already applied 50% passive so you have 75% increase

lorddarkflare.9186:

Rangers need the attention. They are having a mini-revolution at the moment.

We will not get much from devs until after the BWE.

And after BWE they will be busy with HoT release, so maybe first balance comes with the first PvP Season

It is by far not a safe stomb it can get feared, blinded and if the player go to stealth what will the gyro do?

“The blast gyro in particular is interesting, because you’ll be able to safe stomp with it while having it AoE knockback opponents 450 range. For perspective, Big Ol’ Bomb is only 400, and with a huge delay.”

So if you do this your stomp target will get knocked back too or not?

BrazenNL.9857:

Why is it always SFR people starting these threads?

selfowned

If i must guess you are a player from FSP or Deso

@Topic

Yes it is a Problem and some Server already doing this, on our server there are already Map messages that if you transfer you will get gold from them.

Irenio CalmonHuang.2048:

I wanted to quickly mention – we’re investigating the med kit 1 issue right now!

Nice thanks for inform us, but dont forget the other bugs in this thread they need investigations too

After all Irenio came and told us he has much work with the rangers .

Chorazin.4107:

Lol who uses medkit? Might be useful in a roleplaying group.

i like this…..rp rofl

you dont need it anymore when stealth gyro is your elite

Place all turrets → Field → boom

Medkit was i overpowered, at least for some hours, lets praise the God of Kits!

Now back to Medi Kit uselessness

If so it is only a rally bot

Frontline(disabler) Scrapper

Weapon = Hammer
1 Utility Slot = Bulwark Gyro (Toolbelt reflect) or Blast Gyro (for AOE Superspeed)

Skills/Armor:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQBUSRF78CubBWvQZzgE/10z+42LQAA-TFyEABCqE0JleLpM4Q1fsZ/BAOgAMcgAWTDBA-w

Traits:

http://dulfy.net/gw2traits#build=AgEEnAWYBlw~

Lots of swiftness for passive healing
Fury up cause of Rune, Hidden Flask, reactive lense
Turret for good heal, condition cleanse and waterfield
Slick Shoes for stability eater and Super Speed (healing) and Stunbreak
Elixirgun for stunbreak, regeneration and Conditions -> Boons and mini Slick Shoes on Speedy kit proc
Crate for more Stun and heal

With Adrenalin Implant you have Endurance reg for more Stability from perfect weight. Maybe switch that with Kinetic charge for double superspeed or double med pack.

Ricky Rouse.1583:

Haralin.1473:

The gyros need a stunbreak at least one of them if you want to run a gyro only build you have no stunbreaker, or am i missing something?

I don’t think they ever intended for you to run more than 1-2 gyros.

I mean, take another look at our trait line. Notice something? Yeah, we have one trait that actually affects Gyros. And it’s GM. And it’s when they die.

Yes i know, but every utility line has a stun breaker:

Turrets -> Thumper Rumble
Elixir -> Elixir S and Elixir U
Tools -> Goggles and Super Speed
Kits -> Elixirgun Toolbelt
Gyros -> nothing

And at weekend i want to test a heavy gyro build as disabler/frontliner so more gyros = more dazes and lightnigfields

Rocknull.2986:

Just forget about gyros in gvg except for maybe function rez/stomp. Hamer coupled with old kits and skills will be meta tho. He’ll I’m working on a hammer less scrapper that looks very promising . No worries. There is a kitten ton of group synergy available with new elite spec

Maybe Gyros can work as a stability eater, everytime a gyro dies it creates a lightningfield which daze the enemies and superspeed up allies every pulse (3 Pulses).

At Beta i will try such a build, you will have a lot of lightning fields to split the enemy zerg.

The gyros need a stunbreak at least one of them if you want to run a gyro only build you have no stunbreaker, or am i missing something?

Xyonon.3987:

Haralin.1473:

maybe we will get a new elite spec for support in the future, maybe a with dual torch to burn out wounds

I’m calling today dual shield’s gonna happen …

yeah captain tyria

Chaba.5410:

Irenio CalmonHuang.2048:

• Bulwark Gyro has a decent pool of health and low defense. If you and several allies are taking heavy AoE then it is going to die quickly; that is the situation where it should die quickly.

And that’s the same situation where the players should die quickly too. Melee playstyle is characterized, defined by players and several allies taking heavy AoE. Only the players don’t die in that situation if they’re playing smartly and coordinating well as a team, if they’re properly dodging and using other skills that help mitigate or avoid the damage. The AI dies though.

So what if AI pets in the game get a 2 Sec Evade buff , when the “master” evades, i think that would not be too overpowered.

They dont give numbers to us, so it would not be much increase, 5-10% i think.

maybe we will get a new elite spec for support in the future, maybe a with dual torch to burn out wounds

Why bothering about healing or support, Druid is the new support class, the 20% of our heal will not take much effect

hope some bugfixes come tomorrow

Now i know why the scappres looks so unfinished, he has put all his work in the ranger. they even didnt show our new class ability (function gyro). So it was true the last elite was the best, druid looks perfect. Maybe some day we also get a dev who loves engi

“is because ranged damage and vulnerability is basically all it has to offer. It has no mobility, no sustain, no cleanse, only one field and not a strong one”

Just a side note grenades do not have the field anymore since the rework.

It is not redundant it is an additionally heal, and for Engis who do not want to choose the scrapper line it is not redundant.

Asura for sure !

Stealth needed a hard counter and i hope more classes get revealed skills. Sorry for the hate, but the most cowards playing thief or mesmer (my opinion).

Hammer smashed Face

No i dont feel sorry for thiefs or mesmer it is just one skill and now the get a real counter to stealth. I hope other classes get such tools too.

The most people who are still roaming are Thiefs or Mesmers as a non stealth charakter i barely see other roamers like Warriors, Guardians or Necros.

just another mesmer nothing special to see here

We need more skills like the new scrapper will have 6 seconds anti stealth aoe.

And WvW is no 1vs1 or 2vs2 playground and it will never be fair.

Irenio Calmon Huang

A dev response ! First of all thanks for give us feedback!

My main concern is, that we will not have enough time to test and fix the engi in time, cause only one BWE is not enough.

Rhomulos.2089:

This is also assuming they don’t add stomps to permanent group pve content, which they very well could.

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They already have stomps in PvE but very rarely on Events, stomps in PvE would be good for A-Net cause they can sell more stomp finisher, i would like it

It would be great, if devs would talk with us, maybe some of us (including me) would better understand some decisions they made, and maybe some devs would use some usefull proposals from the community.

Engi Form gets very very very rarely an answer from any dev.

But i hope they will change it so it does stack but cap it at 10 seconds or so.

It gives 4 second stealth, so use it destroy it and you have 4 second stealth and none can see where you are.

We engis must be inventive with our tools

Seyiwaji.4082:

Are you serious?
12 sec whirl; Combo Interval: ½s, do you understand the Potential on Condi Poison and fire field?
not even talking about light.
Cooldown 30 sec, which mean 18 sec if not destroyed, are you really serious?

may be you should review something there.

i understand that you are somehow focusing raid, but please: there are other game mode.

Cooldown starts after the gyro is destroyed i think, not on using the skill, like turrets.

And you say the magical words “if not destroyed”, with the low healthpool of 8-9k i think it will die as fast as our turrets, no need to worry about.

EdwinLi.1284:

Haralin.1473:

They already have on death effect but at the moment all the same AOE (240 Range) 1 Second daze.

So it must be easy for anet to add better effects

That AoE daze only works if player take the trait.

Without the trait Gyros are just little things to be killed and the Final Salvo is more for PvP rather than PvE.

Here

http://dulfy.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/gw2-scrapper-gyro-utilities2.jpg
http://dulfy.net/2015/09/18/gw2-scapper-engineer-elite-specialization-livestream-notes/

it looks like it is base line and the trait gives you superspeed and a lighting field.

Ok it says on selfdestruct, maybe this doesnt count for death.

Kodama.6453:

Haralin.1473:

Morfedel.4165:

Haralin.1473:

What i dont understand is, the mesmer gets his new F skill without skilling it with a trait, the thief get 3 doges without the need to skill it with a trait, the necro gets the new f skill also for free. We must skill it and lose one Trait for it and in my opinion a very good one 25% Stunduration -25% stunduration on me.

What are you talking about? What does “skilling it” supposed to mean?

We need to select a trait to get the gyro function, mesmer and other classes dont need this to get there new elite class ability, Mesmer gets a new Fx Skill, Thief get more dodges and Necro a new Fx skill without wasting a traitslot for it.

The function should be in the first minor trait.

You got the concept wrong. The function gyro IS in the first minor trait. There is just a adept trait which provides your function gyro and yourself stability while you are stomping/rezzing.

Thanks for clearing it up for me (i read it wrong at dulfy), than please forget everything i said

They already have on death effect but at the moment all the same AOE (240 Range) 1 Second daze.

So it must be easy for anet to add better effects

Morfedel.4165:

Haralin.1473:

What i dont understand is, the mesmer gets his new F skill without skilling it with a trait, the thief get 3 doges without the need to skill it with a trait, the necro gets the new f skill also for free. We must skill it and lose one Trait for it and in my opinion a very good one 25% Stunduration -25% stunduration on me.

What are you talking about? What does “skilling it” supposed to mean?

We need to select a trait to get the gyro function, mesmer and other classes dont need this to get there new elite class ability, Mesmer gets a new Fx Skill, Thief get more dodges and Necro a new Fx skill without wasting a traitslot for it.

The function should be in the first minor trait.

Kodama.6453:

Haralin.1473:

This is to overpowered remember Speedy kits will give you perma Swiftness this would be a perma heal for allies, i think this would be to strong.

Perma heal for allies too strong? Did you ever stay next to an elementalist in water attunement? ^^

Yes but you have perma Swiftness base heal 100 or so, then you can get 470 Heal for superspeed on top and this i think is to strong, count regeneration in and you have a heal with superspeed of about 600-800 with healing gear maybe more. Seems too strong and with speedy kit we also get superspeed with toolkit.

This is to overpowered remember Speedy kits will give you perma Swiftness this would be a perma heal for allies, i think this would be to strong.

What i dont understand is, the mesmer gets his new F skill without skilling it with a trait, the thief get 3 doges without the need to skill it with a trait, the necro gets the new f skill also for free. We must skill it and lose one Trait for it and in my opinion a very good one 25% Stunduration -25% stunduration on me.

Killyox.3950:

Btw, a bit of a side note, but didn’t they mention that finishers from leaps on Rocket Charge will stack? Are we looking at 15 seconds worth of Chaos Armor with full RC in ethereal field?:P

Or Fireaura for even more Might Stacking hrhr

Manuhell.2759:

And that essentially means that elite specializations on the engineer are meaningless by design, since the main weapon can’t be good (again, by design) and the utilities can’t compete with kits either way.

They could as well just give us a trait line and some mechanic and be done with it.

I think the hammer is a great weapon for WvW frontlineing, if the engi is able to survive there if not it can also be a good thing in sPvP. For PvE maybe for raids and bossfights for controlled cc.

The Hammerskills are fine only gyros give me a strange feeling.

No let the damage as it is and nerf #1 Cleave of all weapons so it is not just #1 spam in XX vs XX

The main thing is, we have to look at it in the next BWE. I dont believe they have adjust something but it can be.

And while the BWE is going we need to test and report quickly cause it is the only BWE we have . So put your energy in testing and reporting .

For me the best thing would be to make the gyros invincible besides suicide and stomp gyro.